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Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

See an earlier puzzle for the rules to camo. rulebreakers. Basically, it's a regular rulebreaker, but you ask questions as if you're trying to solve a puzzle. The one below, for instance.
I hope this one doesn't drag on forever. If so, I'll give a hint. For now, I'll just say: ask a few questions at once.


A woman heard a tune she which she recognized. She took a gun and shot a stranger. Why?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 3:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the kill the stranger?
Did she intend to?
Did the stranger play the tune?
Did she hate it?
Did she hate him?
Did she make a promise to shoot the next person that played the tune?
Did she get startled?
Was it her gun?
Torquemada (Torquemada)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 4:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the tune on the radio?
Was it played live?
Was it in her head?
Did she like the tune?
Was the gun lying nearby?
Was it a rifle?
Was it a pistol?
Relevant?
Was the stranger HAM? HAF?
Did she think she knew him/her?
Did she think (s)he was someone else?
Gourami (Gourami)
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Post Number: 1039
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk (Galfisk)

Did the kill the stranger? Irr.
Did she intend to? Yes, or wound him.
Did the stranger play the tune? Yope.
Did she hate it? No.
Did she hate him? Not necessarily.
Did she make a promise to shoot the next person that played the tune? No.
Did she get startled? Yesish.
Was it her gun? Yes.

Torquemada (Torquemada)

Was the tune on the radio? No.
Was it played live? Yesish, depends on what you mean.
Was it in her head? No.
Did she like the tune? Yes.
Was the gun lying nearby? Yes.
Was it a rifle?
Was it a pistol? Probably, irr.
Relevant?
Was the stranger HAM? HAF? HAM.
Did she think she knew him/her? No.
Did she think (s)he was someone else? No.
Torquemada (Torquemada)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK, rephrasing:

Was the tune being played by someone who was present?
By more than one person?
Did she feel threatened by the stranger?

Did the kill the stranger?
Did she intend to?
Did the stranger play the tune?
Did she hate it?
Did she hate him?
Did she make a promise to shoot the next person that played the tune?
Did she get startled?
Was it her gun?
Gourami (Gourami)
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Post Number: 1041
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Posted on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 1:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Torquemada (Torquemada)

OK, rephrasing:

Was the tune being played by someone who was present? Whether music was playing is irr.
By more than one person?
Did she feel threatened by the stranger? He wasn't a stranger.

Did the kill the stranger? No, FA.
Did she intend to? No.
Did the stranger play the tune? What tune?
Did she hate it? No...
Did she hate him? Possibly.
Did she make a promise to shoot the next person that played the tune? What tune??
Did she get startled? Probably.
Was it her gun? No, his.
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 5:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she shoot the stranger?
Did she shoot the stranger with the gun?
Was the stranger HAM?
Was she HAF?
Were there any other people involved?
Did she hear the tune?
Did the stranger hear the tune?
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 6:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Noel (Noel)

Did she shoot the stranger? She didn't shoot anyone.
Did she shoot the stranger with the gun? No guns involved.
Was the stranger HAM? There is a HAM, but he isn't a stranger.
Was she HAF? Yes.
Were there any other people involved? Just those two.
Did she hear the tune? No relevant music involved.
Did the stranger hear the tune? Ditto.
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 12:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she shoot the stranger?

Did she do something with the HAM?
Did she know the HAM? Was she related to the HAM?
Is she the "main character" of the situation? Is the HAM the "main character" of the situation? Or are they equally involved.
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 4:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Noel (Noel)

Did she shoot the stranger? Who shot him is irr.

Did she do something with the HAM? Who is "she"?
Did she know the HAM? Was she related to the HAM? See above.
Is she the "main character" of the situation? No, there is no relevant female. Is the HAM the "main character" of the situation? Yes. Or are they equally involved.
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she shoot the stranger?
Did she shoot the stranger with the gun?
Was the stranger HAM?
Was she HAF?
Were there any other people involved?
Did she hear the tune?
Did the stranger hear the tune?
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 2:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she shoot the stranger?

Did she do something with the HAM?
Did she know the HAM? Was she related to the HAM?
Is she the "main character" of the situation? Is the HAM the "main character" of the situation? Or are they equally involved.
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 4:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Readbelow (Readbelow)

Did she shoot the stranger? No, no stranger involved.
Did she shoot the stranger with the gun? No gun involved.
Was the stranger HAM? No stranger involved.
Was she HAF? Yes.
Were there any other people involved? No, she's the only relevant person.
Did she hear the tune? No music involved.
Did the stranger hear the tune?

Noel (Noel)

Did she shoot the stranger? Again, no stranger involved!

