[markobr] Technical Literature Log Out | Topics | Search
Moderators | Register | Edit Profile

Lateral Puzzles » Solved Lateral Thinking Puzzles » Solved Puzzles - November 2009 » [markobr] Technical Literature « Previous Next »

Author Message
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 452
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 7:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Unfortunately for them, the duck was faster.
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member
Username: Quovynyte

Post Number: 432
Registered: 6-2009
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 8:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Duck:
- to move (the head or body) quickly downwards or away?
- small wild or domesticated web-footed broad-billed swimming bird usually having a depressed body and short legs?
- submerge or plunge suddenly?
- (cricket) a score of nothing by a batsman?
- dip: dip into a liquid?
- flesh of a duck (domestic or wild)?
- hedge: avoid or try to avoid fulfilling, answering, or performing (duties, questions, or issues)?
- a heavy cotton fabric of plain weave; used for clothing and tents ?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 454
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 8:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

- to move (the head or body) quickly downwards or away? No.
- small wild or domesticated web-footed broad-billed swimming bird usually having a depressed body and short legs? Yesish.
- submerge or plunge suddenly? No.
- (cricket) a score of nothing by a batsman? No. I'm German, so I know nothing of cricket.
- dip: dip into a liquid? What dip?
- flesh of a duck (domestic or wild)? No.
- hedge: avoid or try to avoid fulfilling, answering, or performing (duties, questions, or issues)? No.
- a heavy cotton fabric of plain weave; used for clothing and tents ? No.
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member
Username: Quovynyte

Post Number: 433
Registered: 6-2009
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 9:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A real breathing duck?
A picture of one?
Them = HAMs?
A competition? Did the duck beat them in something?
Were they slower than the ducks.
Death relevant?
Era? Location? Occupation?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 457
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A real breathing duck? Noish.
A picture of one? Yesish.
Them = HAMs? H and A, probably mostly M.
A competition? Noish. Did the duck beat them in something? Yesish.
Were they slower than the ducks. Yesish.
Death relevant? No.
Era? 20th century. Location? Germany. Occupation? Specify.
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member
Username: Jenburdoo

Post Number: 1656
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 3:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are any occupations relevant? Is the duck a decoy? Is it a false duck in some way?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 459
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 7:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are any occupations relevant? Yes. Is the duck a decoy? No. Is it a false duck in some way? Yesish.
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 1362
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 8:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aircraft relevant?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member
Username: Galfisk

Post Number: 389
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Technical literature relevant? Is the duck: an image? a painting/drawing? a wooden duck? another representation of a duck? a stuffed duck? a real but dead duck?
Faster: speedier? Quicker reaction time?
More than one duck involved? Hunting involved? Racing?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 460
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 5:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aircraft relevant? No.

Technical literature relevant? Yope. Is the duck: an image? Yesish. a painting/drawing? Yesish. a wooden duck? No. another representation of a duck? No. a stuffed duck? No. a real but dead duck? No.
Faster: speedier? No. Quicker reaction time? Noish or Yope.
More than one duck involved? Yes. Hunting involved? No. Racing? No.
Biograd (Biograd)
New member
Username: Biograd

Post Number: 459
Registered: 6-2008
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 8:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The drawing/painting of a duck was faster:
to get the idea to depict in the first place? to draw/paint? to view? to use as a blueprint to construct some material object?

"Faster" than another drawn/painted image? than some material object? than an action/activity?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 465
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The drawing/painting of a duck was faster:
to get the idea to depict in the first place? to draw/paint? to view? to use as a blueprint to construct some material object? Thisish.

"Faster" than another drawn/painted image? than some material object? than an action/activity? Thisish.
Biograd (Biograd)
New member
Username: Biograd

Post Number: 460
Registered: 6-2008
Posted on Monday, November 02, 2009 - 11:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, it was faster (because it was easier?) to construct an object based on the image of the duck, than to perform some action?

Was the object that was built itself in the shape of a duck?

