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Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 7:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Manuel was dead. Duarte did what he could, and left.
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Manuel = HAM?
What about Duarte?

Is Duarte aware that Manuel was dead?
'did what he could' as in tried to help? if so, Manuel? Did Duarte kill Manuel? If so, by accident? or was it planned?
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Manuel - h/a/m?
Duarte - h/a/m?
Relevant how Manuel died? murder? accident? suicide? natural causes?
Is the relationship between the two relevant? relatives? friends? lovers? acquaintances? strangers?
Duarte did something after Manuel died? or before?
Should we find out what Duarte did?
Should we learn why he left?
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Eli:
Manuel = HAM? Yes to all.
What about Duarte? Same for him.

Is Duarte aware that Manuel was dead? Yes.
'did what he could' as in tried to help? No. if so, Manuel? Did Duarte kill Manuel? No. If so, by accident? or was it planned?

Adryghi:
Manuel - h/a/m? Yes to all.
Duarte - h/a/m? Yes to all.
Relevant how Manuel died? A bit. murder? This one. accident? But this one is not very far, either. suicide? natural causes? No to rest.
Is the relationship between the two relevant? Yes. relatives? friends? This one. lovers? acquaintances? strangers?
Duarte did something after Manuel died? Yes. or before? No.
Should we find out what Duarte did? Yes.
Should we learn why he left? And yes.
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Somebody killed Manuel by accident? Did the murderer want to kill somebody else? Did he want to kill Duarte?
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Somebody killed Manuel by accident? Yes. Did the murderer want to kill somebody else? No. Did he want to kill Duarte? No.
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Is the murderer relevant? and do we need to find out exactly what the accident was? was it a freak accident of some sort? relevant whether or not the "murderer" was caught? and sentenced?
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SLIGHT BLOOPER: the answer to the questions "Did the murderer want to kill somebody else?" and "Did he want to kill Duarte?" should have been "FA".

Is the murderer relevant? Yes-ish, with a FA. and do we need to find out exactly what the accident was? No, but you need to know more than you do now. was it a freak accident of some sort? You mean like a guy being hit on the head by a rock falling off a cliff because a colour-blind squirrel with Parkinson disease pushed it in a frenzy of rage? No. relevant whether or not the "murderer" was caught? and sentenced? Yes, both aspects are relevant, with a FA.
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Was it even a murderer? The "murderer" was human? animal? object? force of nature (like lightning, wind, etc.)? an insect? a fish? a microorganism?
was the "murderer" something gotten out of control (like a car that started to go downhill by itself)?
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Was it even a murderer? Yes, but... The "murderer" was human? Yes, but... animal? You mean non-human animal? No. object? force of nature (like lightning, wind, etc.)? an insect? a fish? a microorganism? No to rest.
was the "murderer" something gotten out of control (like a car that started to go downhill by itself)? No.
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How much time did pass between the moment Manuel died and the moment Duarte did what he could? minutes? hours? a day? few days? few weeks? few months? few years? a lot of years?
Did Manuel have a false identity?
Should we find out who the murderer was? Should we find out the relationship between Manuel and the murderer?
Should we learn what is the occupation of the murderer? how about that of Duarte? or Manuel? Is any of them a doctor?
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How much time did pass between the moment Manuel died and the moment Duarte did what he could? minutes? hours? a day? few days? Something like this. few weeks? few months? few years? a lot of years?
Did Manuel have a false identity? Yes, but may mislead.
Should we find out who the murderer was? Yes, at least roughly. Beware your FA. Should we find out the relationship between Manuel and the murderer? Yes (FA again).
Should we learn what is the occupation of the murderer? Yes (FA). how about that of Duarte? Yes. or Manuel? Only if you want. It's a plus but it's not necessary for the story. Is any of them a doctor? No, but nice thought.
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Was Duarte a priest?
This FA drives me crazy
Murderer= h/a/m?
Oh yeah.. Was Manuel already dead when the murderer "killed" him?
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Was Duarte a police officer?
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Was Duarte a priest? No.
This FA drives me crazy Sorry. Have a look at my other puzzle, that might actually help.
Murderer= h/a/m? FA.
Oh yeah.. Was Manuel already dead when the murderer "killed" him? No.
Was Duarte a police officer? No.
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Is the FA that the person who killed Manuel should not be referred to as a murderer? because he was acquitted? because the killing was an accident?
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Hey thanks :D
Was there more than one murderer? 2? 3? 4? >4?
Were they part of a gang? Did they act on their own?

