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Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 16 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 10:03 pm: |      |
The blue lines did not connect, so she touched the lid. |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 17 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 10:05 pm: |      |
Sorry, I forget to put the name on the title. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1168 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 19, 2010 - 10:39 pm: |      |
Did they connect when she touched the lid? Was it safe to touch the lid because they didn't connect? Did the move the lid? Move something else? Electricity relevant? Is there electricity in the blue lines? Or are they drawn? Printed? Are they markings? Are they in a display image? Did she want the blue lines to connect? Did she disconnect them? Is she playing a game? Electronics relevant? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 19 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 1:06 am: |      |
Did they connect when she touched the lid? no. Was it safe to touch the lid because they didn't connect? it was safe to touch the lid either way. Did the move the lid? yes, she moved the lid. Move something else? this too. Electricity relevant? no. Is there electricity in the blue lines? no relevant electricity. Or are they drawn? Printed? this. Are they markings? yes. Are they in a display image? define display image. Did she want the blue lines to connect? yes. Did she disconnect them? no. Is she playing a game? no. Electronics relevant? no. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1170 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 1:44 am: |      |
She=H/A/F? Is she doing a job? Sports invovled? Is what she's doing part of a process to get the lines connected? Do the lines represent something? Will something else also be connected, once the lines are? Are the lines part og a gaugin mechanism? Is the blue color relevant? Are the lines thicker than: a hair? Pencil mark? Pencil? Finger? Arm? Human? Are they on a surface? If so, on: metal? Plastic? Wood? Glass? Fabric? Other man-made material? Natural material? Living tissue? Medicine relevant? Is the manner in which she touches the lid relevant? If so, does she: press? Lift? Twist? Flip? Stroke? Lightly touch? Are the lines (or part of them) on the lid? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 22 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 1:55 am: |      |
She=H/A/F? H, rest irrelevant. Is she doing a job? yes, in a way. Sports invovled? no. Is what she's doing part of a process to get the lines connected? no. You seem to have a small FA, although you haven't explicitly stated it yet. Do the lines represent something? yes. Will something else also be connected, once the lines are? FA. The lines will most likely never be connected. Are the lines part og a gaugin mechanism? no. Is the blue color relevant? These lines are normally blue. Are the lines thicker than: a hair? Pencil mark? Pencil? Finger? Arm? Human? most likely thinner than a hair. Are they on a surface? If so, on: metal? Plastic? Wood? Glass? Fabric? Other man-made material? yes, paper. Natural material? Living tissue? Medicine relevant? Is the manner in which she touches the lid relevant? If so, does she: press? Lift? this. Twist? Flip? Stroke? Lightly touch? Are the lines (or part of them) on the lid? no. Great questions. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1172 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 2:03 am: |      |
Can she not do anything to connect the lines? Are they a result of something? And disconnected lines show an undesirable result for her? Pregnancy test relevant? Other sort of medical test? Other test? Are the lines (part of) a graph? Are they made by a machine? Does she want to get to something that is behind/under the lid? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 2:33 am: |      |
Can she not do anything to connect the lines? she could very easily, but it wouldn't do any good. Are they a result of something? explain. And disconnected lines show an undesirable result for her? sort of. Pregnancy test relevant? Other sort of medical test? Other test? none of these tests. Are the lines (part of) a graph? define graph. Are they made by a machine? yes. Does she want to get to something that is behind/under the lid? yope. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1176 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 10:29 am: |      |
Are the disconnected lines the result of a: Measurement? Test? Experiment? Thermometer relevant? More people relevant? Her profession relevant? Is she looking at the lines with her naked eye? Or are they magnified? Is part of the line printed on something that can move? And the movement causes them to be disconnected? Science relevant? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 6:02 pm: |      |
Are the disconnected lines the result of a: Measurement? noish. Test? no. Experiment? no. Thermometer relevant? no. More people relevant? no. Her profession relevant? yes. Is she looking at the lines with her naked eye? yes. Or are they magnified? no. Is part of the line printed on something that can move? not by itself, but a person could easily move it. And the movement causes them to be disconnected? no. Science relevant? This is tough I'll say noish. |
Biograd (Biograd)
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Post Number: 623 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 6:59 pm: |      |
Were the blue lines on the lid? somewhere else on the object that had the relevant lid? on something else entirely? Were the lines meant to be instructive in some manner, conveying what she was supposed to do? Was the lines not being connected an error on the part of the machine that drew them? on the part of a human who operated that machine? did whoever set up the machine to make the lines intend for her to touch the lid? to touch something else? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1179 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 7:26 pm: |      |