Was the action constructing another object? based on another drawing? and/or maybe implementing another method of fulfilling the same purpose as the duck-related object?
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
Moderator
Username: Noobdogg

Post Number: 195
Registered: 3-2009
Posted on Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 7:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the duck on TV? Is someone trying to trace the image of a duck on paper?

Is competition between 2 engineering companies relevant? Perhaps these (men) are employees of one and they are observing something about the other, perhaps trying to copy or reverse engineer (the duck)?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 466
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 4:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, it was faster (because it was easier?) to construct an object based on the image of the duck, than to perform some action? No. Uh oh - looks like my last answers were really misleading. The "image of the duck" itself was faster - in a lateral way. Also, my "thisish" arguably was in the wrong place. So

***** BLOOPER *****


The drawing/painting of a duck was faster:
to get the idea to depict in the first place? Yope. to draw/paint? to view? Yope. to use as a blueprint to construct some material object? Yope.


***** END OF BLOOPER


Was the object that was built itself in the shape of a duck? No. In fact it's not really about building something.

Was the action constructing another object? Yesish - but "constructing" may be misleading. based on another drawing? Irr. and/or maybe implementing another method of fulfilling the same purpose as the duck-related object? No.

Hint: There is a very relevant question which was asked in the other duck-like puzzle but not yet here.
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 467
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 4:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the duck on TV? No, but... Is someone trying to trace the image of a duck on paper? No.

Is competition between 2 engineering companies relevant? No. Perhaps these (men) are employees of one and they are observing something about the other, perhaps trying to copy or reverse engineer (the duck)? So, no.
Noel (Noel)
New member
Username: Noel

Post Number: 1061
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 4:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is a human pretending to be a duck? A puppet? A mascot costume?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 470
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 7:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is a human pretending to be a duck? A puppet? A mascot costume? No to all.
Noel (Noel)
New member
Username: Noel

Post Number: 1063
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 7:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since Germany in the 20th century is relevant, is WWI relevant? WWII?

Is it a cartoon duck? In a movie? On a poster? Does this have anything to do with the patriotic cartoons about joining in the war effort that featured a cartoon duck? (I seem to recall the song "Over There" playing in one of them) Was it Daffy Duck? Donald Duck?

Is propaganda relevant?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 473
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 8:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since Germany in the 20th century is relevant This is a true story. It could have happened elsewhere but not everywhere., is WWI relevant? No. WWII? No. Just don't mention the War.

Is it a cartoon duck? YES. In a movie? No. On a poster? No. Does this have anything to do with the patriotic cartoons about joining in the war effort that featured a cartoon duck? No. (I seem to recall the song "Over There" playing in one of them) Was it Daffy Duck? No. Donald Duck? YES.

Is propaganda relevant? No.
Noel (Noel)
New member
Username: Noel

Post Number: 1064
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they other cartoon characters? Cartoon illustrators? Cartoon viewers? An advertising company?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 474
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they other cartoon characters? Cartoon illustrators? Cartoon viewers? An advertising company? Remarkably, no to all.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member
Username: Galfisk

Post Number: 431
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Animation relevant? Comics? Popularity of Donald? The time he was created? Or became popular? Does the puzzle take place inside a Donald Duck cartoon or comic?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 479
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Animation relevant? No. Comics? Yes. Popularity of Donald? Noish. The time he was created? No. Or became popular? No. Does the puzzle take place inside a Donald Duck cartoon or comic? Part of it.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member
Username: Galfisk

Post Number: 434
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Them=real live non-fictional humans?
Is Donald "faster" inside the cartoon?
Faster=quicker? Speedier? Better reaction time? Head start relevant?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 480
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Them=real live non-fictional humans? Yes.
Is Donald "faster" inside the cartoon? Yope.
Faster=quicker? Yesish. Speedier? No. Better reaction time? No. Head start relevant? Noish or Yope.
Noel (Noel)
New member
Username: Noel

Post Number: 1071
Registered: 7-2009
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was donald faster than another well-known comic character? Faster than an obscure comic/cartoon character? Faster than another comic/cartoon duck? If another comic/cartoon character is relevant, is it a human character? An animal character? Other?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 481
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 1:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was donald faster than another well-known comic character? Faster than an obscure comic/cartoon character? Faster than another comic/cartoon duck? No to all. If another comic/cartoon character is relevant, is it a human character? An animal character? Other? No other comic character is relevant.
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member
Username: Jenburdoo

