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Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 8:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Apparently many people believed it got heavier at certain times.

If like me you love the TV panel game QI then you may have heard this . If you don't like QI then you should because there are tons of potential laterals in each show
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Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 8:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did it REALLY get heavier at certain times?

Is the puzzle title relevant?
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Is it bigger than a breadbox?

Heavier in sense of weight? Mass?
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Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 11:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did it REALLY get heavier at certain times? No

Is the puzzle title relevant? No... can you guess where i got it though

Is it bigger than a breadbox? Yes

Heavier in sense of weight? Yes Mass?
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Was it a scrund on their behalf? If so, Active/Passive?

Is this a misconception? Based on not understanding the science of it? Gravity relevant at all?
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Superman relevant ;-) ?

Would the belief of the people fall under the definition of a scrund?

Material relevant? If so, is it man-made? Natural?

"certain times" - under different conditions? If so, is it on Earth? Speed relevant?
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Lol @Alhucema's almost simultaneous post. Looks like Nimue is brainwashing us all! :-D
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Was it a scrund on their behalf? yes If so, Active/Passive? Probably active though I'm not sure of the difference

Is this a misconception? yesish Based on not understanding the science of it? yesish Gravity relevant at all? Not especially

Superman relevant ;-) ? No

Would the belief of the people fall under the definition of a scrund? yes

Material relevant? yesish If so, is it man-made? the it in the puzzle statement is man-made Natural? No

"certain times" - under different conditions? not really If so, is it on Earth? It is and there are more than one of it Speed relevant? No
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Is it something people try to lift? Try to move in any other way? Does it in fact change in any way at certain times?

Do people think it is heavier because it is attached to something? Because of surrounding magnetism? Because of something relevant about their own bodies? Because of the way it looks?

Thank you for the introduction to QI, by the way, it's hilarious.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 10:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it something people try to lift? On occasion yes Try to move in any other way? they could do but lifting is the key Does it in fact change in any way at certain times? No

Do people think it is heavier because it is attached to something? No Because of surrounding magnetism? No Because of something relevant about their own bodies? No Because of the way it looks? No

Thank you for the introduction to QI, by the way, it's hilarious.My pleasure. I just love Stephen Fry
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Do they think it's heavier only when they're trying to lift it? Do they think it's heavier only when they're not trying to lift it?

Does something go inside it? Do they think something goes inside it? Does something get removed from it? Do they think something gets removed from it?

Does it, in fact, feel heavier at some of the times that they lift it than at others?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 10:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do they think it's heavier only when they're trying to lift it? No they think it's heavier in a certain circumstance but obviously they could only verify this by lifting it Do they think it's heavier only when they're not trying to lift it? See above. You need to find out what the circumstance is

Does something go inside it? No Do they think something goes inside it? No Does something get removed from it? Do they think something gets removed from it? No to both

Does it, in fact, feel heavier at some of the times that they lift it than at others? No if they lifted it they would realise their mistake
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When they think it's heavier: does it look heavier? Feel heavier? Sound heavier? Is there some other evidence that (incorrectly) suggests that it's heavier?
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When they think it's heavier: does it look heavier? Feel heavier? Sound heavier? No to all the above Is there some other evidence that (incorrectly) suggests that it's heavier? I wouldn't call it evidence but something does create the scrund that it's heavier in a certain circumstance
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Does it weigh more than: 1 kg? 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? Does every "it" weigh the same? Is the weight an important property of "it"? Is is relevant how much heavier they think it becomes? Is it hollow? Inflated?
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Does it weigh more than: 1 kg? 5? 10? 20? somewhere between 20 & 50 but i could be wrong50? 100? Does every "it" weigh the same? No Is the weight an important property of "it"? No Is is relevant how much heavier they think it becomes? No Is it hollow? Yope Inflated? No
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Is it hollow but filled with something? Is it round? Is it filled with liquid? Or is it more like a sponge? Do they think the mass of the object changes somehow? Or that gravity affects it differently somehow? Other forces than gravity relevant? Like buoyancy? Acceleration? Gyroscopic effects? Does it have moving parts? Is it a machine? Certain times: of the day? Month? Year? Lunar cycle relevant? Tides?
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Is it hollow but filled with something?Yope hard to define this Is it round? No Is it filled with liquid? No Or is it more like a sponge? Nothing like this Do they think the mass of the object changes somehow? No just the weight. I'd say the people with this scrund wouldn't know what mass was Or that gravity affects it differently somehow? No Other forces than gravity relevant? No Like buoyancy? Acceleration? Gyroscopic effects? Does it have moving parts? No Is it a machine? Yes Certain times: of the day? This Month? Year? Lunar cycle relevant? Tides? No to rest
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Does it turn on? Is it electrical? do they think it's heavier when on? Off? Do they think something inside has weight, when it does not? Is it a computer? TV?
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Does it turn on? Yes Is it electrical? Yes do they think it's heavier when on? This Off? Do they think something inside has weight, when it does not? No Is it a computer? TV? It's a TV well done Galfisk great set of q's. Now your job is to work out why they thought this
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Did they think there were people inside the TV? Would they think a computer monitor also got heavier at certain times? Do they have a very limited grasp on: technology? Physics? Electricity?
Are they children?
Relevant what is shown on the TV?
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Did they think there were people inside the TV? No Would they think a computer monitor also got heavier at certain times? Yes but this wouldn't have arisen because.... Do they have a very limited grasp on: technology? Physics? Electricity? Probable yes to all
Are they children? No
Relevant what is shown on the TV? No
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Is this set before the advent of personal computers? Do the people with this scrund pick up and/or move TVs?
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Is this set before the advent of personal computers? Yes this scrund goes way back to when TVs were new technology Do the people with this scrund pick up and/or move TVs? They might do probe this a little deeper
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Did they think something external to the TV would impart weight to it when it was turned on? Did they expect to lift it while it was on?
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Did they think something external to the TV would impart weight to it when it was turned on? Maybe . You need to discover what gave them this scrund they probably didn't think too much about how the weight might be added Did they expect to lift it while it was on? Yesish explore this as this is otrt
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Were they told not to move it when it was on, and they thought this was because it was too heavy?

Are rabbit ears relevant? Is it relevant what programming was on? A certain channel?
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Posted on Sunday, February 28, 2010 - 4:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they told not to move it when it was on, and they thought this was because it was too heavy? Yes it's that simple

Are rabbit ears relevant? Is it relevant what programming was on? A certain channel?

************Spoiler**************

According to QI when TVs first came on the market many people thought it weighed more when it was switched on because the operating manual warned them to switch it off before moving it.

Well done Gourami.
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Oh and the puzzle title for anyone interested is the catchphrase of both Doc Browne & Marty McFly in the "Back to the Future" movies
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Nice! I wonder why they thought that was...maybe because of all the excess electricity inside...

And now I'm thinking of the "What's a rerun?" scene from BTTF.

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