| Author | Message | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1585 Registered: 3-2006 |
I would have thought that the letter G would do the job just as well. Apparently not. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 694 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is the title relevant? Is the title in some kind of language that I would be able to determine? Should I ask my Spanish teacher what it means? Is this based on a true story? FYOI? The letter G = the sixth letter of the alphabet? Were you trying to express something? Mathematics involved? What about music? Kenny G? Comic books? Is the "job" relevant? Is it something you were trying to accomplish? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1586 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the title relevant? yes Is the title in some kind of language that I would be able to determine? I have no idea Should I ask my Spanish teacher what it means? if you wish Is this based on a true story? yes FYOI? no The letter G = the sixth letter of the alphabet? no Were you trying to express something? no Mathematics involved? no What about music? no Kenny G? no Comic books? no Is the "job" relevant? not sure which job you mean. Some jobs are relevant, yes Is it something you were trying to accomplish? no | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 695 Registered: 12-2004 |
Wow. I'm slow... G = seventh letter of the alphabet? Was the doer of the "job"... You? Me? Some abstract quality? I = You? The letter G = G? The letter G = g? The job = Something that is done? Just as well = with as much accuracy and precision as something than the letter G? Apparently not = The letter G doesn't do the job just as well? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 696 Registered: 12-2004 |
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? = Who are the watchers of the watchers? ? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1587 Registered: 3-2006 |
G = seventh letter of the alphabet? yes Was the doer of the "job"... You? no Me? no Some abstract quality? sort of, though the "job" of the puzzle statement is not an actual task as such I = You? yes The letter G = G? The letter G = g? Actually this one. Good question The job = Something that is done? yes, but see above Just as well = with as much accuracy and precision as something other than the letter G? yes, and with a lot less fuss Apparently not = The letter G doesn't do the job just as well? according to some, it seems not Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? = Who are the watchers of the watchers? Yes, more or less: "who will guard the guards themselves?" or perhaps "who will supervise the supervisors?" | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1451 Registered: 6-2005 |
Computer key strokes relevant? Certain "beep" the computer will make when 'g' is hit in combination with another key, relevant? Is the 'g' in this puzzle used... by itself? In a word? in a sentence? In a Title? In a password combination? In a random series of letters? In a random series of letters, numbers, symbols? In computer code? In computer key combinations? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1588 Registered: 3-2006 |
Computer key strokes relevant? Certain "beep" the computer will make when 'g' is hit in combination with another key, relevant? Good ideas, but it's nothing to do with this Is the 'g' in this puzzle used... by itself? In a word? this in a sentence? In a Title? In a password combination? In a random series of letters? In a random series of letters, numbers, symbols? In computer code? In computer key combinations? no to rest | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1454 Registered: 6-2005 |
Scrabble relevant? Business relevant? Certain profession relevant? TV show relevant? Political ads relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1589 Registered: 3-2006 |
Scrabble relevant? not this time Business relevant? not really Certain profession relevant? yes TV show relevant? no Political ads relevant? no | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1456 Registered: 6-2005 |
Relevant Profession: Artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Criminal/Questionable Repute? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media? Environmental/Outdoors/Nature? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Security ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Other ? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1590 Registered: 3-2006 |
Artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? a little of this Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Criminal/Questionable Repute? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media? Environmental/Outdoors/Nature? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government and this / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Security ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Other ? ... though I've often considered "questionable repute" as a career | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1459 Registered: 6-2005 |
I'm reminded of an anti-drug commercial: How many kids do you think tell their parents, I want to be a stoner when I grow up! Or a drug dealer! Or a jailbird! So... profession is... Senator? President? Representative? Governor? Sarah Palin relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1591 Registered: 3-2006 |
I'm reminded of an anti-drug commercial: How many kids do you think tell their parents, I want to be a stoner when I grow up! Or a drug dealer! Or a jailbird! So... profession is... Senator? President? Representative? Governor? Sarah Palin relevant? no, nothing so grand as any of these | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1461 Registered: 6-2005 |