Post Number: 1683
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 4:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Another live-action/animated crossover?
Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member
Username: Sundowner

Post Number: 574
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 8:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Donald Duck do/say something before *** happened? Did a Donald Duck comic appear in some country earlier than expected?
Did some event/idea/invention appear in a DD comic before it appeared in real life?
Did some episode from a DD comic repeat later in real life?
As it was unfortunate for "them", did they lose money? reputation? business opportunities? something else? did "they" have to do additional work? to overcome trouble?
Am I right assuming that "they" are not from the U.S.?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 488
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 8:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with Who Framed Roger Rabbit? No. Another live-action/animated crossover? No.

Did Donald Duck do/say something before *** happened? Yesish. Did a Donald Duck comic appear in some country earlier than expected? No.
Did some event/idea/invention appear in a DD comic before it appeared in real life? YES.
Did some episode from a DD comic repeat later in real life? Yope.
As it was unfortunate for "them", did they lose money? Probably. reputation? No. business opportunities? Yes. something else? did "they" have to do additional work? to overcome trouble? No to the rest.
Am I right assuming that "they" are not from the U.S.? Yes, I think so. Also, I must add to what I said about the location. While Germany is a relevant location, Denmark and the Netherlands are equally relevant.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member
Username: Galfisk

Post Number: 442
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 9:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carl Barks relevant? Are we speaking about an idea? Invention? Patents relevant?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 489
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 9:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carl Barks relevant? Yes. Are we speaking about an idea? Yes. Invention? Yes. Patents relevant? YES.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member
Username: Galfisk

Post Number: 446
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they invent something, but before they could patent it, the invention showed up in a Barks story? Did that mean they couldn't patent it? Or couldn't base a business around it?
Marine salvage relevant?

I'm a Barks fan so I have probably read the comic, but I haven't heard this story before. Interesting (:
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 490
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 11:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they invent something, but before they could patent it, the invention showed up in a Barks story? Yesish. Did that mean they couldn't patent it? Yes. Or couldn't base a business around it? They could - but only without patent protection.
Marine salvage relevant? Yes. I see you found the solution.

===== SPOILER =====

This is the story of the Danish engineer Karl Kr°yer and the German chemical company BASF he was working for. Kr°yer developed a method for raising sunken ships by filling them with foamed polystyrene (Styropor, Styrofoam). When Kr°yer and BASF tried to patent the method an examiner at the Dutch patent office remembered to have seen something similar years ago - in a Donald Duck comic strip where Donald fills a sunken ship with ping pong balls to raise it. So the patent was refused because of existing prior art.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member
Username: Galfisk

Post Number: 451
Registered: 9-2009
Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 3:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cool story and puzzle (:
The comic in question can be found here: http://disneycomics.free.fr/Ducks/Barks/show.php?loc=1949/W_WDC_104-02
Biograd (Biograd)
New member
Username: Biograd

Post Number: 468
Registered: 6-2008
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 7:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So inventions in works of fiction count as real inventions???

Does that mean that flying cars and the like will be un-patentable if ever invented?
Markobr (Markobr)
New member
Username: Markobr

Post Number: 493
Registered: 5-2009
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 10:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So inventions in works of fiction count as real inventions??? Inventions can be real inventions even if the inventor uses a work of fiction to describe it.

Does that mean that flying cars and the like will be un-patentable if ever invented? If a published work of fiction describes a working method to make a car fly, this method is no longer patentable. Just showing a flying car isn't enough.
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member
Username: Yojimbo

Post Number: 25
Registered: 11-2009
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 7:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Arthur C. Clarke described telecommunication satellites in a story (can't remember which one; the dude's prolific), long before Sputnik, and as I understand it, should have patented them. Don't know the eventual disposition of that situation, but apparently it's similar, at any rate.

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Username: Posting Information:
This is a private posting area. Only registered users and moderators may post messages here.
Password:
Options: Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action: