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Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 9:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why would somebody send me a straw?
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You lost your dentures?
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A straw for drinking with?
A piece of straw (as in a plant stalk)?

Send = via the post / hand delivered?

A present?

Was the purpose serious / a joke / a reminder / practical?
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Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007

You lost your dentures? LOL - no

A straw for drinking with? an ordinary drinking straw, yes
A piece of straw (as in a plant stalk)? no

Send = via the post / hand delivered? posted

A present? no

Was the purpose serious / a joke / a reminder / practical? serious
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Was there something special about the individual straw or could it have been any old straw?

Is your relationship with the sender relevant?

Relevant what the straw is made of / what it looks like?
Relevant where the straw is now?
Relevant what is happening to/with the straw now?

Do you have a use for it?
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Was there something special about the individual straw or could it have been any old straw? with certain qualifications it could

Is your relationship with the sender relevant? yessish

Relevant what the straw is made of not really / what it looks like? yes, to a certain degree
Relevant where the straw is now? no
Relevant what is happening to/with the straw now? not now, no

Do you have a use for it? not now
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So, you needed a straw for something specific?
And that purpose has now been fulfilled?

Did you need it for decorative purposes?
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So, you needed a straw for something specific? yope - rephrasing would help
And that purpose has now been fulfilled? yes

Did you need it for decorative purposes? no
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Did you request the straw?
Did the person who sent it benefit from you receiving it?
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Did you request the straw? no
Did the person who sent it benefit from you receiving it? yes
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Was the straw the only thing in the parcel?

Did you know the person who sent it to you? friend? relative? co-worker?
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Was the straw the only thing in the parcel? no, and FA

Did you know the person who sent it to you? no friend? relative? co-worker? none of these
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Did you know what to do with the straw when you received it? Were there instructions with the straw?

Did the straw come in a box? bag? envelope? Is it relevant?

Was it one of those chain type things where you would have to send a straw to somebody else?
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Did you know what to do with the straw when you received it? yes Were there instructions with the straw? yes

Did the straw come in a box? bag? envelope? This one, FA sorted out, it wasn't a parcel Is it relevant? yes, but I wouldn't dwell overly muchly on it

Was it one of those chain type things where you would have to send a straw to somebody else? no
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Besides the straw and instructions, was there anything else in the envelope?

The intended use for the straw...Were you to blow through it? suck something through it? Was it intended to come into contact with your mouth at all? Did you have to alter the straw in anyway?

After using the straw, did you have to respond to the person who sent it to you? provide that person with information?
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Besides the straw and instructions, was there anything else in the envelope? yes

The intended use for the straw...Were you to blow through it? no suck something through it? yessish Was it intended to come into contact with your mouth at all? yes Did you have to alter the straw in anyway? no

After using the straw, did you have to respond to the person who sent it to you? yes provide that person with information? no
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Was the straw intended for you?
Did you have to send the sender something?
Did you have to contact them?
Was/is the sender an individual or an organisation?
Anything to do with charity?
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Was the straw intended for you? yes
Did you have to send the sender something? ideally, yes
Did you have to contact them? not in the first instance, no
Was/is the sender an individual or an organisation? organisation
Anything to do with charity? yes
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suck something through it? yessish

Was the idea of the straw to:
demonstrate something to yourself?
make a point?
to determine / measure something?

Were you to suck and draw something onto the end of the straw?

Is the charity a well known one?
Relevant?

What do they want from you:
money?
time?
services?

Were you already affiliated with them
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suck something through it? yessish - this may be more misleading than it need be, but a change of word will make all things clear

Was the idea of the straw to:
demonstrate something to yourself? yes
make a point? that too
to determine / measure something? in a sense, yes

Were you to suck and draw something onto the end of the straw? no

Is the charity a well known one? yes, although a lot of people are unaware of it
Relevant? not really

What do they want from you:
money? yes
time?
services?

