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Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 2:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I opened the door and I understood right away that, most probably, I would not run into anyone.

A possible quickie...
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 4:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

run into: collide with? encounter?

anyone: someone you know? another person in general? another being in general? someone specific?

the door: to your home? a building? a vehicle? were you entering through the door? exiting? neither?

Is the weather relevant?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 4:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

run into: collide with? encounter? This one.

anyone: someone you know? Possibly. another person in general? Yes. another being in general? ? someone specific? No.

the door: to your home? Yes. a building? No. a vehicle? No. were you entering through the door? exiting? This one. neither?

Is the weather relevant? No.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the time of the day relevant? the time of the year?
Did you see something in particular that made you understand this? hear something?
Is the building where you live relevant? the area?
Did you actually step outside? or where you still inside a building stepping outside your apartment?
Did you carry anything relevant?
Are other people involved?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 5:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the time of the day relevant? No. the time of the year? No.
Did you see something in particular that made you understand this? Yes. hear something? No.
Is the building where you live relevant? Somewhat. the area? No.
Did you actually step outside? No. or where you still inside a building stepping outside your apartment? Yes.
Did you carry anything relevant? No.
Are other people involved? No.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 6:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the thing you saw an object? something living? was this thing outside your apartment? inside the building? part of the building?
How many people live in the building, more than 2? 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? relevant?
Has anything to be found out about the architecture of the building?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 8:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the thing you saw an object? No. something living? No. was this thing outside your apartment? Yes. inside the building? Yes. part of the building? Yope.
How many people live in the building, more than 2? 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? I think about this. relevant? No.
Has anything to be found out about the architecture of the building? Yes.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the thing you saw palpable? or a shadow? a reflection?
Is something about the storeys of the building relevant? the stairs? the elevator? the roof? the floor? the doors?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 12:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the thing you saw palpable? No. or a shadow? No-ish, explore. a reflection? No.
Is something about the storeys of the building relevant? A bit general, let's say yope. the stairs? No. the elevator? Yes-ish. the roof? No. the floor? No. the doors? No.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 12:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is any light source relevant?
Was the thing you saw moving?
Did you see that something was not as usual? was anything missing?
Were you on the ground floor? 1st? 2nd? ...?
Did you have the intention to use the elevator? the stairs? relevant?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is any light source relevant? Yes.
Was the thing you saw moving? No.
Did you see that something was not as usual? Not really. was anything missing? No.
Were you on the ground floor? 1st? 2nd? ...? Fifth.
Did you have the intention to use the elevator? Yes. the stairs? No. relevant? Yes.

