| Author | Message | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 424 Registered: 9-2008 |
It wasn't raining, so why did he say it was? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
Moderator Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 167 Registered: 3-2009 |
Was he lying? He = H? A? M?
May I take this to mean "so why did he say, "It's raining."? Is he talking about the usual rain of water from the clouds/sky or something else? A metaphor of sorts? | ||
| Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles)
New member Username: Caesarachilles Post Number: 56 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is the title relevant? Is the location of 'him' and/or the rain relevant? Is My Fair Lady relevant? Is he an actor? When you say 'it was,' does that mean at the same time as when 'it wasn't'? Meaning, it was raining earlier that day and now it stopped, but the statement 'it was raining' is still true? | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 314 Registered: 5-2009 |
"Reigning"? Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer relevant? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 426 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the title relevant? Only in that the puzzle relates to rain. Is the location of 'him' and/or the rain relevant? Yope (but it's not Spain!), and there may be a small FA here. Is My Fair Lady relevant? Not in the least. I just liked the title. Is he an actor? No, with a very tiny "ish." When you say 'it was,' does that mean at the same time as when 'it wasn't'? Meaning, it was raining earlier that day and now it stopped, but the statement 'it was raining' is still true? It's irrelevant whether it was raining earlier in the day or not. The only important thing is that it's not raining now, but he says that it is raining. "Reigning"? Nice try, but no. Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer relevant? No. | ||
| Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles)
New member Username: Caesarachilles Post Number: 58 Registered: 5-2009 |
Oops! You missed Noobdogg's post! It is relevant how he said it was raining? Vocal? Written? Pictures? Any unusual tone of voice? Are there any other people involved besides him? If so: 1? 2+? 5+? 10+? 50+? 100+? Is there anything strange about there not being rain? I take it that he is referring to rain where he is, and not 10,000 miles away in a rainforest? (Or is he in a rainforest?) | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 174 Registered: 2-2009 |
No with a small 'ish' to actor... Is he a meteorologist? On the news? On the Weather Channel? Local? Was there any kind of precipitation going on? Snow? Hail? Sleet? Frogs? Anything to do with the technical definition of raining? Was there a tornado involved? Had a tornado sucked up water from a body of water and was now dropping it on the area in question? | ||
| Davesnothere (Davesnothere)
New member Username: Davesnothere Post Number: 84 Registered: 3-2009 |
Did he think it was raining? Or did he know it was not raining and for reasons to be determined said it was? Did he wish to cause something to happen (or not happen) by saying it was raining? For example, prevent someone from leaving. Is this whole puzzle around the question of the rain, or is it part of a larger story? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 429 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was he lying? Yes. He = H? A? M? Yes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: ..so why did he say it was? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- May I take this to mean "so why did he say, "It's raining."? Yes. Is he talking about the usual rain of water from the clouds/sky or something else? Yes. A metaphor of sorts? No. It is relevant how he said it was raining? Vocal? Yes. Written? Pictures? Any unusual tone of voice? Are there any other people involved besides him? No, with a very tiny "ish." If so: 1? 2+? 5+? 10+? 50+? 100+? Is there anything strange about there not being rain? Not particularly. I take it that he is referring to rain where he is No. It's NOT where he is., and not 10,000 miles away in a rainforest? But not this. (Or is he in a rainforest?) No. No with a small 'ish' to actor... Is he a meteorologist? On the news? On the Weather Channel? No to all. Local? Please clarify. Local what? Was there any kind of precipitation going on? Snow? Hail? Sleet? Frogs? No. Anything to do with the technical definition of raining? No. Was there a tornado involved? No. Had a tornado sucked up water from a body of water and was now dropping it on the area in question? No. Did he think it was raining? No. Or did he know it was not raining and for reasons to be determined said it was? Yes. Did he wish to cause something to happen (or not happen) by saying it was raining? Yesish. For example, prevent someone from leaving. But not this. Is this whole puzzle around the question of the rain, or is it part of a larger story? The whole question is why he said it was raining, but there's a story behind that. **********************RECAP********************** A man (H, A, M) says that it's raining when it's not. The man knows it's not raining, but for reasons still to be determined, he wants to cause (or prevent) some occurence by saying it is. The rain (or the place where the man SAYS there's rain) is NOT where the man is (but it's not 10,000 miles away in a rainforest either). The man is not an actor, a weatherman/meteorologist, or a newscaster, but his job does vaguely relate to acting. The location is relevant (but it's not Spain), and My Fair Lady is not relevant at all (other than being where I got the title. | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 33 Registered: 6-2009 |