Commissioner? Deputy Mayor? Mayor? Is the government position at National level? State level? Province level? Town level? Organization level? Club level? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1592 Registered: 3-2006 |
Commissioner? Deputy Mayor? Mayor? Is the government position at National level? State level? Province level? Town level? it concerns a town council, though it would work just as well for a province or county Organization level? Club level? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1462 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does this concern the checks and balances involved with the town council? Does it concern how they vote? Does it have to do with how you denote you're on the council? Vehicles & license plates relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1593 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does this concern the checks and balances involved with the town council? Does it concern how they vote? Does it have to do with how you denote you're on the council? Vehicles & license plates relevant? none of those things, I'm afraid | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 697 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is the thing that would need to be used in place of a "g"... Another letter? A number? A symbol? A work of literature? Something tangible? Something intangible? An abstract quality? A q? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1594 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the thing that would need to be used in place of a "g"... Another letter? A number? A symbol? A work of literature? Something tangible? Something intangible? this, and beware FA An abstract quality? A q? | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 141 Registered: 10-2008 |
is the word english? spanish? portugese? noun(proper or not)? verb? adj.? adv.? something else that my still groggy mind isn't putting down? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1595 Registered: 3-2006 |
is the word english? spanish? portugese? noun(proper or not)? verb? adj.? adv.? something else that my still groggy mind isn't putting down? it's an English noun | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 709 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is there something whose purpose you thought could be fulfilled by "g"? Something like, "You can't turn walking into playing a game for money without greedy intent" and you thought "ambling + g = gambling"? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1597 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is there something whose purpose you thought could be fulfilled by "g"? yes Something like, "You can't turn walking into playing a game for money without greedy intent" and you thought "ambling + g = gambling"? no, but a clever idea, and not too far from the right forest | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 713 Registered: 12-2004 |
So... You thought that "g" could be used in [something abstract]'s place to accomplish the intended objective, but some people disagree? Was the abstract thing: an idea? a condition? a quality? a concept? something else? (choose all that apply) | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1598 Registered: 3-2006 |
You thought that "g" could be used in [something abstract]'s place to accomplish the intended objective, but some people disagree? This is one way of putting it, but the puzzle statement probably conveys the sarcastic tone rather better Was the abstract thing: an idea? a condition? a quality? a concept? something else? (choose all that apply) it was an entire story, or state of affairs (to be deduced), which prompted my remark | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 724 Registered: 12-2004 |
According to you, "g" could be used in place of... A war? A golden age? Hammurabi relevant? Laws making pi = 3.1416 relevant? If "g" was used, would we now have a cure for cancer? A renewable energy source? Instead of "g", nuclear weapons were used in WWII? A special election had to take place? All the records of old were destroyed? Somebody had to invade somebody? Drug dealing relevant? Taxation without representation? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1599 Registered: 3-2006 |
According to you, "g" could be used in place of... A war? A golden age? Hammurabi relevant? Laws making pi = 3.1416 relevant? If "g" was used, would we now have a cure for cancer? A renewable energy source? Instead of "g", nuclear weapons were used in WWII? A special election had to take place? All the records of old were destroyed? Somebody had to invade somebody? Drug dealing relevant? Taxation without representation? no | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 813 Registered: 12-2004 |
I've confused myself. I request a recap. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 584 Registered: 5-2008 |
Shape of 'g' relevant? Sound of 'g' relevant? if 'g' were to be used would it be visually represented anywhere? verbally? Did you suggest that 'g' should be used in place of 'something' as people had some kind of trouble comprehending/verbalising/etc. the 'something' and you felt that by replacing it with 'g' this problem could be circumvented, however subsequently discovered that people had as much/ more trouble of the same kind or otherwise with 'g' as they did with 'something'? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1600 Registered: 3-2006 |
