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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1256 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:21 am: |      |
"Free online help. 25 cents." Explain.} |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 598 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:43 am: |      |
Are both statements contradictory? Does the "25 cents" part ever relate to the "free online help"? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1261 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:44 am: |      |
Are both statements contradictory? Yes. Does the "25 cents" part ever relate to the "free online help"? No. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 601 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 12:16 pm: |      |
Are they related to the same thing? I.e. is something offered at the same time for free and for the 25 cents? |
Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami
Post Number: 437 Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 2:16 pm: |      |
Does this occur at the library? Is there supposedly free internet access here? And yet it somehow costs 25 cents to use it? Or does access to the internet usually cost 25 cents? Does "online help" refer to assistance found at a particular website? Access to the internet in general? People who will help you learn to use the internet? |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 50 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 3:56 pm: |      |
Is "Online Help" a service that has been held up in a legal tangle, and its supporters are asking for donations to help "free" it? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1264 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 9:35 pm: |      |
Are they related to the same thing? No. I.e. is something offered at the same time for free and for the 25 cents? No. Does this occur at the library? Yes. Is there supposedly free internet access here? Yes. And yet it somehow costs 25 cents to use it? No. Or does access to the internet usually cost 25 cents? No. Does "online help" refer to assistance found at a particular website? Yes. Access to the internet in general? No. People who will help you learn to use the internet? No. Is "Online Help" a service that has been held up in a legal tangle, and its supporters are asking for donations to help "free" it? No. |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 57 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 9:40 pm: |      |
Maybe I'm missing something... you said "NO" to the following question: "Does the "25 cents" part ever relate to the "free online help"?" (I took "ever" as a typo of "even".) If they don't relate to each other, what is it we're trying to establish? Okay, never mind, I'll commence with the yes or no questions... Are they two different signs that just happened to be next to each other? Is "25cents" the name of the "free help" website? (Wait, no, it can't be, because they don't relate...) |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1266 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 9:59 pm: |      |
If they don't relate to each other, what is it we're trying to establish? If they don't relate to each other, how is it they're so closely associated? Are they two different signs that just happened to be next to each other? Yope. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 608 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:44 pm: |      |
So we have a sign in a library reading "Free online help", correct? This refers to a specific website. Relevant which one? Then, there is another sign saying that something completely different costs 25 cents, right? Is there enough place for both signs? Or do they have to overlap/be very close to fit somewhere? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1270 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 12:37 am: |      |
So we have a sign in a library reading "Free online help", correct? Yes. This refers to a specific website. Relevant which one? No. Then, there is another sign saying that something completely different costs 25 cents, right? Yope. Is there enough place for both signs? Yope. Or do they have to overlap/be very close to fit somewhere? Yes. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 610 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 12:50 am: |      |
So the signs are not related to each other but they are placed so close together that they might be misread as one? Hang on... you have answered "yope" twice - does this yopishness relate to the fact that there are no TWO signs? Is the text of any of them handwritten? Over the other sign? Ore are they cutouts placed one over another? On some board, perhaps? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1271 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 2:52 am: |      |
So the signs are not related to each other but they are placed so close together that they might be misread as one? Yes. Hang on... you have answered "yope" twice - does this yopishness relate to the fact that there are no TWO signs? Yes. Is the text of any of them handwritten? Yes. Over the other sign? Yope. Ore are they cutouts placed one over another? On some board, perhaps? No to both, but OTRT. |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 60 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 2:04 pm: |      |
Is "25 cents" handwritten over the poster that advertises for free online help? |
Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz
Post Number: 36 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 2:48 pm: |      |
Does the "free online help sign" cost 25 cents? |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 65 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 2:55 pm: |      |
Natanz, that's a great guess, I bet that's it! (But wait a minute, I think we were told that "the 25 cents part" doesn't "relate to the free online help part... Hmmmm. Well, for the record, I like your answer anyway, Natanz.) |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1278 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 9:36 pm: |      |
Is "25 cents" handwritten over the poster that advertises for free online help? Yesish. Does the "free online help sign" cost 25 cents? I like that, but no. |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 85 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 9:39 pm: |      |