Is her profession related to: Artistic? Musical? Agriculture? Hunter? Fisherman? Banking? Financial? Real estate? Clerical? Administrative? Receptionist? Computer related? Hardware? Information technology? Construction? Craftsman? Criminal? Jailbird? Education? Academic Research? Entertainment? Media? Executive? Management? Hospitality? Travel? Food Service? Law enforcement? Police? Legal Services? Manufacturing? Distributions? Medical? Health Services? Politics? Government? Military? Sales? Marketing? Tradesman? Religion? Retired person? Occupational disease? Sports? Student? Trainee? Teaching? Child care? Technical? Science? Engineering? Transportation? Unemployed? Writer? Editor? Translator? Interpreter? Other? Are the lines on a regular sheet of paper? Are they a schematic? Did she make the machine draw the lines? Is "draw" a suitable word? Or print? Is it from a printer? Is the lid on the printer? Is she changing a cartridge? Or adding more ink/toner? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 36 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 7:57 pm: |      |
Were the blue lines on the lid? no. somewhere else on the object that had the relevant lid? no. on something else entirely? yes. Were the lines meant to be instructive in some manner, conveying what she was supposed to do? no. Was the lines not being connected an error on the part of the machine that drew them? no.on the part of a human who operated that machine? no. did whoever set up the machine to make the lines intend for her to touch the lid? no. to touch something else? no. Is her profession related to: Artistic? Musical? Agriculture? Hunter? Fisherman? Banking? Financial? Real estate? Clerical? Administrative? Receptionist? Computer related? Hardware? Information technology? Construction? Craftsman? Criminal? Jailbird? Education? Academic Research? Entertainment? Media? Executive? Management? Hospitality? Travel? Food Service? Law enforcement? Police? Legal Services? Manufacturing? Distributions? Medical? Health Services? Politics? Government? Military? Sales? Marketing? Tradesman? Religion? Retired person? Occupational disease? Sports? Student? Trainee? Teaching? Child care? Technical? Science? Engineering? Transportation? Unemployed? Writer? this. Editor? Translator? Interpreter? Other? Are the lines on a regular sheet of paper? not really. Are they a schematic? I don't think so. Did she make the machine draw the lines? no. Is "draw" a suitable word? Or print? this would be suitable. Is it from a printer? Is the lid on the printer? Is she changing a cartridge? Or adding more ink/toner? no to all, but good ideas. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1181 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 8:22 pm: |      |
Are there two lines that don't connect? More than two? Are the lines straight? Are they on the same piece of paper? Do they show that she needs to do something? Involving the lid? After she does it, will a new set of lines be printed? Is she doing anything affecting the printing of the lines? Can she? Or are they preprinted? Are the blue lines on writing paper? Is what she's doing related to her writing? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 42 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 1:23 am: |      |
Are there two lines that don't connect? yes. More than two? so no. Are the lines straight? no. Are they on the same piece of paper? yes. Do they show that she needs to do something? yes, but beware of FA. Involving the lid? yes, but still beware. After she does it, will a new set of lines be printed? probably, but not as a result of her. And they will almost definitely be the same. Is she doing anything affecting the printing of the lines? no. Can she? I suppose she could, but it would accomplish nothing. Or are they preprinted? yes. Are the blue lines on writing paper? no. Is what she's doing related to her writing? yes. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1191 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 8:09 am: |      |
Do the lines show that something has happened? Do they form symbols? Words? Images? Relevant what kind of writer she is? Is the paper flat? Is it a strip of paper? Or a sheet? can the apparatus printing be described as a: printer? Plotter? Printing press? Typewriter? Is it a trace? Like an EEG? If the lines were connected, would they: be connected end to end? Cross? Overlap? Completely? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 45 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 12:29 pm: |      |
Do the lines show that something has happened? no. Do they form symbols? Words? Images? I guess this. Relevant what kind of writer she is? yes. Is the paper flat? yes. Is it a strip of paper? Or a sheet? I guess this. can the apparatus printing be described as a: printer? Plotter? maybe this, but not entirely sure. However, the printing apparatus isn't very relevant. Printing press? Typewriter? Is it a trace? Like an EEG? If the lines were connected, would they: be connected end to end? this. Cross? Overlap? Completely? |
Biograd (Biograd)
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Post Number: 624 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 6:35 pm: |      |
Are they "lines" in the sense one could draw them in a continuous stroke with a pen or pencil? or are they formed by a string or series of symbols (dots, text characters, etc.)? Is the only meaningful fact about these lines whether they connect? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 47 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 7:18 pm: |      |
