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Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 452 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 7:58 pm: |      |
Unfortunately for them, the duck was faster. |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 432 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 8:17 pm: |      |
Duck: - to move (the head or body) quickly downwards or away? - small wild or domesticated web-footed broad-billed swimming bird usually having a depressed body and short legs? - submerge or plunge suddenly? - (cricket) a score of nothing by a batsman? - dip: dip into a liquid? - flesh of a duck (domestic or wild)? - hedge: avoid or try to avoid fulfilling, answering, or performing (duties, questions, or issues)? - a heavy cotton fabric of plain weave; used for clothing and tents ? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 454 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 8:39 pm: |      |
- to move (the head or body) quickly downwards or away? No. - small wild or domesticated web-footed broad-billed swimming bird usually having a depressed body and short legs? Yesish. - submerge or plunge suddenly? No. - (cricket) a score of nothing by a batsman? No. I'm German, so I know nothing of cricket. - dip: dip into a liquid? What dip? - flesh of a duck (domestic or wild)? No. - hedge: avoid or try to avoid fulfilling, answering, or performing (duties, questions, or issues)? No. - a heavy cotton fabric of plain weave; used for clothing and tents ? No. |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 433 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 9:20 pm: |      |
A real breathing duck? A picture of one? Them = HAMs? A competition? Did the duck beat them in something? Were they slower than the ducks. Death relevant? Era? Location? Occupation? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 457 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 9:26 pm: |      |
A real breathing duck? Noish. A picture of one? Yesish. Them = HAMs? H and A, probably mostly M. A competition? Noish. Did the duck beat them in something? Yesish. Were they slower than the ducks. Yesish. Death relevant? No. Era? 20th century. Location? Germany. Occupation? Specify. |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1656 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 3:16 am: |      |
Are any occupations relevant? Is the duck a decoy? Is it a false duck in some way? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 459 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 7:47 am: |      |
Are any occupations relevant? Yes. Is the duck a decoy? No. Is it a false duck in some way? Yesish. |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema
Post Number: 1362 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 8:42 am: |      |
Aircraft relevant? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 389 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 11:11 am: |      |
Technical literature relevant? Is the duck: an image? a painting/drawing? a wooden duck? another representation of a duck? a stuffed duck? a real but dead duck? Faster: speedier? Quicker reaction time? More than one duck involved? Hunting involved? Racing? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 460 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 5:41 pm: |      |
Aircraft relevant? No. Technical literature relevant? Yope. Is the duck: an image? Yesish. a painting/drawing? Yesish. a wooden duck? No. another representation of a duck? No. a stuffed duck? No. a real but dead duck? No. Faster: speedier? No. Quicker reaction time? Noish or Yope. More than one duck involved? Yes. Hunting involved? No. Racing? No. |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 459 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 8:17 pm: |      |
The drawing/painting of a duck was faster: to get the idea to depict in the first place? to draw/paint? to view? to use as a blueprint to construct some material object? "Faster" than another drawn/painted image? than some material object? than an action/activity? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 465 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 10:53 pm: |      |
The drawing/painting of a duck was faster: to get the idea to depict in the first place? to draw/paint? to view? to use as a blueprint to construct some material object? Thisish. "Faster" than another drawn/painted image? than some material object? than an action/activity? Thisish. |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 460 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 11:55 pm: |      |
So, it was faster (because it was easier?) to construct an object based on the image of the duck, than to perform some action? Was the object that was built itself in the shape of a duck? Was the action constructing another object? based on another drawing? and/or maybe implementing another method of fulfilling the same purpose as the duck-related object? |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
Moderator Username: Noobdogg
Post Number: 195 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 7:58 am: |      |
Is the duck on TV? Is someone trying to trace the image of a duck on paper? Is competition between 2 engineering companies relevant? Perhaps these (men) are employees of one and they are observing something about the other, perhaps trying to copy or reverse engineer (the duck)? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 466 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 4:25 pm: |      |
So, it was faster (because it was easier?) to construct an object based on the image of the duck, than to perform some action? No. Uh oh - looks like my last answers were really misleading. The "image of the duck" itself was faster - in a lateral way. Also, my "thisish" arguably was in the wrong place. So ***** BLOOPER ***** The drawing/painting of a duck was faster: to get the idea to depict in the first place? Yope. to draw/paint? to view? Yope. to use as a blueprint to construct some material object? Yope. ***** END OF BLOOPER Was the object that was built itself in the shape of a duck? No. In fact it's not really about building something. Was the action constructing another object? Yesish - but "constructing" may be misleading. based on another drawing? Irr. and/or maybe implementing another method of fulfilling the same purpose as the duck-related object? No. Hint: There is a very relevant question which was asked in the other duck-like puzzle but not yet here. |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 467 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 4:26 pm: |      |
Is the duck on TV? No, but... Is someone trying to trace the image of a duck on paper? No. Is competition between 2 engineering companies relevant? No. Perhaps these (men) are employees of one and they are observing something about the other, perhaps trying to copy or reverse engineer (the duck)? So, no. |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1061 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 4:30 pm: |      |
Is a human pretending to be a duck? A puppet? A mascot costume? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 470 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 7:13 pm: |      |
Is a human pretending to be a duck? A puppet? A mascot costume? No to all. |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1063 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 7:55 pm: |      |
Since Germany in the 20th century is relevant, is WWI relevant? WWII? Is it a cartoon duck? In a movie? On a poster? Does this have anything to do with the patriotic cartoons about joining in the war effort that featured a cartoon duck? (I seem to recall the song "Over There" playing in one of them) Was it Daffy Duck? Donald Duck? Is propaganda relevant? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 473 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 8:01 pm: |      |
