| Author | Message | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1834 Registered: 12-2004 |
If a letter was different, the scrund would have probably affected me. | ||
| Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara Post Number: 113 Registered: 12-2008 |
letter as in the alphabet? or a letter that consists of words written and is typically mailed? | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 204 Registered: 1-2008 |
ABC song relevant? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1835 Registered: 12-2004 |
Bolapara: letter as in the alphabet? This one or a letter that consists of words written and is typically mailed? Howardwoman: ABC song relevant? Not directly. | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 337 Registered: 6-2008 |
"The scrund would have probably affected me' as in: You would have formed a scrund (if the letter was different)? You already had the scrund, but it would only have had any consequences if the letter was different? Is the letter part of a word? Would changing the letter form a different, but still real word? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1840 Registered: 12-2004 |
Biograd: "The scrund would have probably affected me' as in: You would have formed a scrund (if the letter was different)? You already had the scrund, but it would only have had any consequences if the letter was different? This one, most likely. (Although if the letter was different, I may not have had the scrund at all.) Is the letter part of a word? No Would changing the letter form a different, but still real word? So no | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 247 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the relevant letter [LTPF list of letters from A to Z]? If the letter was different -- if it were replaced with another letter in the alphabet? Or perhaps if the same letter were written (or printed, for that matter) differently? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1844 Registered: 12-2004 |
D_gordon: Is the relevant letter [LTPF list of letters from A to Z]? Yes :-] If the letter was different -- if it were replaced with another letter in the alphabet? Yes Or perhaps if the same letter were written (or printed, for that matter) differently? No | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 211 Registered: 9-2008 |
While English spelling rules require certain letters to always follow/proceed another, those same letters to not appear in the right order in the alphabet? (If this is right, I have two such rules that meet the criteria.) | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1890 Registered: 12-2004 |
Kaygee: While English spelling rules require certain letters to always follow/proceed another, those same letters to not appear in the right order in the alphabet? (If this is right, I have two such rules that meet the criteria.) I'm not sure what exactly you mean, but this is not relevant to the puzzle. | ||
| Hietek (Hietek)
New member Username: Hietek Post Number: 18 Registered: 2-2009 |
would it be a letter in the word "scrund?" | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1917 Registered: 12-2004 |
Hietek: would it be a letter in the word "scrund?" Nope. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 223 Registered: 9-2008 |
So, maybe I was the only one who wondered why the alphabet didn't go like this: ...pqurst...! Are any grammar rules relevant? Did the scrund not affect you because no one ever found out about it? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1953 Registered: 12-2004 |
Kaygee: So, maybe I was the only one who wondered why the alphabet didn't go like this: ...pqurst...! Are any grammar rules relevant? No Did the scrund not affect you because no one ever found out about it? The scrund did not affect me because it never had any application in my life. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1954 Registered: 12-2004 |
Reminder: The letter in question is not part of a "word". It is being used in a different way. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1955 Registered: 12-2004 |
********RECAP*********** If a letter was different, the scrund would have probably affected me. 1. The letter is a letter of the alphabet. 2. The letter is not being used as part of a word. 3. The letter is one of the English (Roman) alphabet. 4. The letter is not "S". 5. The letter is not "C". 6. The letter is not "R". 7. The letter is not "U". 8. The letter is not "N". 9. The letter is not "D". 10. Grammar rules are not relevant. | ||
| Smartyllama (Smartyllama)
New member Username: Smartyllama Post Number: 38 Registered: 1-2009 |
Does this make use of a pun/play on words, for instance is the letter "I" and if an "eye" had been different, etc.? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1960 Registered: 12-2004 |
Smartyllama: Does this make use of a pun/play on words, for instance is the letter "I" and if an "eye" had been different, etc.? Nope. This is something that is generally symbolized with letters of the alphabet. | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 234 Registered: 1-2008 |
