| Author | Message | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1038 Registered: 8-2001 |
If it's good for you, why must you be told over and over. | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 106 Registered: 5-2009 |
Do I forget it's good for me? Good for me, health wise? Vegetables? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1046 Registered: 8-2001 |
Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle): Do I forget it's good for me? Hopefully not Good for me, health wise? Indirectly, so let's say no to keep the confusion to a dull roar Vegetables? no | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 226 Registered: 3-2009 |
Is it good for you: Mentally? Physically? Financially? Is it something tangible? Are you being told over and over because you need reminded? Because it's being sold to you? Because it's unpleasant? Because you keep putting off using or doing it? Are "you" H/A/M? Are any of those factors relevant? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1050 Registered: 8-2001 |
Absinthe (Absinthe): Is it good for you: Mentally? This one Physically? Financially? Indirectly could be these too Is it something tangible? No Are you being told over and over because you need reminded? I would hope not, but it seems so Because it's being sold to you? no Because it's unpleasant? Because you keep putting off using or doing it? no to both Are "you" H/A/M? Are any of those factors relevant?You must be human as far as I know, but the rest is not relevant | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 228 Registered: 3-2009 |
Is it related to puzzle-solving, or any mental processes involved in puzzle-solving? I ask because of "I would hope [you don't need reminded], but it seems so", which you said in response to me asking essentially the same question as one Pika asked. Is it good for you because: it prevents insanity/maintains sanity? Cures insanity? Prevents senile dementia? Improves mental faculties? Increases knowledge? Makes you feel good? Is sanity relevant? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1051 Registered: 8-2001 |
Absinthe (Absinthe): Is it related to puzzle-solving, or any mental processes involved in puzzle-solving?Yesish, but misleading I ask because of "I would hope [you don't need reminded], but it seems so", which you said in response to me asking essentially the same question as one Pika asked. I meant 'you' generically and not specifically Is it good for you because: it prevents insanity/maintains sanity? Cures insanity? Prevents senile dementia? Improves mental faculties? this one Increases knowledge? Makes you feel good? these also Is sanity relevant? no | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 229 Registered: 3-2009 |
Haha, I figured you were being generic, but I felt it was worth mentioning in case this was related to something one might say or do when attempting to solve a lateral thinking puzzle. Is it related to learning? Are the mental faculties being improved: Intelligence? Memory? Perception? Imagination? Language? Problem solving? Is it relevant who is "telling you over and over"? If so: is it yourself? A teacher? Friends and family? Society? A book or other media? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1053 Registered: 8-2001 |
Absinthe (Absinthe): Haha, I figured you were being generic, but I felt it was worth mentioning in case this was related to something one might say or do when attempting to solve a lateral thinking puzzle. Is it related to learning? yes Are the mental faculties being improved: Intelligence? Memory? Perception? Imagination? Language? Problem solving? Could be any of these Is it relevant who is "telling you over and over"? Not specifically If so: is it yourself? A teacher? Friends and family? Society? A book This or other media? Not that I know of | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 232 Registered: 3-2009 |
When you say it could be any of those mental faculties, do you mean it can always be any of them, or that the specific ones being improved vary depending on circumstances? Is the book about learning? Is the book teaching you something? "It's good for you" = what the book is telling you over and over? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1055 Registered: 8-2001 |
Absinthe (Absinthe): When you say it could be any of those mental faculties, do you mean it can always be any of them, or that the specific ones being improved vary depending on circumstances? yes, either or both Is the book about learning? Is the book teaching you something? Could be either "It's good for you" = what the book is telling you over and over? No, not really that part | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 147 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is any sacred text relevant? Are "you" being reminded to study? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1065 Registered: 8-2001 |
Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle): Is any sacred text relevant? Are "you" being reminded to study? no to both | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 17 Registered: 5-2009 |
Random thought - Is the book a dictionary? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1069 Registered: 8-2001 |
Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy): Random thought - Is the book a dictionary? no | ||
| Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles)
