| Author | Message | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 129 Registered: 9-2008 |
One only needed to glance at the headline to know that the writer had a scrund. | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1449 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was the headline... In a newspaper? On the front page? Section: News? Sports? Weather? Business? Politics? Entertainment? Editorial? Home&Garden? Other? Scrund directed towards a... person? place? thing? animal? event? election? vegetable? mineral? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 130 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was the headline... In a newspaper? Yes. On the front page? Irrel. Section: News? Probably. Sports? No to rest. Weather? Business? Politics? Entertainment? Editorial? Home&Garden? Other? Scrund directed towards a... person? place? thing? This one. animal? event? election? vegetable? mineral? | ||
| Racoonieboy (Racoonieboy)
New member Username: Racoonieboy Post Number: 21 Registered: 10-2008 |
Was the scrund related to: Theft of the thing? How the thing looks like? What the thing means? A rumor about the thing? Do people usually get mistaken like the writer? Do only some? Barely anyone? Or high chance only him? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 131 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was the scrund related to: Theft of the thing? How the thing looks like? What the thing means? This one. A rumor about the thing? Do people usually get mistaken like the writer? Many people do, although many people also know what the thing really is. Do only some? This is closest. Barely anyone? Or high chance only him? I should probably clarify something: The goal of the puzzle is to figure out what the headline was that contained the scrund. Once you've figured out the headline, the scrund should be self-explanitory. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 132 Registered: 9-2008 |
Whoops! I think I just misspelled "self-explanatory." | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 316 Registered: 2-2008 |
Did the story involve scientific discovery of any kind? A machine? A country? A weapon? Was he mistaken in the definition of a word he used? Was the subject of the story the same as the subject of the scrund? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 133 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did the story involve scientific discovery of any kind? No. A machine? No. A country? No. A weapon? YES! Was he mistaken in the definition of a word he used? Yes. Was the subject of the story the same as the subject of the scrund? Yesish. | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 318 Registered: 2-2008 |
Was the word he mistook the name of the weapon? Did his scrund pertain to the type of weapon it was? How it worked? That it was a weapon at all? Was the story that the weapon had just been invented? Had it just been used? For the first time? Was someone threatening to use it? Was there something wrong with it? Or was the story coving a gun/weapon show of some kind? | ||
| Racoonieboy (Racoonieboy)
New member Username: Racoonieboy Post Number: 33 Registered: 10-2008 |
Was the weapon a knife? gun? sword? dagger? some old weapon? (like ancient stuff) | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 134 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was the weapon a knife? This one. gun? sword? dagger? some old weapon? (like ancient stuff) | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 324 Registered: 2-2008 |
My questions? Plus...was it a certain type of knife? Was it a crime story? Did the reprter seem to not understand what actually happened? Or did he simply not know how to word it? | ||
| Racoonieboy (Racoonieboy)
New member Username: Racoonieboy Post Number: 46 Registered: 10-2008 |
I am STUMPED...... ARGH Answer Gourami's questions... you answered mine but missed his above my post. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 135 Registered: 9-2008 |
My questions? Sorry, I skipped them somehow. Was the word he mistook the name of the weapon? Yes. Did his scrund pertain to the type of weapon it was? Yes. How it worked? That it was a weapon at all? No or noish to rest. Was the story that the weapon had just been invented? Had it just been used? This is closest. For the first time? Was someone threatening to use it? Was there something wrong with it? Or was the story coving a gun/weapon show of some kind? Plus...was it a certain type of knife? YES! Was it a crime story? Yes. Did the reprter seem to not understand what actually happened? Yope. Or did he simply not know how to word it? Noish. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 452 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was it about a knife amnesty? And the headline read "Police set knives free?" Or "Police giving out free knives?" | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 131 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was the knife type meant to be used as a weapon? A tool - e.g utility knife? For eating or cutting food? Was it a fixed bladed knife? A folding knife? Pocket knife? Does the scrund have to do with a specific type of knife? Or just the word knife in general? Was someone stabbed? Injured? Killed? | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 133 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was it a pen knife? Did the headline say something like "Man stabbed by pen"? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 136 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was it about a knife amnesty? And the headline read "Police set knives free?" Or "Police giving out free knives?"No to all. Was the knife type meant to be used as a weapon? A tool - e.g utility knife? For eating or cutting food? Was it a fixed bladed knife? This one. A folding knife? Pocket knife? Does the scrund have to do with a specific type of knife? Yes. Or just the word knife in general? Not the word "knife," but there IS another word that is central to the scrund. Was someone stabbed? Yes, presumably. Injured? Killed? Could be either. Was it a pen knife? Did the headline say something like "Man stabbed by pen"? No to all. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 665 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is the word that is central to the scrund... The type of weapon? How the weapon was used? A quality of the weapon? Something the weapon did? Something a person did? With the weapon? Is this based on a true story? Any lightsabers involved? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1579 Registered: 3-2006 |
Stiletto (perhaps someone thought he had been stabbed with one of Dolcis's best)? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 670 Registered: 12-2004 |
What the devil is "Dolcis's best"? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1580 Registered: 3-2006 |
http://www.barratts.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/MCategory_10055_22460_-1_10553 | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 671 Registered: 12-2004 |
Aha. I never had the grand opportunities that Aristotle and Plato had to follow around somebody smart and learn things. Instead, I have a Merriam-Webster's dictionary and (more recently) Wikipedia, and this forum. I have selective knowledge. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 138 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the word that is central to the scrund... The type of weapon? Yes. How the weapon was used? No to rest. A quality of the weapon? Something the weapon did? Something a person did? With the weapon? Is this based on a true story? This headline is rumored to have appeared in a real paper. Any lightsabers involved? No. Stiletto (perhaps someone thought he had been stabbed with one of Dolcis's best)? No. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 681 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is it a type of knife? Not a lightsaber? A brand name? Etc.? Ect.? A style of knife? Was it the same kind used by the Swiss army? What about suicidal samurais? Ninjas? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 139 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is it a type of knife? Yes. Not a lightsaber? No. A brand name? No. Etc.? Ect.? A style of knife? I think you could call it that. Was it the same kind used by the Swiss army? No. What about suicidal samurais? I don't think so. Ninjas? I don't think so either. | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1581 Registered: 3-2006 |
Kris? Machete? Kukri? Fruit knife? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1526 Registered: 1-2007 |
IS the phrase "Mac the Knife" relevant? Did they think Mac was short for Machete? Or something really silly like David Bowie invented the Bowie Knife? | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 144 Registered: 1-2008 |
Butterfly knife? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 686 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did the author know the item in question was a knife? Did he refer to a knife as something else? Did he refer to something else as a knife? Did he make any false assumptions? Would the type of knife be useful for cutting: Rope/Cables? Wires? Wood/vegetation? People? Food? Something else? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 688 Registered: 12-2004 |
Would the headline read significantly different if the writer had not had a scrund? Would everyone be able to tell that the writer had a scrund based on the headline? Or just those who did not share the scrund? Or maybe the people who actually knew what had happened? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 141 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did the author know the item in question was a knife? NO! Did he refer to a knife as something else? By implication, yes. Did he refer to something else as a knife? No. Did he make any false assumptions? That's virtually the definition of a scrund. Would the type of knife be useful for cutting: Rope/Cables? Wires? Wood/vegetation? People? Probably any of these, but this in particular. We've already established that the knife was a weapon. Food? Something else? Would the headline read significantly different if the writer had not had a scrund? No, only one word would be different. Would everyone be able to tell that the writer had a scrund based on the headline? Or just those who did not share the scrund? This one. Perhaps there would have been clues in the rest of the article, but the only people who could tell from the headline would be the people who didn't share the scrund. Or maybe the people who actually knew what had happened? No, anyone who knew what the word the writer misused actually meant would have been able to recognize the scrund IMMEDIATELY. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 692 Registered: 12-2004 |
