| Author | Message | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2096 Registered: 8-2006 |
Joe wasn't recognized, and he was pleased, so he rewarded Frank. Joe was then insulted by accident. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 268 Registered: 5-2008 |
Joe(1) = Joe(2)? he(1) = he(2)? Joe(1) = he(1)? Joe(1) = he(2)? Frank = he(1)? Frank = he(2)? Joe was insulted as a direct result of Frank being rewarded? Frank was rewarded because Joe wasn't recognised? Would Joe have been rewarded if he were recognised? Did Joe deserve being rewarded? expect to be rewarded? Did Frank deserve being rewarded? more than Joe? less than Joe? as equally as Joe? expect to be rewarded? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2098 Registered: 8-2006 |
Joe(1) = Joe(2)? he(1) = he(2)? Joe(1) = he(1)? Joe(1) = he(2)? Yes to all to here Frank = he(1)? Frank = he(2)? Joe was insulted as a direct result of Frank being rewarded?Hard to answer... Yope-Yesish Frank was rewarded because Joe wasn't recognised? No Would Joe have been rewarded if he were recognised? Most likely Did Joe deserve being rewarded?Yope expect to be rewarded? No Did Frank deserve being rewarded?At the beginning more than Joe? less than Joe? as equally as Joe? expect to be rewarded?No | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 271 Registered: 5-2008 |
verbally insulted? insulted by the situation? insulted by an action? Did Frank insult Joe? someone else? Others involved? Did Frank hide/disguise Joe? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2100 Registered: 8-2006 |
verbally insulted?Yes insulted by the situation? insulted by an action? Did Frank insult Joe?Yes someone else? Others involved? No Did Frank hide/disguise Joe?No By the way your adventure is EXTREMELY hard! | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 273 Registered: 5-2008 |
Joe wasn't recognised so Joe was pleased? Joe wasn't recognised and happened also to be pleased? Because Joe wasn't recognised he rewarded Frank? Because Joe was pleased he rewarded Frank? Frank insulted Joe by accident? as the result of something he said? because he was rewarded? Was what Frank said meant to be positive? neutral? Is there double meaning to what Frank had said? Joe misunderstood what Frank had said? Joe understood what Frank had said? but was insulted because Frank had chosen to say it? Did Frank offend Joe? by thanking him? By the way your adventure is EXTREMELY hard! You're actually doing very well! (: if you feel you truely can not think of a next step then you're welcome to ask for a hint... | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2102 Registered: 8-2006 |
Joe wasn't recognised so Joe was pleased? Yope, he was actually pleased by something caused by the unrecognition Joe wasn't recognised and happened also to be pleased? Yes-ish Because Joe wasn't recognised he rewarded Frank? No Because Joe was pleased he rewarded Frank? Yes Frank insulted Joe by accidentYes as the result of something he said?Which he? because he was rewarded?Yes Was what Frank said meant to be positive?Yes-ish neutral? Is there double meaning to what Frank had said?No Joe misunderstood what Frank had said? No Joe understood what Frank had said?Yes but was insulted because Frank had chosen to say it? Yes Did Frank offend Joe?Yes by thanking him? Yes-ish By the way your adventure is EXTREMELY hard! You're actually doing very well! (: if you feel you truely can not think of a next step then you're welcome to ask for a hint... I'm not that stuck, but I'm getting close... | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 284 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was Joe in disguise at the time? Was he someone important incognito? Whom Frank insulted in passing during their conversation? (I'm thinking here of the scene in Henry V where Hal goes out among his troops in disguise, and listens to them talk among themselves about how they think the king is a bit of a jerk.) | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2103 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was Joe in disguise at the time?No Was he someone important incognito?No Whom Frank insulted in passing during their conversation? Yes (I'm thinking here of the scene in Henry V where Hal goes out among his troops in disguise, and listens to them talk among themselves about how they think the king is a bit of a jerk.)Not this, but that would be funny... | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 275 Registered: 5-2008 |
Frank insulted Joe by accidentYes as the result of something he said?Which he? Frank because he was rewarded?Yes So Frank had a part to play in Joe's being pleased? for which Joe rewarded him? Did Frank have a part in Joe's unrecognition? Would it help to learn how Frank was rewarded? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2104 Registered: 8-2006 |
So Frank had a part to play in Joe's being pleased?Yes for which Joe rewarded him? Yes-ish Did Frank have a part in Joe's unrecognition?He was the one who didn't recognize him lol Would it help to learn how Frank was rewarded?Yes-ish | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 280 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did Frank accept the reward? return it? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2107 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did Frank accept the reward?Yes return it? | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 141 Registered: 6-2008 |
Is "recognized" here used in the sense of identifying a person/remembering their name? or in the sense of giving a person credit for an achievement? (I don't believe this has been clarified) | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2119 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is "recognized" here used in the sense of identifying a person/remembering their name?This or in the sense of giving a person credit for an achievement? (I don't believe this has been clarified)It hasn't | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 352 Registered: 5-2008 |
