| Author | Message | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 368 Registered: 12-2007 |
White seas? I *knew* that didn't make sense! | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 81 Registered: 5-2008 |
Are the white seas from: art? literature? real life? your imagination? somthing else? Did you know it didn't make sense initially? Did you realise that it didn't make sense at a later point? Are there others involved in this? If so, relevant how many? 1? 2? 3? more? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 370 Registered: 12-2007 |
Are the white seas from: art? This. literature? real life? your imagination? somthing else? Did you know it didn't make sense initially? No-ish. Did you realise that it didn't make sense at a later point? Yes. Are there others involved in this? Yes. If so, relevant how many? 1? 2? 3? more? Four. | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 82 Registered: 5-2008 |
Any black and white photography involved? The others involved A? H? M?/F? (M/F relevant?) Were they friends? colleagues? strangers? other? Were the 'white seas' on a painting? photograph? other? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 435 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is "White seas" to be taken literally, as in "sea depicted in white-ish color"? or has it some metaphorical meaning here? Is a picture, painting, photograph, movie, .. showing a white sea relevant? Is "White seas" the title, or part of the title, of a relevant piece of art? The White Sea (around Murmansk and Arhangelsk) relevant? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 371 Registered: 12-2007 |
Unleashedllama: Any black and white photography involved? No. The others involved A? Yes. H? Yes. M?/F? Male. (M/F relevant? No.) Were they friends? This... colleagues? ...but mostly this. strangers? other? Were the 'white seas' on a painting? photograph? other? Other. Sundowner: Is "White seas" to be taken literally, as in "sea depicted in white-ish color"? Yes-ish. or has it some metaphorical meaning here? No. Is a picture, painting, photograph, movie, .. showing a white sea relevant? None of these. Is "White seas" the title, or part of the title, of a relevant piece of art? No. The White Sea (around Murmansk and Arhangelsk) relevant? No. | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 84 Registered: 5-2008 |
Other types of art: Sculptures? Carvings? Was it being displayed in a gallery? museum? on television? online? on a card? Were your colleagues aware that 'it didn't make sense' too? If they were, did they know it: before you? about the same time as you? after you? relevant? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 372 Registered: 12-2007 |
Other types of art: Sculptures? Carvings? No to both. Was it being displayed in a gallery? museum? on television? online? on a card? None of these, and a FA. I realize now I have misinterpreted your question above. When you asked if they were friends, colleagues etc., I thought you meant among themselves, and this is what I had in mind when I answered. They are strangers to me. Were your colleagues aware that 'it didn't make sense' too? It made sense for them. If they were, did they know it: before you? This one. about the same time as you? after you? relevant? Yes. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 118 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did you suspect it 'did not make sense' but didn't really question it at the time? Is this a discussion about art? If so: were you part of the discussion? overheard the discussion? A particular exhibit/work relevant? a collection of works? a general area of artistry? an artistic style? an artist? a group of artists? Is art which depicts in some form 'white seas' relevant? If so: is this art based on a real scene? from the artist's imagination? an artist's interpretation and/or combination of several real scenes? Would this 'white' be observable in a real scene? Any of this relevant? Does 'seas' refer to a large body of water? large bodies of water? representation(s) of either of the two previous? Are the seas white monocolour? several shades of white? contain several shades of white? shades blue and white? shades of green and white? shades of various colours typically associated with the sea (i.e. blues and greens etc.) and white? Is the whiteness of the seas intended literally? metaphorically? inferentially? Is the white intended to be seen as being under the water? in the water? on the surface of the water? as water? as another substance? relevant? Is the white intended to represent foam? (or) a foaming/ raging sea? Were the colleagues from an institution which studies art? Were you aware of the 'white seas' before you were aware of the colleagues? Was it something said among the colleagues which confirmed for you that it 'did not make sense'? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 374 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did you suspect it 'did not make sense' but didn't really question it at the time? Yes! Is this a discussion about art? Not 100% sure what you mean, can you please rephrase? If so: were you part of the discussion? overheard the discussion? A particular exhibit/work relevant? Yes. a collection of works? No. a general area of artistry? Yes, but only inasmuch as the particular work we are considering belongs to it. an artistic style? No. an artist? No. a group of artists? Yes. Is art which depicts in some form 'white seas' relevant? Yes. If so: is this art based on a real scene? from the artist's imagination? This. an artist's interpretation and/or combination of several real scenes? Would this 'white' be observable in a real scene? Yope. Any of this relevant? Not much. Does 'seas' refer to a large body of water? Yes. large bodies of water? Yes. representation(s) of either of the two previous? No. Are the seas white monocolour? No. several shades of white? contain several shades of white? Are there shades of white? shades blue and white? Yes. shades of green and white? Yes. shades of various colours typically associated with the sea (i.e. blues and greens etc.) and white? Yes, but I think this line of inquiry will not get you very far. Is the whiteness of the seas intended literally? Yes, but there is more. metaphorically? inferentially? Is the white intended to be seen as being under the water? in the water? on the surface of the water? as water? Not sure how to answer these. Maybe "as water" is the least misleading. as another substance? Yes-ish. Explore this! relevant? Yes. Is the white intended to represent foam? (or) a foaming/ raging sea? No to both. Were the colleagues from an institution which studies art? No. Were you aware of the 'white seas' before you were aware of the colleagues? No. Was it something said among the colleagues which confirmed for you that it 'did not make sense'? No. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 122 Registered: 5-2008 |
Not 100% sure what you mean, can you please rephrase? Is a discussion about the particular exhibit/work/artists relevant? If so: were you part of the discussion? (or) did you overhear the discussion? did the discussion occur among the colleagues? Are there shades of white? Technically no... (: I was just wondering about the exact colours as I felt it may help decypher the form of the art. Is the water depicted as still? flowing (as in a stream)? violent (as in harsh 'storm' waves)? crashing on a beach/rocks? Is the state of the water's depicted movement relevant? Does the form in which the white seas are depicted contain any significant volume water (i.e. more than just moisture/vapour etc.)? White seas = a substance (or substances) made to look like water? Is the depiction physically moving (i.e. flowing, behaving like water)? Able to move (i.e. can you change its shape significantly by just touching it)? Is the substance(s), in the state in which it's intended to be exhibited, liquid? solid? gas? Were the colleagues members of some common group whose work was art related? artists? gallery employees? Do the colleagues study art (but not necessarily in an institution)? Were you aware of the colleagues before you were aware of the white seas? at the same time? relevant? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 375 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is a discussion about the particular exhibit/work/artists relevant? No, there was no discussion. If so: were you part of the discussion? (or) did you overhear the discussion? did the discussion occur among the colleagues? Is the water depicted as still? flowing (as in a stream)? violent (as in harsh 'storm' waves)? crashing on a beach/rocks? Is the state of the water's depicted movement relevant? No to all. I sense a major FA lurking here. Does the form in which the white seas are depicted contain any significant volume water (i.e. more than just moisture/vapour etc.)? You mean if there is water in the work of art? No, and FA. White seas = a substance (or substances) made to look like water? No... but explore. Is the depiction physically moving (i.e. flowing, behaving like water)? Able to move (i.e. can you change its shape significantly by just touching it)? No, you're on the wrong track. Is the substance(s), in the state in which it's intended to be exhibited, liquid? solid? gas? None of these. Were the colleagues members of some common group whose work was art related? Yes. artists? Yes. gallery employees? No. Do the colleagues study art (but not necessarily in an institution)? No. Were you aware of the colleagues before you were aware of the white seas? Yes. at the same time? No. relevant? No. | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 88 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did it 'not make sense' due to any of the following?: There were no seas? They weren't white? They were part of an impressionist (or similar) piece of art, meaning the context of the white seas didn't make sense? They weren't at sea level? Was it something else about the way that they were depicted that made them not make sense? Did the artists intend to cause some level of confusion upon seeing the piece of art? Were they happy with the result? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 376 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did it 'not make sense' due to any of the following?: There were no seas? This one. They weren't white? They were part of an impressionist (or similar) piece of art, meaning the context of the white seas didn't make sense? They weren't at sea level? Was it something else about the way that they were depicted that made them not make sense? No to rest. Did the artists intend to cause some level of confusion upon seeing the piece of art? Yes, with the usual FA. You should try to sort out what it is. Were they happy with the result? Irrelevant, but assume yes. | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 90 Registered: 5-2008 |
Was the art created by humans? Was it intended as art? Was it a coincidence that there was a collection of the art in one place? Is there a better word for it than 'art'? Was it at an event that had to be paid for especially? In a public place? inside? outside? Were the 'white seas' indended to be something else? Were they actually just random wave shapes or something similar? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 377 Registered: 12-2007 |
Was the art created by humans? Yes. Was it intended as art? Yes. Was it a coincidence that there was a collection of the art in one place? Huh? Did I say that? Is there a better word for it than 'art'? It is a specific form of art. Explore this. Was it at an event that had to be paid for especially? FA. In a public place? inside? outside? Were the 'white seas' indended to be something else? Yes. Were they actually just random wave shapes or something similar? No. | ||
| Adryghi (Adryghi)
New member Username: Adryghi Post Number: 127 Registered: 1-2008 |
Is the title of the puzzle relevant? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 382 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is the title of the puzzle relevant? In a lateral way, yes. | ||
| Adryghi (Adryghi)
New member Username: Adryghi Post Number: 128 Registered: 1-2008 |
Were the "white seas" in fact fleece? Is there a boat/ship anywhere involved in this puzzle? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 383 Registered: 12-2007 |
Were the "white seas" in fact fleece? No, but interesting idea. Is there a boat/ship anywhere involved in this puzzle? Yes, but be careful. | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 98 Registered: 5-2008 |
Would you expect this kind of art to be displayed in a modern art gallery? Were the 'white seas' clouds? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 399 Registered: 12-2007 |
Would you expect this kind of art to be displayed in a modern art gallery? No. Were the 'white seas' clouds? No. HINT: you haven't sorted out what form of art we are talking about. It is actually very common and it would really help you to find out more about it. | ||
| Mimino (Mimino)
New member Username: Mimino Post Number: 37 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the piece of art something visible? audible? touchable? a happening or social experience of some kind? Is it music? a video clip? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 401 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is the piece of art something visible? No. audible? Yes! touchable? a happening or social experience of some kind? No. Is it music? Yes! a video clip? Maybe, but only the music is relevant here. | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 109 Registered: 5-2008 |
Is 'White Seas' the title of the piece of music? The name of the artist? Something else? In what way did you hear the piece: on the radio? on the internet? on television? performed live? over a PA system? Were the colleagues present musicians? If so, was it their piece of music? Were they actually performing the piece at the time? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 405 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is 'White Seas' the title of the piece of music? The name of the artist? Something else? Something else. In what way did you hear the piece: on the radio? on the internet? on television? performed live? over a PA system? Any of these is possible but not really relevant, even though I am not sure what a PA system is... Were the colleagues present musicians? Yes. But what do you mean by "present"? If so, was it their piece of music? Yes. Were they actually performing the piece at the time? At what time? | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 111 Registered: 5-2008 |
PA system = Public Address System (loud speaker) I meant 'were the colleagues that were present musicians?' And by 'Were they actually performing the piece at the time?' I meant when you were pondering 'white seas' were the four other people playing the piece themselves? It's a bit early for me to come across as clear, so sorry about that. | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 407 Registered: 12-2007 |
