| Author | Message | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 27 Registered: 5-2009 |
She liked her best friend so much she killed her. | ||
| Yabblesmacker (Yabblesmacker)
New member Username: Yabblesmacker Post Number: 90 Registered: 4-2009 |
She=she? Best friend=her? Both HAF? Because they're both female and it could get confusing, can we call the main one Susan and the best friend Lily? Did Susan specifically plan to murder Lily? Was it a sudden impulse? Or was it just an accident? Did she actually physically kill Lily or just cause her death through her actions? Did Susan kill Lily to protect her from something (a fate worse than death)? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 28 Registered: 5-2009 |
She=she? Best friend=her? Both HAF? yes to all Because they're both female and it could get confusing, can we call the main one Susan and the best friend Lily? yes Did Susan specifically plan to murder Lily?no Was it a sudden impulse? yope Or was it just an accident? yes Did she actually physically kill Lily or just cause her death through her actions? that one Did Susan kill Lily to protect her from something (a fate worse than death)? no | ||
| Cicido (Cicido)
New member Username: Cicido Post Number: 23 Registered: 5-2009 |
Did Susan want Lily dead? Injured? Hurt? Are there any other relevant characters? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 29 Registered: 5-2009 |
Did Susan want Lily dead? Injured? Hurt?no to all Are there any other relevant characters?yes | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1144 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are the relevant character(s) H/M/F? One, two, or more? Friends? Relatives? Acquaintances? Coworkers? Strangers? Is the location relevant? The time period? Was Lily killed by piercing damage? Slashing? Blunt force? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 39 Registered: 5-2009 |
Are the relevant character(s) H/M/F?they're HAM One, two, or more?just 1 Friends? Relatives? Acquaintances? Coworkers? Strangers? this Is the location relevant?yes The time period? no Was Lily killed by piercing damage? Slashing? Blunt force?none of these | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 264 Registered: 10-2008 |
Are all three in the same place at the time of Lily's death? Are all withing a mile of each other? Does she die in a building? Outside? In a car? Underwater? So there's one adult man relevant? Does he directly kill Lily? Is he present at Lily's death? Does Susan perform an act to cause Lily's death? Say something? Fail to do something? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 41 Registered: 5-2009 |
Are all three in the same place at the time of Lily's death?pretty much Are all withing a mile of each other?yes Does she die in a building?this Outside? In a car? Underwater? So there's one adult man relevant? doesn't take a genius to work that outDoes he directly kill Lily?no Is he present at Lily's death?yes Does Susan perform an act to cause Lily's death?this Say something? Fail to do something? | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 23 Registered: 6-2009 |
Does the man present intend to do harm to Lily? Does Susan think he does? Is he trying to save her? Does Susan think he is? Is he a completely passive observer? Does his presence, regardless of his actions, cause Susan to kill Lily? If he had not been present, is there any way Lily would have died in this way? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 50 Registered: 5-2009 |
Does the man present intend to do harm to Lily? Does Susan think he does? Is he trying to save her? Does Susan think he is?no to all of those Is he a completely passive observer? pretty muchDoes his presence, regardless of his actions, cause Susan to kill Lily?it's mainly his acions If he had not been present, is there any way Lily would have died in this way?yes | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 25 Registered: 6-2009 |
Killed= directly took away Lily's life through violent means, poison, or some other method, beyond any hope of recovery such as cryogenics, CPR, or electric shock? Liked= Susan enjoyed Lily's company, thought she was a worthwhile person, and under normal circumstances would rather she was alive than dead? If Susan had liked Lily less, would Lily be alive? Would Lily have agreed with Susan's motives in killing her? Would she have been grateful to be killed? Did Susan believe Lily would have agreed with her motives/been grateful? | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 26 Registered: 6-2009 |
Also, did Lily have any idea that Susan was going to kill her? Was this a contingency plan they made together in advance? Did she ask Susan to kill her a la Dumbledore and Snape? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 53 Registered: 5-2009 |