face wasn't recognised? name wasn't recognised? | ||
| Bigpurple (Bigpurple)
New member Username: Bigpurple Post Number: 33 Registered: 8-2008 |
Was the reward tangible? a warm, fuzzy feeling? money? a purple monkey? ... ok, not the monkey thing...(: | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2122 Registered: 8-2006 |
face wasn't recognised? Yes name wasn't recognised? Was the reward tangible? a warm, fuzzy feeling? money? a purple monkey? ... ok, not the monkey thing...(:The monkey! Just remove the k! | ||
| Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
New member Username: Zephyr14 Post Number: 189 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was it Frank's job to change Joe's face/appearance? ie, was Frank a plastic surgeon? Is the insult in reference to his old appearance? his new appearance? his intelligence? any other trait? Is Joe a criminal? Is Frank a criminal? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2146 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was it Frank's job to change Joe's face/appearance? ie, was Frank a plastic surgeon? Neither Is the insult in reference to his old appearance?No his new appearance? his intelligence? any other trait? You are going off... the other guesses were closer Is Joe a criminal?Much the opposite Is Frank a criminal?No | ||
| Vene (Vene)
New member Username: Vene Post Number: 8 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was Joe an undercover detective? Did Frank know him? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2157 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was Joe an undercover detective?No Did Frank know him?Depends on the type of "know". If you mean personally, no, but if you mean heard of him, yes. Hint: Frank's job is relevant | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 863 Registered: 9-2003 |
Is Joe royalty? Was Frank being knighted? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2170 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is Joe royalty? Was Frank being knighted?Neither. Welcome back! | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 868 Registered: 9-2003 |
Hmmm...let me try to recap this, and you tell me if I understood what's been discovered so far: Joe, for reasons yet to be discovered, decides to go incognito. He runs into Frank, and the latter does not recognize the former. Joe is pleased with this fact. For reasons still to be determined, Joe decides to reward Frank. Frank accepts the gift, and while accepting it, makes a remark that insults Joe. Did I get that right? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2173 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hmmm...let me try to recap this, and you tell me if I understood what's been discovered so far: Joe, for reasons yet to be discovered, decides to go incognito.NO! He runs into Frank, and the latter does not recognize the former.Yes Joe is pleased with this fact. Not really... I may have been misleading. He was pleased at the comment Frank made when Frank didn't recognize Joe For reasons still to be determined, Joe decides to reward Frank.Yes Frank accepts the gift, and while accepting it, makes a remark that insults Joe. Yes Did I get that right?Most of it :-) | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 872 Registered: 9-2003 |
Hmmm...so Joe is NOT going incognito? Or have we already uncovered the reasons why he is going incognito? If Frank had recognized Joe, would Joe still have given Frank his reward? If Frank for some miraculous reason recognize Joe right AFTER he had received his gift, would Frank still have made the remark that insulted Joe? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2175 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hmmm...so Joe is NOT going incognito?Correct Or have we already uncovered the reasons why he is going incognito? If Frank had recognized Joe, would Joe still have given Frank his reward? No If Frank for some miraculous reason recognize Joe right AFTER he had received his gift, would Frank still have made the remark that insulted Joe?No Good questions! | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 878 Registered: 9-2003 |
Is Joe in position of authority over Frank? A CEO of a company that employs Frank? Did Frank say something to the effect that Joe would never have been so generous to give him a reward, not knowing that he was actually addressing Joe? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2176 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is Joe in position of authority over Frank?Yope A CEO of a company that employs Frank? No Did Frank say something to the effect that Joe would never have been so generous to give him a reward, not knowing that he was actually addressing Joe?No | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 885 Registered: 9-2003 |
Does Joe and Frank work for the same company/organization? Relevant? Is there anyone else besides Joe or Frank that's directly or indirectly related to this puzzle? If yes, how many? [insert LTPF list of integers here] | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2178 Registered: 8-2006 |
Does Joe and Frank work for the same company/organization?No Relevant? A bit Is there anyone else besides Joe or Frank that's directly or indirectly related to this puzzle?No If yes, how many? [insert LTPF list of integers here] | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 893 Registered: 9-2003 |
Is Frank's job relevant to this puzzle? Is Joe well-known by name to the general public? Is he a politician? A police officer? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 416 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are their professions relevant? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2180 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is Frank's job relevant to this puzzle? Yes Is Joe well-known by name to the general public?Yes-ish Is he a politician?Yes! A police officer? Are their professions relevant?Yes | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 902 Registered: 9-2003 |
