| Author | Message | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1330 Registered: 5-2003 |
"Is it safe to get out now, Sir?" | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 847 Registered: 11-2008 |
People smuggling relevant? Real event? Fiction? FYOI? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2083 Registered: 1-2007 |
Does this actually occur inside a tank? Is this a military tank? a tank containing a liquid? A fish tank? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1344 Registered: 5-2003 |
People smuggling relevant? No. Real event? This. Fiction? FYOI? Does this actually occur inside a tank? Yes. Is this a military tank? Yes. a tank containing a liquid? A fish tank? No to the others. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 853 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was it safe to get out? The question - is it coming from the tank crew? Sir - their superior? Is he in the tank? Are the persons asking in the tank? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1346 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was it safe to get out? Yes. The question - is it coming from the tank crew? Yes. Sir - their superior? Irrelevant, but assume yes. Is he in the tank? Yes. Are the persons asking in the tank? Yes. I misremembered the quote used in the puzzle statement, but it doesn't change anything above. The correct statement is: "Is it OK to get out now, Skip?" | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 857 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is there a non-human animal in the tank? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 74 Registered: 8-2009 |
Is it during war time? Practice? Did they recently encounter an enemy? Were they under attack? So they asked Skip if it was safe... Does Skip know more than the asking people? Because he can see more than the others? Or does Skip have more experience and is therefore asked if it's safe? Or did they ask Skip because he's in a higher rank? Or a different reason? Or they asked him by coincidence? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1347 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is there a non-human animal in the tank? No. Is it during war time? Yes. Practice? Yes. Did they recently encounter an enemy? Were they under attack? No to both. So they asked Skip if it was safe... Does Skip know more than the asking people? Because he can see more than the others? Or does Skip have more experience and is therefore asked if it's safe? Or did they ask Skip because he's in a higher rank? Primarily this, but the previous questions can be answered yes as well. Or a different reason? No. Or they asked him by coincidence? No. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 861 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was the tank on land? In water? Was there anything outside they were afraid of? Enemy shooting? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 75 Registered: 8-2009 |
Were the asking people training to operate the tank? Training other combat operations? Was it a dumb question or perfectly reasonable? Did the practice take place somewhere away from the actual war? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 868 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is/was the tank surrounded with something dangerous? If so, is it water? gas? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1353 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the tank on land? This. In water? Was there anything outside they were afraid of? Enemy shooting? No to both. Were the asking people training to operate the tank? Yope. Training other combat operations? Yes. Was it a dumb question or perfectly reasonable? Hmm, hard to answer. I'd call it reasonable. Did the practice take place somewhere away from the actual war? Yes. Is/was the tank surrounded with something dangerous? No. If so, is it water? gas? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 482 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did the people inside the tank somehow think they were in a real combat situation/not realize it was only training? Or was the question about getting out part of their training? Did the supervisor expect to get that question? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 76 Registered: 8-2009 |
Were they training strategies? Was the reason they asked it, because if it wasn't safe, they would be killed by their own tank? Or because of an "unsafe social situation"? Was their tank armed? Did they know whether their tank was moving or not? Does the type of tank matter (modern, old)? Was it a normal training, or did it have special significance? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1359 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the people inside the tank somehow think they were in a real combat situation/not realize it was only training? No. Or was the question about getting out part of their training? To a minor effect. Did the supervisor expect to get that question? Probably not. Were they training strategies? Noish. Was the reason they asked it, because if it wasn't safe, they would be killed by their own tank? No. Or because of an "unsafe social situation"? No. Was their tank armed? Yes. Did they know whether their tank was moving or not? Yes. Does the type of tank matter (modern, old)? Yes; this was during WWII. Was it a normal training This., or did it have special significance? \b(Noish.} | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 898 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is there something funny/unusual about their question (in relation to the real situation they were in)? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 77 Registered: 8-2009 |