New member Username: Caesarachilles Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is it a specific book? Multi-volume work? A specific collection of works? If relevant, a collection related by: Subject? Author? Date written? Writing style? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1073 Registered: 8-2001 |
Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles): Is it a specific book? no Multi-volume work? A specific collection of works? If relevant, a collection related by: Subject? Author? Date written? Writing style?none of these. | ||
| Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles)
New member Username: Caesarachilles Post Number: 14 Registered: 5-2009 |
If "it" is good for you, is the absense/opposite of "it" bad? Or just neutral? Is it relevant what kind of book it is? Is it relevant how you are being "told over and over"? Is the book common? Rare? Is it even relevant how many people own/have acces to the book? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1076 Registered: 8-2001 |
Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles): If "it" is good for you, is the absense/opposite of "it" bad? Or just neutral? it is not detrimental per se....limiting is a better term Is it relevant what kind of book it is? not really Is it relevant how you are being "told over and over"? yes Is the book common? Rare? Is it even relevant how many people own/have acces to the book?no to all, FA...there is no specific book | ||
| Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles)
New member Username: Caesarachilles Post Number: 19 Registered: 5-2009 |
Are you being told with text? Pictures or other graphical representation? Photographs? Symbols (such as math, chemical formulas, etc.)? Is the subject of the book relevant? If so: Math? Science? History? Health? Philosophy?Self-Improvement? Entertainment? Picture? News? Culture? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1079 Registered: 8-2001 |
Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles): Are you being told with text? yes Pictures or other graphical representation? Photographs? Symbols (such as math, chemical formulas, etc.)? no to the rest Is the subject of the book relevant? no If so: Math? Science? History? Health? Philosophy?Self-Improvement? Entertainment? Picture? News? Culture? | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 76 Registered: 3-2009 |
Is it something you (should) do? (e.g. exercize daily) Or is it a particular state of mind? (e.g. maintain a positive attitude) Is a prescription to refrain from certain things? (e.g. drink only in moderation) If it is something you do, should it be done on regular basis? Or on an occasional basis? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1087 Registered: 8-2001 |
Davesnothere (Davesnothere): Is it something you (should) do? probably, but not life-threatening if you don't(e.g. exercize daily) Or is it a particular state of mind? not really this(e.g. maintain a positive attitude) Is a prescription to refrain from certain things? (e.g. drink only in moderation) no If it is something you do, should it be done on regular basis? This is most likely, but not required Or on an occasional basis? | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 105 Registered: 3-2009 |
Must one perform a physical activity to do this? Does it involve certain thoughts? What is the recommended frequency -- annually, monthly, weekly, daily, hourly, every minute? Are there many books that tell you to do this? Or is the recommendation to do this brought up multiple times in a single book? Is the failure to do this considered a vice? Is self-control required to do this? Do most people do this as much as they should? | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 106 Registered: 3-2009 |
Does it involve other people? Or is it a solitary activity? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1092 Registered: 8-2001 |
Davesnothere (Davesnothere): Must one perform a physical activity to do this? barely...very little Does it involve certain thoughts? no What is the recommended frequency -- annually, monthly, weekly, daily, hourly, every minute? varies, but most people do this multiple times each day Are there many books that tell you to do this? most certainly Or is the recommendation to do this brought up multiple times in a single book? this can happen too...FA, lurking, so.... HINT: The thing you are told over and over is NOT to do the thing that is so good for you, but is related to that activity Is the failure to do this considered a vice? no Is self-control required to do this? very little Do most people do this as much as they should? probably not Does it involve other people? this is not uncommon Or is it a solitary activity? most often this | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 130 Registered: 3-2009 |
Multiple times per day -- what is typical 3? 10? 30? 100? 300+? Are people normally conscious of when they do this? Does involve eating, breathing, blinking, listening, looking, smelling, swallowing, thinking, assuming body postures, digestion, elimination, circulation, touching, feeling, getting dressed, sitting, sleeping, waking up, working, playing. Does it primarily involve the mental? Physical? If mental, does it involve deductive reasoning, regulating emotions, adopting certain attitudes, memory, remembering not to forget, forgetting to remember, knowing things? You had mentioned learning -- does it relate to teaching, reading? By learning, do you mean in the classic sense such as the accumulation of more information? The refinement of ability? The accumulation of wisdom? If physical, does it involve certain body parts? Are there certain trite phrases that relate to this, e.g. look before you leap? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1098 Registered: 8-2001 |