Politician, eh? But I thought you said earlier that Joe wasn't a criminal...I kid, I kid. =P Can Frank's profession be considered blue-collared? White-collared? If blue-collared, was he a factory worker in a production line? | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 72 Registered: 1-2008 |
Is Frank a security guard? | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 76 Registered: 1-2008 |
Sorry, it was early this morning...I mean is Frank Joe's personal security? Or is Frank a public servant? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2182 Registered: 8-2006 |
Politician, eh? But I thought you said earlier that Joe wasn't a criminal...I kid, I kid. =P Very true :P Can Frank's profession be considered blue-collared? White-collared? If blue-collared, was he a factory worker in a production line?No idea about collars, but, not a factory worker Is Frank a security guard?No, but a public servant in some capacity | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 913 Registered: 9-2003 |
Is Frank a civil servant? Or is "public servant in some capacity" specific enough for the purposes of this puzzle? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2184 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is Frank a civil servant?No Or is "public servant in some capacity" specific enough for the purposes of this puzzle?Oops. Blooper. He is NOT a public servant... now where's the job list ;-) | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 918 Registered: 9-2003 |
Just to clarify, then: Is Frank employed at all by the government in any capacity? Is he, by chance, a police officer? Is Frank a professional? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2185 Registered: 8-2006 |
Just to clarify, then: Is Frank employed at all by the government in any capacity?No Is he, by chance, a police officer?No Is Frank a professional?No | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 17 Registered: 10-2008 |
Joe is a politician. Does he work for local, state, federal govt? Is he part of a board? Senate? Parliament? House of Representatives? Does this have anything to do with new legislation? a court ruling? a scandal? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2189 Registered: 8-2006 |
Joe is a politician. Does he work for local, state, federal govt?Local, but completely irrelevant Is he part of a board? Senate? Parliament? House of Representatives? Does this have anything to do with new legislation? a court ruling? a scandal?None of these | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 42 Registered: 10-2008 |
I'm a little confused because on 10/10 you said yes to their professions being relevant, but then on 10/18 you said that Frank is not a professional, thus being without a profession. Should we take this to mean that he has some vocation which society as a whole may not recognize as a profession? Without trying to offend anyone, perhaps a lawyer or doctor or architect would be considered a professional whilst a janitor, garbage man, or mall security guard may not? I'm really not sure which direction to take this... | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2191 Registered: 8-2006 |
I'm a little confused because on 10/10 you said yes to their professions being relevant, but then on 10/18 you said that Frank is not a professional, thus being without a profession.I think I meant he didn't need a college degree for the job like for example psychology Should we take this to mean that he has some vocation which society as a whole may not recognize as a profession? Without trying to offend anyone, perhaps a lawyer or doctor or architect would be considered a professional whilst a janitor, garbage man, or mall security guard may not?Yes I'm really not sure which direction to take this...Sorry, I've been confusing.. | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 53 Registered: 10-2008 |
Was he a janitor? garbage man? security guard? Would he be seen as working at the bottom of a totem pole (i.e. one of the above, or other similar) for a large corporation? would he be seen as working for a small business where a degree is not necessary but not at the bottom of the totem pole (like a tow truck driver)? would he be seen as an entrepreneur who did not require a degree? Oh, and btw, I've got a puzzle up that I'd love to see you in crazypalpig! =) | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2192 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was he a janitor? garbage man? security guard?None Would he be seen as working at the bottom of a totem pole (i.e. one of the above, or other similar) for a large corporationno? would he be seen as working for a small business where a degree is not necessary but not at the bottom of the totem pole (like a tow truck driver)?Closer would he be seen as an entrepreneur who did not require a degree? I don't think so Oh, and btw, I've got a puzzle up that I'd love to see you in crazypalpig! =)I'll check it out:-) | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 67 Registered: 10-2008 |
Is his vocation crucial to society's survival (like civil engineers would be, or water treatment plant worker), superfluous/aesthetic (like a basket weaver, painter, author), some other category? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2195 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is his vocation crucial to society's survival (like civil engineers would be, or water treatment plant worker)No, superfluous/aesthetic (like a basket weaver, painter, author)Superfluous, some other category?Not sure about any other catergory | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 73 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hmm, so Frank has a superfluous job. Like a taxi cab driver? a bus driver? Does he drive anything for his vocation? fix something? a guide of some type (tour or otherwise)? thespian? dog walker? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2199 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hmm, so Frank has a superfluous job. Like a taxi cab driver?YES!! a bus driver? Does he drive anything for his vocation? fix something? a guide of some type (tour or otherwise)? thespian? dog walker? | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 94 Registered: 10-2008 |
