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Pain caused his death and saved his life
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his1 = his2? Caused his death: literally? Saved his life: literally? Was it the same pain that caused death and saved life? Did it save his life at first, and then cause his death afterwards? Or the other way around? Or both at the same time? Was he resuscitated?
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his1 = his2?no Caused his death: literally?yope... Saved his life: literally?yes, temporarily Was it the same pain that caused death and saved life?no Did it save his life at first, and then cause his death afterwards?\bOr the other way around? Or both at the same time?closest to this Was he resuscitated?no
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So his1 and his2 were two different people? Can we call his1 Pedro? Can we call his2 Charlie? Pedro=HAM? Charlie=HAM?
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So his1 and his2 were two different people?yes, although 1 could be a group of people Can we call his1 Pedro?for the sake of the puzzle, we will call it one person and call him pedro Can we call his2 Charlie? \b(yes}Pedro=HAM? yes/no, but not relevant/yope, also not relevantCharlie=HAM? yes
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CORRECTION!!!! so sorry I messed this up. his1 does equal his2. there is a pain1 and pain2 that are not equal. So sorry I killed that. repharasing. We'll call him charlie still.

Pain caused Charlie's death and saved charlie's life.

Sorry once again
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Is it a one-time pain, or chronic? Can he feel pain at all? Is Pain1 from a fatal condition? Pain2? Are Pain1 and Pain2 related? Is the pain a sign of something? Was he in an accident?
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Is it a one-time pain, or chronic? both pains are one time painsCan he feel pain at all?yes Is Pain1 from a fatal condition? yopePain2?no \bAre Pain1 and Pain2 related? noIs the pain a sign of something?no Was he in an accident?no

HINT: pain1 was not charlie's pain
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Did the first pain alert him to something, and the second killed him? Is someone else relevant? More than one person? If so, LTPF list of integers?
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Did the first pain alert him to something, and the second killed him? noIs someone else relevant? yesishMore than one person? yes, but number of is not relevantIf so, LTPF list of integers?
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Pain = irritating stimulation of nerves?

Did someone/something else suffer pain, or did both pains apply to Charlie?

Is a specific group of people relevant? An organization? Any of the following relevant:

Location? Era? Weather? Plants? Animals?
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Pain = irritating stimulation of nerves?yes

Did someone/something else suffer pain,this or did both pains apply to Charlie?

Is a specific group of people relevant? An organization? Any of the following relevant:

Location? Era? Weather? Plants? Animals?no to all
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So first Pedro felt pain, and Charlie's life was saved? Then later Charlie felt pain, and died? Did Pedro die the first time? Was the pain Charlie felt from a fatal wound? Or did it cause him to do something that lead to his death? Or cause him to not do something that could've saved his life?
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So first Pedro felt pain,yes and Charlie's life was saved? yes, but not then, little FAThen later Charlie felt pain, and died?yes Did Pedro die the first time?yes Was the pain Charlie felt from a fatal wound?yope Or did it cause him to do something that lead to his death?no Or cause him to not do something that could've saved his life?no
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Did Pedro die? Was Pedro's pain from the same thing as Charlie's pain?
So Pedro's pain saved Charlies life, some time after the pain had happened? Relevant how long after? Did Pedro suffer from a medical condition? Injury? How about Charlie?
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Did Pedro die?yes Was Pedro's pain from the same thing as Charlie's pain? no
So Pedro's pain saved Charlies life,no some time after the pain had happened?no Relevant how long after? Did Pedro suffer from a medical condition?no Injury?no How about Charlie?yes to injury
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So - first Pedro suffered pain and died. Is the time span between the suffering and the death relevant? If so, was it seconds? minutes? hours? weeks? months? years?

Then Charlie suffered pain and was saved?
Then Charlie died? If so, was the time span between Charlie's being saved and his death seconds? minutes? hours? weeks? months? years?

