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Now THAT's a good job!
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Is "good job" a description of an occupation, or a compliment on work done? If the former, is the occupation relevant? People relevant? If so, 1? 2? 3? 4? 5-10? 11-100? more?

And lastly, is the Borg relevant, or did it just make a nice title? (:
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Is "good job" a description of an occupation, or a compliment on work done? The latter. If the former, is the occupation relevant? N/A People relevant? Slightly. If so, 1? This one. 2? 3? 4? 5-10? 11-100? more?

And lastly, is the Borg relevant, Of course not (: or did it just make a nice title? (: The title is cryptically relevant, but I think you will not be able to draw much benefit from it at this phase.
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Is there anything relevant about the person or persons doing this job that was well done? Was it a once off? or is it done regularly?
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Is there anything relevant about the person or persons doing this job that was well done? FA. Was it a once off? Yes. or is it done regularly? No.
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Was it a good job because this person performed better than expected?
because he/she took more benefit from the work than expected?
because you benefitted from it?
were you this person?
is it a famous person?
a current sports event relevant?

or is "good job" ironically?
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Was it a good job because this person performed better than expected? FA. Explore.
because he/she took more benefit from the work than expected? Yes-ish.
because you benefitted from it?
were you this person?
is it a famous person?
a current sports event relevant? No to rest.

or is "good job" ironically? Agh. Tough one. Yope.
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There was a job to be done?
It was done? by one person? more than one person?
'Afterwards' the job no longer required further work?

Is "good job" intended with double meaning?
Was a meaning of "good job" ironic? sarcastic?
Was "good job" actually spoken? thought?
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There was a job to be done? Yes-ish.
It was done? Yes. by one person? No. more than one person? Yope.
'Afterwards' the job no longer required further work? It didn't.

Is "good job" intended with double meaning? No.
Was a meaning of "good job" ironic? sarcastic? No to both. I really think it was a good job, but...
Was "good job" actually spoken? thought? Thought. It is my comment about the event.
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Where you present at the completion of the event?
When the event was complete did you know immediately?

There is a single location at which this job was performed? Have you ever attended that location personally?

Was the work a solution to a problem that didn't exactly need fixing but sooner or later would or could be improved?

Any living non-human thing(s) involved?
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Where you present at the completion of the event? No.
When the event was complete did you know immediately? Irrelevant.

There is a single location at which this job was performed? Yope. Have you ever attended that location personally? No.

Was the work a solution to a problem that didn't exactly need fixing but sooner or later would or could be improved? Yope, but it's on the right track.

Any living non-human thing(s) involved? No.
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any machine involved? robot? computer?
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any machine involved? Yes. robot? computer? This one.
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was a specific piece of software involved? something well known? or something specific for the situation? any number calculation involved?

was it maybe some sort of war game situ? or just someone having the computer run through different situations? possibilities?
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was a specific piece of software involved? Yes. something well known? Yes... or something specific for the situation? ...but this too. any number calculation involved? No.

was it maybe some sort of war game situ? No. or just someone having the computer run through different situations? possibilities? No to both.
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You said the Borg wasn't relevant, but is Star Trek? ;)

Seriously now... A computer like we're using now? Does this have anything to do with the softwares designers? If so, Microsoft? Is the software used for making spreadsheets, or something like that?
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You said the Borg wasn't relevant, but is Star Trek? ;) No (:

Seriously now... A computer like we're using now? Yes. Does this have anything to do with the softwares designers? Yes. If so, Microsoft? Spot on. That's where the Borg come in. Is the software used for making spreadsheets, or something like that? No.
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What do microsoft and the Borg have in common?

OK, so is the software an application? A document sorta thingy? Just software that makes your computer faster? Is the exact type of software even relevant??
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What do microsoft and the Borg have in common? You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

OK, so is the software an application? No. A document sorta thingy? No. Just software that makes your computer faster? I would say the opposite, but it's my opinion. Is the exact type of software even relevant?? Yes.
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is it a microsoft operating system? internet explorer?
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is it a microsoft operating system? Yep. internet explorer? Thus, no.
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Windows 1.0? 2.0? /286? 3.0? 3.1x? 95? 98? ME? NT 3.1? NT 3.5? NT 3.51? NT 4? 2000? XP? Vista? Vienna?