Were you already affiliated with them Indirectly, I think I know where they got my address from, and that's fine, as I support them wholeheartedly
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were you to:
suck something against the straw?
into the straw?
simply suck air?
something esle?
suck at all?

was the idea for you to gain insight:
about yourself?
about something else?
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were you to:
suck something against the straw? no
into the straw? no
simply suck air? yes
something esle? there was something else that you had to do whilst sucking air through the straw, yes
suck at all? I think 'suck' is the best description for drawing air through the straw

was the idea for you to gain insight:
about yourself?
about something else? this one
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So, you had to do something else whislt sucking in air?

Was this:

With your hands?
With your mouth?
Something else?

Is the charity something to do with "disabilities"?
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So, you had to do something else whislt sucking in air?

Was this:

With your hands? yes
With your mouth? no
Something else? yes

Is the charity something to do with "disabilities"? yes it would come under that category
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You had to do more than one thing other than suck air?
Was the idea to illustrate how difficult some aspect of life is for someone with a particular "disability"?

Are we talking "learning disability" or some physical disability?
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You had to do more than one thing other than suck air? yes
Was the idea to illustrate how difficult some aspect of life is for someone with a particular "disability"? absolutely

Are we talking "learning disability" or some physical disability? physical
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Is this something to do with thalidamide?
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Is this something to do with thalidamide? no
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What do we need to discover..

What actions you were required to perform in addition to sucking through the straw?
Any other items sent with the straw?
Any other items you were required the use?
The naturte of the disability?
Anything else?
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do you suck this straw by mouth or by nose?
drugs relevant?
are you paralysed? are you disabled which is relevant to using this straw?
did that straw helped you in doing something and now you don't need it any more or will you need it later on?
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do you suck this straw by mouth or by nose? mouth
drugs relevant? no
are you paralysed? no are you disabled which is relevant to using this straw? remember that this is not me, but a charity making a point - but yes, disability is relevant to the straw
did that straw helped you in doing something and now you don't need it any more or will you need it later on? the straw helped me realise something
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beside the straw and the instruction there was something else... how many? 1? 2?3? more? if more so more but of one kind or more but different things? if different, shape different? material(s) which they are made of? is it a common thing(s) we can easily get it (them) in somewhere? in a shop? on the black market? how much could it (each of them) cost? less than 10$, less than50$? 50-100$? over 100$? over 500$? is it an electic equipment or partly electic equipment? is it a plant? an animal? any other form of life? is is someting made of more than one material?

plastic?
metal?
wood?
glass?
cloth?
liquid?
gas?
something else?
and to all above - is it relevant the particular kind of those materials? which one?

generaly is this thing(s) a liquid? gas? solid?(hard?, pulp?, soft?) something in between? if so - between which and which?
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the straw helped you imagine the problem of a disabled person? what that disabled person would use this straw for? just the straw or together with this other thing(s)? if so, will the disabled person read and follow the same instructions? I think the disability is relevant? only one disability? more than one? 2?3? more?

are you working for this organisation? do you know anybody disabled and you needed to use this straw and this other thng(s) to help this person later on or just to realise something?
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the title of this riddle is The last straw.

did you get more before? similar ones with all the same features? different ones? for different use? for the same use but which brought different results? you had to use all the straws in the same time? or one by one rather? relevant the time between each of the uses? with the previous straws you get any other instructions? different than the one you got recently? tha same? very similar? did you get any other things with the previous straws? different ones than the one you got recently? tha same? very similar?
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Lynne - you missed me at:
Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 1:07 pm:
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beside the straw and the instruction there was something else... how many? 1? just one 2?3? more? no if more so more but of one kind or more but different things? not different, much the same as the instructions if different, shape different? material(s) which they are made of? is it a common thing(s) we can easily get it (them) in somewhere? in a shop? on the black market? how much could it (each of them) cost? less than 10$, less than50$? 50-100$? over 100$? over 500$? nothing that can be bought is it an electic equipment or partly electic equipment? is it a plant? an animal? any other form of life? is is someting made of more than one material? no to all

plastic?
metal?
wood?
glass?
cloth?
liquid?
gas?
something else? this one
and to all above - is it relevant the particular kind of those materials? which one?