Is either "free online help" or "25 cents" the remnants of an old poster that was not fully removed? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1281 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 10:06 pm: |      |
Is either "free online help" or "25 cents" the remnants of an old poster that was not fully removed? Noish. You're on the right track. |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 87 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 1:34 am: |      |
Was either phrase at some point part of something larger? (I realize this very similar to my previous question, but I figure I assumed too much before.) |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1282 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 3:43 am: |      |
Was either phrase at some point part of something larger? Yes, but largely irrelevant. (I realize this very similar to my previous question, but I figure I assumed too much before.) It's not about the phrasing. |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 90 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 2:03 pm: |      |
Is the division between the phrases not where we assume it is? Is "free" from one sign and "online help 25 cents" from another. Wait, are they more than two phrases that have ended up seeming to be joined together? (For instance, "free" referred to one thing; "online help" to another; and "25 cents" to a third?) |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1286 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 4:10 pm: |      |
Is the division between the phrases not where we assume it is? Is "free" from one sign and "online help 25 cents" from another. Wait, are they more than two phrases that have ended up seeming to be joined together? (For instance, "free" referred to one thing; "online help" to another; and "25 cents" to a third?) No to all. There are only two phrases combined, and you have them correct ("Free online help" and "25 cents." You just need to figure how they got associated. |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 97 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 4:24 pm: |      |
Are both phrases written/printed on paper? If so, are they both on the same piece of paper? If not, is "free online help" written directly on the wall or corkboard? Same question for "25 cents"? Is "free online help" printed (by a computer printer, or professionally)? Is "25 cents" printed? Is "free online help" handwritten? Is "25 cents" handwritten? Was "25 cents" written on a sticker, which was then placed on the "free online help" poster? Same question, phrases reversed? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1289 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 10:37 pm: |      |
Are both phrases written/printed on paper? No. If so, are they both on the same piece of paper? If not, is "free online help" written directly on the wall or corkboard? No. Same question for "25 cents"? No, but you're OTRT. Is "free online help" printed (by a computer printer, or professionally)? Yes. Is "25 cents" printed? No. Is "free online help" handwritten? No. Is "25 cents" handwritten? Yes. Was "25 cents" written on a sticker, which was then placed on the "free online help" poster? Same question, phrases reversed? No to both. |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 107 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 12:07 am: |      |
So we have to figure out what "25 cents" is handwritten on... cardboard? Posterboard? Plastic? Metal? Wood? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1291 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 1:48 am: |      |
So we have to figure out what "25 cents" is handwritten on... cardboard? Posterboard? Plastic? This. Metal? Wood? |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 114 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 3:06 am: |      |
Is it a poker chip? Is it a "stop gambling" site? |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 115 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 3:08 am: |      |
Ehh, never mind, they're not related... |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 116 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 3:13 am: |      |
The plastic that "25 cents" is written on - is it hard? Soft? Thicker than a dollar bill? Is it round? Square? Jagged irregular shape? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1294 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 4:00 am: |      |
The plastic that "25 cents" is written on - is it hard? Yes. Soft? Thicker than a dollar bill? Yes. Is it round? Square? Rectangular, though square would work as well. Jagged irregular shape? |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 118 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 4:11 am: |      |
The plastic that "25 cents" is written on - bigger than a postage stamp? Smaller than a dollar bill? Is it magnetic? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1296 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 5:38 am: |      |
The plastic that "25 cents" is written on - bigger than a postage stamp? Yes. Smaller than a dollar bill? No. Is it magnetic? No. |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 120 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 1:45 pm: |      |
Is it the plastic that covers the whole "posting" board? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1298 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 9:32 pm: |      |
Is it the plastic that covers the whole "posting" board? Correct. **************** SPOILER **************** I work at a school library. A few days ago I was sliding a poster for free online tutoring into a plastic protector. It was only after I did this that I noticed that someone had previously written "25 cents" on the plastic with a marker, presumably to edit whatever poster had previously been in there. Coincidentally, it lined up perfectly with the words "free online tutoring." |
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member Username: Dropofahat
Post Number: 162 Registered: 8-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 9:48 pm: |      |
Haha, funny one. |