Are they "lines" in the sense one could draw them in a continuous stroke with a pen or pencil? this. or are they formed by a string or series of symbols (dots, text characters, etc.)? not this. Is the only meaningful fact about these lines whether they connect? Other things are relevant, such as the blue color, but the lack of connectedness is the only thing that affects her decision to touch the lid. |
Oisin (Oisin)
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Post Number: 250 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 7:28 pm: |      |
Is it relevant that the lines are blue? could they have been any other colour with the same result? The lid: eyelid? a container of some sort? (and if so, the lid of a box? a jar? a cooking pot? teapot? coffeepot?) a laptop lid? If it is the lid of a container, is it relevant what is inside the container? Is she checking that the lid is open? that it is shut? Does touching the lid perform another function, such as making a noise? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 48 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 8:29 pm: |      |
Is it relevant that the lines are blue? could they have been any other colour with the same result? They could have, but the type of lines we are talking about are usually blue. They are also sometimes black, gray, or white. The lid: eyelid? a container of some sort? (and if so, the lid of a box? a jar? this is closest, but not quite. a cooking pot? teapot? coffeepot?) a laptop lid? If it is the lid of a container, is it relevant what is inside the container? there are most likely things inside, but it isn't relevant what. Is she checking that the lid is open? that it is shut? no to both. Does touching the lid perform another function, yes, if I understand you correctly. such as making a noise? but not this. |
Oisin (Oisin)
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Post Number: 251 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 8:57 pm: |      |
when she touches the lid to lift it, does she then place something in the container? (and if so, does she place the paper in the container? Is she disposing of it as waste?) remove something from the container? Does she have to lift the lid in the same place? (for example, is there a catch she has to lift, or a switch she has to press?) Does the act of lifting the lid communicate something to another person? operate a counter? The lines: are they straight lines? lines with a geometrical curve? contour lines on a map? if the lines touched, would they do so end to end? or at an angle? Is there anything else relevant printed on the page? Is she sorting through a number of papers, on some of which the lines connect? Does she not touch the lid in the latter event? She is a writer: a novelist? poet? technical writer? copywriter? journalist? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 49 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 9:23 pm: |      |
when she touches the lid to lift it, does she then place something in the container? yes. (and if so, does she place the paper in the container? no, not THE paper. Is she disposing of it as waste? yes.) remove something from the container? no. Does she have to lift the lid in the same place? (for example, is there a catch she has to lift, or a switch she has to press?) no. Does the act of lifting the lid communicate something to another person? operate a counter? no to all of these. The lines: are they straight lines? lines with a geometrical curve? contour lines on a map? this is closest, but not quite. if the lines touched, would they do so end to end? this. or at an angle? Is there anything else relevant printed on the page? there are other things printed on the page, and I guess you could say they are relevant. Is she sorting through a number of papers, on some of which the lines connect? no. Does she not touch the lid in the latter event? so no. She is a writer: a novelist? this. poet? technical writer? copywriter? journalist? Oisin, I believe you've just cracked open this puzzle. |
Biograd (Biograd)
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Post Number: 625 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 11:29 pm: |      |
So the lid is the lid of a garbage can? Can the puzzle statement be rephrased as, "the blue lines did not connect, so she threw it in the trash"? Are the blue lines editing marks of some kind? are they part of an illustration in a book? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 58 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 11:36 pm: |      |
So the lid is the lid of a garbage can? Can the puzzle statement be rephrased as, "the blue lines did not connect, so she threw it in the trash"? yes to all. I decided to phrase it as I did simply to make it more challenging. But remember, you still don't know what "it" is in this statement. Are the blue lines editing marks of some kind? are they part of an illustration in a book? no to all. The closest anyone has gotten so far to figuring out what the lines are is map contours. |
Oisin (Oisin)
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Post Number: 254 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 9:03 am: |      |
Are the lines a feature on a map? If so: river? road? grid line? line of latitude? longitude? tropic? equator? So she didn't throw the sheet with the blue lines into the bin. Did she throw a different piece of paper in the bin? One sheet? A number of sheets? Did this discarded piece of paper have writing on it? Part of her novel? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1194 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 10:48 am: |      |
Was she doing fact checking? And he blue lines showed that she was mistaken about something? So she threw away something she had written that didn't fit the facts? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 65 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 6:08 pm: |      |