PA system = Public Address System (loud speaker) Thanks. That could also be. I meant 'were the colleagues that were present musicians?' Then I should say "FA", because we have not established any context in which these people can be present. And by 'Were they actually performing the piece at the time?' I meant when you were pondering 'white seas' were the four other people playing the piece themselves? That's a no. I heard the piece a number of times and I started pondering about the "white seas", but I have never heard it played live. It's a bit early for me to come across as clear, so sorry about that. No worries. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 150 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did something actually occur that made you realise it didn't make sense? or was more something that occured to you randomly, after a progression of time? The 4 artists are a band? of four members? "white seas" is a lyric/part of a lyric? "boat" is a lyric/part of a lyric? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 424 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did something actually occur that made you realise it didn't make sense? Yes. or was more something that occured to you randomly, after a progression of time? No. The 4 artists are a band? of four members? Yes to both. "white seas" is a lyric/part of a lyric? "Seas" is part of a lyric, "white" isn't. "boat" is a lyric/part of a lyric? No. Good questions. | ||
| Unleashedllama (Unleashedllama)
New member Username: Unleashedllama Post Number: 123 Registered: 5-2008 |
Queen - Seven Seas of Rye (misheard as 'white') relevant? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 428 Registered: 12-2007 |
Queen - Seven Seas of Rye (misheard as 'white') relevant? Ha! For a moment I winced. Queen — correct. Seven Seas of Rhye — no. We have established that we are dealing with a song (to be determined) by Queen. To avoid $poiling the fun of the puzzle, I would recommend that you don't look up the Wikipedia article for the song once you figure it out, because that's where I gathered the information this puzzle is based upon. | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 1071 Registered: 6-2001 |
Wide seas? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 435 Registered: 12-2007 |
Wide seas? No. I did not mishear anything. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1301 Registered: 9-2003 |
so white isn't part of the lyrics, but you didn't mishear? is white implied? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 437 Registered: 12-2007 |
so white isn't part of the lyrics, but you didn't mishear? Correct. is white implied? Yes. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1308 Registered: 9-2003 |
is something white mentioned? an object? an animal? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 439 Registered: 12-2007 |
is something white mentioned? Yope. an object? an animal? None of these. | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 440 Registered: 12-2007 |
OOOOOPS! An object? It is not mentioned directly, but otherwise yes. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2021 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is a synonym for white relevant? Ivory? Snowy? Chalky? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 443 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is a synonym for white relevant? Yes-ish. Ivory? Snowy? Chalky? OTRT, but not these. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2024 Registered: 8-2006 |
Lemme guess... Is it a word that means white in another language? Say the italian Bianca, and I have no idea about any other languages? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 445 Registered: 12-2007 |
Lemme guess... Is it a word that means white in another language? Say the italian Bianca, and I have no idea about any other languages? No, it's an English word. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1313 Registered: 9-2003 |
albino? ashy? blank? colourless? bleached? pure? innocent? clean? milky? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 448 Registered: 12-2007 |
albino? ashy? blank? colourless? bleached? pure? innocent? clean? milky? <--- We have a winner! | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 449 Registered: 12-2007 |
******* RECAP ******* In a certain song by Queen, the lyrics "milky seas" are mentioned. I was always bewildered at the thought of opalescent sea waters, until I realised that... I suggest you google up the lyrics to the song in question — it shouldn't be too difficult. Once you've determined the song, don't look it up on Wikipedia as that might $poil the puzzle. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2025 Registered: 8-2006 |
... And here I become absolutely useless... "A night at the Opera" by Queen Definition of milky seas: Milky seas is a condition on the open ocean where large areas of seawater (up to 6000 square miles) are filled with bioluminescent bacteria Relevant whatsoever?? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 452 Registered: 12-2007 |