Roman numerals relevant? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1962 Registered: 12-2004 |
Howardwoman: Roman numerals relevant? Nope. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 224 Registered: 9-2008 |
The Periodic Table? Would you have tried to shake a little "S" on your french fries? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 227 Registered: 9-2008 |
Oops. You said it wasn't "S"...so maybe you would have put "P" on your baked potato? Ick - don't say that out loud! ;-P | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1963 Registered: 12-2004 |
Kaygee: The Periodic Table? Nope Would you have tried to shake a little "S" on your french fries? Nope Oops. You said it wasn't "S"...so maybe you would have put "P" on your baked potato? Nope. Ick - don't say that out loud! ;-P OK. | ||
| Smartyllama (Smartyllama)
New member Username: Smartyllama Post Number: 57 Registered: 1-2009 |
is the letter a grade that you got in school? Was it an F? B? A? (I know it wasn't a C or a D) | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1972 Registered: 12-2004 |
Smartyllama is the letter a grade that you got in school? Nope Was it an F? No B? No A? No (I know it wasn't a C or a D) | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2009 |
Well, since nobody else has gone through this, I might as well... Is the letter E? G? H? I? J? K? L? M? O? P? Q? T? V? W? X? Y? Z? You said that the scrund would only have had consequences if the letter was different. Does this mean that you would have done something that would have caused something else to happen if the letter was different? Would the scrund have affected you in a positive way? A negative way? Would it have affected you because a word would have sounded different? Because it would have been spelled differently? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1978 Registered: 12-2004 |
Kalira: Well, since nobody else has gone through this, I might as well... Is the letter E? G? H? I? J? K? L? M? O? P? Q? T? V? W? X? Y? This one Z? You said that the scrund would only have had consequences if the letter was different. Does this mean that you would have done something that would have caused something else to happen if the letter was different? Yope Would the scrund have affected you in a positive way? A negative way? Probably this one. Would it have affected you because a word would have sounded different? Nope. Because it would have been spelled differently? No. The letter is not part of a "word". | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1979 Registered: 12-2004 |
Oh, and by the way, welcome to the Lateral Thinking Puzzles Forum! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find useful: * Getting Started * User Guide * My Wikipedia User Subpage about the LTPF I hope you enjoy posting here and being a Lateral Puzzler! Please put your user name in the titles of your puzzles. If you need help, feel free to ask questions in the Chatroom. Again, welcome! | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 658 Registered: 12-2007 |
Are maths relevant? Does Y represent something? Was it written somewhere? If so, did you read it? Would the scrund have affected you if Y was any other letter? A specific one? A certain subset of the alphabet? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1988 Registered: 12-2004 |
Arek' Fu: Are maths relevant? No, but... Does Y represent something? I do believe that is the purpose of letters, yes. Was it written somewhere? No If so, did you read it? - Would the scrund have affected you if Y was any other letter? For the purpose this letter serves, I don't think there are very many other possibilities. A specific one? Yes A certain subset of the alphabet? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1989 Registered: 12-2004 |
Oh, and if you post a question and I don't answer it after like 30 minutes, I have probably spaced out or something. In that case, I recommend that you AIM or email me to wake me up. Forealzies. | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 308 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the fact that Y is a vowel relevant? That it's a consonant? Is the pronunciation of Y relevant? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2009 Registered: 12-2004 |
D Gordon: Is the fact that Y is a vowel relevant? No That it's a consonant? No Is the pronunciation of Y relevant? Nope. Perhaps because it is not being used as part of a word, it could just as easily be anything else used to stand for the relevant situation. It could just as easily be w, 7, or "It is the case that...[blah blah blah]" It is simply that what this stands for is most easily signified in a simple way by the letter "Y". | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 338 Registered: 11-2008 |
If Y was different, the scrund would have affected you? Different -- replaced by some other letter? Some other character that is not a letter? Is algebra relevant here? Some other field of mathematics? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2099 Registered: 12-2004 |