The time span between Pedro's death and Charlie's pain/death: seconds? minutes? hours? weeks? months? years?

Are Pedro or Charlie real people? Famous?
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So - first Pedro suffered pain and died. Is the time span between the suffering and the death relevant? noIf so, was it seconds? minutes? hours?prolly somewhere around this though weeks? months? years?
Then Charlie suffered pain and was saved? yes...although slight FA here still
Then Charlie died?es If so, was the time span between Charlie's being saved and his death seconds? minutes? {this}hours?or possibly this weeks? months? years?

The time span between Pedro's death and Charlie's pain/death: seconds? minutes? hours? weeks? months? years? this

Are Pedro or Charlie real people?yes Famous?depends on your definition
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I'm confused... Did Pedro's pain save Charlie's life? Or did Charlie's pain save Charlie's life? Or did some other pain save his life?
Did Charlie suffer pain, and because of the way Pedro had died, he knew what he needed to do to save his life?
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I'm confused... Did Pedro's pain save Charlie's life? Or did Charlie's pain save Charlie's life?this Or did some other pain save his life?
Did Charlie suffer pain, and because of the way Pedro had died, he knew what he needed to do to save his life?no
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Did Pedro's pain cause Charlie's death? Or did Charlie's pain cause Charlie's death? Are there more than two pains (one of Pedro and one of Charlie) invovled? Did Pedro and Charlie suffer pain at the same time? From the same thing?
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Did Pedro's pain cause Charlie's death?yes Or did Charlie's pain cause Charlie's death?no, not in the way I mean in he puzzle. althought it could be argued yes Are there more than two pains (one of Pedro and one of Charlie) invovled?if you count the pain of charlie dying, then yes Did Pedro and Charlie suffer pain at the same time? noFrom the same thing?also no
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Ah, so is this correct: first Charlie suffered pain, and because of that his life was saved. then Pedro suffered pain and died, and because of that pain Charlie died, some time later, and from something different from Pedro.
Is Pedro operating machinery? Or a weapon? Can it be said that he causes Charlie's death?
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Ah, so is this correct: first Charlie suffered pain, and because of that his life was saved. then Pedro suffered pain and died, and because of that pain Charlie died, some time later, and from something different from Pedro. yes, although a little bit of a time FA is involved
Is Pedro operating machinery? noOr a weapon?no Can it be said that he causes Charlie's death?only in a very indirect way
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Are their occupations relevant?
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Are their occupations relevant?for pedro, no. For charlie....depends what you call an occupation
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Can what Charlie does be more accurately described as a: hobby? Interest? Obsession? Habit?
Can Charlie's death be called an accident? Did Pedro ever want Charlie dead? Did they know each other? Did Charlie injure himself? Or did someone else injure him? Is it relevant exactly what Pedro died from? Does Charlie do something with Pedro's dead body?
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Can what Charlie does be more accurately described as a: hobby? Interest? Obsession?this Habit?
Can Charlie's death be called an accident?no Did Pedro ever want Charlie dead?I'm sure yes Did they know each other?not sure, irrel anyways Did Charlie injure himself?YES!Or did someone else injure him? although this is also trueIs it relevant exactly what Pedro died from?a certain detail is relevant, although the exact way is not Does Charlie do something with Pedro's dead body?yes...although that's rather irrel honestly
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Are any experiments done on Charlie or Pedro?
Did Pedro wanting Charlie dead relate to his pain?
Did Charlie hope to benefit from injuring himself?
Is Charlie's self injury his "Pain"?
Are any of the pain an accident?
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Are any experiments done on Charlie or Pedro? no
Did Pedro wanting Charlie dead relate to his pain? yes
Did Charlie hope to benefit from injuring himself? no
Is Charlie's self injury his "Pain"? yes
Are any of the pain an accident?no
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Did Charlie intend to injure himself? To injure someone else? To kill himself? Did Charlie also want Pedro dead? Did Pedro hurt Charlie?
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Did Charlie intend to injure himself?yes To injure someone else?this as well, at a different time To kill himself? noDid Charlie also want Pedro dead? yesDid Pedro hurt Charlie?no
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Are they at war? Did Charlie kill himself? Or try to? Did Charlie injure himself in order to get out of military service? Or some other dangerous situation?
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Are they at war? noDid Charlie kill himself?no Or try to?no Did Charlie injure himself in order to get out of military service?no Or some other dangerous situation?no
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Relevant how Charlie injured himself? Where on the body the injury was? What kind of injury it was? Why he did it? When he did it? Was Pedro present when Charlie injured himself? Relevant? Are they rivals? Are they in a duel?
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Relevant how Charlie injured himself?yes Where on the body the injury was?no What kind of injury it was?yes Why he did it?yope When he did it?noish Was Pedro present when Charlie injured himself? noRelevant? noAre they rivals?no Are they in a duel?no
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I though you said that his1 and his2 are in fact one person. So is whole Pedro/Charlie think FA or there are really two people being saved and killed by the pain?