/i{I didn't realize there were so many versions of Windows...}
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I still think Macs are way better... You don't have to take the whole thing apart just to upgrade it
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Travis:
Windows 1.0? 2.0? /286? 3.0? 3.1x? 95? 98? ME? NT 3.1? NT 3.5? NT 3.51? NT 4? 2000? XP? Vista? Vienna? I think any version from Windows 98 onwards would fit the bill.

I didn't realize there were so many versions of Windows... ...and I think you have left out the whole "Windows Server" family...
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Was it said sarcastically? Are you saying that all the Windows 98 onward are "good jobs"? But only compared with the previous operating systems?
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Was it said sarcastically? No, but... Are you saying that all the Windows 98 onward are "good jobs"? No. But only compared with the previous operating systems? No.
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Are any competitors of Microsoft relevant? Apple? Were you criticizing or complimenting the Windows 98+ system?
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Are any competitors of Microsoft relevant? Yes. Apple? Not this. Were you criticizing or complimenting the Windows 98+ system? Yope.
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What other companies make software??

*Googles*

IBM Software? Oracle Corporation? SAP AG? Ca, Inc? Google??
Do any of these produce operating systems?
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What other companies make software??

*Googles*

IBM Software? Oracle Corporation? SAP AG? Ca, Inc? Google??
Do any of these produce operating systems?

FA.
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Yay! FA!

So its competitors don't make software?
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Yay! FA!

So its competitors don't make software? Incorrect.
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Hmmm... So what's the FA? That its competitors make software? That they produce operating systems?
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Hmmm... So what's the FA? That's for me to know, and for you to find out. That its competitors make software? No, they do. That they produce operating systems? No, they do.
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So I made a false assumption in my post, but... the only assumption I made was that the competitors made software. Unless you're talking about my using Google to find that out (:
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So I made a false assumption in my post, but... the only assumption I made was that the competitors made software. Unless you're talking about my using Google to find that out (: No, Google is allowed. You made another FA. Check your phrasing carefully (:
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D'oh! Is it not a company??
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D'oh! Is it not a company?? Exactly.
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*Kicks shin because wasted around 10 posts with that one word*

So, a NON-company that makes software and operating systems... I've got no idea. Bit of help someone?
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Is it anti-virus software?
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Is it some kind of open-source organization?
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Martinfg:
Is it anti-virus software? No.

Travis:
Is it some kind of open-source organization? Yes.
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The only thing I can think of is GNU... is that it?
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The only thing I can think of is GNU... is that it? Yes. In this particular case, it was a Linux distribution.
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********* RECAP *********
Something was done on a computer, which can be though of as a good job. Unexpectedly good, in some's view. A recent version of Microsoft Windows and Linux are relevant.

Let me add that solution of the puzzle requires a tiny bit of computer knowledge. It helps if you have used Windows in the past 10 years or so (but who hasn't...) and it helps if you know what Linux is (another operating system).
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I thought I posted.... Whoops...

Is there a feature in Linux/Windows 98 that is not in the other? Are you stating that it's a good job as a comparative? Is THAT Linux?
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Is there a feature in Linux/Windows 98 that is not in the other? Probably, but that's not the point, Are you stating that it's a good job as a comparative? No. Is THAT Linux? Yope.
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Is the something a type of programming/Program? Can both Windows and Linux use this program(ming), but Linux uses it better?
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Is the something a type of programming/Program? Yes-ish. Can both Windows and Linux use this program(ming), but Linux uses it better? Only Windows can use it.
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Anything to do with the similarities in appearance of Ubuntu and Vista?

If Debian releases of Linux are relevent, is the predictable Random-number generator fiasco a few months ago also relevent?
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Anything to do with the similarities in appearance of Ubuntu and Vista? No.

If Debian releases of Linux are relevent, is the predictable Random-number generator fiasco a few months ago also relevent? No. You don't need any detailed information about Linux. There is only one point about it that has to be uncovered, but you will get there (eventually).
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Modular kernel relevant?
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Modular kernel relevant? Yeow. No, no, it's much simpler than that. I think I have scared people off by saying that you need computer knowledge, so here's what you need to know.