Was the writer of the headline the same person as the writer of the article? If so, did (s)he make a similar mistake(s) in the rest of the article? Was the headline something like [Person] attacks [person] with [Weapon]? Was the headline one of those headlines that occurs when idiotic journalists try to be funny (e.g., Man Makes Rocket With Diet Coke and Mentos, Spectators Have Blast)? Did the writer confuse the type knife with a different weapon (e.g., in the version of Romeo and Juliet with Leondardo de Caprio they refer to their guns as "Swords" [with Sword being a brand name])? Did the writer think the action occurred with a non-weapon object (e.g., a fish, a box of frozen peas)? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1455 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did the title read something along the lines of... "Man found shot" instead of "Man found stabbed"? Or perhaps... "Man shot to death" instead of "Man stabbed to death" Similar? Did the headline at all imply that somebody had been injured/killed by the weapon? "[Noun][verb][knife]"? "[Noun][verb][scrund/euphemism for knife]"? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 144 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did the title read something along the lines of... "Man found shot" instead of "Man found stabbed"? Or perhaps... YES! "Man shot to death" instead of "Man stabbed to death" Similar? Similar, but the headline did not specify whether the victim died or not. Did the headline at all imply that somebody had been injured/killed by the weapon? It certainly suggested/implied one of the two, although it's not clear which (and not relevant to the puzzle.) "[Noun][verb][knife]"? "[Noun][verb][scrund/euphemism for knife]"? Neither of these. HINT: The word "knife" was not in the headline at all. | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1460 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was there a picture of the scene of the crime? Did it show a man with a handle sticking out of his back? And the title said he took a bullet? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 145 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was there a picture of the scene of the crime? Did it show a man with a handle sticking out of his back? And the title said he took a bullet? No to all. No pictures were relevant. | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 257 Registered: 6-2008 |
Was it "man shot with _____ ", where the blank is a type of knife rather than a type of gun? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 146 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was it "man shot with _____ ", where the blank is a type of knife rather than a type of gun? Yes, essentially. Now figure out the type of knife. The word that I'm looking for is a word that I've heard a lot of people think refers to a gun rather than a knife. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 699 Registered: 12-2004 |
I see how it is. You don't want to answer my questions anymore because of the nuclear weapons question. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 702 Registered: 12-2004 |
The word you're looking for is... Machine gun? Nine millimeter? Gat? Piece? Heater? Uzi? Shotgun? Harpoon? Machete? Bow? Longsword? "Thy tool"? "My naked weapon"? Cleaver? Butter knife? Steak knife? Swiss army knife? Katana? Chainsaw? Baseball bat? Pocketknife? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2211 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is it by any chance a bayonet? A different knife-ish thing attached to a gun? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 147 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is it by any chance a bayonet? A different knife-ish thing attached to a gun? No to all. | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1463 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the knife a hunting knife? Used more in the kitchen? How about an Ulu (eskimo skinning/slicing knife for fish)? | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 337 Registered: 2-2008 |
Machete? | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 338 Registered: 2-2008 |
Dang, I guessed something that was already guessed. Well, maybe if I don't call attention to my mistake, no one will notice... Damn it. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 716 Registered: 12-2004 |
Rcs isn't answering my questions anyway. An unpleasant matter involving nuclear weapons. | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1467 Registered: 6-2005 |
Darn liberals! Nuclear power has its place in the world. Would this knife likely be wielded by somebody in the military? Is it serated? non-serated? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 149 Registered: 9-2008 |
Would this knife likely be wielded by somebody in the military? No. Is it serated? non-serated? I'm sorry, I don't know enough about this kind of knife to be able to answer this. HINT: Foreign word. | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2008 |