Shape of 'g' relevant? no Sound of 'g' relevant? no if 'g' were to be used would it be visually represented anywhere? it would be written down as part of a word verbally? Did you suggest that 'g' should be used in place of 'something' as people had some kind of trouble comprehending/verbalising/etc. the 'something' and you felt that by replacing it with 'g' this problem could be circumvented, however subsequently discovered that people had as much/ more trouble of the same kind or otherwise with 'g' as they did with 'something'? Not quite this. But the "trouble comprehending something" is very much OTRT. Hint: The title and the local government officials may prove a more helpful starting-point than the letter G. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 866 Registered: 12-2004 |
Who officiates the local government officials? Do(es) he/she/it/they do it with "g"? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1601 Registered: 3-2006 |
Who officiates the local government officials? this could be a way of interpreting the title, yes Do(es) he/she/it/they do it with "g"? no | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 757 Registered: 7-2001 |
is there any kind of sign or notice involved here? some kind of law or rule? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1602 Registered: 3-2006 |
is there any kind of sign or notice involved here? no some kind of law or rule? yes! exactly this. perhaps "rule" rather than an actual statute. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 937 Registered: 12-2004 |
A rule? A written rule? An unwritten rule? An unwritten rule that if you post an inappropriate tirade of garbage that it gets deleted? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1603 Registered: 3-2006 |
A rule? yes A written rule? yes An unwritten rule? no An unwritten rule that if you post an inappropriate tirade of garbage that it gets deleted? no | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 768 Registered: 7-2001 |
did you think that adding a g to the wording of the rule would be better? would adding a g to the desired outcome of the rule make the rule easier to follow? or more likely to succeed? does the rule stop people doing something? make them do something? does it relate to safety? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1604 Registered: 3-2006 |
did you think that adding a g to the wording of the rule would be better? no would adding a g to the desired outcome of the rule make the rule easier to follow? no or more likely to succeed? this, I suppose, for svv of "succeed" does the rule stop people doing something? this one make them do something? no does it relate to safety? no | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 986 Registered: 12-2004 |
Would a "G" just not be good enough? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1605 Registered: 3-2006 |
Would a "G" just not be good enough? Well, I would have thought that it would. But apparently not. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1557 Registered: 1-2007 |
Any relevant acronyms? Quangos? Are the local govt. officials involved in specific roles? environmental? rates? traffic management? transport services? parks? Relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1607 Registered: 3-2006 |
Any relevant acronyms? no Quangos? technically not, because these are non-governmental, but if you mean general busybodies and committees, then yes Are the local govt. officials involved in specific roles? I'm sure the officials in question had a 'role' and were fiercely proud of it, but it's more generalised than any of the guesses below environmental? not specifically rates? not specifically traffic management? not specifically transport services? not specifically parks? ditto Relevant? not really: it could be any of those | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1114 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is it relevant why "g" (as opposed to "G")? Or does it just appear in a sentence, and, following proper mechanics, it should be lowercase? Bye, bye, Miss American Pie? Did you write a letter to the editor? And the editor was high? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1620 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it relevant why "g" (as opposed to "G")? see below Or does it just appear in a sentence, and, following proper mechanics, it should be lowercase? this Bye, bye, Miss American Pie? this world was never meant for one as beautiful as you Did you write a letter to the editor? no And the editor was high? no | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1435 Registered: 12-2004 |
Are Robert's Rules of Order relevant? Any county or municipal ordinances relevant? Does anybody care about the letter "g"? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1622 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are Robert's Rules of Order relevant? no Any county or municipal ordinances relevant? not really: 'rules' is closer Does anybody care about the letter "g"? no-one gives a monkey's | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 48 Registered: 9-2008 |
Would these "rules" be grammatical rules? Was there an disagreement over whether a word should be capitalized or not? example: government vs Government? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1653 Registered: 3-2006 |
Would these "rules" be grammatical rules? Was there an disagreement over whether a word should be capitalized or not? example: government vs Government? no to all, but you're on the right lines | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 305 Registered: 6-2008 |
Would the "g" be added to the start of a word? to the end? inserted within a word? exchanged for another letter (as in boat --> goat)? Do the rules pertain to something totally internal to the council (such as how often they must meet)? or something that other members of the town must adhere to as well? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1656 Registered: 3-2006 |
