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Vagary (Vagary)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 3:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Unfortunately for him, his choice gave him just enough time to change his mind.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 6:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does this involve any:
Dead men?
Albatrosses?
Elevators?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 6:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

First puzzle, hope it's decent! =)

Does this involve any:
Dead men? Yope
Albatrosses? No
Elevators?No
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Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 6:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

First "Him" = H? A? M?
First "His" = of or belonging to the first "Him"? A different male?
Second "Him" = First "Him"?
Second "His" = of or belonging to the first "Him"? the second "Him"? A different male?
Vagary (Vagary)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 7:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

All pronouns represent one HAM, let's call him Nate.
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Are there any other persons relevant to the puzzle?
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Are there any other persons relevant to the puzzle? No. Only Nate is relevant.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 7:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Nate want to make a choice that would give him just enough time to change his mind? More than enough time to change his mind? Less than enough time to change his mind? Did he want to be able to change his mind? Did he try to kill himself by taking a whole bunch of painkillers, just to realize that he would still be alive, but with numerous diseases?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 7:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Nate want to make a choice that would give him just enough time to change his mind? No
More than enough time to change his mind? No
Less than enough time to change his mind? NoDid he want to be able to change his mind? NoDid he try to kill himself by taking a whole bunch of painkillers, just to realize that he would still be alive, but with numerous diseases? No, OTRT
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Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 9:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he ever consider that there was a possibility that his mind wouldn't be the same forever?
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Did he ever consider that there was a possibility that his mind wouldn't be the same forever? I'll say no; we could assume this "bad decision" was impulsive.
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Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he wish that he hadn't made the decision he had made?
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Did he wish that he hadn't made the decision he had made? Yes.
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Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

His choice gave him just enough time to change...
His mind about wanting to make the decision?
His mind about the decision?
The decision itself?
Something else?
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Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

His choice gave him just enough time to change...
His mind about wanting to make the decision?
His mind about the decision?
The decision itself?
Something else?
With some of these being very similar, I'll just say he 'changed his mind' in the sense that he regretted the decision he made.
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Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 9:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he regret even making a decision?
Did he have to make a decision?
Would deciding to not make a decision be a decision, and thus turning this into a paradox?
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Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 1:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he regret even making a decision? Yes. See above.

Did he have to make a decision? Yes. Kind of irrel.
Would deciding to not make a decision be a decision, and thus turning this into a paradox? Irrel.
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Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 7:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was his decision...
A choice of action?
A choice of words?
Just thoughts?
Surveys relevant?
Was he equally hungry as thirsty and equally distant from food and water?
Was he unable to make a "rational" decision, since choosing it would only be rational to choose the best option? Was he thereby doomed to make an irrational decision, by arbitrarily choosing the food over the drink or vice versa, or by deciding to choose neither and die of thirst and/or starvation?
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Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 7:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was his decision...
A choice of action? Yes. No to the rest.
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Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 7:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he do something that he couldn't un-do? Nineteen Eighty-Four relevant?
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Did he do something that he couldn't un-do? Yes. Hence the "unfortunately" in the first post.

Nineteen Eighty-Four relevant? Not at all.
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Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 7:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he commit some kind of crime? Was there any injury? Destruction of property? MURDER?! Was the result of his choice of action something that he did not foresee? Did he get some new information after he already made his decision? Did he find out that Bob Barr was a Libertarian only after he already voted for him?
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Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 8:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he commit some kind of crime? Nope.
Was there any injury? A whole ton.
Destruction of property? Nossir.
MURDER?! No.
Was the result of his choice of action something that he did not foresee? No.
Did he get some new information after he already made his decision? No.
Did he find out that Bob Barr was a Libertarian only after he already voted for him? f(x)^-1
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Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2008 - 5:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why do you have to answer in function notation (you know what I mean!)? Eschew obfuscation, espouse elucidation, that's what I always say.
Did everybody die? Did anybody die? Did everybody get injured? Did anybody get injured? Did Nate get injured? As a direct result of his actions? By the indirect end result of a series of events that began with him either making or not making a decision of whether or not to choose to decide whether or not to take a course of action or not to take said action, after having considered the nature and possible repercussions of the aforementioned action or lack thereof?
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 4:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's simply a meaningless answer to a question I thought was a shot in the dark, and unrelated to anything previous. It was funny, though.

Did everybody die? No.
Did anybody die? Yes.
Did everybody get injured? No.
Did anybody get injured? Yeah.
Did Nate get injured? ..and then some.
As a direct result of his actions? Yes.
By the indirect end result of a series of events that began with him either making or not making a decision of whether or not to choose to decide whether or not to take a course of action or not to take said action, after having considered the nature and possible repercussions of the aforementioned action or lack thereof? Twelve.

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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 6:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ROFL my waffle.
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Posted on Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Nate die?

If so, was his death caused... (and if he didn't die, substitute "injury" for "death")
By poison?
By blood loss?
By physical (not chemical, as with poison) organ damage?
By suffocation?
Was Nate attempting suicide?
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 1:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Nate die? Sure did; poor bastard.

If so, was his death caused... (and if he didn't die, substitute "injury" for "death")
By poison? Nope.
By blood loss? It's possible.
By physical (not chemical, as with poison) organ damage? This is more likely.
By suffocation? No.

Was Nate attempting suicide? Sure was; dumb bastard.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was Nates decision about the way he wanted to kill himself? And the choice about how to commit suicide gave him enough time to regret the kind of suicide? the decision to commit suicide?
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Was Nates decision about the way he wanted to kill himself? Yes!
And the choice about how to commit suicide gave him enough time to regret the kind of suicide? Yope.
the decision to commit suicide? Yes!
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So in the time between "starting" the suicide and his death something happened that made him not wanting to die any more?
Did he see someting? Hear something? Remember something?
Did he have a certain reason to kill himself and before he died he realised that he misunderstood something?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 3:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So in the time between "starting" the suicide and his death something happened that made him not wanting to die any more? This and the rest are FA; let's say the decision was impulsive, and he just realized for no reason at all that he no longer wanted to die. What gave him just enough time to realize this? This puzzle's teetering on the edge of completed-ness.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 4:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

well I always thought that jumping from a high building is a bad way to kill yourself because you could change your mind and then it is too late
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

well I always thought that jumping from a high building is a bad way to kill yourself because you could change your mind and then it is too late

There it is, folks, the
******************SPOILER****************

Nate, in a depressed emotional state, impulsively decides to kill himself and jumps from his 20th floor apartment building. This gives him just enough time to realize his decision was impulsive and not what he really wanted before becoming a janitorial inconvenience on the concrete below.


Thanks to DoctaPeppa for trailblazing my first puzzle, and to D_gordon and Cookie for the deathblows. If you enjoyed, I just started a new puzzle, "The Cage".

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