Killed= directly took away Lily's life through violent means, poison, or some other method, beyond any hope of recovery such as cryogenics, CPR, or electric shock? yesish Liked= Susan enjoyed Lily's company, thought she was a worthwhile person, and under normal circumstances would rather she was alive than dead? yes If Susan had liked Lily less, would Lily be alive?this is correct Would Lily have agreed with Susan's motives in killing her? Would she have been grateful to be killed? Did Susan believe Lily would have agreed with her motives/been grateful?the rest is a big FA! | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 30 Registered: 6-2009 |
Okay, so is the FA that Susan had a motive for killing Lily? Was Susan mentally ill? Hypnotized? Tricked? Was she trying to do something else, and Lily's death was the unintended result? Does she make a false assumption based on the man's actions that causes her to accidentally kill Lily? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 54 Registered: 5-2009 |
Okay, so is the FA that Susan had a motive for killing Lily?yes Was Susan mentally ill? Hypnotized? Tricked? Was she trying to do something else, and Lily's death was the unintended result? yes Does she make a false assumption based on the man's actions that causes her to accidentally kill Lily? no, but OTRT | ||
| Yabblesmacker (Yabblesmacker)
New member Username: Yabblesmacker Post Number: 184 Registered: 4-2009 |
Was she trying to save Lily? Did she think that Lily was in danger, try to save her, and end up causing her death instead? Anything to do with prophecies? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 62 Registered: 5-2009 |
Was she trying to save Lily? Did she think that Lily was in danger, try to save her, and end up causing her death instead? Anything to do with prophecies?no to all. I thought this was easy! | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 60 Registered: 6-2009 |
Just found the wiki page with the LTPF lists. Fun! Was Lily already dying? Was the man a doctor? Is the man's profession relevant? Is Lily's exact cause of death relevant? If so... impact electric shock the other kind of shock something piercing her suffocation or asphyxiation burning freezing heart attack allergies drowning explosion radiation poison a psionic death ray laughing to death other | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 64 Registered: 5-2009 |
Just found the wiki page with the LTPF lists. Fun! Was Lily already dying?no Was the man a doctor?no Is the man's profession relevant?yes Is Lily's exact cause of death relevant?yes If so... impact electric shock the other kind of shock something piercing her suffocation or asphyxiation burning freezing heart attack allergies drowning explosion radiation poison a psionic death ray laughing to death otherthis | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 62 Registered: 6-2009 |
oooooookay, so was the man's profession in the field of: Artistic / musical / writer Banking / financial / real estate Clerical / Administrative Computer related / Hardware Construction / Craftsman Criminal / Questionable Repute Education / Academic Research Entertainment / Media Environmental / Outdoors / Nature Executive / Management Hospitality / Travel Legal Services Manufacturing / Distributions Medical / Health Services Politics / Government / Military Sales / Marketing Technical / Science / Engineering Teaching / Child care Transportation Food Service Other Was Lily bleeding when she died? Did some major bodily system fail? Was she unable to do something essential for the maintenance of life (e.g. eat, drink, breathe)? Prior to dying, was there anything unusual about her? If you were Susan's best friend, would you have died in this same situation? Could this happen in real life? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 67 Registered: 5-2009 |
oooooookay, so was the man's profession in the field of: Artistic / musical / writer Banking / financial / real estate Clerical / Administrative Computer related / Hardware Construction / Craftsman Criminal / Questionable Repute Education / Academic Research Entertainment / Mediathis one Environmental / Outdoors / Nature Executive / Management Hospitality / Travel Legal Services Manufacturing / Distributions Medical / Health Services Politics / Government / Military Sales / Marketing Technical / Science / Engineering Teaching / Child care Transportation Food Service Other Was Lily bleeding when she died?no Did some major bodily system fail? noWas she unable to do something essential for the maintenance of life (e.g. eat, drink, breathe)?yes Prior to dying, was there anything unusual about her? noIf you were Susan's best friend, would you have died in this same situation?maybe Could this happen in real life?yes | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 77 Registered: 6-2009 |
Did Lily starve? Die of thirst? Oxygen deprivation? These all seem to be relatively slow deaths. Did Susan isolate Lily somewhere without the necessities of life? If so, did she originally intend to release her before she died? If not, did she actively deprive her of food or water? Some kind of extreme dieting? Disable her in some way that didn't allow her to eat, drink, or breathe? Life support systems relevant? Was the media guy a paparazzi? Was Lily famous? Was Susan? Was he covering some action on their part? Did he write? Take pictures? Video? Radio? Multimedia? Or was he just a bigwig at a media company? Did he actively intervene in whatever they were doing? Threaten one or both? Blackmail one or both? Or just stand by and maintain journalistic objectivity? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 71 Registered: 5-2009 |