D. Gordon: If Y was different, the scrund would have affected you? That is very possible. Different -- replaced by some other letter? Yes Some other character that is not a letter? Nope Is algebra relevant here? Nope Some other field of mathematics? Not particularly | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2129 Registered: 12-2004 |
*************RECAP*and*HINT*************** 1. "The letter" is Y. 2. I had a certain misconception which remained undetected and uncorrected for a period of time. 3. If "the letter" were not Y, but, rather, a different letter, the subject of the misconception may have arisen, and I may have detected the misconception. | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 29 Registered: 2-2009 |
Hmm... genetics relevant? Specifically the chromosomes that affect gender? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2132 Registered: 12-2004 |
Kalira: Hmm... genetics relevant? Indeed Specifically the chromosomes that affect gender? Precisely! | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 31 Registered: 2-2009 |
So in other words, if you were female, this scrund would have had some kind of consequence for you? But you already had this scrund? Is the scrund related to something that only people of the female persuasion do? know? have? Or that they do/know/have more often than the male-types? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2135 Registered: 12-2004 |
Kalira: So in other words, if you were female, this scrund would have had some kind of consequence for you? Most likely. But you already had this scrund? Yes, but it was a passive scrund. Is the scrund related to something that only people of the female persuasion do? Yesish... know? Noish have? Yesish Or that they do/know/have more often than the male-types? Noishly yopish | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 42 Registered: 2-2009 |
Well THAT's a promising answer... Let's rephrase and see if that helps... Is the scrund related to something that women? or girls? do? know? have? more often? differently? than men? or boys? Wow that's a lot of question marks? Anything to do with clothing? Hair? Children? Feminism? Would I (being female) have this passive scrund? unless it were corrected by someone who had been enlightened as you were? Or would I instinctively know the truth about what you took for granted? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2153 Registered: 12-2004 |
Kalira: Well THAT's a promising answer... Let's rephrase and see if that helps... The scrund itself is rather random, but if you want to continue this puzzle further, have a ball. Is the scrund related to something that women? Yes or girls? Yesish do? Yesish know? Noish have? Yes more often? Strictly speaking, yes differently? Yesish than men? Yes or boys?</b>Yes</b> Wow that's a lot of question marks? Yes Anything to do with clothing? Yes Hair? No Children? Yope Feminism? Noish Would I (being female) have this passive scrund? It is possible unless it were corrected by someone who had been enlightened as you were? Yesish Or would I instinctively know the truth about what you took for granted? No | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 48 Registered: 2-2009 |
The few, the proud, the too damn stubborn to let it go... More often strictly speaking because males don't at all? Yopely about children = about pregnancy? Is it anything to do with maternity clothing? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2177 Registered: 12-2004 |
Kalira: More often strictly speaking because males don't at all? It depends on what exactly you are asking about. Yopely about children = about pregnancy? NoishIs it anything to do with maternity clothing? Not maternity clothing in particular, but... | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2178 Registered: 12-2004 |
A, B, C, D, E, F, G... | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 54 Registered: 2-2009 |
Which is sadly no longer the Hooked on Phonics number :-( And is that supposed to be a hint or are you just waiting for me to sing along? :-) Anything to do with mistaking non-pregnant women for pregnant ones? Is it about the relevant clothes in general (i.e. just the fact that they exist at all)? or how they're designed? made? marketed? sold? worn? altered? disposed of? Does it have to do with a specific material?style? article? of clothing? Does it have to do with dresses? pants? shirts? skirts? undergarments? outerwear? hats? footwear? accessories? nightwear? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2196 Registered: 12-2004 |
Kalira: Which is sadly no longer the Hooked on Phonics number :-( And is that supposed to be a hint or are you just waiting for me to sing along? :-) The former Anything to do with mistaking non-pregnant women for pregnant ones? Nope Is it about the relevant clothes in general (i.e. just the fact that they exist at all)? Noish or how they're designed? Sort of made? Noish marketed? Noish sold? Noish worn? Yopish altered? Noish disposed of? Noish Does it have to do with a specific material No style? No article? Yes of clothing? Yes Does it have to do with dresses? No pants? No shirts? No skirts? No undergarments? Yes outerwear? No hats? No footwear? No accessories? No nightwear? No | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 59 Registered: 2-2009 |