Was he trying to prevent someone from doing something outdoors? Was he trying to cover up some kind of unfortunate water-related incident? As an excuse for why he had not yet arrived somewhere? Did he wish it was actually raining? Was the person/people he said this to... friend? relative? significant other? co-worker? acquaintance? stranger? such a large group of people that this question is irrelevant? other? Did he say this... on the phone? in person? on TV? in a movie? on the radio? via text message? IM? email? tin can on a string? other? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 443 Registered: 9-2008 |
Missed post while this was on Lateral Limbo: are webcams relevant? No. Is he referring to the location that he is physically present at when he says its raining? No. As I mentioned in the recap, he is referring to rain somewhere ELSE. Does he say this to keep someone else from doing something? Noish. thinking something? Yes. Is he hoping someone hears him say that it's raining? Yes, that's the whole point. Is it opposite day? (remembering when we used to say something to someone in grade school and when they took it as a compliment say, "its opposite day today.") No. Did anyone hear him say that its raining? Yes. Did he know they heard him? Yes. want him to hear them? Yes. Did he say this to pretend like he wasn't telling the truth after he realized someone had overheard him saying something he didn't want them to know? No. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 444 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was he trying to prevent someone from doing something outdoors? No. Was he trying to cover up some kind of unfortunate water-related incident? YES! As an excuse for why he had not yet arrived somewhere? No. Did he wish it was actually raining? Irrel. Was the person/people he said this to... friend? relative? significant other? co-worker? acquaintance? stranger? such a large group of people that this question is irrelevant? This one. other? Did he say this... on the phone? in person? on TV? in a movie? on the radio? This one. via text message? IM? email? tin can on a string? other? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 38 Registered: 6-2009 |
Was he a radio presenter-person? Did he ring up the radio? Was he a policeman? Was he talking about the past? That it rained in the past (somewhere)? Was a special event on when it was "raining"? When it was "raining"? If he had said it wasn't raining would he get into trouble? Someone else would get into trouble? Was it an excuse? An explanation? Was it a flood? a sport-related injury? Boats or ships related? Did the rain cause damage? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 450 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was he a radio presenter-person? This one. Did he ring up the radio? Was he a policeman? Was he talking about the past? No. That it rained in the past (somewhere)? No. Was a special event on when it was "raining"? Yes. When it was "raining"? Yes. If he had said it wasn't raining would he get into trouble? Quite likely. Someone else would get into trouble? Perhaps. Was it an excuse? Yesish. An explanation? Yesish. Was it a flood? a sport-related injury? Boats or ships related? Did the rain cause damage? None of these. | ||
| Sugarshane (Sugarshane)
New member Username: Sugarshane Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2009 |
did he say it was raining to cover up a crime that he had committed? is the "special event" relavent? he was keeping people from the special event to cover up his crime? was he broadcasting from the event? did he have accomplices? | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 49 Registered: 6-2009 |
Was he a presenter on AM? FM? Was the special event related to... sports? news? one of the station's advertisers? traffic? some sort of festival? concert? a promotion for the station (e.g. free gas fridays)? Was it an event the station was hosting? promoting? mentioning? did he say it was raining to keep people from going? or to explain damage that might plausibly be caused by rain? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 452 Registered: 9-2008 |
did he say it was raining to cover up a crime that he had committed? Conceivably, for SVV of "crime," but don't get sidetracked by that. You'll never figure it out that way in a million years. is the "special event" relavent? Yes. he was keeping people from the special event to cover up his crime? No. was he broadcasting from the event? Yope. did he have accomplices? No. Was he a presenter on AM? Probably this, but irrel. FM? Was the special event related to... sports? This one. news? one of the station's advertisers? traffic? some sort of festival? concert? a promotion for the station (e.g. free gas fridays)? Was it an event the station was hosting? promoting? mentioning? The station was covering the event, but did not host it. did he say it was raining to keep people from going? No. or to explain damage that might plausibly be caused by rain? No. | ||
| Yabblesmacker (Yabblesmacker)
New member Username: Yabblesmacker Post Number: 183 Registered: 4-2009 |
So is he a sports presenter? Is it relevant wha the sport is? Does he want people to think he is at the place where he says it is raining, but he actually isn't? Is he hoping to provide himself with an alibi of some sort? Is it during a match/game? Did he cause the 'unfortunate water related incident'? Accidentally? Intentionally? | ||
| Sugarshane (Sugarshane)
New member Username: Sugarshane Post Number: 8 Registered: 7-2009 |
was it because the location of the event was different than where the radio broadcast was being heard, so when he said it was raining it was actually raining at the event location and not where the broadcast was being heard? did the man say it was raining to avoid work or doing a task? was he skipping work? did he say it was raining over the radio? does the "unfortunate water related event" happen where he is broadcasting? or where he is suppose to be broadcasting? at the "special event"? did he cause the unfortunate water related event and say it was raining as a cover? would he have lost his job if he would not have said it's raining? sorry if there are repeat questions. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 454 Registered: 9-2008 |