Would the question be dumb if they were experienced? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1365 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is there something funny/unusual about their question (in relation to the real situation they were in)? It could be considered ironic. Would the question be dumb if they were experienced? No. It can't really be called a smart or dumb question. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 899 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was the question ironic because of the situation they were in? Their little experience? Were there other tanks? If so, is it relevant what happened to them? Is the exact location relevant? If so, was it on Western front? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1366 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the question ironic because of the situation they were in? Very much so. Their little experience? Yes, but to a lesser extent. Were there other tanks? Irrelevant. If so, is it relevant what happened to them? Is the exact location relevant? No. If so, was it on Western front? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 900 Registered: 11-2008 |
The situation outside the tank? Inside? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1367 Registered: 5-2003 |
The situation outside the tank? This. Inside? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 905 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was it ironic because it was completely safe outside the tank (but they thought it wasn't)? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1368 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was it ironic because it was completely safe outside the tank (but they thought it wasn't)? Yes. Why would they have thought otherwise? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 925 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did they have a good reason to think it was NOT safe? Because of something they saw? Heard? Smelled? Assumed? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1370 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they have a good reason to think it was NOT safe? Yes. Because of something they saw? No. Heard? Yes. Smelled? Possibly. Assumed? Yes. | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 78 Registered: 8-2009 |
Did they hear humans? Vehicles? Talking? Something over speakers? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 79 Registered: 8-2009 |
Why does the type of tank matter, because old tanks are smaller? They don't have much protection? They are even less comfortable? They have bad suspension? They can see very little from inside? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1381 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they hear humans? Vehicles? Technically this. Talking? Something over speakers? Why does the type of tank matter, because old tanks are smaller? This. They don't have much protection? They are even less comfortable? They have bad suspension? They can see very little from inside? None of the others. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 978 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did they assume they were hearing different vehicles they were actually hearing? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 979 Registered: 11-2008 |
sorry, THAN they were actually hearing. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1383 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they assume they were hearing different vehicles than they were actually hearing? No. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 980 Registered: 11-2008 |
So they heard a sort of vehicles outside, right? And they knew what vehicles they were hearing, correct? Did they misunderstand the purpose of the vehicles? The vehicles - were they military vehicles? Aircraft? Ships? Tanks? Cars? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1384 Registered: 5-2003 |
So they heard a sort of vehicles outside, right? Yes. And they knew what vehicles they were hearing, correct? Yes. Did they misunderstand the purpose of the vehicles? No. The vehicles - were they military vehicles? Yes. Aircraft? This. Ships? Tanks? Cars? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 983 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did they misunderstand something else about the aircraft? Were they ally aircraft, while the crew thought they were enemy aircraft? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1397 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they misunderstand something else about the aircraft? No. Were they ally aircraft Yes., while the crew thought they were enemy aircraft? No. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 988 Registered: 11-2008 |
So the crew did know that what they were hearing were ally aircraft? Were they assuming there was some danger coming from the aircraft? In relation to the aircraft? Did they misinterpret their own position (e.g. thinking that they were on the enemy territory while in fact they were not)? Actually, did they misinterpret anything at all? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1407 Registered: 5-2003 |
So the crew did know that what they were hearing were ally aircraft? Yes. Were they assuming there was some danger coming from the aircraft? Yes. In relation to the aircraft? Yes. Did they misinterpret their own position (e.g. thinking that they were on the enemy territory while in fact they were not)? No. Actually, did they misinterpret anything at all? Good question. No! | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 81 Registered: 8-2009 |