The occupation of Duarte had anything to do with:
Artistic/musical/writer?
Banking / financial / real estate?
Clerical / Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Security / Law Enforcement?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation /Livery / Trucking ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
Other?
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Lporter229:
Is the FA that the person who killed Manuel should not be referred to as a murderer? because he was acquitted? because the killing was an accident? No, see below.

Adryghi:
Hey thanks :D My pleasure :-)
Was there more than one murderer? 2? 3? 4? >4? Three-four people, the exact number is not important. The nature of the FA, as Adriana figured out, was that there was only one murderer.
Were they part of a gang? Yes. Did they act on their own? No.

The occupation of Duarte had anything to do with:
Artistic/musical/writer? This one a bit.
Banking / financial / real estate?
Clerical / Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ? But mostly this one.
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Security / Law Enforcement?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation /Livery / Trucking ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
Other?

I have noticed that "entertainment" figures twice in this list. We should clean it up a little bit, I guess.
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So the murderers killed Manuel by accident. Was it because they thought he was somebody else?
Was Manuel a member of the gang too? how about Duarte?
were the murderers caught? were they sentenced?
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So the murderers killed Manuel by accident. Exactly. Was it because they thought he was somebody else? No.
Was Manuel a member of the gang too? No. how about Duarte? Neither.
were the murderers caught? No. were they sentenced? And no.
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Should we find out why the murderers weren't caught?
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Should we find out why the murderers weren't caught? Yes, that's quite relevant.
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Did Duarte try to catch the murderers?
The murderers weren't caught because they have covered up their tracks? because nobody looked for them? because they died?
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Did Duarte try to catch the murderers? Yope.
The murderers weren't caught because they have covered up their tracks? No. because nobody looked for them? Yes. because they died? No.
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Did everyone else think it was an accident? and so the police didn't look for any murderers? or were the murderes too young to be prosecuted?
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Did everyone else think it was an accident? and so the police didn't look for any murderers? or were the murderes too young to be prosecuted? No to all.
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Just to get one thing out of the way - are everyone in this story human? adults?
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Just to get one thing out of the way - are everyone in this story human? adults? Yesyesyes.
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The murderers did not intend to kill him. Is this correct?

Any bets? or games? or challenges? relevant? relevant whether police knew about what had happened or not?
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The murderers did not intend to kill him. Is this correct? Yes.

Any bets? or games? or challenges? No to these. relevant? relevant whether police knew about what had happened or not? Oh yes. They knew.
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Did Duarte know who the murderers were?
Did the murderers intend to kill somebody the day they killed Manuel?
Did Duarte think he killed Manuel?
Nobody looked for the killers because Duarte took the blame? because Duarte did/said something? because everybody knew it was an accident?
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Did Duarte know who the murderers were? Yes.
Did the murderers intend to kill somebody the day they killed Manuel? No.
Did Duarte think he killed Manuel? No.
Nobody looked for the killers because Duarte took the blame? because Duarte did/said something? because everybody knew it was an accident? No to all.
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Just to get this straight - the police knew exactly what had happened, but for some reason they didn't not follow up? Is there any misunderstanding involved? Did they investigate at all?

Do we have to find exactly how Manuel died?
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Just to get this straight - the police knew exactly what had happened, but for some reason they didn't follow up? Correct. Is there any misunderstanding involved? No. Did they investigate at all? No.

Do we have to find exactly how Manuel died? It is not strictly relevant, but it might point you in the right direction.
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Did he die of asphyxiation? was he shot? did he fall? was he stabbed?
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Relevant what the murderers did after they killed Manuel?
The relationship between the murderers and Manuel: strangers? acquaintances? friends? relatives? work in the same place?

The occupation of the murderers had anything to do with:
Artistic/musical/writer?
Banking / financial / real estate?
Clerical / Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Security / Law Enforcement?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation /Delivery / Trucking ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
Other?
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Did the police not go after the murderers because they were afraid? had been threatened? had been bribed? were hoping to get the murderers on other charges? were just too lazy?
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Eli:
Did he die of asphyxiation? was he shot? did he fall? was he stabbed? None of these.

Adryghi:
Relevant what the murderers did after they killed Manuel? Not really.
The relationship between the murderers and Manuel: strangers? This one. acquaintances? friends? relatives? work in the same place?

The occupation of the murderers had anything to do with:
Artistic/musical/writer?
Banking / financial / real estate?
Clerical / Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ? This one.
Security / Law Enforcement? And especially this one.
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation /Delivery / Trucking ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Jailbird / Criminal? ...and one might say this one, too.
Religion?
Other?