"A night at the Opera" by Queen VERY relevant... but it's an album. Definition of milky seas: Milky seas is a condition on the open ocean where large areas of seawater (up to 6000 square miles) are filled with bioluminescent bacteria Very interesting. Relevant whatsoever?? Nope (: | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 269 Registered: 5-2007 |
"Milky seas" may possibly be a metaphor for interstellar space. If the song intended in this puzzle is "39", this seems to me highly likely. Is it? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 453 Registered: 12-2007 |
"Milky seas" may possibly be a metaphor for interstellar space. If the song intended in this puzzle is "39", this seems to me highly likely. Is it? Yes, it is. Care to $poil it? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 270 Registered: 5-2007 |
To the best of my recollection (obeying the injunction not to look anything up), "39" concerns a ship that set out "in the year of 39" to find a new home. The lyrics are somewhat obscure, but the notion is that the ship returned in a time that was also "the year of 39" after voyaging "for many a lonely day across the milky seas" (I am quoting from memory here; apologies for any errors and omissions that might creep in). The line "For so many years have gone, though I'm older but a year" suggests that the ship is in fact a spaceship that has travelled to a distant part of the galaxy (the Milky Way) at near-light speed. In that case, the Volunteers on the ship would age much more slowly than the Earth and its inhabitants - in particular, the loved ones they left behind. Whether or not this makes any sense I am not sure. But it's a good song. | ||
| Travis (Travis)
New member Username: Travis Post Number: 113 Registered: 12-2007 |
Also, the line before "milky seas" ends with the word "day," which means that, in order to rhyme, "milky seas" should be "Milky Way." | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 464 Registered: 12-2007 |
To the best of my recollection (obeying the injunction not to look anything up), "39" concerns a ship that set out "in the year of 39" to find a new home. The lyrics are somewhat obscure, but the notion is that the ship returned in a time that was also "the year of 39" after voyaging "for many a lonely day across the milky seas" (I am quoting from memory here; apologies for any errors and omissions that might creep in). The line "For so many years have gone, though I'm older but a year" suggests that the ship is in fact a spaceship that has travelled to a distant part of the galaxy (the Milky Way) at near-light speed. In that case, the Volunteers on the ship would age much more slowly than the Earth and its inhabitants - in particular, the loved ones they left behind. Whether or not this makes any sense I am not sure. But it's a good song. Excellent. Congratulations on your memory, all the lyrics you quoted are correct. Considering your track record, a puzzle about song lyrics is probably bread and butter for you! Let me add only a minor detail: the song is willingly ambiguous about the nature of the voyage ("the ship sailed out into the blue and sunny morn"), but I think the give-away is the fact that, in the line you quoted ("for many a lonely day sailed across the milky seas"), "Milky Way" would rhyme, while "milky seas" doesn't. I really love this (: Here are the lyrics: '39 (May) In the year of thirty-nine Assembled here the volunteers In the days when lands were few Here the ship sailed out into the blue and sunny morn The sweetest sight ever seen And the night followed day And the story tellers say That the score brave souls inside For many a lonely day Sailed across the milky seas Never looked back never feared never cried Don't you hear my call Though you're many years away Don't you hear me calling you Write your letters in the sand For the day I'll take your hand In the land that our grand-children knew In the year of thirty-nine Came a ship in from the blue The volunteers came home that day And they bring good news Of a world so newly born Though their hearts so heavily weigh For the Earth is old and grey Little darlin' well away But my love this cannot be Oh so many years have gone Though I'm older than a year Your mothers eyes from your eyes cry to me Don't you hear my call Though you're many years away Don't you hear me calling you Write your letters in the sand For the day Ill take your hand In the land that our grand-children knew Don't you hear my call Though you're many years away Don't you hear me calling you All your letters in the sand Cannot heal me like your hand For my life still ahead pity me And that's a ************** SPOILER ************** | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 465 Registered: 12-2007 |
Sorry Travis, we cross-posted (: | ||
| Travis (Travis)
New member Username: Travis Post Number: 114 Registered: 12-2007 |
No worries. I figured if I didn't post it, you would anyway... |
