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Spackspartan (Spackspartan)
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Bob wrote the book. He died. Mary read the book. Her husband died.
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Bob = he?
Bob = Mary's husband?
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Bob = he? yes
Bob = Mary's husband? no, that would be way too easy
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Did writing the book cause bob's death? Did the act of reading the book cause Mary's husbands death? or was it something she read in the book that did it? Was it a guide to suicide? Humane euthanasia (ie for the critically ill)

Is it significant that mary didn't die?
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Did Bob and Mary's husband both die before age 120?
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Did Mary kill her husband?
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Did writing the book cause bob's death? not directly Did the act of reading the book cause Mary's husbands death? not directly or was it something she read in the book that did it? more closely this one Was it a guide to suicide? Humane euthanasia (ie for the critically ill) no to these two, but you're on the right track

Is it significant that mary didn't die? somewhat
Did Bob and Mary's husband both die before age 120? they're ages are irrelevant, but assume yes, because old age was not a factor

Did Mary kill her husband? yes
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Did Mary kill Bob?
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Did Bob did after Mary read the book?
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sorry,I meant to ask "did Bob die after..."
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Did Mary kill Bob? no

Did Bob did after Mary read the book? huh? sorry,I meant to ask "did Bob die after..." oh, yes, Bob died after Mary read the book. This is an important detail
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Did the book involve the Spanish Inquisition? Was it a novel? Was it a novel book? Was the book a matchbook?
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Is it a book of laws? Was Mary's husband killed because of those laws?

Was Bob's death the result of good intentiions? Was mary's husbands? would most puzzlers here consider their deaths immoral?

Are cults relevant? location relevant? year? illness? bacteria? virus? food? allergies? medication? the wrong medication?

Was it a guide to arsenic poisioning?
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Did the book involve the Spanish Inquisition? Was it a novel? this one, no to the rest, Beware FA however. Was it a novel book? Was the book a matchbook?

Is it a book of laws? Was Mary's husband killed because of those laws? no to these

Was Bob's death the result of good intentiions? no Was mary's husbands? no would most puzzlers here consider their deaths immoral? most, if not all

Are cults relevant? location relevant? year? illness? bacteria? virus? food? allergies? medication? the wrong medication? none of these

Was it a guide to arsenic poisioning? no but you're OTRT
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Was Bob murdered ?
Was the book something like "How to kill your husband"?

If Bob was murdered was it revenge for Mary's husband's death? Are there any other relevant people involved?

Did Mary kill her husband for revenge? greed? due to infidelity? if infidelity her's? Her husband's?

Did Mary know Bob personally? Were they lovers? Did Bob plan that by writing the book Mary's husband would be murdered?
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....foolproof relevant? Don't want to sp0!l if I know it...
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Just to check, book(1) = book(2)? Was Bob's book based on a true story? Was the book Mary read based on a true story?

Would Mary have killed her husband if she had not read the book? Did Mary's husband know Bob personally?

Did Bob die before his book was published? after? relevant? Would Bob's death most likely be ruled by the coroner as accidental? suicide? murder? natural causes?
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Was Bob murdered ? yes
Was the book something like "How to kill your husband"? no, but you're on the right track

If Bob was murdered was it revenge for Mary's husband's death? no, and you would be hard to be farther from the truth Are there any other relevant people involved? no

Did Mary kill her husband for revenge? greed? due to infidelity? if infidelity her's? Her husband's? irrelevant

Did Mary know Bob personally? yes Were they lovers? no Did Bob plan that by writing the book Mary's husband would be murdered? no
Just to check, book(1) = book(2)? yes Was Bob's book based on a true story? irrelevant Was the book Mary read based on a true story? irrelevant

Would Mary have killed her husband if she had not read the book? no Did Mary's husband know Bob personally? irrelevant

Did Bob die before his book was published? after? relevant? no, and very important FA </b.> murder, per above
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Was Bob's book published at all?
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....foolproof relevant? Don't want to sp0!l if I know it... what do you mean? Was Bob's book published at all? no
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Did Bob write the book for Mary? Did he intend anyone else to read it?
Did Bob intend his book to be published?
Did Bob die after Mary killed her husband?
Were Bob and Mary related?
Did Bob know when he wrote the book that it would indirectly cause anyone to die? cause his own death? cause Mary's husband's death?
Did Bob want Mary to die after reading the book?
Is Bob's murderer a fourth character (as opposed to one of the three mentioned)? Is the murderer H?A?M?
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I thought of more...

If it's very far from the truth that Bob's murder was revenge for Mary's husband's death, is it the other way round? Was the husband's murder revenge for Bob's death? Did the husband kill Bob?
Can we call the husband Colin?
Do we need to know any personal details about Colin? Did Mary want to kill Colin before she read the book?
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Did Bob write the book for Mary? noish Did he intend anyone else to read it? yes
Did Bob intend his book to be published? yes
Did Bob die after Mary killed her husband? no
Were Bob and Mary related? if you mean were they family, no. But there is a relative relationship between them.
Did Bob know when he wrote the book that it would indirectly cause anyone to die? no cause his own death? cause Mary's husband's death? so no to these
Did Bob want Mary to die after reading the book? no
Is Bob's murderer a fourth character (as opposed to one of the three mentioned)? no Is the murderer H?A?M? Human and adult, but not male

I thought of more...