HINT: Windows installs updates automatically every now and then.
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Tee hee... i thought i had it :D

Are Windows service packs relevant?
apt-style package managers?
The fact that you can usually upgrade to a new version of a linux distro "on the fly" by downloading the upgraded packages?
The whole issue of windows update phoning back license information and possibly usage reports?
Is Autopatcher relevant?
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Are Windows service packs relevant?
apt-style package managers?
The fact that you can usually upgrade to a new version of a linux distro "on the fly" by downloading the upgraded packages?
The whole issue of windows update phoning back license information and possibly usage reports?
Is Autopatcher relevant? No to all.
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The internet connection is relevant/needed?
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The internet connection is relevant/needed? Yes, inasmuch as it is necessary to download Windows updates.
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I don't know that much about computers, but you said we didn't need to, so:

Does the "good job" refer to the Windows updater?
Is the fact that Linux is safer/built better than Windows relevant?
Is it relevant that Windows is more user friendly?
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I don't know that much about computers, but you said we didn't need to, so:

Does the "good job" refer to the Windows updater? Yes.
Is the fact that Linux is safer/built better than Windows relevant? Yes.
Is it relevant that Windows is more user friendly? No.
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AFAIK there was no windows update in win 98, but somewhere above you said it applies to windows 98 inclusively. Or did you mean any version NEWER than 98?

Is the good job automatically downloading drivers from the internet? (does that even work?)

Are security updates relevant?
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Did the updater install something you thought you would use? may use?
Was it something that would run automatically or need to be told to run?
Did it somehow improve an existing function? add a new one?
Did it make it possible easier to install/run built for Linux applications?
Did it give Windows Linux-like functionality/ability in one or more ways? or make Windows better than Linux in respect to a specific functionality/ability?

Security relevant?
Ease-of-use relevant?
Entertainment relevant?
Work relevant?
Performance relevant?
Customisability relevant?

Would it help to know all or a few of the ways in which Linux and Windows differ?
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possible/easier*
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Vene:
AFAIK there was no windows update in win 98, but somewhere above you said it applies to windows 98 inclusively. Or did you mean any version NEWER than 98? According to Wikipedia, the first version of Windows Update actually ran on Win95! Anyway, the exact version of Windows is irrelevant.

Is the good job automatically downloading drivers from the internet? No. (does that even work? Who knows (:)

Are security updates relevant? No-ish.

Liquizt:
Did the updater install something you thought you would use? may use? Irrelevant.
Was it something that would run automatically or need to be told to run? Yes-ish to automatically, no to the other.
Did it somehow improve an existing function? No. add a new one? No-ish.
Did it make it possible/easier to install/run built for Linux applications? Not sure what you mean, could you please rephrase?
Did it give Windows Linux-like functionality/ability in one or more ways? No-ish. or make Windows better than Linux in respect to a specific functionality/ability? No.

Security relevant?
Ease-of-use relevant?
Entertainment relevant?
Work relevant?
Performance relevant?
Customisability relevant? All (except ease of use) are relevant only inasmuch as "Linux is safer/built better than Windows", to recycle Adryghi's words.

Would it help to know all or a few of the ways in which Linux and Windows differ? No.
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Is it along the lines "windows finally has (can get) a thingamajig that linux had for a while" ?
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Is it along the lines "windows finally has (can get) a thingamajig that linux had for a while" ? No.
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I don't know if I am right, but I think that, because Linux is built better, it doesn't need an updater like the one Windows has. If that is correct, is it relevant to the puzzle?
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I don't know if I am right, but I think that, because Linux is built better, it doesn't need an updater like the one Windows has. It actually does anyway. If that is correct, is it relevant to the puzzle? So no.
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HINT: What happens when you Windows updates your computer?
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D'oh... one "you" too much.
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It needs to restart to apply changes? X)
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it creates a system restore point?
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Liquizt:
It needs to restart to apply changes? X) Indeed. That's it.

Vene:
it creates a system restore point? It does that too, but that's irrelevant.
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So it's about not needing to restart, like linux, which only needs to restart for a kernel update?
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So it's about not needing to restart, like linux, which only needs to restart for a kernel update? No.
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Did the individual whose computer it was want it to restart?
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Did the individual whose computer it was want it to restart? NO.
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would anyone in or outside this situation want the computer to restart for any other reason than loading the update?

Did the restart stop or start any relevant process?
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would anyone in or outside this situation want the computer to restart for any other reason than loading the update? In the same situation, most people wouldn't want their computer to restart to load the update.

Did the restart stop or start any relevant process? No to stop, yope to start.
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There was no relevant process(es) running before the restart (other than the updater)? or there was but it was paused?
but after the computer loaded up again? a process was yopely started?

yope because: the process wasn't started as such but continued/resumed?
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There was no relevant process(es) running before the restart (other than the updater)? There was no other relevant process. or there was but it was paused? So no.
but after the computer loaded up again? a process was yopely started? Yes, but I sense a small FA here.

yope because: the process wasn't started as such but continued/resumed? No.
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Good job = Well done?

Did restarting turn out to be good? Bad?

Would Linux, if used instead, have done something good? Bad?

Viruses or other malicious programs involved? Or was something interrupted?
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Good job = Well done? Yope.

Did restarting turn out to be good? Bad? Yope to both.

Would Linux, if used instead, have done something good? This, irrelevant. Bad?

Viruses or other malicious programs involved? No. Or was something interrupted? No.

HINT: Figure out why Linux is relevant to this puzzle.
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Is the capitalization of "THAT's" relevant? If so, does this imply an acronym of some type?

Does this apply to all versions of linux? In not, to which does it apply?

Does this deal with a specific feature of windows update? Linux update? One update in particular?
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Is the capitalization of "THAT's" relevant? No. If so, does this imply an acronym of some type? No.

Does this apply to all versions of linux? No, but might mislead. In not, to which does it apply? This is not a yes-no question :-)

Does this deal with a specific feature of windows update? Yes, and it has already been established that it is the automatic reboot after update. Linux update? No. One update in particular? No.
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Sorry, this is my first day on the forum =)

does it refer specifically to ubuntu? Red Hat? GNU?

Does this deal with Windows Live OneCare?
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Sorry, this is my first day on the forum =) No worries.

does it refer specifically to ubuntu? Red Hat? GNU? No.

Does this deal with Windows Live OneCare? Don't even know what that is, thus no :-)
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Are you saying Windows/Microsoft did a good job? That Linux did a good job?

Is the good job an update for one of the OS? A new release? A product that is purchasable/attainable in material form?
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Sorry for the long delay.

Are you saying Windows/Microsoft did a good job? Yes, Windows did. That Linux did a good job? So no.

Is the good job an update for one of the OS? No-ish. A new release? No. A product that is purchasable/attainable in material form? Yes.
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Welcome back =)

Lets see then...is the product related to optimizing performance? security? ease-of-use? does it alter the GUI?

Is it purchasable at BestBuy? Tiger Direct? Through Microsoft only?

Is it actual hardware? software? I/O device?
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Welcome back =)

Lets see then...is the product related to optimizing performance? security? ease-of-use? does it alter the GUI? It alters all of these.

Is it purchasable at BestBuy? Tiger Direct? Through Microsoft only? No to all, and a hint of a FA.

Is it actual hardware? software? This. I/O device?

It's easier than you think.
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So, to clarify, it is a piece of software, put out by Microsoft, that you may purchase in material form, but that you cannot buy from the major distributors of Microsoft products?
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Is requiring a reboot after an update relevant?
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Postponing a reboot?
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Is there any O/S other than Linux that this would be true about?
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Open source relevant?
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Usmcfink:
So, to clarify, it is a piece of software, Yes put out by Microsoft, No that you may purchase in material form, Yes but that you cannot buy from the major distributors of Microsoft products? Correct.

Doctapeppa:
Is requiring a reboot after an update relevant? Very.
Postponing a reboot? No.
Is there any O/S other than Linux that this would be true about? Yes, irrelevant.
Open source relevant? Not really.
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Did (whatever Microsoft did) have any effect on reduction of the annoyance caused by having to restart the computer after updates are installed? Is there some specific quality of Linux that is the cause for its involvement in this puzzle, or was it arbitrarily chosen out of a group of operating systems that this would be true about?
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Just to clarify...
So far we have
1) Something was done on a computer.
2)What was done in (1) can be thought of as a good job.
3) What was done in (1) is unexpectedly good, in some's view.
4)Any version of Microsoft Windows since 95 is relevant.
5) Windows automatically rebooting after an automatic update is relevant.
6) Linux is relevant.
7) This puzzle would also be true if a different operating system than Linux were used in its stead, but this is irrelevant.
8) People generally don't like having to close all their applications and wait for their computer to restart whenever it feels like it.
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Did (whatever Microsoft did) have any effect on reduction of the annoyance caused by having to restart the computer after updates are installed? Yes. Is there some specific quality of Linux that is the cause for its involvement in this puzzle, or was it arbitrarily chosen out of a group of operating systems that this would be true about? More than one operating system would fit the bill.

Just to clarify...
So far we have
1) Something was done on a computer.
2)What was done in (1) can be thought of as a good job.
3) What was done in (1) is unexpectedly good, in some's view.
4)Any version of Microsoft Windows since 95 is relevant.
5) Windows automatically rebooting after an automatic update is relevant.
6) Linux is relevant.
7) This puzzle would also be true if a different operating system than Linux were used in its stead, but this is irrelevant. All correct up to here.
8) People generally don't like having to close all their applications and wait for their computer to restart whenever it feels like it. This is indubitably true but, alas, hardly relevant to this puzzle.
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Did Microsoft make restarting after updates quicker? Less often? At a different time? Did Microsoft provide a Gameboy to play while waiting for restart? I don't even have any idea which way the right forest is? Yes?
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Did Microsoft make restarting after updates quicker? Less often? At a different time? Irrelevant. Did Microsoft provide a Gameboy to play while waiting for restart? I wish. I don't even have any idea which way the right forest is? Probably. Yes? Maybe.

HINT: How did Linux come into the story?
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I assume because you arbitrarily chose it out of a group of non-Windows OS's. You never indicated otherwise in your answer to my question.
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I assume because you arbitrarily chose it out of a group of non-Windows OS's. You never indicated otherwise in your answer to my question. Other OSs would work as well in Linux's stead, but it was Linux that was involved in this particular puzzle...
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So was there a reason for picking Linux for this puzzle? Does the name sound better? Are you personally more familiar with it? Did you flip a coin?
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So was there a reason for picking Linux for this puzzle? It is a true story involving Linux. Does the name sound better? Are you personally more familiar with it? Did you flip a coin? Irrel to rest.
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Did Windows kill Linux?
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Did Windows kill Linux? No, but explore.
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Did Microsoft do anything that would specifically affect a different operating system? Vice versa? Vice versa vice versa?
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Did Microsoft do anything that would specifically affect a different operating system? No. Vice versa? Yope, explore. Vice versa vice versa? Er... no?!
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Did the Linux non-company producer develop a plague of locusts that would cause computers to turn off to restart and never turn back on? And Microsoft pwn'd them?
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Is this accurate?
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Did the Linux non-company producer develop a plague of locusts that would cause computers to turn off to restart and never turn back on? And Microsoft pwn'd them? It hasn't got anything to do with companies or whoever produces the OS. Only the involved machine is relevant.
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Is the involved machine...
A computer?
In the Northern Hemisphere?
Bigger than a breadbox?
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Is the involved machine...
A computer? Yes.
In the Northern Hemisphere? Irrelevant.
Bigger than a breadbox? Irrelevant.
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Was this does on a single computer? Did what was done affect computers across the world? Did what was done give some kind of an advantage to Windows over Linux?
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Was this does on a single computer? Yes. Did what was done affect computers across the world? No, just that computer. Did what was done give some kind of an advantage to Windows over Linux? No.

Want a recap?
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That would probably be helpful.
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I think you have all the pieces... you just have to put them together.

***** RECAP *****

A computer running Windows started an automatic security update, the result of which can be thought of as an unexpectedly good job. It has been established that:
* the automatic reboot after the installation of the updates is relevant;
* a certain piece of non-Windows, non Micro$oft software is connected to the "good job", AND
* Linux is relevant.