Also, was the pain caused by electricity?
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I though you said that his1 and his2 are in fact one person.yes So is whole Pedro/Charlie think FA noor there are really two people being saved and killed by the pain? yes
(Pedro's pain caused charlies death, charlies pain saved charlies life temporarily) there's a summary that's easier to understand

Also, was the pain caused by electricity?no...not the ones mentioned but keep on that track, that is involved
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Are hobbies relevant? Are they traveling? Are locations relevant?
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Was any medical electrical equipment involved? Did failure of such an equipment caused Pedro's or Charlie's pain or Charlie's death?
Was any other electrical equipment involved?

Am I right when I'm assuming that by Charlie's death we understand that his heart stopped beating? And by his saving that it started beating again?
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Are hobbies relevant? Are they traveling? Are locations relevant?no to all




Was any medical electrical equipment involved? noishDid failure of such an equipment caused Pedro's or Charlie's pain or Charlie's death? no, although you are also on the right track here
Was any other electrical equipment involved? only one electrical equipment piece

Am I right when I'm assuming that by Charlie's death we understand that his heart stopped beating?yes And by his saving that it started beating again?no, you have the timeline a little backwards. Charlie did end up dying, his life was only saved temporarily
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Gosh, now I'm pretty confused...

Was someones pain caused by some kind of machine that involve electronic parts? Was any failure (electronic or other) of such a machine involved?
Was any pain caused by accident? (I really don't see that right track :D)
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Gosh, now I'm pretty confused... I know..I'm really sorry about that, I should have worded it a little better when I started the puzzle, my fault there

Was someones pain caused by some kind of machine that involve electronic parts? yesWas any failure (electronic or other) of such a machine involved? it failed to accomplish its purpose the first time, yes
Was any pain caused by accident?no (I really don't see that right track :D)
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HINT: this has gotten really confusing mostly because of the way I chose to word it at the beginning. There's one piece of info that should really help hopefully, you guys have gotten close but haven't quite hit it. I'll just tell you to help it along.