Are the lines a feature on a map? YES! If so: river? this. road? grid line? line of latitude? longitude? tropic? equator? So she didn't throw the sheet with the blue lines into the bin. Did she throw a different piece of paper in the bin? One sheet? A number of sheets? this. Did this discarded piece of paper have writing on it? Part of her novel? yes. Was she doing fact checking? And he blue lines showed that she was mistaken about something? So she threw away something she had written that didn't fit the facts? yes to all. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1198 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 8:18 pm: |      |
Is there more to this, than: She writes something involving two rivers, implying that they are connected. When she sees on a map that they are not, she throws what she's written in the trash (in the name of factual accuracy?). |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 72 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 8:29 pm: |      |
Is there more to this, than: She writes something involving two rivers, implying that they are connected. When she sees on a map that they are not, she throws what she's written in the trash (in the name of factual accuracy?). you have the crux of the answer. All you need to figure out is what these two rivers are. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1205 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 8:44 pm: |      |
Are the rivers in: Canada? Neighboring island? United States? Mexico? Central America? Caribbean? Brazil? Southern South America? Northern South America? Western Europe? Scandinavia? Eastern Europe? Middle East? Siberia? Central Asia? East Asia? Southeast Asia? South Asia? North Africa? Southern Africa? East Africa? West Africa? Central Africa? Horn of Africa? Australia? Oceania? Other island that doesn't fit into these categories? Are they in different parts of the world? Are their names similar? Identical? Did she mistake one for the other? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 77 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 8:48 pm: |      |
Are the rivers in: Canada? Neighboring island? United States? this. You get the prize for inserting my LTPF list of geographical regions. Mexico? Central America? Caribbean? Brazil? Southern South America? Northern South America? Western Europe? Scandinavia? Eastern Europe? Middle East? Siberia? Central Asia? East Asia? Southeast Asia? South Asia? North Africa? Southern Africa? East Africa? West Africa? Central Africa? Horn of Africa? Australia? Oceania? Other island that doesn't fit into these categories? Are they in different parts of the world? Are their names similar? Identical? Did she mistake one for the other? nay to all of 'em. |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 78 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 8:51 pm: |      |
**********SEMI-BLOOPER***************** Part of one river is in Canada, but the relevant parts are both in the good ol' USA. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1208 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 8:53 pm: |      |
Is Missouri one of them? Mississippi? Hudson river? Yukon river? That's the limit of the off-the-top-of-my-head knowledge of US rivers... |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 82 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 9:01 pm: |      |
Is Missouri one of them? Mississippi? Hudson river? Yukon river? That's the limit of the off-the-top-of-my-head knowledge of US rivers... no to all. If I were you, I would narrow it down by state. And googling/looking at maps is perfectly fine.} |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 83 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 9:02 pm: |      |
Is Missouri one of them? Mississippi? Hudson river? Yukon river? That's the limit of the off-the-top-of-my-head knowledge of US rivers... no to all. If I were you, I would narrow it down by state. And googling/looking at maps is perfectly fine. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 1224 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 23, 2010 - 6:08 pm: |      |
Does the first river run through [list of US states]? How about the second? Was her mistake understandable? Is confusion of state names relevant? Confusion of other names of places? |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 91 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 12:31 am: |      |
Does the first river run through [list of US states]? Both Dakotas and Minnesota. How about the second? South Dakota and Minnesota. Was her mistake understandable? yes. I made this mistake once. Is confusion of state names relevant? Confusion of other names of places? no to both. |
Biograd (Biograd)
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Post Number: 627 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 4:49 am: |      |
I'm pretty sure this is it: The Red River flows north from Lake Traverse, along the border between North Dakota and Minnesota. Lake Traverse is less than ten miles north of Big Stone Lake, from which the Minnesota River flows south. As the rivers flow in opposite directions, they clearly cannot be connected. |
Hominid (Hominid)
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Post Number: 96 Registered: 1-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 1:12 pm: |      |
************SPOILER******************** I'm pretty sure this is it: The Red River flows north from Lake Traverse, along the border between North Dakota and Minnesota. Lake Traverse is less than ten miles north of Big Stone Lake, from which the Minnesota River flows south. As the rivers flow in opposite directions, they clearly cannot be connected. A woman writes a novel in which she assumes that the Red and Minnesota Rivers are connected. She looks on a map, finds out she is wrong, and throws her novel away. I know it's a bit far-fetched. |