If it's very far from the truth that Bob's murder was revenge for Mary's husband's death, is it the other way round? no Was the husband's murder revenge for Bob's death? so no Did the husband kill Bob? no
Can we call the husband Colin? sure
Do we need to know any personal details about Colin? only that Mary wanted to kill him and did so Did Mary want to kill Colin before she read the book? yes, but be wary of FA
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So to clarify: Mary killed Bob? After reading the book? And before killing Colin?
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Sorry, just saw your earlier answer that Mary did not kill Bob. But Bob was killed before Colin, and also by a female? Had Bob's murderer read the book?
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So to clarify: Mary killed Bob? see below After reading the book? And before killing Colin?

Sorry, just saw your earlier answer that Mary did not kill Bob. But Bob was killed before Colin, and also by a female? Had Bob's murderer read the book?

***** BLOOPER ALERT*****
Mary did indeed kill Bob. Sorry
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Did reading the book provide Mary with motive for murder? Opportunity? Method?

Was her motive the same for both murders? And method? Relevant?

Does she intend to pass the book off as her own work? Or does she kill Bob to prevent it being published?
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So Mary read the book, then killed Bob, then killed Colin? Just checking.

Did Bob finish writing the book? Was it his death that prevented it from being published?
Would Mary have killed Colin if she had not killed Bob first? ie. was it something like that Colin saw her killing Bob so she had to kill him to stop him from talking?
Was the book some kind of biography? autobiography? memoirs?
Did, in reading the book, Mary find out any information about Bob? about Colin?
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was it a crime novel? And she took some ideas from it, concerning the method, for example? Was Bob Mary's lover? If so, did he reveal in the book some details of their relationship, and she killed both him and her husband?
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Good day everyone, I e-mailed Spackspartan with the correct solution, and he informed me that he is unable to access the forum at the moment. To that end he has asked if I will finish the puzzle for him so I will get onto it soonest. Thanks for your patience. Martin
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Did reading the book provide Mary with motive for murder? No Opportunity?No Method? Yes

Was her motive the same for both murders? No And method? Yes Relevant? Yes

Does she intend to pass the book off as her own work? No Or does she kill Bob to prevent it being published? Yes

So Mary read the book, then killed Bob, then killed Colin? Just checking. the order of death is not strictly relevant

Did Bob finish writing the book? Yes Was it his death that prevented it from being published? Not exactly but ORT
Would Mary have killed Colin if she had not killed Bob first? possibly ie. was it something like that Colin saw her killing Bob so she had to kill him to stop him from talking? No
Was the book some kind of biography? No autobiography? No memoirs? No
Did, in reading the book, Mary find out any information about Bob? No about Colin No

was it a crime novel? Yes And she took some ideas from it, concerning the method, for example? Yes Was Bob Mary's lover? No If so, did he reveal in the book some details of their relationship, and she killed both him and her husband? So No
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Here is a vague theory, are any bits of it correct?
Mary wanted to kill her husband, but didn't know how to do it without being caught.
Her friend Bob wrote a crime novel and asked her to read it to see if she thought it was good.
She read the book and decided to use the murder method in it to kill her husband.
But if the book was published, everyone would read the method and know it was Mary who had done the murder.
So she first killed Bob so that he would not try and publish his book (using this same method).
And then she killed her husband with this method.
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Here is a vague theory, are any bits of it correct?
Mary wanted to kill her husband, but didn't know how to do it without being caught.
Her friend Bob wrote a crime novel and asked her to read it to see if she thought it was good.
She read the book and decided to use the murder method in it to kill her husband.
But if the book was published, everyone would read the method and know it was Mary who had done the murder.
So she first killed Bob so that he would not try and publish his book (using this same method).
And then she killed her husband with this method.

Thats good enough for a *****SPOILER*****
Mary was very unhappy in her marriage and decided enough was enough and wanted her husband dead! However she did not want to spend the rest of her life in prison, so was looking for a foolproof murder method. Enter Bob. Bob was a budding author although had not had much success in getting his novels published. He submitted his latest draft to his publisher, who just happened to be Mary! Upon reading the draft Mary realised that his method in the novel was indeed foolproof and would allow her to literally get away with murder. However there was a loose end in that Bob would, if he heard details of the murder on the news, deduce that it was his fictional method and all would be lost....so he too had to die, via presumably the same method.

Thanks on behalf of Spackspartan for playing.
Martin
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I had so much fun with finishing that I have my own puzzle going on down the page
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Great puzzle. It has that classic lateral-ness about it.

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