Question: what does the "good job" consist in?
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Does anybody care about this computer? Or was this just some computer in some school somewhere that isn't maintained properly anyway? Did anybody notice that it happened? Did this happen to your computer? Did this "good job" result in stock prices increasing? Were the stockholders happy? Is AVG relevant? What about AOL Instant Messenger? What about Linux? [Oh wait...]
Penguins relevant? Is any particular Microsoft employee responsible for the "good job"? Or was it a collaborative effort of thousands? Was the "good job" even intentional? Or did a computer script do the job? Could this have occurred in Ancient Rome? What about in Beethoven's Germany? Is the Internet relevant? (other than as the origin of the update)
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Does anybody care about this computer? Yes.
Or was this just some computer in some school somewhere that isn't maintained properly anyway? No.
Did anybody notice that it happened? Yes.
Did this happen to your computer? No.

Did this "good job" result in stock prices increasing? Were the stockholders happy? Is AVG relevant? What about AOL Instant Messenger? No to all of these.

What about Linux? Linux is relevant, yes.
[Oh wait...]
Penguins relevant? No. Is any particular Microsoft employee responsible for the "good job"? No. Or was it a collaborative effort of thousands? Neither. Was the "good job" even intentional? It wasn't. Good Q. Or did a computer script do the job? Yes-ish, very much OTRT!

Could this have occurred in Ancient Rome? No. What about in Beethoven's Germany? No. Is the Internet relevant? (other than as the origin of the update) No.
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Did some computer program do something that actually made sense? As opposed to having a tragic flaw? (I know many people who have difficulties with computers being uncooperative) So this computer had some version of Microsoft Windows? As its OS? And the automatic updater started an update? And then something unexpectedly good happened? Did the updater interact with a different program? Would this have happened if the computer had a different OS (assuming it still had the same automatic update style, if that makes any sense). Was whatever the other relevant piece of computer software installed on the computer at the time? Running?
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Did some computer program do something that actually made sense? As opposed to having a tragic flaw? (I know many people who have difficulties with computers being uncooperative) No.

So this computer had some version of Microsoft Windows? Yes. As its OS? Yes. And the automatic updater started an update? Yes. And then something unexpectedly good happened? Yes, but remember that it is "good" in a funny and unexpected way. Did the updater interact with a different program? YOPE. Would this have happened if the computer had a different OS (assuming it still had the same automatic update style, if that makes any sense). Yes, it would have happened in the same way, but the puzzle statement would have probably been different. Was whatever the other relevant piece of computer software installed on the computer at the time? No. Running? No.

And the other relevant piece of computer software is...?
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Adobe Reader?
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Adobe Reader? No, you're off track. It's REALLY easy, just re-read any of the latest posts...
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I re-read the latest posts, but they are all either mine, which I think I know already, or yours, which I have perused for hours...

Is Linux connected with the "good job"? Or does that come later? Or did that come earlier? Is the approximate retail value of the other relevant piece of computer software $19.95?
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Was the other relevant piece of computer software...
An application?
A website?
A video game?

Was it...
System software?
Programming software?

Is it relevant because it was NOT on the computer, and it would be expected to be?
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Is Linux connected with the "good job"? Yes!... Or does that come later? No... Or did that come earlier? No... Is the approximate retail value of the other relevant piece of computer software $19.95? No, it's lower than this...

Was the other relevant piece of computer software...
An application?
A website?
A video game? None of these.

Was it...
System software? Yes.
Programming software? Like a compiler? No.

Is it relevant because it was NOT on the computer, and it would be expected to be? No.
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Was it Linux software?
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Was it Linux software? It was Linux itself.
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I see.
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Did the computer restart with Linux?
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Did the computer restart with Linux? Yes.

I think we've all had enough of this puzzle, so here is the

***** SPOILER *****

If you burn an auto-installing Linux CD, make sure you remove it from your drive when you're done... otherwise, Windows will sooner or later reboot and perform the most radical possible security update.
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I don't understand.
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There are special automated installation CDs for Linux that don't require any human intervention. They are supposed to be used to set up a large number of machines at the same time.

If you burn one of these CDs under Windows and you leave it in your CDROM drive, you risk installing Linux on your machine if Windows tries to reboot after installing security updates. Since Linux is reputedly much more secure than Windows, the installation could be regarded as an unexpectedly good security update (a "good job").

Hope that helps.
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I see.

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