Charlie killed Pedro.
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Did killing Pedro temporarily save Charlie's life? Were they shooting at eachother? Trying to kill eachother? Or is only Charlie trying to kill Pedro, but not the other way around? Or did he kill Pedro accidentally? Did Charlie injure himself in order to deceive Pedro?
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Did killing Pedro temporarily save Charlie's life?no Were they shooting at eachother? Trying to kill eachothernoOr is only Charlie trying to kill Pedro, but not the other way around?this Or did he kill Pedro accidentally? Did Charlie injure himself in order to deceive Pedro?no
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So first Charlie's pain saves Charlie's life? Then Charlie kills Pedro, and this leads to Charlie dying as well?
Is it relevant how he killed Pedro? Or why? Did Pedro cause Charlie's pain? Did Charlie cause his own pain?
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So first Charlie's pain saves Charlie's life?yes Then Charlie kills Pedro, and this leads to Charlie dying as well? yes
Is it relevant how he killed Pedro?no Or why?noish Did Pedro cause Charlie's pain?no Did Charlie cause his own pain?yes
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Was it Charlie's pain itself that saved his life? Or did he do something painful to himself to save his life? Like injecting a drug? Sewing together a wound? Or cauterizing it? Jumping from/onto/into something? Waking himself up/keeping awake? If he had not done this, would he have died from: Fall? Other impact? Bleeding? Cold? Heat? Suffocation? Lacerations? Poisoning? Disease? Electrocution? Would his death be his own fault? Nobody's? Someone else's?
Was the electrical equipment used to: injure Charlie? Kill Pedro?
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Was it Charlie's pain itself that saved his life?noish Or did he do something painful to himself to save his life?yes...but unknowingly, and in the past Like injecting a drug? Sewing together a wound? Or cauterizing it?\b Jumping from/onto/into something? Waking himself up/keeping awake?FA on these If he had not done this, would he have died from: Fall? Other impact? Bleeding? Cold? Heat? Suffocation? Lacerations? Poisoning? Disease? Electrocution?this!!!!!!! Would his death be his own fault?this Nobody's? Someone else's?
Was the electrical equipment used to: injure Charlie?yes Kill Pedro?no
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So Charlie did something painful to himself in the past, which ended up saving his life in the present? Did it alter his vulnerability to electricity somehow? Did it change his skin resistance? Was it a medical procedure? Was it done for cosmetic reasons? Was it done to be able to withstand electricity?
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So Charlie did something painful to himself in the past, which ended up saving his life in the present?yes, temporarily Did it alter his vulnerability to electricity somehow?yes Did it change his skin resistance?no Was it a medical procedure?no Was it done for cosmetic reasons?no Was it done to be able to withstand electricity?no
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Is what he did something that is well known to make a person more tolerant to electricity? Did he build up his tolerance by shocking himself? Was Charlie put in the electric chair? Or otherwise lethally punished for Pedro's death?

Does the story go like this?
Charlie wants to kill Pedro. He knows he will get the chair for murder, so he trains himself to withstand powerful electric shocks. He hopes that this way he will survice the chair and be pardoned. However, when he is sentenced to death he either doesn't survive the chair anyway, or he is executed in some other fashion.
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Is what he did something that is well known to make a person more tolerant to electricity?no Did he build up his tolerance by shocking himself? noWas Charlie put in the electric chair?yes Or otherwise lethally punished for Pedro's death? only by electric chair