Frank is a taxi cab driver who happens to pick up Joe who is a politician. Joe rewards Frank by tipping him. Somewhere along the way something was brought up that caused Frank to express an opinion about a piece of legislation that Joe was involved in, or just a policy that Joe holds. Frank expresses disapproval and maybe even puts Joe down, not knowing it is the very many to whom he is speaking. Something like that? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2202 Registered: 8-2006 |
Frank is a taxi cab driver who happens to pick up Joe who is a politician.Yes, but something happens first Joe rewards Frank by tipping him.Correct Somewhere along the way something was brought up that caused Frank to express an opinion about a piece of legislation that Joe was involved in, or just a policy that Joe holds.No Frank expresses disapproval and maybe even puts Joe down, not knowing it is the very many to whom he is speaking. No Something like that?Getting MUCH warmer! | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 106 Registered: 10-2008 |
Is the time of day relevant? Political parties? Does Frank actually insult Joe directly by saying something bad about him (just not knowing it's him)? Something that happens before Frank picks up Joe: Joe calls the taxi company for a pick up? Joe hails Frank from the street? Is this something that only happens to one of the two of them a the time? Joe? Frank? Is the thing that happens positive? negative? neutral? Did this event cause Joe to get the taxi? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2204 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is the time of day relevant?Yope Political parties? Does Frank actually insult Joe directly by saying something bad about him (just not knowing it's him)? Yes! Something that happens before Frank picks up Joe: Joe calls the taxi company for a pick up? Joe hails Frank from the street? Yes and... Is this something that only happens to one of the two of them a the time? Joe? Frank? No Is the thing that happens positive? negative? neutral? Did this event cause Joe to get the taxi? | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 109 Registered: 10-2008 |
Is the insult related to Joe's profession in any way? Something about him personally? His attire? His demeanor? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2205 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is the insult related to Joe's profession in any way?Yes Something about him personally?Yes His attire? His demeanor? | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 124 Registered: 10-2008 |
I'm not really sure what direction you need me to elaborate in, or where my assessment is incorrect or incomplete. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2209 Registered: 8-2006 |
I'm not really sure what direction you need me to elaborate in, or where my assessment is incorrect or incomplete.First, find why he was happy although he wasn't identified, Then find what the insult was (or close to it) | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 137 Registered: 10-2008 |
was Joe in a bad part of town? in a place he would hope not to be seen? for personal reasons? political? Did Frank say something about politicians being sleazy or something equivalent...maybe as he was picking Joe up from the red light district? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2210 Registered: 8-2006 |
was Joe in a bad part of town?No in a place he would hope not to be seen? for personal reasons? political? Did Frank say something about politicians being sleazy or something equivalentGetting closer...maybe as he was picking Joe up from the red light district? | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 139 Registered: 10-2008 |
about politicians laundering money? lying? inappropriate extramarital affairs? being corrupt? is the location that he is being picked up at relevant? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2212 Registered: 8-2006 |
about politicians laundering money? lying? inappropriate extramarital affairs? being corrupt? None... It wasn't about politicians is the location that he is being picked up at relevant?No but... | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 160 Registered: 10-2008 |
was his destination relevant? time of day? previously you said I was getting closer with it being about sleazy politicians, but now you have just said it wasn't about politicians. I am a little confused by that. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2213 Registered: 8-2006 |
was his destination relevant?YES! time of day? Yes-ish previously you said I was getting closer with it being about sleazy politicians, but now you have just said it wasn't about politicians. I am a little confused by that.Not sure how to answer this, just consider the insult to be personally against him. The exact phrasing is irrelevant | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 161 Registered: 10-2008 |
was he going home? to the office? to make an appearance somewhere? to be on TV? to a meal? to visit a friend? a mistress? to church? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2214 Registered: 8-2006 |
was he going home? to the office? to make an appearance somewhere? to be on TV?Actually on radio, but just had to be on air somewhere to a meal? to visit a friend? a mistress? to church? | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 172 Registered: 10-2008 |