Lporter229:
Did the police not go after the murderers because they were afraid? No. had been threatened? No. had been bribed? Yope. were hoping to get the murderers on other charges? No. were just too lazy? No.

Good round of questions, everybody. I think you should see some light now.
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Were the murderers corrupt police officers?
Did they try to cover up the murder?
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Were the murderers corrupt police officers? Yes.
Did they try to cover up the murder? No.
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Did they beat Manuel to death?

Is Duarte a reporter? photographer? investigator?

Did Duarte leave because he figured out that the police killed Manuel and he did not want to get involved?
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Did they beat Manuel to death? Yes! Very good intuition.

Is Duarte a reporter? Yes-ish. He's actually a journalist. photographer? investigator?

Did Duarte leave because he figured out that the police killed Manuel and he did not want to get involved? No, that's not it.

Excellent job. Now all that's left to find out what the second part of the puzzle statement refers to.
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Oops. That should have been "all that's left to find out is what the second part..."
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Did Duarte try to cover up the crime? expose it?
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Did Duarte try to cover up the crime? No. expose it? Yes.
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Did Duarte take photos of Manuel? If so, relevant if they were ever published or not?
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Did Duarte take photos of Manuel? No. If so, relevant if they were ever published or not?
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Did Duarte record something? Pick something up? Is it relevant what type of media he is working for?
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Did Duarte record something? No. Pick something up? Yes. Is it relevant what type of media he is working for? Yes-ish.
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Was Manuel beaten to death at his home? at the jail? in a different public place? Did they leave his body at the place where he was killed? Is the location of Manuel's body the same place that Duarte "left" in the puzzle statement?
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Had one of the policemen left something behind?

Is Duarte working for a
newspaper?
tv?
radio?
magazine?
freelancer?
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Was Manuel committing a crime when he was beaten by the cops?
Were the cops trying to "teach him a lesson"?
Was Manuel threatening the cops? blackmailing them?
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Lporter229:
Was Manuel beaten to death at his home? at the jail? in a different public place? None of these. Did they leave his body at the place where he was killed? Yes. Is the location of Manuel's body the same place that Duarte "left" in the puzzle statement? Yope, explore.

Eli:
Had one of the policemen left something behind? No.

Is Duarte working for a
newspaper? This one.
tv?
radio?
magazine?
freelancer?

Adryghi:
Was Manuel committing a crime when he was beaten by the cops? Yope.
Were the cops trying to "teach him a lesson"? Yes.
Was Manuel threatening the cops? blackmailing them? No and no.
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Was Duarte there in person?

Did the cops think that Manuel was committing a crime, but in reality he wasn't? If so, relevant what kind of crime they thought it was?
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Was Duarte there in person? You mean, where Manuel was beaten to death? Yes-ish.

Did the cops think that Manuel was committing a crime, but in reality he wasn't? No. If so, relevant what kind of crime they thought it was?
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You said that Duarte picked something up. Did he pick up a piece of evidence? Did he pick up Manuel's body?
Did Durate do something to stop the cops from killing Manuel? Did the cops know they have been seen by Duarte?
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You said that Duarte picked something up. Indeed. Did he pick up a piece of evidence? I assume you mean evidence of Manuel's murder. No. Did he pick up Manuel's body? No. I would recommend not pursuing this line of inquiry because it will not prove very fruitful and may even mislead you.
Did Durate do something to stop the cops from killing Manuel? Yes, but he couldn't (obviously). Did the cops know they have been seen by Duarte? Yes.
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Did the cops do something to Duarte? did they say something to him? did they threaten him?
Relevant what Duarte tried to do to stop the cops?
Should we find out what crime Manuel was committing?
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Did the cops do something to Duarte? Yes. did they say something to him? Yes. did they threaten him? Exactly.
Relevant what Duarte tried to do to stop the cops? No. He couldn't do much but argue.
Should we find out what crime Manuel was committing? It is not strictly necessary, but it could be useful to understand the context of the puzzle and Duarte's reasons and actions.
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Should we know more about Manuel? what his race was maybe?
Was Manuel on the phone with Duarte when the cops were beating him?
Did Manuel do something to a cop and angered the police officers?
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Should we know more about Manuel? Well, there IS a reason why he was beaten by the cops. Maybe figuring this out will help you with Duarte's role as well. what his race was maybe? No, this is irrelevant.
Was Manuel on the phone with Duarte when the cops were beating him? No.
Did Manuel do something to a cop and angered the police officers? No.
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Was Manuel working under 'cover trying' to find a good story? if so, did he interfere with police work somehow?
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Was Manuel working under 'cover trying' to find a good story? FA if so, did he interfere with police work somehow? Yope.
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Hmm, that FA. Was Manuel a reporter also? or only Duarte?

