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Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
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Posted on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 2:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If the window had been closed, many more would have died.
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Is this a real event? Fictional? FYOI?

Are all the dead H? A? both sexes? any children?

Were they victims of terrorists? war? disaster? murder?

Is the window in a house? a public building? an office or workplace? a hospital? some form of transport?
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Is this a real event? This Fictional? FYOI?

Are all the dead H? Yes A? No both sexes? Yes any children? Unfortunately, yes

Were they victims of terrorists? war? disaster? This is closest, but it's a yope murder?

Is the window in a house? a public building? an office or workplace? this is closest a hospital? some form of transport?
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What was 'good' about the window:
-they could escape from it?
-it allowed in air?
-they were helped through the window?
-something else?
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What was 'good' about the window:
-they could escape from it? No
-it allowed in air? Yope
-they were helped through the window? No
-something else? Yes
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Was it an accident?

Was the bad thing caused by a human? By nature?

Was something changed about the building? Doors couldn't open? Something broke?
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Was it an accident? Not entirely sure what "it" is, so don't want to cause FA's, but this is worth exploring

Was the bad thing caused by a human? Yope
By nature? Yes

Was something changed about the building? Doors couldn't open? Something broke? None of these
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Posted on Monday, August 24, 2009 - 6:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did this happen in a school?
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Did this happen in a school? No.
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Was the bad thing a storm of some kind? A hurricane? If the windows had been closed, would they have directly killed more people(shattered glass)?
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Was the bad thing a fire?
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Could the event be considered an act of God? was it caused by human error? Was it intentional? Did something explode?
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Is there only one window relevant?

Were they heard through the window? Relevant?
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Figure09:
Was the bad thing a storm of some kind? A hurricane? If the windows had been closed, would they have directly killed more people(shattered glass)? sorry, no to all

Was the bad thing a fire? No

Peter365:
Could the event be considered an act of God? I assume you mean the "bad thing" - Yope was it caused by human error? No Was it intentional? No Did something explode? No

Alhucema:
Is there only one window relevant? Yes

Were they heard through the window? FA Relevant? only to resolve the FA
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Is this window an actual physical glass window? Or does it refer to something else?
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Is this window an actual physical glass window? Yes Or does it refer to something else? No
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Were there any other windows in the room? Did this happen in a room at all?
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Were there any other windows in the room? Irrel
Did this happen in a room at all? Yes
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Were all the people in the room children?

Am I being annoying for asking so many questions? :P
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Were all the people in the room children? big FA here

Am I being annoying for asking so many questions? :P absolutely not, please keep 'em coming. I think this'll prove to be an interesting one...
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Oh! Are the dead outside? Did the ones who survived move inside the building with the open window?
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Oh! Are the dead outside? yes, but beware further FA's

Did the ones who survived move inside the building with the open window? No
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Location relevant? Century/decade relevant?
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Location relevant? Yes Century/decade relevant? yes
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I'm new here, how do I ask for countries or centuries? :P
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REVISION!!!

Oh, dear, I appear to have left out a fairly important answer (I'll tell you later why that was, it was an unfortunate oversight). But it comes at a good time, I think.

here is my revised response to Peter365:

Is the window in a house? a public building? an office or workplace? this is closest a hospital? this also some form of transport?
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Figure09:
I'm new here, how do I ask for countries or centuries? :P I'm not so sure myself, I think there is a protocol for it, but I can't find it rigth now - I usually break it down by increments of 25 or 50 years
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I think it's something like:

Insert LTPF list of countries, LTPF list of centuries.
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Insert LTPF list of countries England
LTPF list of centuries 20th
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Did this happen during some war-time? WW1? WW2? Between the two wars? After 1945?

Were all the casualties children?
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Did this happen during some war-time? WW1? WW2? Between the two wars? this After 1945?

Were all the casualties children? no
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Is how the people died relevant, and will it help? Was it some disease?

How many people died? 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? over 1000?
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How many people died in this incident less than 10? 50? 100? 1000?
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Figure09:
Is how the people died relevant, and will it help? Yes Was it some disease? Yes

How many people died? 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? over 1000? This
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Hm.. This is making me really curious.

Some contagious disease?

What was good about the window:
- it allowed people inside the room?
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Some contagious disease? yes

What was good about the window:
- it allowed people inside the room? no
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What was good about the window:
- did it let people have access to medication?

Was the window in a pharmacy?
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What was good about the window:
- did it let people have access to medication? in an incredibly indirect, lateral way, yes

Was the window in a pharmacy? no
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ok thats it for now, I'll be back with 100 questions later. Have a good one!
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ok thats it for now, I'll be back with 100 questions later. Have a good one! Ha, okay cool, you too.
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Spanish flu?

Was the window somehow related to the invention of penicilin?
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Spanish flu? Possibly

Was the window somehow related to the invention of penicilin? Yes
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Was the room a laboratory?

Did the window allow the fungus inside the room that ultimately was discovered by Fleming?
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Was the room a laboratory? Yes

Did the window allow the fungus inside the room that ultimately was discovered by Fleming? Yes


************************SPOILER*******************

In the hot summer of 1928, Fleming left for a two-week vacation and didn't close his laboratory window. He also left a stack of culture plates, some of which were smeared with staphylococcus bacteria. While he was gone, a spore containing a rare strain of a fungus mold called penicillium drifted into his lab from another lab in the same building. By chance, it settled onto the messy culture plate. And we know what happened when he returned...

(Of course, "Many more would have died" refers to the fact that Fleming's discovery would have at the very least been delayed or maybe even discovered much later by someone else, likely causing more people to die from the various bacterial diseases that penicillin treats...)


I had a feeling it was only a matter of time before someone spotted the "famous event" depicted here. Hope you guys enjoyed this one - Figure09, you paid your dues with this one, so I'm glad it was you who dealt the final blow. (Lot of good questions from others of course, including Alhucema, who threw the fastball to Figure09.)


I learned long after posting this that someone else did a Fleming-related puzzle not long ago. Go figure.
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Thanks, this is my 1st puzzle here, so I'm really glad I solved it in the end. Nice puzzle.

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