so we have a politician going to be on the radio... hails a cab... cabbie doesn't recognize him... he is happy about this... tips the cabbie... cabbie says something about him which wasn't meant to be offensive but is. Maybe something about how he heard another (or that very) politician on a radio show and then expressed disapproval about it? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2219 Registered: 8-2006 |
so we have a politician going to be on the radio... hails a cab... cabbie doesn't recognize him... he is happy about this... tips the cabbie... cabbie says something about him which wasn't meant to be offensive but is. It was not meant to be, but he still wasn't recognized... Maybe something about how he heard another (or that very) politician on a radio show and then expressed disapproval about it?Nope... HINT: The cabbie was reluctant to pick him up | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 158 Registered: 1-2008 |
Was it race-related? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2221 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was it race-related?No | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 179 Registered: 10-2008 |
did the cabbie think he would be robbed? that the customer couldn't pay the fare? that he was going to preach religion to him and he didn't want to hear it? that he would smell bad? that he had just left a hole-in-the-wall mexian restaurant and was going to be gaseous all up in his ride? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2222 Registered: 8-2006 |
did the cabbie think he would be robbed? that the customer couldn't pay the fare? that he was going to preach religion to him and he didn't want to hear it? that he would smell bad? that he had just left a hole-in-the-wall mexian restaurant and was going to be gaseous all up in his ride?Haha no... | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 200 Registered: 10-2008 |
was the politician coming from the movies? a bar? a restaurant? an office? the theater? shopping? home? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2223 Registered: 8-2006 |
was the politician coming from the movies? a bar? a restaurant? an office? the theater? shopping? home?Irrelevant | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 202 Registered: 10-2008 |
ooops, i forgot that the pickup location was irr. was he reluctant to pick him up because of an essential property that he possessed? because of an accidental property that he possessed? Is it a property universal? A property particular?(These are Aristotelian definitions, for more information on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_(philosophy) A quick overview: It is essential and particular that he is him. It is essential and universal that he is a human. It is accidental universal that he has brown hair (we'll say). It is accidental particular that he has that particular shade of brown hair. If you don't know where the reason fits in that grid just say so and I'll try a different line of questioning. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2227 Registered: 8-2006 |
ooops, i forgot that the pickup location was irr. was he reluctant to pick him up because of an essential property that he possessed? because of an accidental property that he possessed? Is it a property universal? A property particular?(These are Aristotelian definitions, for more information on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_(philosophy) A quick overview: It is essential and particular that he is him. It is essential and universal that he is a human. It is accidental universal that he has brown hair (we'll say). It is accidental particular that he has that particular shade of brown hair. If you don't know where the reason fits in that grid just say so and I'll try a different line of questioning.I don't know how to answer the ones about the property. The others are irrelevant Second hint: The cabbie wouldn't have wanted to pick anyone up | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 206 Registered: 10-2008 |
haha, i didn't know I was working off a FA! So the problem is with the cabbie, not the politician. Did the cabbie not want to pick anyone up because he was in a hurry? because he was lazy? because he was getting off work? because he was hungry? because he was doing something illegal? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2229 Registered: 8-2006 |
haha, i didn't know I was working off a FA! So the problem is with the cabbie, not the politician. Did the cabbie not want to pick anyone up because he was in a hurry?YES! because he was lazy? because he was getting off work?Yope because he was hungry? because he was doing something illegal? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1144 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is this based on a story by O. Henry? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2231 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is this based on a story by O. Henry?No idea | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 500 Registered: 5-2003 |
While thanking the pol for his tip (given because the cabbie got him to his destination so quickly due to being in a hurry of his own?) the cabbie inadvertently insulted the politician? Like, "Wow, good thing you're not Senator Joe, that old skinflint. Judging from his policies he wouldn't have given me a dime." | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2232 Registered: 8-2006 |
While thanking the pol for his tip (given because the cabbie got him to his destination so quickly due to being in a hurry of his own?) the cabbie inadvertently insulted the politician? Yes, except given before they arrived Like, "Wow, good thing you're not Senator Joe, that old skinflint. Judging from his policies he wouldn't have given me a dime."Not in this way though | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1270 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is it relevant that the title has "a" instead of "an"? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2234 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is it relevant that the title has "a" instead of "an"?No. Oops. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1299 Registered: 12-2004 |