Davesnothere (Davesnothere): Multiple times per day -- what is typical 3? 10? 30? 100? 300+? highly variable...I'm going say about 200 Are people normally conscious of when they do this? yes Does involve eating, breathing, blinking, listening, lookingthis one, smelling, swallowing, thinkingthis too, assuming body postures, digestion, elimination, circulation, touching, feeling, getting dressed, sittingcould be this one, sleeping, waking up, workingthis one, playing this one. Does it primarily involve the mental? this one Physical? a little of this If mental, does it involve deductive reasoning, regulating emotions, adopting certain attitudes, memory, remembering not to forget, forgetting to remember, knowing things? all of these You had mentioned learning -- does it relate to teaching, reading This is it! ? By learning, do you mean in the classic sense such as the accumulation of more information? The refinement of ability? The accumulation of wisdom? If physical, does it involve certain body parts? yes Are there certain trite phrases that relate to this, e.g. look before you leap? they abound Ok, so how are you reminded over and over? | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 136 Registered: 3-2009 |
Look up thick in the dictionary and they have a picture of my skull. Ok, so let me see if I have the first part right. The thing that is good for you is reading in general? Or is it to read the directions, and the first step is often "Read the Directions"? Is it certain text that is preceded by "Notice", to instruct you to notice and therefore read the text? As to the trite phrases, might they be "Leaders are readers", or "RTFM"? Is the telling over and over related to getting your attention so that you will read something that its author (or sponsor) wishes you to read? Is the instruction to read direct ("be sure to read something today"), or indirect ("open your eyes and see where they take you")? When told over and over, is the instruction delivered visually? verbally? though some other sense (nudge nudge)? Is the instruction delivered using english words? One word (read!), Two words (read more!), Three words (you illiterate dolt!)? Is the instruction usually delivered by one form of media? (what are you doing watching this TV - you should be reading) While we read 200 times per day, how often is this instruction delivered per day? 1, 3, 10, 30, 100, 300? Is the solution that people often begin sentences with the word, "Look, ...", or "You see, ..."? Anything like this? Of all of the questions I've just asked, which one represents the most fruitful line of inquiry? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1099 Registered: 8-2001 |
Davesnothere (Davesnothere): Look up thick in the dictionary and they have a picture of my skull. Ok, so let me see if I have the first part right. The thing that is good for you is reading in general? yes Or is it to read the directions, and the first step is often "Read the Directions"? no Is it certain text that is preceded by "Notice", to instruct you to notice and therefore read the text? no As to the trite phrases, might they be "Leaders are readers", or "RTFM"? no Is the telling over and over related to getting your attention so that you will read something that its author (or sponsor) wishes you to read? no Is the instruction to read direct ("be sure to read something today"), or indirect ("open your eyes and see where they take you")? no When told over and over, is the instruction delivered visually? this one verbally? though some other sense (nudge nudge)? Is the instruction delivered using english words? yes One word (read!), Two words (read more!), Three words (you illiterate dolt!)? could be any of these Is the instruction usually delivered by one form of media? (what are you doing watching this TV - you should be reading) yes While we read 200 times per day, how often is this instruction delivered per day? 1, 3, 10, 30, 100, 300? impossible to day, depends on the person and the circumstances Is the solution that people often begin sentences with the word, "Look, ...", or "You see, ..."? Anything like this? no Of all of the questions I've just asked, which one represents the most fruitful line of inquiry? the part about the thick skull, but seriously folks...I guess that the message is delivered visually...although I am only supposed to give you yes/no answers, hm? | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 148 Registered: 3-2009 |
My opinion on the yes/no thing is that it is legitimate to construct a "meta" or compound question that contains a number of yes/no questions within it. Rather than going through the tedium of asking and answering each of these yes or no questions, one can serve up the suite and ask which one can be aswered yes. Of course, I could be wrong. This is probably a better topic for the chatroom. The message is delivered visually by one form of media, correct? Is the message delivered in the form of text? Graphics? Is the form of media paper with text and graphics printed on it? Some kind of video screen? Printing on objects? Signs? Is the message delivered as part of an advertisement? Is there a single sponsor or family of sponsors of these messages? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1101 Registered: 8-2001 |