Did she do something with the HAM? There's probably another person she interacted with, but largely irrelevant.
Did she know the HAM? Was she related to the HAM? Irr.
Is she the "main character" of the situation? Yes. Is the HAM the "main character" of the situation? No, no other relevant people. Or are they equally involved.
Readbelow (Readbelow)
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Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 8:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she do something with the HAM?
Did she know the HAM? Was she related to the HAM?
Is she the "main character" of the situation? Is the HAM the "main character" of the situation? Or are they equally involved.
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 4:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Readbelow (Readbelow)

Did she do something with the HAM? If by "she" you mean "them," no, they did nothing.
Did she know the HAM? No. Was she related to the HAM? No.
Is she the "main character" of the situation? no, there's no single woman relevant. Is the HAM the "main character" of the situation? Yes. Or are they equally involved.
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Sunday, March 28, 2010 - 11:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Location relevant?
If so, did it happen in [LTPF list of countries]? If a specific location in the US, in [LTPF list of states]?
Is she HAF? Are there any other characters? If so, HAM?
Did she do something with the HAM? Did she know the HAM? Was she related to the HAM?
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 - 4:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Noel (Noel)

Location relevant? No.
If so, did it happen in [LTPF list of countries]? It could occur in most countries. If a specific location in the US, in [LTPF list of states]? I believe it could happen in certain parts of most states. Perhaps not Alaska, Hawaii...
Is she HAF? No female involved. Are there any other characters? No, just the one. If so, HAM? He is, yes.
Did she do something with the HAM? Did she know the HAM? Was she related to the HAM? He's all alone.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 9:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he die?
Did she shoot?
Were they friends?
Was she nuts?
Did he bleed?
Did he die?
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 3:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk (Galfisk)

Did he die? Yes.
Did she shoot? No, no "she" involved.
Were they friends? Who?
Was she nuts? Who?
Did he bleed? No, good question.
Did he die? Yes.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 9:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he dead?
Did the kill the stranger?
Did she kill the stranger?
Did he die?
Did he bleed?
Is she arrested?
Prosecuted?
Tried?
Imprisoned?
Killed?
Gourami (Gourami)
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Galfisk (Galfisk)

Is he dead? By the end of the situation, yes.
Did the kill the stranger? They? Yes.
Did she kill the stranger? One or both of the "they" could be female, sure.
Did he die? Yes.
Did he bleed? Possibly.
Is she arrested? Hard to say. There are certainly extenuating circumstances.
Prosecuted?
Tried?
Imprisoned? Same answer as above.
Killed? They do not die during the puzzle, and it is unlikely that they would receive the death penalty for their actions.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 10:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has he fainted?
Is she painted?
Was the gun tainted?
Was his head exploded?
Was the weapon loaded?
Is she human?
Is she a monster?
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 9:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk (Galfisk)

Has he fainted? No.
Is she painted? Who? The corpse? No.
Was the gun tainted? No gun involved.
Was his head exploded? No.
Was the weapon loaded? No firing weapon involved.
Is she human? All characters human.
Is she a monster? No.

To help with what I'm worried might be an impossible rulebreaker, let me give you this; a sequence of sorts is being employed. Whenever you want me to restart the sequence, just say so.
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

how about you restart it now?
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 1:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Done.
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 7:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has he fainted?
Is she painted?
Was the gun tainted?
Was his head exploded?
Was the weapon loaded?
Is she human?
Is she a monster?
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 3:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Noel (Noel)

Has he fainted? Nope, he's dead.
Is she painted? No.
Was the gun tainted? No, normal gun.
Was his head exploded? Possibly.
Was the weapon loaded? Yes.
Is she human? Yes.
Is she a monster? No, I'd say her actions were justified.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 8:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has he fainted?
Is she painted?
Was the gun tainted?
Was his head exploded?
Was the weapon loaded?
Is she human?
Is she a monster?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 8:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it help to ask the same questions again and again?
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Galfisk (Galfisk)

Has he fainted? No.
Is she painted? No.
Was the gun tainted? No.
Was his head exploded? No.
Was the weapon loaded? Yes.
Is she human? Yes.
Is she a monster? Nope, though she did do something undesirable.

Does it help to ask the same questions again and again? Yes, I'd think so. Possibly not these.
Mackadal (Mackadal)
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Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2010 - 9:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I knwo this is a rulebreaker, and as such I am likely contributing nothing, but- is "A Clockwork Orange" related?
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Mackadal (Mackadal)

I know this is a rulebreaker, and as such I am likely contributing nothing, but- is "A Clockwork Orange" related? No, but welcome to the forum!

Note: this answer does not follow the rule.
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Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2010 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he shoot her?
Can it be said that she was the villan?
If she had a water gun instead of a firearm, would she have shot him with that one instead?
What if the water gun contained hydrofluoric acid (and somehow wasn't destroyed by it)?
Is she famous?
Rich?
Annoying?
Bitchy?
Pretty?
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Posted on Friday, April 23, 2010 - 2:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk (Galfisk)

Did he shoot her? No, but there was a he involved.
Can it be said that she was the villan? No.
If she had a water gun instead of a firearm, would she have shot him with that one instead? No, she didn't shoot him.
What if the water gun contained hydrofluoric acid (and somehow wasn't destroyed by it)? No gun involved.
Is she famous? Probably a bit.
Rich? Irr.
Annoying? Irr.
Bitchy? Irr.
Pretty? Probably.
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Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since this is going nowhere, I'm going to $p0i1 it in favor of some new puzzles, if there are no objections.
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Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 6:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

************SPOILER**************
The puzzle statement is the first puzzle in Paul Sloane's (Admin's) book Intriguing Lateral Thinking Puzzles. I answered the first set of questions according to the solution to that puzzle, the second set according to the second puzzle in the book, and so on.

I decided this was a bit unfair, since it would be difficult to guess unless you owned the book or were at least very familiar with Mr. Sloane's book formats. Anyway, new and better puzzle soon!

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