I was lost by since the first question was asked. Can I request a quick recap, or has that been done recently? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2236 Registered: 8-2006 |
I was lost by since the first question was asked. Can I request a quick recap, or has that been done recently?Recap coming... *****************RECAP******************* So up to now, Joe hails a cabbie and for an unknown reason Frank doesn't want to give Joe a ride. Joe rewards him and was then promptly insulted. Joe is a politician, and in the beginning Frank did not recognize Joe. Frank would not have wanted to pick up anybody. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1323 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did this all occur within 24 hours? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2237 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did this all occur within 24 hours?Say it occurred in around... 2 minutes | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 211 Registered: 10-2008 |
Did Joe have any policy involving a tax or something else that is going to cost Frank money and Frank sarcastically remarks that he will now be able to pay the new tax? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2239 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did Joe have any policy involving a tax or something else that is going to cost Frank money and Frank sarcastically remarks that he will now be able to pay the new tax?No policies involved. | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 214 Registered: 10-2008 |
Looking back at your recap...I thought the reason he didn't want to give him a ride was because he was in a hurry. Do we need to identify why he was in a hurry? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2241 Registered: 8-2006 |
Looking back at your recap...I thought the reason he didn't want to give him a ride was because he was in a hurry. Do we need to identify why he was in a hurry?Yes! | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 220 Registered: 10-2008 |
AHA! I thought, "Because he was in a hurry" was a sufficient reason...SO, let's move it along! Was he in a hurry due to personal reasons? professional? political? does he have a mistress? dum-duh-dum! (that's my best scandalous revelation music) | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2242 Registered: 8-2006 |
AHA! I thought, "Because he was in a hurry" was a sufficient reason...SO, let's move it along! Was he in a hurry due to personal reasons?No professional?No political?Yes-ish does he have a mistress? dum-duh-dum! (that's my best scandalous revelation music)LoL, no. He might, but irrelevant Cues "Jaws" music | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1386 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is he on Cash Cab, a TV game show that takes place right here in my taxi? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2243 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is he on Cash Cab, a TV game show that takes place right here in my taxi?No | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 235 Registered: 10-2008 |
I love cash cab when I have 10 minutes to kill =) yesish to political reasons. public politics? personal politics? was he trying to go vote? help others? help himself? testify? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2244 Registered: 8-2006 |
I love cash cab when I have 10 minutes to kill =) yesish to political reasons. public politics? personal politics? was he trying to go vote? help others? help himself? testify?Who, Frank? Kinda public politics, and helping himself (meaning not part of his job to do it) | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 241 Registered: 10-2008 |
sorry, should have been more clear. yes, my questions now pertain to frank. is his family involved? picking up dry cleaning for his mother-in-law? =) | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2245 Registered: 8-2006 |
sorry, should have been more clear. yes, my questions now pertain to frank. is his family involved? picking up dry cleaning for his mother-in-law? =)No. But concentrate on why Frank might have pleased Joe by not recognizing him. In the recap, I forgot to mention that Joe is to go onto the radio. | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 266 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hurm...I would only be pleased that someone didn't recognize me if I were ashamed or sick of the lime light. I feel like I'm missing something obvious. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2246 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hurm...I would only be pleased that someone didn't recognize me if I were ashamed or sick of the lime light. I feel like I'm missing something obvious.Well, the reason Joe was pleased was the same reason Frank didn't want to pick him up. You go from there :-) | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 281 Registered: 10-2008 |
Was frank deaf? any other disability relevant? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2249 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was frank deaf? any other disability relevant?No disabilities | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 302 Registered: 10-2008 |
sorry i have been absent so long, I was taking a break for finals and the like! So, lets get this going again... So, Frank doesn't want to pick Joe up. This has nothing to do with where Joe is, or really anything dealing with Joe at all. The reason Frank doesn't want to pick up Joe deals exclusively with something going on in Frank's personal life and dealing with public politics, but not to go vote. The personal reason that Frank had pleased Joe, but then offended him. Was Frank going to serve on a jury? Pick up voters to take them to their polling place? Go to a public rally? Join a march? Register for something? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2250 Registered: 8-2006 |