So is he a sports presenter? Yes. Is it relevant wha the sport is? Yesish. Does he want people to think he is at the place where he says it is raining, but he actually isn't? Yesish. Is he hoping to provide himself with an alibi of some sort? Noish. Is it during a match/game? Yes. Did he cause the 'unfortunate water related incident'? Yes. Accidentally? Intentionally? This one. was it because the location of the event was different than where the radio broadcast was being heard, so when he said it was raining it was actually raining at the event location and not where the broadcast was being heard? No. It wasn't raining at the event location. Irrel. whether it was raining at the broadcast location. did the man say it was raining to avoid work or doing a task? No. was he skipping work? No. did he say it was raining over the radio? Yes. does the "unfortunate water related event" happen where he is broadcasting? Yes. or where he is suppose to be broadcasting? If you mean where the event is taking place, then no. at the "special event"? No. did he cause the unfortunate water related event and say it was raining as a cover? YES! would he have lost his job if he would not have said it's raining? Quite possibly. sorry if there are repeat questions. It's okay. It happens all the time. | ||
| Yabblesmacker (Yabblesmacker)
New member Username: Yabblesmacker Post Number: 192 Registered: 4-2009 |
So the unfortunate water related incident (UWRI) was happening at the place where he was broadcasting, and to cover it up, he said it was raining where the sport match was taking place? Ok that seems illogical to me, but I suppoes that's the point! Did he always plan to cover up the UWRI by saying it was raining? Or did he find himself in a situation and have to think up an excuse on the spot? Is he broadcasting from one of those rooms with the microphones and the headphones? Do the public to whom he is broadcasting think that the broadcasting area is next to the sports area but actually it's not? Can people hear running water from the UWRI over the radio? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 457 Registered: 9-2008 |
So the unfortunate water related incident (UWRI) was happening at the place where he was broadcasting, and to cover it up, he said it was raining where the sport match was taking place? Yes. Ok that seems illogical to me, but I suppoes that's the point! It will make sense once you discover more about what's going on here. Did he always plan to cover up the UWRI by saying it was raining? Or did he find himself in a situation and have to think up an excuse on the spot? He didn't plan any of this in advance. He found himself in a situation that made the UWRI necessary, then came up with an excuse on the spot. Is he broadcasting from one of those rooms with the microphones and the headphones? Yes. Do the public to whom he is broadcasting think that the broadcasting area is next to the sports area but actually it's not? Yes. Can people hear running water from the UWRI over the radio? YES! | ||
| Indianforce (Indianforce)
New member Username: Indianforce Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2009 |
Did he cause a fire in the room where he's broadcasting from? Or somewhere in the vicinity? And obviously he couldn't think of anything else but to pour water on the fire, the sound of which he passed off as rain at the event venue? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 460 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did he cause a fire in the room where he's broadcasting from? Or somewhere in the vicinity? And obviously he couldn't think of anything else but to pour water on the fire, the sound of which he passed off as rain at the event venue? No to all, but good thinking. | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 58 Registered: 6-2009 |
Alright, so the UWRI doesn't have to do with fire, then. Does it have to do with... showers? burst pipes? a flood? washing something? drinking water? a hot water tank? Thus far, the story is that a sports broadcaster, reporting on a sporting event from offsite, unexpectedly causes/encounters an incident involving running water, which he knows can be heard over the radio. Fearing for his job if his involvement in this incident is discovered, he pretends that he is broadcasting on-site from the sporting event, and that it is raining there. Is all of this accurate so far? Apart from the exact nature of the UWRI, is there anything else we need to find out? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 462 Registered: 9-2008 |
Alright, so the UWRI doesn't have to do with fire, then. Does it have to do with... showers? burst pipes? a flood? washing something? drinking water? a hot water tank? None of these. Thus far, the story is that a sports broadcaster, reporting on a sporting event from offsite, unexpectedly causes/encounters an incident involving running water, which he knows can be heard over the radio. Fearing for his job if his involvement in this incident is discovered, he pretends that he is broadcasting on-site from the sporting event, and that it is raining there. Is all of this accurate so far? Yesish, except for one detail: He was ALREADY pretending to be broadcasting on-site from the sporting event before the UWRI occurred. Try to figure out why. Apart from the exact nature of the UWRI, is there anything else we need to find out? Yes. You need to know why he was covering a sporting event from offsite but pretending to be on-site in the first place. | ||
| Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
New member Username: Usmcfink Post Number: 391 Registered: 10-2008 |