Good round of questions...
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you see the display of the elevator?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 7:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you see the display of the elevator? No.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 8:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did you call the elevator?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 8:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did you call the elevator? No.
Adryghi (Adryghi)
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Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 12:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You said that you didn't see the display of the elevator. Is it because that elevator doesn't have such a thing? because it was missing at that time? because you couldn't see at all? Because something was blocking your view? Because you couldn't see it from where you were standing?
Relevant that you didn't call the elevator even if you had the intention to use it? was it already at your floor?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 3:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You said that you didn't see the display of the elevator. Is it because that elevator doesn't have such a thing? No. because it was missing at that time? No. because you couldn't see at all? No. Because something was blocking your view? Yes. Because you couldn't see it from where you were standing? Yes.
Relevant that you didn't call the elevator even if you had the intention to use it? I called it eventually, but it is irrelevant for the puzzle. was it already at your floor? No.
Grainbeer (Grainbeer)
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Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 1:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm... something was blocking your view, but it was not an object or a living thing... can it be something related to the weather? Can you look outside through an open space or a window when you open the door from your flat? A lightning? Pouring rain? Reflection from the sun?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 5:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm... something was blocking your view, but it was not an object or a living thing... can it be something related to the weather? No, it is actually much simpler. The fact that I could not see the elevator, however, is not relevant to the puzzle. Can you look outside through an open space or a window when you open the door from your flat? No, and THIS is relevant. A lightning? Pouring rain? Reflection from the sun? These are irrelevant.
Grainbeer (Grainbeer)
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Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 7:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it totally dark in the entrance area outside your flat?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 8:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it totally dark in the entrance area outside your flat? YES!
Grainbeer (Grainbeer)
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Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 12:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK. What are the implications of this? Did you reckon nobody would go out of their flats because they were afraid of being mugged? Afraid of not finding their way out? Afraid of stumbling? Was it dark all over, or only in the area around your flat? Anything else we should explore?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 12:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK. What are the implications of this? Did you reckon nobody would go out of their flats because they were afraid of being mugged? Afraid of not finding their way out? Afraid of stumbling? No to all these. Was it dark all over, or only in the area around your flat? All the corridor was dark. Anything else we should explore? Yes.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 - 9:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The relevant light source: was it the only one? a lamp? a light bulb? behind the door of someone? a light switch? an electric device? something you had with you?
Is the elevator relevant at all? if you had planned to use the stairs would this have changed anything?
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Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 - 10:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The relevant light source: was it the only one? Yes. a lamp? a light bulb? This one, a few of them. behind the door of someone? No. a light switch? That's not a light source. Or do you mean something else? an electric device? something you had with you? No to rest.
Is the elevator relevant at all? Yes. if you had planned to use the stairs would this have changed anything? No.
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Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 - 11:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there a power outage?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 - 1:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there a power outage? No.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 - 2:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, a light switch can be a light source helping you to find it in the dark. But this doesn't seem to be relevant.
Has more to be found out about the light source? Where it was? Was it burning when you stepped out your apartment? did you switch it on? or off?
Is it relevant how far you had to walk to the elevator?
Did you realise that you wouldn't run into anyone: immediately when you stepped out your apartment? after closing your door? when you saw the light? when you were at the elevator?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Monday, March 24, 2008 - 2:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, a light switch can be a light source helping you to find it in the dark. I thought this was what you meant, but I did not want to give away anything. Yes, a luminous light switch IS relevant. But this doesn't seem to be relevant. Yes it is :-)

Has more to be found out about the light source? Yes. Where it was? No, not this.

Was it burning when you stepped out your apartment? Fortunately not.

did you switch it on? This one, but it's irrelevant. or off?

Is it relevant how far you had to walk to the elevator? No.

Did you realise that you wouldn't run into anyone: immediately when you stepped out your apartment? Yes. after closing your door? No. when you saw the light? There was no light. when you were at the elevator? No.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 10:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just to clarify:
When you stepped out of your appartment: the luminous light switch did not produce any light? because the lighting of the corridor was on? because something was broken?
Was it a light switch for the lighting of the corridor? Was the light working with an interval timer? relevant?
It was the luminous light switch that made you realise that you wouldn't run into anyone? and not the lighting of the corridor?
Is anything more about the light switch relevant?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 10:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just to clarify:
When you stepped out of your appartment: the luminous light switch did not produce any light? You're right, I have been a bit sloppy with my reply. It was not totally dark in the corridor, for two reasons: 1. because of the light coming from the switch, but most importantly 2. because of the light coming from my apartment. I must say I did not think of the tiny light switch as a light source. because the lighting of the corridor was on? No, the lighting in the corridor was off. because something was broken? No.
Was it a light switch for the lighting of the corridor? Yes. Was the light working with an interval timer? Yes! relevant? Very!
It was the luminous light switch that made you realise that you wouldn't run into anyone? No. and not the lighting of the corridor? It was the lighting, or rather the lack thereof.
Is anything more about the light switch relevant? No, you have got pretty much everything now. If no-one $poils within a day or two, I will.
Grainbeer (Grainbeer)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 11:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

All right. So because there is a timer for the switch, and the lights in the corridor were off, you knew that no one was on their way, at least to your floor, since they would already have pushed the light switch when they either entered the building, or left their apartment. Is this it?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 12:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

All right. So because there is a timer for the switch, and the lights in the corridor were off, you knew that no one was on their way, at least to your floor, since they would already have pushed the light switch when they either entered the building, or left their apartment. Is this it? Almost. There is no need to push the light switch at the ground floor because the hall is well illuminated. However, the light go on automatically when you use the elevator; if you push floor 6, the lights on floor 6 will be on when you exit the elevator. Since the lights were off, I knew no-one was on their way to my floor.

Thanks everyone for following this through!

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