Did he interfere somehow? were the police doing something criminal at the time?
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did they beat Manuel up because he was friends with Duarte? was M trying to get D to write about the officers? was D there to record what was said between M and the police? was he hiding?
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Eli:
Hmm, that FA. Was Manuel a reporter also? No, FA solved or only Duarte?

Did he interfere somehow? Who interfered with what? were the police doing something criminal at the time? Yes!

~damia~:
did they beat Manuel up because he was friends with Duarte? No. was M trying to get D to write about the officers? No. was D there to record what was said between M and the police? No. was he hiding? No, but explore.
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I was thinking when you said yope to interfering with police work, that maybe he (Manuel) was interfering, but just not with police work??

Don't think this has been asked, but was Manuel a criminal?
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I was thinking when you said yope to interfering with police work, that maybe he (Manuel) was interfering, but just not with police work?? No, he was interfyopering with police work.

Don't think this has been asked, but was Manuel a criminal? Guess what? Yope.
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Was Manuel a cop pretending to a criminal? A criminal pretending to be a cop?
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Was Manuel a cop pretending to a criminal? A criminal pretending to be a cop? Neither.
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Is Manuel performing some act of crime right before the police beat him to death?
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Is Manuel performing some act of crime right before the police beat him to death? No.
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The thing that we should know about Manuel, is it related to his;

place of birth?
family?
maritial status?
job?
education?
hobbies?
friends?
religion?
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The thing that we should know about Manuel, is it related to his;

place of birth? No.
family? No.
maritial status? No.
job? No, with the slightest of ish-es.
education? Yes-ish.
hobbies? No.
friends? Y-ish.
religion? No.

The best-fitting category is not in this list, however. Explore further.
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Has Manuel ever been in jail?
Something relevant about his past? his physical appearance?
Was he a beggar?
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Hmmm, something yesishly relevant about his education and friends....

Firs of all, something relevant regarding his physical? or mental health?

Does Manuel have friends? If he has, are only some of them relevant? relevant how? or when? he met those friends?
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Adryghi:
Has Manuel ever been in jail? No.
Something relevant about his past? Yes. his physical appearance? No.
Was he a beggar? No.

Eli:
Firs of all, something relevant regarding his physical? or mental health? No.

Does Manuel have friends? Yes. If he has, are only some of them relevant? Yes. relevant how? or when? he met those friends? How he met them is relevant.
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Did he meet them as a child? teenager? adult? during his studies? through work? through a hobby?
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Did he meet them as a child? teenager? adult? Probably this one. during his studies? And this one. through work? through a hobby?
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Did something relevant happen during his student years? is that something related to being a student?
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Are the "friends" that are relevant Duarte? or there are some other relevant friends?
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Eli:
Did something relevant happen during his student years? Yes. is that something related to being a student? Not directly.

HINT: Manuel is still a student, and some of the relevant people are probably students as well. They are doing something relevant together.


Adryghi:
Are the "friends" that are relevant Duarte? No. or there are some other relevant friends? Yes, see above.
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Are they protesting/demonstrating?
Are they conducting an experiment?
investigating something?
Relevant what subject they are studying?
Are they journalism students?
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Are they protesting Yes. /demonstrating? No.
Are they conducting an experiment? No.
investigating something? Possibly.
Relevant what subject they are studying? No.
Are they journalism students? Irrelevant.
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Are they protesting against police brutality? researching it?
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Are they protesting against police brutality? researching it? No to both.
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BLOOPER: Are they protesting against police brutality? Should have been "Yope."
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Are they preparing a protest against police brutality? are they protesting against police corruption?
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Are they preparing a protest against police brutality? are they protesting against police corruption? Yope to both, police brutality/corruption are only two partial aspects of what they are "protesting" against.
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Is the nature of the protest relevant?
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Is the nature of the protest relevant? Yes, for svv of "protest".
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What is "svv"?
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Sufficiently vague values
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Are they writing for the college newspaper? and investigating police brutality and corruption to make their fellow students protest?
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Are they writing for the college newspaper? and investigating police brutality and corruption to make their fellow students protest? No.