Did Lily starve? Die of thirst? Oxygen deprivation?this, she couldn't breathe These all seem to be relatively slow deaths. Did Susan isolate Lily somewhere without the necessities of life?no If so, did she originally intend to release her before she died?no If not, did she actively deprive her of food or water?no Some kind of extreme dieting?no Disable her in some way that didn't allow her to eat, drink, or breathe?no Life support systems relevant? no Was the media guy a paparazzi?FA Was Lily famous?no Was Susan?no Was he covering some action on their part? Did he write? Take pictures? Video? Radio? Multimedia? Or was he just a bigwig at a media company? Did he actively intervene in whatever they were doing? Threaten one or both? Blackmail one or both? Or just stand by and maintain journalistic objectivity?ALL OF THE ABOVE IS FA | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 84 Registered: 6-2009 |
So she couldn't breathe, but it wasn't suffocation, asphyxiation, or drowning? I'm confused. Did she die of an asthma attack? Did the air become unbreathable? Were they in outer space? Was something obstructing her mouth, nose or airway? And you said that the man's profession was in the field of entertainment/media. So apparently he's not any kind of reporter... does he work a desk job? Is he some kind of actor? Entertainer? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 73 Registered: 5-2009 |
So she couldn't breathe, but it wasn't suffocation, asphyxiation, or drowning? I'm confused. Did she die of an asthma attack? Did the air become unbreathable? Were they in outer space? Was something obstructing her mouth, nose or airway? this, you can ignore the rest And you said that the man's profession was in the field of entertainment/media. So apparently he's not any kind of reporter... does he work a desk job? Is he some kind of actor? Entertainer?this | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 96 Registered: 6-2009 |
Does the entertainer do something you would see at a circus? on a cruise boat? in Vegas? at a restaurant? on TV? in a public area? Are any of these the actual location where this takes place? Were Lily and Susan part of an audience? Is he a magician/illusionist, by any chance? Does Susan choke on something? Something she is eating? Does she inhale something that subsequently obstructs her breathing? Is she smothered? Does someone hold her mouth and nose closed? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 74 Registered: 5-2009 |
Does the entertainer do something you would see at a circus? on a cruise boat? in Vegas? at a restaurant? on TV? in a public area?it could be any, but most likely theatre Are any of these the actual location where this takes place?the one I mentioned Were Lily and Susan part of an audience?yes Is he a magician/illusionist, by any chance?no Does Susan choke on something?yes, but you're thinking of Lily Something she is eating?yes Does she inhale something that subsequently obstructs her breathing?no Is she smothered?no Does someone hold her mouth and nose closed?no | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 100 Registered: 6-2009 |
For future reference, choking=asphyxiation ;-) Alright, was he a juggler? gymnast/acrobat? singer/musician? comedian? plate spinner? dancer? death-defying stunt performer? ribbon twirler? any kind of one-man show? Did his act involve audience participation at all? Were either of them called upon to participate? Susan? Lily? Was Lily eating something along the lines of popcorn, a pretzel, nachos, candy, etc. while watching the act? Is that what she choked on? Was it dinner theater? Did Susan lend her gum that she choked on? Did Susan directly cause her to choke? Indirectly, as with lending her gum? Or was the choking accidental, like if Lily was just unexpectedly laughing at the performer and started to choke, and then Susan killed her while trying to give her the heimlich? Or did she stop someone else from saving her? Did anyone try to rescucitate or heimlich Lily? Did anyone realize she was choking? Anyone other than Susan? Did she die the standard period of time after she began choking? Faster? Slower? | ||
| Sugarshane (Sugarshane)
New member Username: Sugarshane Post Number: 99 Registered: 7-2009 |
anything to do with mouth to mouth resuscitation? or being allergic to anything? | ||
| Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
New member Username: Blackmagic Post Number: 79 Registered: 5-2009 |
************SPOILER****************** Yes, Lily chokes on the popcorn Susan's bought her. Someone else tries to help her, but Susan pushes them off, thinking that they are trying to kill her. |