generaly is this thing(s) a liquid? gas? solid?(hard? this, pulp?, soft?) something in between? if so - between which and which?

don't dwell too much on what was also in the envelope, you have all that is necessary

the straw helped you imagine the problem of a disabled person? yes what that disabled person would use this straw for? no just the straw or together with this other thing(s)? if so, will the disabled person read and follow the same instructions? no he wouldn't I think the disability is relevant? yes only one disability? yes, or at least that is relevant to the puzzle more than one? 2?3? more?

are you working for this organisation? no do you know anybody disabled yes and you needed to use this straw and this other thng(s) to help this person later on or just to realise something? this was sent by the charity to make the point

the title of this riddle is The last straw. the title is not relevant to the puzzle except that it was a straw that was sent to me - sorry if you got waylaid by the word 'last'

did you get more before? more of what? similar ones with all the same features? different ones? for different use? for the same use but which brought different results? you had to use all the straws in the same time? or one by one rather? relevant the time between each of the uses? with the previous straws you get any other instructions? different than the one you got recently? tha same? very similar? did you get any other things with the previous straws? different ones than the one you got recently? tha same? very similar? I only had one communication from the charity so all these questions are n/r

RECAP for clarity

I had a communication from a charity containing a straw for me to 'suck' through. I also needed to do something else at the same time. The only other contents of the envelope were details of the charity and donation forms.

What else did I need to do apart from sucking through the straw? What did it illustrate for me and can you guess at the charity involved from this illustration?
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re: Lynne - you missed me at:
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actually - i don't think it matters any longer ....
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What do we need to discover.. sorry, didn't see this before

What actions you were required to perform in addition to sucking through the straw? yes
Any other items sent with the straw? no, see above answers
Any other items you were required the use? yes
The naturte of the disability? yes
Anything else? see RECAP
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is the disability connected with:
sight, smell, hearing, nerves, brain, missing part of a body? other?

the other thing you were using.. how many? 1? 2?3? more? if more so more but of one kind or more but different things? if different, shape different? material(s) which they are made of? is it a common thing(s) we can easily get it (them) in somewhere? in a shop? on the black market? how much could it (each of them) cost? less than 10$, less than50$? 50-100$? over 100$? over 500$? is it an electic equipment or partly electic equipment? is it a plant? an animal? any other form of life? or a part of any form of life? is is someting made of more than one material?

plastic?
metal?
wood?
glass?
cloth?
liquid?
gas?
paper?
something else?

and to all above - is it relevant the particular kind of those materials? which one?

generaly is this thing(s) a liquid? gas? solid?(hard?, pulp?, soft?) something in between? if so - between which and which it was:
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is the disability connected with:
sight, smell, hearing, nerves, brain, missing part of a body? other? other

the other thing you were using.. how many? 1? 2?3? two more? if more so more but of one kind or more but different things? two similar things if different, shape different? material(s) which they are made of? is it a common thing(s) we can easily get it (them) in somewhere? in a shop? on the black market? how much could it (each of them) cost? less than 10$, less than50$? 50-100$? over 100$? over 500$? is it an electic equipment or partly electic equipment? is it a plant? an animal? any other form of life? or a part of any form of life? is is someting made of more than one material? it's already been established that you have to do something else with your hand/s

plastic?
metal?
wood?
glass?
cloth?
liquid?
gas?
paper?
something else?

and to all above - is it relevant the particular kind of those materials? which one?

generaly is this thing(s) a liquid? gas? solid?(hard?, pulp?, soft?) something in between? if so - between which and which it was:
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did you touch anything with the straw? except your mouth? did you hold the straw?

you were sucking the air towards yourself (your mouth) like the way you drink e.g. coca-cola or outside - like the way you make bubles in water?
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did you touch anything with the straw? except your mouth? no, nothing else did you hold the straw? no

you were sucking the air towards yourself (your mouth) like the way you drink e.g. coca-cola or outside - like the way you make bubles in water? not really, the purpose of the exercise was to illustrate something else
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did you touch anything with your hands? your hands were tied? or hidden behind so that you couldn't have used them?

the disability is on phisical ground? pchisological (mental)? connected with head? arms? legs? trunk? back? genitals? skin?

inside body? outside?
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did you touch anything with your hands? yes your hands were tied? or hidden behind so that you couldn't have used them? no to both

the disability is on phisical ground? pchisological (mental)? no connected with head? arms? legs? trunk? this is the closest back? and this genitals? skin?

inside body? yes outside?
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bardzo dobrze Kayros

is the disability anything to do with the nervous system? Muscular problems?
paralysis / co-ordination?

If not the above any of the following:
endocrinal disorder
reproductive system
respiratory system
cardio-vascular system
digestive system
skeletal system
skin
neoplasms
congenital disorder
inherited disorder
????

are we talking human beings or animals?
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bardzo dobrze Kayros

is the disability anything to do with the nervous system? Muscular problems?
paralysis / co-ordination? none of these

If not the above any of the following:
endocrinal disorder
reproductive system
respiratory system this one
cardio-vascular system
digestive system and this
skeletal system
skin
neoplasms
congenital disorder if that means from birth, then yes
inherited disorder yes
????

are we talking human beings or animals? humans
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asthma?
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asthma? no
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lupus?
cystic fibrosis?
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lupus? no
cystic fibrosis? yes
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heart? lungs? stomach? liver? pancreas? intestine? kidney?
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heart? lungs? stomach? liver? pancreas? intestine? kidney? lungs and digestive system - cystic fibrosis
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Beroean (Beroean) -how did you know I am polish???
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To find - how to I was to use the straw, and what it illustrated
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ah, I wondered what those words were!
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Did the use of your hands involve touching or applying anything to your face?

Kayros, Wiem poniewaz email .pl :-)
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Did the use of your hands involve touching or applying anything to your face?
touching a part of my face
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did you bind the straw? tear? fold? tie? cut? or you left it as it is in its normal shape?
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did you bind the straw? tear? fold? tie? cut? or you left it as it is in its normal shape?

i didn't do anything to the straw other than put it in my mouth and breathe air through it
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were you supposed touch your nose / close off the air supply to your nose?

Witam Kayros!
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touching mouth? lip? upper? down? tongue? nose? ear? someting else? cheek? is it relevant what part of your face you were touching? how and what for?
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were you supposed touch your nose / close off the air supply to your nose? yes

I think I can go for the spoiler now
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jak się robi kursywę? (how to do italics?) scdsc ok, I know...:-)
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********** SPOILER **********

The Cystic Fibrosis Trust sent me the usual fund raising request, but instead of including a pen they included a straw. It was a thin straw like you get with a carton of juice but twice the length (maybe you get them to drink cocktails, I don't know.) Anyway, you pinched your nose and breathed through the straw for one minute. It seemed easy at first and then quickly you felt breathless. But that is how cystic fibrosis sufferers feel all the time as their lung function is severely impaired, often just 65% of normal capacity.

I felt it was one of the most inspired ways of getting the message across of how that particular disability actually feels.
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Kayros, przepraszam za mój slabi polski
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ok, please go for a spoiler, i am not good in medicine... unless Beroean doesn't want it.

Anyway... why dont you try to guess my riddle?!?! :-) (Towel and wire)
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Good puzzle Lynne!
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Thank you!
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where are you from?

very nice puzzle:-) a nice one!! we were so close... the only thing I forgot that I thought that you sucked the air once and that was it, but no..:-) you were doing it for a longer time...
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I'm from Yorkshire - northern England - but I now live on the east coast.
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I was in England many times.. and once in Scotland:-) (but the questioan was generally to polish-speaking Beroean:-) )
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And I am from the south of England. I am trying to learn Polish but find it very hard!!

We have set some questions in your puzzle Kayros!
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so how do you know polish? - many of us overe there isn't it?
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Tak.. you are in Poland?

see my note above
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We have a lot of Polish farm labourers working round our way.
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I have some Polish friends.
Polish here (about 10,000 in the Basingstoke area) Many are plumbers / bus drivers and work in all places - shops, factories etc

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