HINT: Perhaps it might be worth to explore the time frame of the puzzle a bit.
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You said a few days took place between Manuel's death and Duarte's action(s). Did something else relevant happen those days?
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You said a few days took place between Manuel's death and Duarte's action(s). Did something else relevant happen those days? Duarte's actions took one or two days. When I gave the hint, however, I was thinking more about the context of the puzzle...
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Now I am totally puzzled, excuse the pun, lol

Was anyone (else than "yopeihsly" Duarte") present when Manuel was beaten to death?
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Now I am totally puzzled, excuse the pun, lol Sorry to hear that. I meant that the era when the puzzle takes place is relevant.

Was anyone (else than "yopeihsly" Duarte") present when Manuel was beaten to death? No.
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Was manuael's death caught on video tape?

Is race relevant?
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Was manuael's death caught on video tape? No.

Is race relevant? No.
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The era when the puzzle takes place, like.. the age?
before Christ? after?
Is Manuel one of the apostles?
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is it 21st century? 20th? 19th? 18th? Earlier (not sure how old newspapers are,lol)?
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Adryghi:
The era when the puzzle takes place, like.. the age? Yes.
before Christ? after? After.
Is Manuel one of the apostles? No, but nice idea.

Eli:
is it 21st century? 20th? This one, explore further. 19th? 18th? Earlier (not sure how old newspapers are,lol)?
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Before WW1? Between WW1 and WW2? After WW2
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Was this the Chicago massacre thing? Where the police killed... 9 protestants I think?
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Eli:
Before WW1? Between WW1 and WW2? This one. After WW2

Crazypalpig:
Was this the Chicago massacre thing? Where the police killed... 9 protestants I think? No.
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Is this related to the mob bosses of the Prohibition era? Oh! Does Prohibition have anything to do with it?
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Is this related to the mob bosses of the Prohibition era? No. Oh! Does Prohibition have anything to do with it? No, but keep them coming. Where does this happen, for example?
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In Europe? Africa? Asia? North America? South America? Australia?
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In Europe? This one... Africa? Asia? North America? South America? Australia?
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spesific country relevant? if so, in scandinavia? uk/ireland? middle europe? southern europe? eastern europe?
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spesific country relevant? Yes. if so, in scandinavia? uk/ireland? middle europe? southern europe? This one. eastern europe?
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Portugal? Spain? Italy? Greece? Cyprus? France? Any of the "new" countries?
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Portugal? This one. Spain? Italy? Greece? Cyprus? France? Any of the "new" countries?
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Is the Portuguese coup d'etat of the late 1920's-early 1930's relevant?
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Is the Portuguese coup d'etat of the late 1920's-early 1930's relevant? Very much so.
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Do we need to know the spesifics of this event? Are Manuel and Duarte well known?
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Do we need to know the spesifics of this event? No specific knowledge of the coup events is required, but if you have ever heard anything about fascist dictatorships you should be able to put some of the pieces together... Are Manuel and Duarte well known? No.
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Did the criminal police do whatever they did with the bleesing of the state? Or were they behaving criminal according to the laws?
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Did the criminal police do whatever they did with the bleesing of the state? You mean blessing, right? Yes. Or were they behaving criminal according to the laws? Not sure about this point. I would say yes, but it is quite irrelevant.

So, what does it mean that "Duarte did what he could, and left"?
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There was obviously no point in exposing them to the authorities then? So did he do what he did to get the attention of international organisations?
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There was obviously no point in exposing them to the authorities then? Probably not. So did he do what he did to get the attention of international organisations? Possibly, but the real goal was a bit less ambitious.
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Did he want to show the general public what had happened? To stir a riot or a rising against the regime?
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Did he want to show the general public what had happened? Yes. To stir a riot or a rising against the regime? In the best case, yes.
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Do we have to find out more about Manuel's death? Or is everything left to discover what Duarte did before he left? Is there anything else going on?
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Do we have to find out more about Manuel's death? No. Or is everything left to discover what Duarte did before he left? Yes. Is there anything else going on? Besides what Duarte did? No.

We have ascertained that Duarte, being a journalist, tried to expose the murder to the general public. However...
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Is it relevant where Duarte was when Manuel was murdered? Did he witness the murder "live"? If he was at the scene, did the policemen know he was there?
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Duarte left?...the murder scene? the country? someplace else?

Did he print a story exposing the police and then flee the country to protect himself?
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Eli:
Is it relevant where Duarte was when Manuel was murdered? Yes. Did he witness the murder "live"? Yes-ish. If he was at the scene, did the policemen know he was there? Yes.