sorry i have been absent so long, I was taking a break for finals and the like! So, lets get this going again... So, Frank doesn't want to pick Joe up. This has nothing to do with where Joe is, or really anything dealing with Joe at all. The reason Frank doesn't want to pick up Joe deals exclusively with something going on in Frank's personal life and dealing with public politics, but not to go vote. The personal reason that Frank had pleased Joe, but then offended him. Correct up to offended him. It was not the personal reason that offended him. Was Frank going to serve on a jury? Pick up voters to take them to their polling place? Go to a public rally? Join a march? Register for something?None. Actually, you have all the info from previous posts, just put it together. Check my 12/3 post | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 307 Registered: 10-2008 |
was the personal reason something visible to Joe? Did Frank choose to share the personal reason with Joe? Was the reason something temporary about Frank? Something permanent? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2251 Registered: 8-2006 |
was the personal reason something visible to Joe? Did Frank choose to share the personal reason with Joe?Yes Was the reason something temporary about Frank?Yes Something permanent? Now that I think about it, personal might not be the best word. Just think of it as a not-part-of-job reason. | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 315 Registered: 10-2008 |
I could use a fresh set of eyes on this. | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2253 Registered: 8-2006 |
I could use a fresh set of eyes on this. Would you like a refreshed recap? Oh well, you have no choice in that matter;) Joe wasn't recognized, and he was pleased, so he rewarded Frank. Joe was then insulted by accident Joe is a politician, and is about to go on the TV/radio. Frank, a cabbie, wouldn't pick Joe up for the same reason Joe was pleased. After Joe gave Frank extra money before the cab started, Frank said something that accidentally insulted him. | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 320 Registered: 10-2008 |
Did Frank wish Joe a merry Christmas, but knew Joe was Jewish? Did Frank pretend not to recognize Joe but then tell him to "break a leg" or something equivalent - indicating that he had lied to Joe previously? Anything like these? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2254 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did Frank wish Joe a merry Christmas, but knew Joe was Jewish? no religion Did Frank pretend not to recognize JoeNo but then tell him to "break a leg" or something equivalent - indicating that he had lied to Joe previously? Yes-ish Anything like these?Try focusing on why it is relevant that Joe is to go on the air | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 327 Registered: 10-2008 |
is he going on for altruistic reasons? to support a cause? for political reasons? to be a guest on a show? to be a dj? to be on NPR? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2255 Registered: 8-2006 |
s he going on for altruistic reasons? to support a cause? for political reasons? to be a guest on a show? to be a dj? to be on NPR?Political reasons, and to support a cause-ish | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 89 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is there to be a debate on the radio between competing political candidates? Is Frank running against Joe in an upcoming election? Therefore, Frank is in a hurry to get to the radio station as well? Or a twist on the above story: Is Frank the leader of an "action group" and has to get to the radio station in order to protest Joe's support of the opposing views? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2256 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is there to be a debate on the radio between competing political candidates? Could be, could also just be a speech Is Frank running against Joe in an upcoming election?No Therefore, Frank is in a hurry to get to the radio station as well? Or a twist on the above story: Is Frank the leader of an "action group" and has to get to the radio station in order to protest Joe's support of the opposing views?Nope | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 95 Registered: 9-2008 |
1. Frank didn't want a new passenger due to being in a hurry for "Something" - and - Joe was feeling pleased because of that same "Something", right? 2. But, Joe was also pleased about not being recognized, right? Fine point to clarify: Was Joe pleased about 2 things? The first was Frank's reason to hurry and the other because he was anonymous? Was Joe feeling pleased BEFORE meeting Frank? Or after finding out that Frank was in a hurry due to that mysterious "Something"? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2257 Registered: 8-2006 |
1. Frank didn't want a new passenger due to being in a hurry for "Something" - and - Joe was feeling pleased because of that same "Something", right? Correct 2. But, Joe was also pleased about not being recognized, right? I never said that I think. No Fine point to clarify: Was Joe pleased about 2 things?No The first was Frank's reason to hurry and the other because he was anonymous? Just Frank's reason Was Joe feeling pleased BEFORE meeting Frank?Most likely that he managed to hail a cab Or after finding out that Frank was in a hurry due to that mysterious "Something"?Yes | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 338 Registered: 10-2008 |
Oh, he wasn't pleased that he wasn't recognized? I was going off that the whole time as well... Okie doke. Happy New Year =) Was Frank in a hurry because he was going to the hospital? school? government agency? home? different job? church? the store? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2258 Registered: 8-2006 |
Oh, he wasn't pleased that he wasn't recognized? I was going off that the whole time as well...Notice the puzzle statement said "and" he was pleased "so" he rewarded Frank :-) Okie doke. Happy New Year =) You too! only 363 more days until 2010 :P Was Frank in a hurry because he was going to the hospital? school? government agency? home?This one different job? church? the store? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 96 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was Frank in a hurry to get home so that he could listen to the radio program? Was Frank's insult about Joe's accent or manner of speech? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2259 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was Frank in a hurry to get home so that he could listen to the radio program? YES Was Frank's insult about Joe's accent or manner of speech?Neither | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 107 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was Frank's insult about: the money Joe gave him? the topic of the upcoming radio show? or the nature of politics/politicians? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2260 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was Frank's insult about: the money Joe gave him? the topic of the upcoming radio show? or the nature of politics/politicians?None of these. But Frank did accept the reward... and what happened next? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 115 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did Frank insult Joe by what he DID next - instead of what he said? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2261 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did Frank insult Joe by what he DID next - instead of what he said?It's what he said... but under what circumstances would Frank take advance money? | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 358 Registered: 10-2008 |
So, we find out that Frank is in a hurry to go home and listen to the radio show that Joe is to be a guest of. This pleases Joe. Joe tips Frank. Frank says, "blah-de-blah-da" and now Joe is insulted. Frank did not intend to insult Joe. Is this correct? Why did the radio in the car not work? Did Joe ask Frank to wait outside for him? Do you know "Frank" or "Joe" irl? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2263 Registered: 8-2006 |
So, we find out that Frank is in a hurry to go home and listen to the radio show that Joe is to be a guest of. This pleases Joe. Joe tips Frank. Frank says, "blah-de-blah-da" and now Joe is insulted. Frank did not intend to insult Joe. Is this correct? This is correct. It's actually fore-tipping if that is a word... Why did the radio in the car not work? And I'm supposed to know this? May have been before the car radio was invented :-) Did Joe ask Frank to wait outside for him? No Do you know "Frank" or "Joe" irl?Irrel | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 363 Registered: 10-2008 |
could the fore-tipping be seen as a bribe? morally repugnant in any way? was it personally offensive, or more generally so? or wait, it may go the other way...*sigh* | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2267 Registered: 8-2006 |
could the fore-tipping be seen as a bribe?Yes-ish. But the comment was not about bribes morally repugnant in any way?b{More as a "I'm late, here, take this, just go"} was it personally offensive, or more generally so? or wait, it may go the other way...*sigh*Neither | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 378 Registered: 10-2008 |
Did Joe tip Frank to get rid of him? keep him around? provoke an action? inhibit an action (such as, "Don't tell anyone you saw me.")? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2279 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did Joe tip Frank to get rid of him? keep him around? provoke an action? inhibit an action (such as, "Don't tell anyone you saw me.")?No, and since you've gotten this far, I'll tell you that Frank's comment was about the reason he didn't want to pick anyone up (He was going home to listen to the radio broadcast) | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 381 Registered: 10-2008 |
Did Frank make the show out to be a farce of some sort? Or maybe he listened to it because of the low caliber of guests that they bring on the show? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2281 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did Frank make the show out to be a farce of some sort? Or maybe he listened to it because of the low caliber of guests that they bring on the show?No... but since Frank is about to take Joe, Frank has to miss the program and... | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 168 Registered: 9-2008 |
Hm-m-m...did Frank say that the money more than compensated him for having to miss the radio program - thereby devaluing Joe and his radio show? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2282 Registered: 8-2006 |
Hm-m-m...did Frank say that the money more than compensated him for having to miss the radio program - thereby devaluing Joe and his radio show?Yes, this is very close so... ********** SPOILER ************* Joe, a politician, needs to get to the radio station to make a speech or statement. He hails down Frank, a taxi driver. Frank tells Joe that he doesn't want to pick him up because he wants to go home to listen to Joe's speech, not realizing that Joe was in front of him. Joe is very pleased about Frank's reason, and gives him a 5$ advance. Frank grinned and said, "Hop in. To hell with the governor". Oops. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 174 Registered: 9-2008 |
Ha! Good job! This puzzle has had quite a long and pleasant life. Thank you for sticking with us while we slowly plodded along. | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 384 Registered: 10-2008 |
Indeed, I was plugging away for some time...grats on the kill Kaygee! Fun puzzle Crazypalpig, albeit sometimes frustrating, lol. =) |