Did the aircraft fire or drop bombs near the tank? Was this accidental? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1431 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the aircraft fire or drop bombs near the tank? No to both. Was this accidental? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1008 Registered: 11-2008 |
Hang on... so whatever they perceived was correct, and still their behaviour was sort of funny? Was there REALLY some danger coming from/in relation to the aircraft? Did they make any mistake in their assumptions? If so, was it related rather to timing than to something else? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1436 Registered: 5-2003 |
Hang on... so whatever they perceived was correct, and still their behaviour was sort of funny? As a hint, think of the question as sarcastic, with emphasis on the word "now." Also, there is probably an FA involved. Was there REALLY some danger coming from/in relation to the aircraft? Yes. Did they make any mistake in their assumptions? No. If so, was it related rather to timing than to something else? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 82 Registered: 8-2009 |
Was the danger that the aircraft were about to crash? Made a loud noise? Were dropping fuel? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1438 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the danger that the aircraft were about to crash? No, but otrt. Made a loud noise? This happened, yes. Were dropping fuel? No. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1024 Registered: 11-2008 |
Something to do with the sound barrier? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1439 Registered: 5-2003 |
Something to do with the sound barrier? No. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1027 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the danger coming from the aircraft themselves (such as falling on the tanks and crushing them)? The aircraft dropping something? Weapons aboard? If the danger really came true, do the aircraft have to be airborne? Is there more than one aircraft? Relevant? THe exact number of aircraft relevant? Are the aircraft pretending something? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1442 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the danger coming from the aircraft themselves Yes. (such as falling on the tanks and crushing them)? No, but OTRT. The aircraft dropping something? Could be. Weapons aboard? The aircraft or the tank? Elaborate, please. If the danger really came true, do the aircraft have to be airborne? Yes. Is there more than one aircraft? Yes. Relevant? Yes. THe exact number of aircraft relevant? {Yes.} Are the aircraft pretending something? No, though this is part of a training scenario. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1443 Registered: 5-2003 |
Blooper: If the danger really came true, do the aircraft have to be airborne? Yope. | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 85 Registered: 8-2009 |
Was there a relevant conversation before the question? Did Skip make a mistake in saying it wasn't safe to come out before? Did the aircraft come closer to the tank? Altitude-wise? Were the aircraft enemies in the training? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1445 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was there a relevant conversation before the question? Yes. Did Skip make a mistake in saying it wasn't safe to come out before? No. Did the aircraft come closer to the tank? Altitude-wise? Both of these are hard to answer, rephrase. Were the aircraft enemies in the training? No. | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 93 Registered: 8-2009 |
Did Skip say earlier it wasn't safe to come out? Or that it was safe? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1471 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did Skip say earlier it wasn't safe to come out? This. Or that it was safe? | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 95 Registered: 8-2009 |
Did the tank fire? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1474 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the tank fire? No. | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 96 Registered: 8-2009 |
So, earlier Skip said it wasn't safe to come out, and he was right about it. Did he say something in the lines of that they should stay in the tank until a certain time? Certain event? Because otherwise it would still be unsafe? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1481 Registered: 5-2003 |
So, earlier Skip said it wasn't safe to come out, and he was right about it. Correct. Did he say something in the lines of that they should stay in the tank until a certain time? Certain event? Because otherwise it would still be unsafe? Yes to all. | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 102 Registered: 8-2009 |
Were they trying to hide from the aircraft? Why did they want to come out of the tank? To end the training? To do something in regard to the aircraft? In regard to something else? To communicate? Did the tank have weapons? Did the aircraft? Was it a plane? Helicopter? Blimp? Other? Was there only 1 aircraft? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1510 Registered: 5-2003 |