Would the "g" be added to the start of a word? no to the end? inserted within a word? yes: this exchanged for another letter (as in boat --> goat)? not this Do the rules pertain to something totally internal to the council (such as how often they must meet)? this one ...or something that other members of the town must adhere to as well? ... rather than this. Good q. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1697 Registered: 12-2004 |
I request a recap! | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1675 Registered: 3-2006 |
Okey dokey: let's see if I can still remember. ***** RECAP ****** A town council has introduced a particular rule. This rule forbids people from doing something. The rule applies to various members of the council, but not to members of the public. My source gave one specific example of the rule in action, and I thought it was rather silly. Hence my rather sarcastic remark, which is the puzzle statement. The title is relevant. To solve the puzzle, you will need to guess the rule, and also discover the specific example which involves the letter "g". | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1697 Registered: 1-2007 |
Sorry for neglecting this one but Santa desperately needed our help ;O) Anything to do with jobs that council members might hold? Do they have to complete a members interest declaration? Is actual supervision of something relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1680 Registered: 3-2006 |
Sorry for neglecting this one but Santa desperately needed our help ;O) He did indeed! That was a fine epic, even by Woubit standards Anything to do with jobs that council members might hold? only vaguely Do they have to complete a members interest declaration? no Is actual supervision of something relevant? no | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1759 Registered: 12-2004 |
Oooh! I know... Council members weren't allowed to solicit clients for prostitutes. Or perhaps they weren't allowed to have their main source of income be from prostitution? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1681 Registered: 3-2006 |
Oooh! I know... Council members weren't allowed to solicit clients for prostitutes. Or perhaps they weren't allowed to have their main source of income be from prostitution? LOL. One day, one of your guesses will be spot-on, and you will have solved a puzzle. Sadly, today is not that day, but your guesses are very entertaining. Town councillors are far too tedious to moonlight as pimps, at least where I come from. I'd probably have more respect for them if they did. | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 156 Registered: 12-2008 |
The prohibition: is it about use of council property? use of language? forms of communication? dress code? Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Auditors relevant? Audit commission? Inspectors? Ombudsman? The public? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1682 Registered: 3-2006 |
The prohibition: is it about use of council property? no use of language? indeed forms of communication? very much so dress code? no Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? your guess is as good as mine, but anyone planning to incarcerate Jacqui Smith indefinitely would get my vote Auditors relevant? no Audit commission? no Inspectors? no Ombudsman? no Ombudsmen are involved in this puzzle, but it's a lovely word The public? yes, in a roundabout sort of way | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1708 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is e-mail relevant? Are they banned from using certain words or from using something like legalese? businss speak? text speech? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1684 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is e-mail relevant? no Are they banned from using certain words or from using something like legalese? yes, something like this ... explore a little further businss speak? but not really this text speech? and not this | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 158 Registered: 12-2008 |
Is this linked to the campaign for plain English? The banning of latin phrases? Avoidance of jargon? of abbreviations? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1686 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is this linked to the campaign for plain English? yes, or at least it has the backing of the CPE: see below The banning of latin phrases? Yes! precisely this: a British town council has banned its employees from using Latin phrases, because it might confuse people. The Campaign for Plain English thinks it's a smashing idea (and have given one rather amusing example of the sort of confusion that the rule might avoid), while one university professor called it the linguistic equivalent of ethnic cleansing. Hmmm ... Now then, all that remains is to work out the example given by the CPE, and how the letter "g" fits into all this ... Avoidance of jargon? of abbreviations? this last is certainly relevant | ||
| Oisin (Oisin)
New member Username: Oisin Post Number: 159 Registered: 12-2008 |
Latin abbreviations and the letter g? Don't tell me that the CPE and councils are afraid that someone will confuse e.g. with egg? Labour ministers, e.g. Peter Mandelson - well, I realise that many would like to : ) | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1687 Registered: 3-2006 |
Latin abbreviations and the letter g? Don't tell me that the CPE and councils are afraid that someone will confuse e.g. with egg? Labour ministers, e.g. Peter Mandelson - well, I realise that many would like to : ) Exactly and precisely so! Well done. And just to prove I'm not making it up, here's Natalie Haynes writing in The Times: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article5083989.ece and, at last, that's a ***** SPOILER ***** |