Okay, does it have to do with nursing bras? And how they're designed to allow women to nurse without having to remove the bra completely? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2204 Registered: 12-2004 |
Kalira: Okay, does it have to do with nursing bras? No, not specifically. And how they're designed to allow women to nurse without having to remove the bra completely? No. You may want to read the puzzle statement again. Or maybe not. | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 63 Registered: 2-2009 |
Now why would I do something so silly as pay attention to the puzzle statement, when it so obviously has absolutely nothing to do with the answer...</sheepish> ... ... Well, anyway, I guess my random out-of-left-field guess was not so successful. So is there something else alphabetical that could help me were my head not so thick and I could actually unravel the hint? Does the scrund have to do with T-shirts? G-strings? I don't think it's going to end up being either, but they're the only undergarments I can think of that have to do with the alphabet, so I guess it's at least worth asking. Anybody else have any ideas? 'cause I seem to be floundering a bit here... | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2208 Registered: 12-2004 |
Now why would I do something so silly as pay attention to the puzzle statement, when it so obviously has absolutely nothing to do with the answer...</sheepish> ... ... Well, anyway, I guess my random out-of-left-field guess was not so successful. Remember, I told you that this scrund was very random and that I was not intending on having anyone try to figure out what it was. So is there something else alphabetical that could help me were my head not so thick and I could actually unravel the hint? Yes. Something to do with female undergarments and certain letters of the alphabet, such as A, B, and C. Does the scrund have to do with T-shirts? Nope G-strings? Nah I don't think it's going to end up being either, but they're the only undergarments I can think of that have to do with the alphabet, so I guess it's at least worth asking. She who asks a "silly" question appears a fool for a minute, but she who does not ask is a fool forever. Anybody else have any ideas? 'cause I seem to be floundering a bit here... I'm sure if one knows me well enough, he or she will be able to figure out what the scrund relates to. However, it may be a tad bit more difficult to determine the exact misconception I, and, probably, some other people, had about it. | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 978 Registered: 9-2003 |
Are cup size of bras relevant to this puzzle? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2217 Registered: 12-2004 |
Haenlomal: Are cup size of bras relevant to this puzzle? Not very much to my original puzzle (which has already been solved), but very much so to the scrund upon which it is based, which seems to be what Kalira is trying to determine now. | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 414 Registered: 11-2008 |
That they went through the whole alphabet? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2218 Registered: 12-2004 |
D Gordon: That they went through the whole alphabet? Nope. However, I'm sure that you know me well enough now that you could quickly skim some sort of internet reference for information regarding scrunds people might have about Brassiere measurements. Or, failing that, you might just do a search in a popular search engine with a query vaguely similar to the following: "brassiere measurements" "common misconception" In any case, the true lateral puzzle was solved quite some time ago, and I am just trying to decide which puzzle in my queue I should unleash next... | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 108 Registered: 2-2009 |
Well, in order to speed along your new puzzling, is the scrund related to the fact that cup sizes in bras are not consistent across band sizes, but are in fact relative to the band size (i.e. a D-cup in a 36 does not hold the same volume as a D-cup in a 40)? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 2264 Registered: 12-2004 |
************SPOILER*************** Kalira: Well, in order to speed along your new puzzling, is the scrund related to the fact that cup sizes in bras are not consistent across band sizes, but are in fact relative to the band size (i.e. a D-cup in a 36 does not hold the same volume as a D-cup in a 40)? Ding ding ding! We have a winner! If a letter was different, and my genetic material was XX instead of XY, the scrund would have probably affected me. But, it seems, the letters are actually different. But different letters are different with different numbers. And so on. What? |