Lporter229:
Duarte left?...the murder scene? No. the country? Yes! someplace else?

Did he print a story exposing the police and then flee the country to protect himself? Yes! But... a piece is missing here.
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Is it relevant why the police didn't try to stop Duarte? or kill him also? did they know he was a journalist?
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Is it relevant why the police didn't try to stop Duarte? Yes. or kill him also? Yes. did they know he was a journalist? Yes.
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Did the police know Duarte was going to expose them? Did they know he was going to flee the country? Did they want him to expose them? the regime? Did they want to arrest him? kill him? but couldn't?
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Did the police know Duarte was going to expose them? Did they know he was going to flee the country? Did they want him to expose them? the regime? Did they want to arrest him? kill him? but couldn't? No to all.
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So Duarte was a journalist who discovered that the police had beaten Manual to death. He printed a story exposing the crime and fled the country. But there is more to the story...Do we need to discover how Duarte knew of the crime? Why he felt his life was in danger when he printed the story? Did Duarte double-cross the police by printing the story? Was there something else that the police did between the time Manual was killed and when Duarte printed the story? Something that threatened Duarte, possibly?
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So Duarte was a journalist who discovered that the police had beaten Manual to death. Right. He printed a story exposing the crime Not so fast... and fled the country. Yes. But there is more to the story...Do we need to discover how Duarte knew of the crime? No, you already do. He was there when it happened. Why he felt his life was in danger when he printed the story? This should also be clear from the context. Did Duarte double-cross the police by printing the story? Was there something else that the police did between the time Manual was killed and when Duarte printed the story? Something that threatened Duarte, possibly? No to rest.

HINT: Something happened between the murder and the time Duarte's article was published. If you tried to publish a touchy and compromising article, what would your main problem be?
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Well, today you would be afraid of litigation. But I guess that was not so important in a regime like that? But Duarte needed perhapse to make arrangements for his escape? He would probably have been arrested after publishing the article?
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Well, today you would be afraid of litigation. But I guess that was not so important in a regime like that? No, it wasn't. But Duarte needed perhapse to make arrangements for his escape? Yes, but that's not what his problem was. He would probably have been arrested after publishing the article? No, that's not it.
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Censorship? Did Duarte self-publish and self-distribute his article?
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Censorship? Yes! Did Duarte self-publish and self-distribute his article? But no.
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Did he use the time to write the article in such a way it wouldn't be touched by censors? If so, did he write in code somehow?
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Did he use the time to write the article in such a way it wouldn't be touched by censors? No. If so, did he write in code somehow? No.
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Just got a new idea. Did he write the article in such a way that when the censors had taken out the "bad" parts, the message was still left? Did he know exactly what words the censors would remove?
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Just got a new idea. Did he write the article in such a way that when the censors had taken out the "bad" parts, the message was still left? Interesting idea, but unfortunately no. What he did is much more prosaic. Did he know exactly what words the censors would remove? No.
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Just to confirm - the article WAS censored. Right? Was it ever printed? Did he bring a copy of the original article with him when he fled the country?
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Just to confirm - the article WAS censored. Right? No. Was it ever printed? Yes. Did he bring a copy of the original article with him when he fled the country? Irrelevant, probably no.
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So we have to find the reason why it was not censored?
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So we have to find the reason why it was not censored? Yes. How did he do?
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Was it published in a national paper? Local paper? Did the article actually go through the censors, but wasn't altered? or did he manage to get the article published without going through the censors' office?
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Was it published in a national paper? Local paper? Irrelevant. Did the article actually go through the censors, but wasn't altered? No. or did he manage to get the article published without going through the censors' office? Yes.
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Just getting my thoughts in order:
Duarte was a journalist in Portugal during the '28th May coup d'état' in Portugal, where his student friend Manuel was protesting?
In stemming the protest, a group of police arrested Manuel and started beating him, and eventually killed him. Duarte witnessed this, but his role as a journalist meant that the police couldn't kill him, as Duarte was a public figure, but they could threaten with action if he attempted to reveal them. They were also aware of the censorship that was instituted on June 22, and realised that Duarte was effectively powerless in exposing them.
Duarte also realised this but found a way around it, published an article exposing Manuel's death, and fled across the border to Spain, probably with family in tow...