Is the sport he is covering relevant? Baseball? Golf? Football? Soccer? Was the water caused by sprinklers? He had to claim it was raining there because the sprinklers came on mid-broadcast? Did he claim to be there, but not actually be there, because he wanted to avoid something/someone? A person? Family, friend, enemy, acquaintance? An event? Is he just lazy? Can't afford to get to the event? Is time period relevant? A particular date? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 466 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the sport he is covering relevant? Somewhat. Baseball? This one. Golf? Football? Soccer? Was the water caused by sprinklers? No. He had to claim it was raining there because the sprinklers came on mid-broadcast? So no. Did he claim to be there, but not actually be there, because he wanted to avoid something/someone? No. A person? Family, friend, enemy, acquaintance? An event? None of these. Is he just lazy? No. Can't afford to get to the event? YES! Is time period relevant? Only slightly. A particular date? No. | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 405 Registered: 6-2008 |
So is the entire predicament that he needs to act as if he's broadcasting from on-site when in fact he is somewhere else? or is there an additional accident that occurs that makes the rain explanation necessary? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 468 Registered: 9-2008 |
So is the entire predicament that he needs to act as if he's broadcasting from on-site when in fact he is somewhere else? No, that's not the entire predicament. In fact, it's completely routine for him to broadcast from offsite and pretend he's on-site. or is there an additional accident that occurs that makes the rain explanation necessary? Yes there is. This is the UWRI that you're trying to identify. | ||
| Ohlala8 (Ohlala8)
New member Username: Ohlala8 Post Number: 313 Registered: 6-2009 |
Is he broadcasting on a mainstream radio station? If so, does his boss know that he routinely broadcasts from offsite? Does his boss not provide him with adequate funding to go to sporting events? Does he use the money that would normally cover his transportation for something else? If not, is he part of a high school/college radio station? An independently run station? An unofficial station within a company or institution? Is the game he's covering professional? College? High school? Intramural? Recreational? Relevant how he knows what's going on in the game if he's not there? Is he watching it on TV? Listening to it on another radio station? Is he on the phone with someone who's there? Does he have super-strong binoculars? Is he just making it up? This is the standard definition of "covering" the game, as in giving a play-by-play report of what's going on and occasionally inserting opinions, right? Is the game going on live at the time of the broadcast? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 470 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is he broadcasting on a mainstream radio station? Yesish (I think), but please clarify "mainstream." If so, does his boss know that he routinely broadcasts from offsite? Yes. Does his boss not provide him with adequate funding to go to sporting events? Yope. Does he use the money that would normally cover his transportation for something else? No. If not, is he part of a high school/college radio station? No. An independently run station? Clarify, please. An unofficial station within a company or institution? No. Is the game he's covering professional? This one. College? High school? Intramural? Recreational? Relevant how he knows what's going on in the game if he's not there? Not particularly. Is he watching it on TV? Listening to it on another radio station? Is he on the phone with someone who's there? Does he have super-strong binoculars? Is he just making it up? None of these. This is not particularly important, so I'll let you have it. He gets a play-by-play summary of the game via a teletype feed. This is the standard definition of "covering" the game, as in giving a play-by-play report of what's going on and occasionally inserting opinions, right? Yes, it is. Is the game going on live at the time of the broadcast? Yes. | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 409 Registered: 6-2008 |
Does he need to explain away the UWRI, because if he told the truth it would alert the listeners to the fact that he was really off-site? or does he need to cover up the incident for another reason? When you say that something "made the UWRI necessary", do you mean that he intentionally (as opposed to accidentally) caused the water to run/drip? Did he by any chance need to use the restroom in the middle of a broadcast? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 472 Registered: 9-2008 |
Does he need to explain away the UWRI, because if he told the truth it would alert the listeners to the fact that he was really off-site? No. or does he need to cover up the incident for another reason? Yes. When you say that something "made the UWRI necessary", do you mean that he intentionally (as opposed to accidentally) caused the water to run/drip? Yes. Did he by any chance need to use the restroom in the middle of a broadcast? YES!!! You guys are close enough that I'm going to go ahead and post the *********************SPOILER********************* The man is minor-league baseball commentator for a local radio station. At one time, it was common for such radio stations to cut costs by not sending anyone to travel with the team when it went on road trips. Instead, they would have a commentator cover the road games from a studio. He would receive a teletype feed telling him what was going on in the game, and he would use an assortment of stock sound effects (bat-on-ball, crowd noises, etc.) to make it sound like he was actually at the game. So, our hero is in the middle of precisely such a broadcast, and during a long inning, he desperately needs to go to the bathroom. Not having any way to get away from the mic, he grabs a trash can and does his business in there. But he knows the mic will pick up the sound of him relieving himself, so he explains the sound away by announcing "And, it's starting to rain!" Hope you liked the puzzle! I'll try to have another one soon. | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 391 Registered: 10-2008 |
Haha, very good one. |
