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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 1:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Arrogance twice prevented him from reaching his goal.

HINT: This puzzle contains a theme from each of my two non-neologistic puzzles.

Go!
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 1:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

GAAAAAAAAAHH!! Forgot to put my name in the title.

Moderator, will you please fix this?
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No problem.

Him=Ham?
Was his goal the same both times? Was it his own arrogance that prevented him? Did arrogance cause him to say something? Do something? Make an assumption?

And regarding the hint: A game involved? Video game? Is basketball involved? Another sport?
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No problem. Thanks. I guess the side effects of jurpling are starting to hit me as well.

Him=Ham? Yes, No, Yes
Was his goal the same both times? Yes Was it his own arrogance that prevented him? Yes Did arrogance cause him to say something? No Do something? Yes Make an assumption? Yes

And regarding the hint: A game involved? Yes Video game? Yes Is basketball involved? No Another sport? Yes
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Was the goal within the video game?
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Was the goal within the video game? Yes
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Is it a sports game?

What sport is involved...hockey? football? baseball? soccer? golf?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 6:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a sports game? Yes

What sport is involved...hockey? football? (-- This one; again, sorry for the ugly arrow baseball? soccer? golf?
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Did the same thing happen both times? Or did he learn from the first attempt, but still somehow let his arrogance get the best of him the second time around? Did he compete against another person? Against the computer? Against himself?
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Did the same thing happen both times? Yes, in that the essential details were the same, but not all the minor details. Or did he learn from the first attempt, but still somehow let his arrogance get the best of him the second time around? No Did he compete against another person? Yes Against the computer? No Against himself? No

HINT: He was overconfident. And this is a true story, though that's not really part of the hint.
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Posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 3:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wait. Him=His?

Also, I suggest using a less than symbol for the arrowhead (<--)
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 4:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wait. Him=His? Yes

Also, I suggest using a less than symbol for the arrowhead (<--)

I tried that, but it wouldn't work for me. Kept screwing up the text.

Now I can get off for real. Be back Friday!
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Did he try to show off? And his opponent took the opportunity to steal the victory from him? Did he compete against the same person both times? Is the other person a relative? His little brother maybe?
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Did he try to show off? Yesish to Yes his opponent took the opportunity to steal the victory from him? No, but OTRT Did he compete against the same person both times? No Is the other person a relative? His little brother maybe? No

It's not necessary for the solve, but...

-"He" is a friend of mine from school.
-The first opponent was another school friend.
-The second opponent was me.

The point is that the same basic situation occurred both times.
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Ok, so I have the details right...
Friend is playing a football video game?
Against you and the other friend, both individually?
Specific game relevant?
And his overconfidence resulted in a loss both times?
Because it made him do something sort of like showing off?
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Ok, so I have the details right...
Friend is playing a football video game? Yes
Against you and the other friend, both individually? Yes
Specific game relevant? No
And his overconfidence resulted in a loss both times? No
Because it made him do something sort of like showing off? Yes