Does the story go like this?
Charlie wants to kill Pedro.yes so far He knows he will get the chair for murder, so he trains himself to withstand powerful electric shocks.nope He hopes that this way he will survice the chair and be pardoned. However, when he is sentenced to death he either doesn't survive the chair anyway, or he is executed in some other fashion.tthis is also clos but a little off
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So did Charlie survive the chair? Or did it kill him?
Did he first become tolerant to electricity, then get the chair for some other crime, survive, get pardoned, kill Pedro, and then either get the chair again, or executed in some other way?
Or did he kill Pedro, then get the chair, then survive?
Was surviving the chair the event that made him tolerant to electricity? Or did he survive the chair because something in the past had made him tolerant?
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So did Charlie survive the chair?once Or did it kill him? yes
Did he first become tolerant to electricity, then get the chair for some other crime, survive, get pardoned, kill Pedro, and then either get the chair again, or executed in some other way? no
Or did he kill Pedro, then get the chair, then survive? not sure about the wording on this
Was surviving the chair the event that made him tolerant to electricity? noOr did he survive the chair because something in the past had made him tolerant?yes
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Did Charlie get the chair on two separate occasions? Or was he to be executed once, and survived the first attempt but not the second one? He got the chair for killing Pedro, correct?
Is his heart especially relevant, when it comes to electricity tolerance? Or his skin? Did he conduct less electricity than a normal human? Or did less of it pass through his heart? Or was his heart more tolerant to electricity?
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Did Charlie get the chair on two separate occasions? Or was he to be executed once, and survived the first attempt but not the second one?this He got the chair for killing Pedro, correct? yes
Is his heart especially relevant, when it comes to electricity tolerance?no Or his skin?closer to this Did he conduct less electricity than a normal human?no Or did less of it pass through his heart? Or was his heart more tolerant to electricity?no to both
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Was he sweating? Did that saved his life?
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Was he sweating? Did that saved his life?no
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Scarring relevant? Did he burn himself earlier? If so: With fire? Chemicals? Hot liquid? Or is injury from cold relevant? Did he hurt himself on purpose? Pain tolerance relevant? Relevant which part of the body he hurt? Did any foreign matter get embedded in his body? In his skin?
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Scarring relevant?no Did he burn himself earlier?no If so: With fire? Chemicals? Hot liquid? Or is injury from cold relevant? Did he hurt himself on purpose?yes Pain tolerance relevant?no Relevant which part of the body he hurt?no Did any foreign matter get embedded in his body?yes In his skin? yes
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Embedded: metal? Dye? Plastic? Fibers? Is he tattooed?
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Embedded: metal? thisDye? Plastic? Fibers? Is he tattooed?
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Is it relevant which metal it is? Which shape it is in? Is it: particles? Wires? Foil? Is this based on a true story? Story from fiction? FYOI? Is the reason why he embedded the metal in his skin relevant?
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Is it relevant which metal it is?noish Which shape it is in?helps to get details, but not necessary Is it: particles? Wires? Foil? nopeIs this based on a true story? somewhere in between thisStory from fiction? and thisFYOI? Is the reason why he embedded the metal in his skin relevant?
not relevant to the answer, but helps explain the story
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Did the metal in his skin: conduct electricity away from the heart? Damage the circuitry of the chair? Was it visible from the outside? Is it some sort of jewelry? Is it in the form of piercings? Is he the world's most pierced man, or something like that? And the puzzle is about what would happen if he killed someone and got sent to the chair?
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Did the metal in his skin: conduct electricity away from the heart? Damage the circuitry of the chair? closest to thisWas it visible from the outside?irrel Is it some sort of jewelry? noIs it in the form of piercings? noIs he the world's most pierced man, or something like that? noAnd the puzzle is about what would happen if he killed someone and got sent to the chair?it is about something that did happen, or at least was rumored to have happened
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Do the fuse(s) blow as a result of the metal? Is the metal: gold? Silver? Iron? Zinc? Copper? Mercury? Tin? Zinc? Lead? Is it toxic? Did he incorporate the metal into his skin for health reasons? The main thing left to find out is what he did to his skin and why, correct?
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Iron man relevant?
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Do the fuse(s) blow as a result of the metal?basically Is the metal: gold? Silver? Iron? Zinc? Copper? Mercury? Tin? Zinc? Lead? Is it toxic?don't know enough about the metal to answer these lol Did he incorporate the metal into his skin for health reasons? noThe main thing left to find out is what he did to his skin and why, correct?yes, basically. I may post the solution soon since those things aren't extremely relevant.

Iron man relevant?no
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It's okay with me if you $poil, it has been fun to play.
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SOLUTION:

Charlie was a serial killer. Pedro was one of his victims, it was really irrel how he died except that charlie killed him. Because of this, charlie was sentenced to death by electric chair. Now charlie had also been a self-injurer all of his life. He had literally embedded nails into himself in so many places that he was full of metal. The first time they tried to use the chair, it short circuited because of the amount of metal in his body. The second time it worked.

Thus, pedro's pain (death) caused charlie's death. Charlie's previous pain( embedding nails) temporarily saved his life.


This is based on a legend about Albert Fish, who was also the real-life basis for Hannibal Lektor from the Silence of the Lambs movies

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