Was the newspaper articles censored after the article was written at the newspaper office, but before it was sent to the publishing house/machines?
Did Duarte somehow managed to change the final 'authorised' newspaper master before it arrived at the machine, by slipping an 'authorised'-looking copy of his article into the master copy, or even physically breaking into the printers and 'wrote' his article with the movable type characters?

Did his article replace another article that the censors saw and approve?
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Just getting my thoughts in order:
Duarte was a journalist in Portugal during the '28th May coup d'état' in Portugal, where his student friend Manuel was protesting? Almost. The facts took place a bit later (in the years right before WWII) and Manuel was actually a bit more involved than simple protest, but both these particulars are irrelevant.
In stemming the protest, a group of police arrested Manuel and started beating him, and eventually killed him. Correct. Duarte witnessed this, but his role as a journalist meant that the police couldn't kill him, as Duarte was a public figure, That was not the reason, as Duarte is not really well known; killing him was simply useless and would have just made a bigger mess. but they could threaten with action if he attempted to reveal them. Yes. They were also aware of the censorship that was instituted on June 22, and realised that Duarte was effectively powerless in exposing them. Exactly.
Duarte also realised this but found a way around it, published an article exposing Manuel's death, and fled across the border to Spain, I think he fled to France eventually. Franco was already in power in Spain at that time. probably with family in tow... He was alone.

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Was the newspaper articles censored after the article was written at the newspaper office, but before it was sent to the publishing house/machines? That was the usual procedure, but Duarte's paper never went through the censor's office (see post from March 26).
Did Duarte somehow managed to change the final 'authorised' newspaper master before it arrived at the machine, by slipping an 'authorised'-looking copy of his article into the master copy, or even physically breaking into the printers and 'wrote' his article with the movable type characters? No to both, but nice ideas.

Did his article replace another article that the censors saw and approve? No.

Good questions.

HINT: He did something less acrobatic than what you imagined. Think about the fact that Duarte had been working in the same newspaper for a while.
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Did he bribe someone? did he persuade someone to not censor the article?
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Did he bribe someone? No. did he persuade someone to not censor the article? Yope to no-ish.
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Not sure how this censor thing would work, so I feel like this is practice shooting in the dark, lol

Were the censors on location? Or did the articles have to be sent to off to a government office to be censored? Would anyone at all have access to the article after it was censored, but before it was printed?

Was it Duarte's responsibility to have the article censored before printing? Is the procedure of this relevant? Let's say an article was perfectly fine, did it then get a mark or stamp to say so?
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Not sure how this censor thing would work, so I feel like this is practice shooting in the dark, lol I don't have very accurate information either, so I will try to do my best.

Were the censors on location? No. Or did the articles have to be sent to off to a government office to be censored? Yes. This is relevant. Would anyone at all have access to the article after it was censored, but before it was printed? Irrelevant.

Was it Duarte's responsibility to have the article censored before printing? Yes. Is the procedure of this relevant? Not the details, but not all procedures would work for the puzzle. Let's say an article was perfectly fine, did it then get a mark or stamp to say so? No.
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Is it relevant who takes the articles to be censored? Is it the journalists themselves?
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Once the censors office have confirmed an article to be printed, do they mark the article in any way to say that, "yes, this article is approved to be printed"?

If so, did Duarte forge this signature of approval, or even cut and paste one from an older article?

If not, is there any other physical methods of determining that an article has passed through the censors' office? Such as a dedicated delivery service to the printers that Duarte's article could somehow find it's way in?
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Eli:
Is it relevant who takes the articles to be censored? Is it the journalists themselves? I think it is mailed.

Zenith:
Once the censors office have confirmed an article to be printed, do they mark the article in any way to say that, "yes, this article is approved to be printed"? I don't really know, but say no.

If so, did Duarte forge this signature of approval, or even cut and paste one from an older article? No.

If not, is there any other physical methods of determining that an article has passed through the censors' office? Yes, for svv of "physical". Such as a dedicated delivery service to the printers that Duarte's article could somehow find it's way in? But not this one.

Your second line of reasoning is closest.
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If an article is sent to the censors and not changed, would there be any changes at all in the appearance of it from when it reaches the censors' office and when it returns? If it is, can it be seen on the first page?

Do the censors simply read the typed article and while doing so correct it with a pen? If so, does the pen have a special colour? Or do they re-type the article, so that no one can see what the original contained? If they re-type, do they do that on special paper? Special colour maybe?
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If an article is sent to the censors and not changed, would there be any changes at all in the appearance of it from when it reaches the censors' office and when it returns? Not necessarily. If it is, can it be seen on the first page?