You're definitely OTRT. Still need to figure out what he was trying to do and how he failed to do it.
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Is the game Madden? (Referring to the puzzle title)
Does one have to know about: rules/practices of football? Of football Video games? A specific video game system? Is the type of video game controller used relevant? could the same thing have happened in a multiplayer FPS (first perosn shooter)? Did he try to pull a cool move in the game? Or in person, while playing the game? Such as looking away from the screen?
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Is the game Madden? (Referring to the puzzle title) The first time it was, the second time it wasn't. However, that's irrelevant; the point is that it's a football video game. That is where I came up with the title though - nice deduction!
Does one have to know about: rules/practices of football? Yes, but not too much Of football Video games? No A specific video game system? No Is the type of video game controller used relevant? No could the same thing have happened in a multiplayer FPS (first perosn shooter)? No Did he try to pull a cool move in the game? Noish Or in person, while playing the game? No Such as looking away from the screen? No
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Was he trying to do something risky that failed? Like throw a hail mary pass, resulting in an interception?
Balin (Balin)
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Was he trying to do something risky that failed? Like throw a hail mary pass, resulting in an interception? No. Good guess though as to his goal. And you actually got how it failed.
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Clarification on my last post: The "failure" was that his attempts, both times, ended with interceptions.
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Was it the type of play he was running?
Did he try to lateral?
Do a fake field goal?
Other fake play?
Go for a two-point conversion?
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Was it the type of play he was running?
Did he try to lateral?
Do a fake field goal?
Other fake play?
Go for a two-point conversion? None of these. HINT: I will say that he was overconfident to the point of being cocky.
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Was his relevant cockiness present within a single play?
Or more an overarching decision of the game?
Like giving himself a handicap?
Or purposely choosing the worst team in the game?
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Was his relevant cockiness present within a single play? Yes
Or more an overarching decision of the game? No
Like giving himself a handicap? No
Or purposely choosing the worst team in the game? No
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A play in which he passed?
Did his cockiness involve the length of the pass?
Coverage of the receiver?
Is what he was doing with the quarterback relevant (other than the pass)?
Like running him way back of the line before passing?
Or just waiting a long time and evading the defense?
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A play in which he passed? No. That's the play after he was cocky.
Did his cockiness involve the length of the pass?
Coverage of the receiver?
Is what he was doing with the quarterback relevant (other than the pass)?
Like running him way back of the line before passing?
Or just waiting a long time and evading the defense? None of these
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Was he not passing at all? Just running with one player straight for your goal, while dodging your players? Until you managed to intercept him?
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Was he not passing at all? During the "cocky" play, he did not pass. Just running with one player straight for your goal, while dodging your players? Until you managed to intercept him? Hmmm. I'm starting to confuse myself with my answers, so I'll post a

RECAP: During a football video game, a friend of mine became cocky on one play and did something. The next play, he threw a pass and was intercepted, thus preventing him from doing what he could easily have done the play before.

That should clear things up now.
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During the cocky play...
He stalled getting a first down? Or touchdown?
He purposely lost yardage?
And on the fourth down, he passed for an interception?
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During the cocky play...
He stalled getting a first down? No, but... Or touchdown? Yes!
He purposely lost yardage? No
And on the fourth down, he passed for an interception? No, with an FA
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Not fourth down?
Is it relevant what he did during the stalling play?
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Not fourth down? Correct, but that's not the FA.
Is it relevant what he did during the stalling play? Yesish
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Did what he did on the first play make it harder to get a touchdown on the second?
Did he pass at all on the second play?
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Did what he did on the first play make it harder to get a touchdown on the second? Noish
Did he pass at all on the second play? Yes

FA still lurking.
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Ok, breaking things down...
He is playing with a friend (or you)?
And there are two relevant plays?
The firt play he does something cocky?
The second play he throws for an interception?
Does he have the ball on the first play?
Or does he intercept (or recover a fumble), break away, and wait at the end zone instead of taking the touchdown?
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Ok, breaking things down...
He is playing with a friend (or you)? Yes
And there are two relevant plays? Yes
The firt play he does something cocky? Yes
The second play he throws for an interception? Yes
Does he have the ball on the first play? Yes
Or does he intercept (or recover a fumble), break away, and wait at the end zone instead of taking the touchdown? This is EXACTLY what happened! (The second time, that is.)

The first time was a hair different, but I'll describe it in the

**********SPOILER**********

Since I have a tendency to tell stories in way too much detail, I'll continue to do so here.

In late seventh grade, my friend Jake was playing Madden against another school friend, Joe. Jake caught a kickoff and broke a great return, but ran out of bounds at the 7 instead of scoring, as he was winning and was confident he would score. Needless to say, he didn't, as he was intercepted in the end zone on the next play.

Flash forward a few months to early eighth grade. At a different friend's house - I think this was at Stephen's house (not that it really matters) - I was playing Jake in a college football video game. I fumbled, and Jake picked it up with only green in front of him. He stopped at the goal line (and I tackled him), confident he would score. On the next play, deja vu occurred, as I intercepted it 2 yards deep in the end zone and ran it 68 yards.

Nice work to It_so_happened again for chipping away at the puzzle and finally taking it down.
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It all comes together now! Good puzzle! He got what was coming to him, I guess.
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Thanks. You definitely have a penchant for solving my puzzles - is that 3 in a row or something?
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Is it? Wow. I guess I should back off and give others a chance. =P
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Nah, I don't mind. It's actually fun to watch your lateral leaps to solve the puzzle. Besides, I've got 3 more puzzles that need solving, and are up for grabs.

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