Since Germany in the 20th century is relevant This is a true story. It could have happened elsewhere but not everywhere., is WWI relevant? No. WWII? No. Just don't mention the War. Is it a cartoon duck? YES. In a movie? No. On a poster? No. Does this have anything to do with the patriotic cartoons about joining in the war effort that featured a cartoon duck? No. (I seem to recall the song "Over There" playing in one of them) Was it Daffy Duck? No. Donald Duck? YES. Is propaganda relevant? No. |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1064 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:41 pm: |      |
Were they other cartoon characters? Cartoon illustrators? Cartoon viewers? An advertising company? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 474 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:49 pm: |      |
Were they other cartoon characters? Cartoon illustrators? Cartoon viewers? An advertising company? Remarkably, no to all. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 431 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:01 pm: |      |
Animation relevant? Comics? Popularity of Donald? The time he was created? Or became popular? Does the puzzle take place inside a Donald Duck cartoon or comic? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 479 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:07 pm: |      |
Animation relevant? No. Comics? Yes. Popularity of Donald? Noish. The time he was created? No. Or became popular? No. Does the puzzle take place inside a Donald Duck cartoon or comic? Part of it. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 434 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:37 pm: |      |
Them=real live non-fictional humans? Is Donald "faster" inside the cartoon? Faster=quicker? Speedier? Better reaction time? Head start relevant? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 480 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:46 pm: |      |
Them=real live non-fictional humans? Yes. Is Donald "faster" inside the cartoon? Yope. Faster=quicker? Yesish. Speedier? No. Better reaction time? No. Head start relevant? Noish or Yope. |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 1071 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:56 pm: |      |
Was donald faster than another well-known comic character? Faster than an obscure comic/cartoon character? Faster than another comic/cartoon duck? If another comic/cartoon character is relevant, is it a human character? An animal character? Other? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 481 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 1:27 pm: |      |
Was donald faster than another well-known comic character? Faster than an obscure comic/cartoon character? Faster than another comic/cartoon duck? No to all. If another comic/cartoon character is relevant, is it a human character? An animal character? Other? No other comic character is relevant. |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 1683 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 4:43 am: |      |
Anything to do with Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Another live-action/animated crossover? |
Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner
Post Number: 574 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 8:06 am: |      |
Did Donald Duck do/say something before *** happened? Did a Donald Duck comic appear in some country earlier than expected? Did some event/idea/invention appear in a DD comic before it appeared in real life? Did some episode from a DD comic repeat later in real life? As it was unfortunate for "them", did they lose money? reputation? business opportunities? something else? did "they" have to do additional work? to overcome trouble? Am I right assuming that "they" are not from the U.S.? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 488 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 8:58 am: |      |
Anything to do with Who Framed Roger Rabbit? No. Another live-action/animated crossover? No. Did Donald Duck do/say something before *** happened? Yesish. Did a Donald Duck comic appear in some country earlier than expected? No. Did some event/idea/invention appear in a DD comic before it appeared in real life? YES. Did some episode from a DD comic repeat later in real life? Yope. As it was unfortunate for "them", did they lose money? Probably. reputation? No. business opportunities? Yes. something else? did "they" have to do additional work? to overcome trouble? No to the rest. Am I right assuming that "they" are not from the U.S.? Yes, I think so. Also, I must add to what I said about the location. While Germany is a relevant location, Denmark and the Netherlands are equally relevant. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 442 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 9:19 am: |      |
Carl Barks relevant? Are we speaking about an idea? Invention? Patents relevant? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 489 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 9:24 am: |      |
Carl Barks relevant? Yes. Are we speaking about an idea? Yes. Invention? Yes. Patents relevant? YES. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 446 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:00 am: |      |
Did they invent something, but before they could patent it, the invention showed up in a Barks story? Did that mean they couldn't patent it? Or couldn't base a business around it? Marine salvage relevant? I'm a Barks fan so I have probably read the comic, but I haven't heard this story before. Interesting (: |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 490 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 11:14 am: |      |
Did they invent something, but before they could patent it, the invention showed up in a Barks story? Yesish. Did that mean they couldn't patent it? Yes. Or couldn't base a business around it? They could - but only without patent protection. Marine salvage relevant? Yes. I see you found the solution. ===== SPOILER ===== This is the story of the Danish engineer Karl Krøyer and the German chemical company BASF he was working for. Krøyer developed a method for raising sunken ships by filling them with foamed polystyrene (Styropor, Styrofoam). When Krøyer and BASF tried to patent the method an examiner at the Dutch patent office remembered to have seen something similar years ago - in a Donald Duck comic strip where Donald fills a sunken ship with ping pong balls to raise it. So the patent was refused because of existing prior art. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 451 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 3:15 pm: |      |
Cool story and puzzle (: The comic in question can be found here: http://disneycomics.free.fr/Ducks/Barks/show.php?loc=1949/W_WDC_104-02 |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 468 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 7:38 am: |      |
So inventions in works of fiction count as real inventions??? Does that mean that flying cars and the like will be un-patentable if ever invented? |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 493 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 10:46 am: |      |
So inventions in works of fiction count as real inventions??? Inventions can be real inventions even if the inventor uses a work of fiction to describe it. Does that mean that flying cars and the like will be un-patentable if ever invented? If a published work of fiction describes a working method to make a car fly, this method is no longer patentable. Just showing a flying car isn't enough. |
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo
Post Number: 25 Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 7:29 pm: |      |
Arthur C. Clarke described telecommunication satellites in a story (can't remember which one; the dude's prolific), long before Sputnik, and as I understand it, should have patented them. Don't know the eventual disposition of that situation, but apparently it's similar, at any rate. |