Wakizashi? (spelling?) | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 746 Registered: 12-2004 |
Deus ex machina? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 152 Registered: 9-2008 |
Wakizashi? (spelling?) Deus ex machina? Neither of those, unfortunately. The foreign word is the type of knife. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 767 Registered: 12-2004 |
I shall now establish an LTPF list of knives. {LTPF List|Types of Knives |group1 = weapons |list1 = Bayonet Combat knife Throwing knife Trench knife Shiv |group2 = Utensils |list2 = Bread knife Boning knife Carving knife Chef's knife Electric knife Kitchen knife Table knife Ulu |group3 = Tools |list3 = Bowie knife Butterfly knife Diver's knife Electrician's knife Hunting knife Machete Pocket knife Palette knife Scalpel Straight razor Survival knife Switchblade Utility knife Wood carving knife |group4 = Traditional list4 = Athame Kirpan Kukri Laguiole knife Lajinaa Mora knife Opinel knife Puukko Sabatier Seax Swiss Army knife Sgian Dubh } Is it any of those? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 153 Registered: 9-2008 |
I shall now establish an LTPF list of knives. {LTPF List|Types of Knives |group1 = weapons |list1 = Bayonet Combat knife Throwing knife Trench knife Shiv |group2 = Utensils |list2 = Bread knife Boning knife Carving knife Chef's knife Electric knife Kitchen knife Table knife Ulu |group3 = Tools |list3 = Bowie knife Butterfly knife Diver's knife Electrician's knife Hunting knife Machete This one. Pocket knife Palette knife Scalpel Straight razor Survival knife Switchblade Utility knife Wood carving knife |group4 = Traditional list4 = Athame Kirpan Kukri Laguiole knife Lajinaa Mora knife Opinel knife Puukko Sabatier Seax Swiss Army knife Sgian Dubh } ****************SPOILER********************* Here is the scrund headline (reputed to have actually appeared in a newspaper), word for word: Man Shoots Neighbor With Machete The funny thing is, I've heard that a lot of people seem to think a machete is a type of gun rather than a type of knife. Well done, everybody, for figuring this out. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 796 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did you seriously not notice my post 702, or are you still upset about the nuclear weapons thing? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 155 Registered: 9-2008 |
Yep. Sorry, I must have missed your post somehow. I'm certainly not angry with you. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 156 Registered: 9-2008 |
I'm sorry to everyone; somehow I TOTALLY overlooked a BUNCH of posts on this forum. I think maybe I was away from the website for a while, and I didn't check thoroughly to make sure I'd read every post that had been made in my absence. SO sorry about that. Please rest assured that it has NOTHING to do with personal grudges. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 800 Registered: 12-2004 |
ROFL. I'm just messing with you. In case you haven't figured out yet, very little of what I say is serious. | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
New member Username: Gourami Post Number: 348 Registered: 2-2008 |
I thought that might be it. lol, nice puzzle. I'd like to see that headline. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 157 Registered: 9-2008 |
I can't say for sure if it's real or not; I haven't seen it myself. | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 316 Registered: 5-2007 |
I am not altogether sure about this. It is in the nature of newspaper headlines that ambiguity can easily creep in, and that might be what has happened here. "Man Shoots Neighbor With Machete" could well mean that the neighbor had the machete, and the man shot him for fear that the machete would otherwise be used by the neighbor upon the man, with detrimental consequences. I have posted my favourite (authentic) newspaper headline on this forum before, but it bears repeating as an example of the kind of ambiguity I mean: Incest More Common Than Thought In United States | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 853 Registered: 12-2004 |
It's amazing how Woubit has the ability to so eloquently explain things (even things that I am conscious of but cannot express in words myself). Thereby, I award you, Woubit, with the "British LTPF Moderator of the Hour" award. Congratulations. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 158 Registered: 9-2008 |
Woubit, I realized the same thing you did about halfway through the puzzle. Nevertheless, I still thought it would be best to stick with the scrund explanation of the headline, especially since I have heard that there are people out there with that particular scrund about machetes. Glad you liked the puzzle! | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 159 Registered: 9-2008 |
Woubit, I realized the same thing you did about halfway through the puzzle. Nevertheless, I still thought it would be best to stick with the scrund explanation of the headline, especially since I have heard that there are people out there with that particular scrund about machetes. Glad you liked the puzzle! |