Were they trying to hide from the aircraft? No. Why did they want to come out of the tank? To end the training? This. To do something in regard to the aircraft? In regard to something else? To communicate? None of the others. Did the tank have weapons? Yes, irrelevant. Did the aircraft? No. Was it a plane? Yope. Helicopter? Blimp? Other? Sorta. Was there only 1 aircraft? Yes. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 8 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did something happen to the aircraft (such as a crash), which made the question sarcastic? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 9 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did this happen on the axis side? Allied? Relevant? Was the aircraft a V1 flying bomb, or a V2 rocket? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1523 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did something happen to the aircraft (such as a crash), which made the question sarcastic? Yes. Did this happen on the axis side? Allied? This. Relevant? Not really. Was the aircraft a V1 flying bomb, or a V2 rocket? No to both. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 10 Registered: 9-2009 |
Would it help to figure out the nature of this aircraft? Is it used in war? You said earlier that there was more than one aircraft, and later that there was only one, which is correct? Or were there more aircraft, but only one represented danger? Was the aircraft destroyed? Deliberately? Were parts or other things falling from the aircraft? Or was it just a possibility? Was the aircraft experimental? Was it being towed, or did it fly under its own power? Was it manned? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1528 Registered: 5-2003 |
Would it help to figure out the nature of this aircraft? Oh, yes. Is it used in war? Yes. You said earlier that there was more than one aircraft, and later that there was only one, which is correct? Or were there more aircraft, but only one represented danger? This is accurate. Was the aircraft destroyed? Yes. Deliberately? No. Were parts or other things falling from the aircraft? Probably. Or was it just a possibility? Was the aircraft experimental? Noish. Was it being towed, This. or did it fly under its own power?} Was it manned? Yes. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 14 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it a manned glider being towed? Did it crash? Into the ground? Another aircraft? Destroyed by a weapon? Structural weakness/failure caused by the stress of normal operation? Abnormal operation? Was it towed behind an aircraft? Vehicle? Winch/catapult? Was it being used in an experimental fashion? Did its occupant(s) die? Did they expect/fear/know the aircraft could be destroyed, making the tank the safest place to stay for the moment? Or did the aircraft represent a danger to unprotected people on the ground during its normal operation? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 15 Registered: 9-2009 |
clarification: "they" = the tank crew. | ||
| Natanz (Natanz)
New member Username: Natanz Post Number: 103 Registered: 8-2009 |
Is the purpose of the aircraft: reconnaissance attacking other aircraft attacking tanks attacking buildings? attacking infantry? Other? How many people could fit in that aircraft? 1? 2? etc? Does it have wings? Rotor blades? Can it transform, such as a heli-plane (they probably didn't have that back then)? Is the role of the other aircraft relevant? Were those aircraft of the same type? Relevant? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1533 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was it a manned glider being towed? Yes. Did it crash? Yes. Into the ground? Yes. Another aircraft? No. Destroyed by a weapon? No. Structural weakness/failure caused by the stress of normal operation? Arguable. Abnormal operation? No. Was it towed behind an aircraft? Yes. Vehicle? Yes. Winch/catapult? No to both. Was it being used in an experimental fashion? Irrelevant. Did its occupant(s) die? No. Did they expect/fear/know the aircraft could be destroyed, making the tank the safest place to stay for the moment? Yope. Or did the aircraft represent a danger to unprotected people on the ground during its normal operation? No. Is the purpose of the aircraft: reconnaissance attacking other aircraft attacking tanks attacking buildings? attacking infantry? Other? This. How many people could fit in that aircraft? 1? 2? etc? 30. Does it have wings? Yes. Rotor blades? No. Can it transform, such as a heli-plane (they probably didn't have that back then)? No. Is the role of the other aircraft relevant? Yes. Were those aircraft of the same type? No. Relevant? Yes. | ||
| Scytale (Scytale)
New member Username: Scytale Post Number: 11 Registered: 6-2009 |
Did the glider have the tank inside it during its flight? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 17 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the tank at/near the end of a runway, with one or more planes, some/all with gliders in tow, taking off overhead? Were they transport gliders? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1537 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the glider have the tank inside it during its flight? Yes. **************** Spoiler **************** The 6th Airborne Armoured Renaissance Regiment (what a mouthful!) was the only unit ever to fly tanks into battle. There was much trial and error before it actually happened. The story goes that a newbie driver and his tank were loaded into a glider for a training flight, and the crew was ordered not to get out of the tank for anything until ordered. The glider was utterly demolished on landing, and the tank actually flew a hundred feet through the air and crashed into a house. Amazingly, the tank came out of this ordeal completely intact. After the driver plaintively asked his commander (or "skipper"), "Is it OK to get out now, skip?" | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 1143 Registered: 11-2008 |
Hahaha, this was good. I would never think it could have such a lateral solution. :-)) THank you, Jenburdoo! |