Davesnothere (Davesnothere): My opinion on the yes/no thing is that it is legitimate to construct a "meta" or compound question that contains a number of yes/no questions within it. Rather than going through the tedium of asking and answering each of these yes or no questions, one can serve up the suite and ask which one can be aswered yes. Of course, I could be wrong. This is probably a better topic for the chatroom. indeed The message is delivered visually by one form of media, correct? yes Is the message delivered in the form of text? this one Graphics? Is the form of media paper with text and graphics printed on it? yes Some kind of video screen? Printing on objects? Signs? no to the rest Is the message delivered as part of an advertisement? no Is there a single sponsor or family of sponsors of these messages? no | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 185 Registered: 3-2009 |
Can I get a clarification -- I had previously asked, "Is the instruction to read direct ("be sure to read something today"), or indirect ("open your eyes and see where they take you")?" You had answered no to the "indirect" phrase. Is the instruction to read direct? Often, text will be preceded by the word "Notice", or "Note". Is this it? The form of media is printed paper -- is it one particular kind of printed paper, e.g., newspapers, or books, or flyers? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1102 Registered: 8-2001 |
Davesnothere (Davesnothere): Can I get a clarification -- I had previously asked, "Is the instruction to read direct ("be sure to read something today"), or indirect ("open your eyes and see where they take you")?" There is an FA lurking here...the instruction is not to read You had answered no to the "indirect" phrase. Is the instruction to read direct? There is an FA lurking here...the instruction is not to read Often, text will be preceded by the word "Notice", or "Note". Is this it? no The form of media is printed paper -- is it one particular kind of printed paper, e.g., newspapers, or books this one, or flyers? | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 206 Registered: 3-2009 |
Is the instruction typically found in a particular section of the book? Is the instruction usually phrased as an imperative sentence? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1104 Registered: 8-2001 |
Davesnothere (Davesnothere): Is the instruction typically found in a particular section of the book? yesish Is the instruction usually phrased as an imperative sentence?no | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 248 Registered: 3-2009 |
GRRR -- I posted follow up questions a couple of days ago and they're gone. Relevant section of book: cover, table of contents, front section before Chapter 1, chapters, index, back cover, inside cover, spine, page intentionally blank, other? Is the instruction in most books? Only certain kinds of books? Is the text in question intended to be interpreted as giving the instruction? Or is it intended to communicate something else? Does the instruction include a verb? While the instruction is not to read, is it to engage in a visual activity? Mental activity? Physical activity, like opening a book, turning a page, etc.? Sounds like the instruction is in various words and phrases, correct? Is there a typical or frequent phrasing? Is it usually a single word? 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 words? The instruction is written in english words? Correctly spelled? With correct punctuation and spacing? Is wordplay relevant? Is the instruction embedded in longer words? For example, the word "see" is embedded in "Tennessee". Anything like this? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1110 Registered: 8-2001 |
Davesnothere (Davesnothere): GRRR -- I posted follow up questions a couple of days ago and they're gone. No idea what went wrong Relevant section of book: cover, table of contents, front section before Chapter 1, chapters, this one index, back cover, inside cover, spine, page intentionally blank, other? Is the instruction in most books? yes Only certain kinds of books? books for very young people generally do not have it Is the text in question intended to be interpreted as giving the instruction? yesish Or is it intended to communicate something else? no Does the instruction include a verb? sometimes While the instruction is not to read, is it to engage in a visual activity? no Mental activity? Physical activity, like opening a book, turning a page, etc.? no to all Sounds like the instruction is in various words and phrases, correct? yes Is there a typical or frequent phrasing? no Is it usually a single word? 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 words? can be any of these The instruction is written in english words? yes Correctly spelled? yes With correct punctuation and spacing? yes Is wordplay relevant? could be, but if it is, not relevant Is the instruction embedded in longer words? no For example, the word "see" is embedded in "Tennessee". Anything like this? no | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 274 Registered: 3-2009 |
The instruction is not to engage in either a physical activity, nor a mental activity, correct? Can I then conclude that the verb does not relate to either to physical or mental action? Does the verb relate to a state of being? Is the instruction to adopt a certain state of being? | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 275 Registered: 3-2009 |