Do the censors simply read the typed article and while doing so correct it with a pen? If so, does the pen have a special colour? Or do they re-type the article, so that no one can see what the original contained? If they re-type, do they do that on special paper? Special colour maybe? All irrelevant.
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Did the thing Duarte picked up at the scene of murder (as stated in your answer of February 13) in some way give him the opportunity to evade the censorship problem?
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Did the thing Duarte picked up at the scene of murder (as stated in your answer of February 13) in some way give him the opportunity to evade the censorship problem? No, the thing he picked up is irrelevant for the puzzle. I should have mentioned this earlier, sorry.
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Did Duarte forge the seal of the envelope from the censorate? Or something similar to this? Was his action performed prior to the censorship procedure, during it, or after?
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Did Duarte forge the seal of the envelope from the censorate? No. Or something similar to this? In a wide sense, yes. Was his action performed prior to the censorship procedure, during it, or after? Before, or FA. The article never went through the censor's office (see March 26).
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So Duarte did something to indicate that the article had been through the censors' office. Right?
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So Duarte did something to indicate that the article had been through the censors' office. Right? Yes.
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So we need to determine what the censors did to indicate an article was ready for printing? And how Duarte managed to do that instead?
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So we need to determine what the censors did to indicate an article was ready for printing? No, not really. And how Duarte managed to do that instead? Yes.

It's really simple, I swear. Why do you think it is relevant that Duarte had worked in the same newspaper for many years?
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Did he have connections? Friends in high places who helped him get it through?
Is the relevance of his working there for a long time that he understood the system, knew the loopholes and how to get around it? Had he been involved in setting up the censorship system?
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Enjay mentioned friends in high places - where the editor? or subeditor? in on it? If so, any reason why they got away with it?
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Enjay:
Did he have connections? Yes-ish. Friends in high places who helped him get it through? But not this.
Is the relevance of his working there for a long time that he understood the system, knew the loopholes and how to get around it? No. Had he been involved in setting up the censorship system? No.

Eli:
Enjay mentioned friends in high places - where the editor? or subeditor? in on it? No. If so, any reason why they got away with it? N/A.

Questions on the right track...
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Did someone help him? If so, someone from within the paper? someone else?
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Did someone help him? Yes! If so, someone from within the paper? No. someone else? Yes!
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Was this someone working at the censors' office?
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Was this someone working at the censors' office? No.
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Was this person somehow connected with the procedure of getting things censored? Is it relevant what his/her job was?
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Was this person somehow connected with the procedure of getting things censored? No. Is it relevant what his/her job was? No.
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Did the person who helped him pretend to work at the censor's office? Is it relevant how Duarte knew that person?
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Did the person who helped him pretend to work at the censor's office? Yes. Is it relevant how Duarte knew that person? No, which is why I think we can wrap this up now.

***************** SPOILER *****************

Lisbon, 1938. Manuel, a young student, is forming dangerous friendships with some Spanish republican rebels organising active protests against Salazar's fascist regime. Duarte writes cultural articles for a local newspaper and does not want to get involved in complicated political activities.

The two become friends. As Manuel's involvement in the republican cause grows, so do his troubles, and Duarte finds himself more than once in the position of having to lend a helping hand to the young man.

Soon, the regime discovers that Manuel is hiding in Duarte's apartment and decides it is time to "teach him a lesson". Three would-be policemen show up at Duarte's place. Things slip out of hand. Manuel is beaten to death in Duarte's bedroom, while the third thug threatens Duarte to keep his mouth shut. Confident that censorship would reduce Duarte to silence, they flee the place leaving Manuel's body behind.

The shocking events make Duarte realise how much his friendship with Manuel had changed him. He does what he can: he writes an article denouncing the criminal methods used by the regime. With the help of a friend from abroad, who pretends over the phone to work at the censor's office, and of the typographer's trust, built in years of loyal collaboration, he manages to sneak the article into print. His action, however, leaves him with no choice but fleeing the country.

The story is allegedly true and is taken from "Sostiene Pereira" ("Pereira claims"), a novel by Italian writer Antonio Tabucchi, which was later also made into a film with Marcello Mastroianni. Duarte's surname (in the book) is Pereira. His first name is actually never mentioned, so I made it up.

Many thanks to everyone for playing, and especially to Eli for her patience and to Alex319 who filled in the last bit while at the same time cracking wide open my other puzzle...

Please check my other running puzzle! It has suffered from severe staleness for a while now.

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