Is the reason that books for very young people do not have it because they do not contain words? Or because the language is so simple that the instruction is not included? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1111 Registered: 8-2001 |
Davesnothere (Davesnothere): The instruction is not to engage in either a physical activity, nor a mental activity, correct? yes Can I then conclude that the verb does not relate to either to physical or mental action? you may conclude that there may not be a verb at all Does the verb relate to a state of being? see above Is the instruction to adopt a certain state of being? no Is the reason that books for very young people do not have it because they do not contain words? no Or because the language is so simple that the instruction is not included? no HINT: The instruction is informational only | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 287 Registered: 3-2009 |
Page numbers relevant? Chapters? Blank pages? "This page left intentionally blank"? "Continued". Is the instruction in the body text? In labels to pictures, tables, and other items? Must a book have a certain item in order for it to have this instruction? Related to indexes? Tables? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1119 Registered: 8-2001 |
Davesnothere (Davesnothere): Page numbers relevant? no Chapters? no Blank pages? no "This page left intentionally blank"? no "Continued". no, but keep going, you'll figure it out.. Is the instruction in the body text? no In labels to pictures, no tables, and other items? no Must a book have a certain item in order for it to have this instruction? no Related to indexes? no Tables? no You are on the right track...keep plugging away. Great questions! | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 295 Registered: 3-2009 |
"go to page x" Footnotes? Just to confirm, the instruction is in the "chapters" sections of the book meaning the body and bulk of the book between the Table of Contents and the index? Latin phrases relevant? Is the instruction usually punctuated a prescribed way? It it usually located in the top 1.5 inch section of the page? Bottom 1.5 inch section? Middle section between these sections? Is it located at the beginning of a chapter? End of a chapter? In the middle of a chapter? Will it occur multiple times in a single book? Single chapter? Single paragraph? You said no to being in the body text -- is it located in parentheses? In a paragraph? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1125 Registered: 8-2001 |
Davesnothere (Davesnothere): "go to page x" no Footnotes? no Just to confirm, the instruction is in the "chapters" sections of the book meaning the body and bulk of the book between the Table of Contents and the index? yes Latin phrases relevant? no Is the instruction usually punctuated a prescribed way? no It it usually located in the top 1.5 inch section of the page? this one Bottom 1.5 inch section? Middle section between these sections? Is it located at the beginning of a chapter? yes End of a chapter? yes In the middle of a chapter? yes Will it occur multiple times in a single book? yes Single chapter? yes Single paragraph? no You said no to being in the body text -- is it located in parentheses? In a paragraph? no to both | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 154 Registered: 6-2009 |
Is it something that is at the top of every page? Every other page? Only certain pages? Anything to do with the page numbers? The practice of putting the title and/or author's name and/or chapter title at the top of pages? | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 298 Registered: 3-2009 |
Often a book has the title of the chapter at the top of the right hand pages, and the title of the book at the top of the left hand page. Is it one of these? Is it the book title? Is this what is being told over and over? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1129 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ohlala8 (Ohlala8): Is it something that is at the top of every page? yes Every other page? no Only certain pages? no Anything to do with the page numbers? no The practice of putting the title this one and/or author's name and/or chapter title at the top of pages? no Davesnothere (Davesnothere): Often a book has the title of the chapter at the top of the right hand pages, and the title of the book at the top of the left hand page. Is it one of these? yes Is it the book title? yes Is this what is being told over and over? yes $poyler to follow | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 1130 Registered: 8-2001 |
********* SPOILER ********** This puzzle is based on a bit by the comic genius of Brian Regan. It comes from his comic DVD called Epitome of Hyperbole. The bit goes like this: If reading makes you smart, then how come when you read a book, they have to put the title of the book on the top of every single page in that book? Does anyone ever get halfway through reading a book....What the &^$# am I reading? Oh it's right there at the top....ok....I forget again!.....oh it's right there...woah that is handy... I don't....I don't know what I-...yes I do, yes I do now...that's good, I don't want to have to go all the way back to the cover. Didn't know what I was readin'. Did't know what I was readin'. Knew I was readin' something, didn't know what. Thanks so much for the great questions! |
