| Author | Message | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 47 Registered: 5-2010 |
"That wasn't the end of it, it only broke off!" she exclaimed, horrified. But it wasn't what she had thought it was, which was a great relief, but now she had a real cause to worry. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 197 Registered: 4-2010 |
True story? FYOI? Will she die? Be harmed? Someone else die? Be harmed? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 49 Registered: 5-2010 |
True story? this FYOI? Will she die? Be harmed? Someone else die? Be harmed? unlikely | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 767 Registered: 6-2008 |
Let me write it as follows: "That wasn't the end of it-1, it-2 only broke off!" she exclaimed, horrified. But it-3 wasn't what she had thought it was, which was a great relief, but now she had a real cause to worry. Does it-2 = it-1? a part of it-1? Does it-3 = it-1? it-2? or does it-3 refer to the process of breaking it-2 off? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 50 Registered: 5-2010 |
Let me write it as follows: "That wasn't the end of it-1, it-2 only broke off!" she exclaimed, horrified. But it-3 wasn't what she had thought it was, which was a great relief, but now she had a real cause to worry. Does it-2 = it-1? yes a part of it-1? yes - a part of it broke off Does it-3 = it-1? it-2? both of these or does it-3 refer to the process of breaking it-2 off? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 198 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is "it" an object? Solid? Liquid? Metal? Wood? Glass? Plastic? Plaster? Other? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 51 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is "it" an object? maybe not an 'object' as such. You might want to define Solid? yes Liquid? no Metal? Wood? Glass? Plastic? Plaster? Other? I'm actually a little unsure about this, but I will try to find out the exact material. It didn't seem like any of the materials above, however | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 55 Registered: 5-2010 |
Balin, after some research, my guess is that the material is plastic, or close to | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1888 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it a tooth filling? Other dental work? Did she think she had broken a tooth? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 59 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is it a tooth filling? Other dental work? Did she think she had broken a tooth? not at all, but that would REALLY have been scary to me, I have nightmares about my teeth falling out. So yes, the person in this story is me =) | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1908 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it part of a: machine? Device? Gadget? Medical device? Clothing? Vehicle? Is the part that broke off smaller than a: pin head? Fingernail? Fingertip? Golf ball? Tennis ball? Soccer ball? Microwave? Washing machine? Car? House? Is the part it broke off from smaller than [above list]? Is it a homogenous material? Or a mix of materials? Is it expensive? Is it a household object? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 62 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is it part of a: machine? Device? Gadget? Medical device? Clothing? Vehicle? this! Is the part that broke off smaller than a: pin head? Fingernail? Fingertip? Golf ball? Tennis ball? Soccer ball? this size is closest, but rather misleading Microwave? Washing machine? Car? House? Is the part it broke off from smaller than [above list]? somewhere between a soccer ball and a microwave, I think, but also a little misleading Is it a homogenous material? this Or a mix of materials? Is it expensive? not the material itself, I'd believe Is it a household object? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1917 Registered: 9-2009 |
Vehicle: Tricycle? Bicycle? Motorbike? Car? Van? Other road vehicle? Rail vehicle? Aircraft? Other vehicle? Was the part that broke off on the interior? Exterior? Was it (part of) a car bumper? Was the vehicle stuck? Is an attempt being made at towing it? Or towing something else? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 64 Registered: 5-2010 |
Vehicle: Tricycle? Bicycle? Motorbike? Car? this Van? Other road vehicle? Rail vehicle? Aircraft? Other vehicle? Was the part that broke off on the interior? Exterior? this Was it (part of) a car bumper? no Was the vehicle stuck? Is an attempt being made at towing it? no Or towing something else? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1920 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it (part of): wheels/hubcap? Grill? Door? Hood? Roof? Window? Is there something wrong with the vehicle? Is an attempt being made to fix it? But it's being made worse instead? Does the car have a flat tire? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 67 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is it (part of): wheels/hubcap? Grill? Door? Hood? Roof? Window? neither Is there something wrong with the vehicle? yes Is an attempt being made to fix it? yes But it's being made worse instead? yes XD Does the car have a flat tire? no | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 133 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is it part of: Interior? Exterior? Under the hood? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1922 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it part of the rear door? Mirror? Light? Undercarriage? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 68 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is it part of: Interior? this-ish Exterior? Under the hood? no Is it part of the rear door? Mirror? Light? Undercarriage? this | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1926 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the part belong to the: exhaust system? Brake system? Fuel system? Steering? Power train? Cooling system? Was it a hose or tube? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 70 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did the part belong to the: exhaust system? this Brake system? Fuel system? Steering? Power train? Cooling system? Was it a hose or tube? not the 'it' that we are talking about, but a tube is involved | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1938 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the part included in this image? http://www.northstaffstyreandbattery.co.uk/images/exhaust-system.jpg Is it the catalytic converter? Muffler? Resonator? Or part of any of the above? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 71 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is the part included in this image? http://www.northstaffstyreandbattery.co.uk/images/exhaust-system.jpg yes Is it the catalytic converter? Muffler? Resonator? Or part of any of the above? if we're still talking about the 'it', I do believe it is a part of the muffler | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1939 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the part bent? And she tried to bend it back? Which only led to it breaking off? Did she think it was a more important part? Is rust involved? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 72 Registered: 5-2010 |
Was the part bent? And she tried to bend it back? Which only led to it breaking off? no Did she think it was a more important part? no, but it is probably obvious that she, which is to say I, is rather ignorant when it comes to cars =) Is rust involved? also no | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 73 Registered: 5-2010 |
This exclamation was origianlly in swedish, and is tricky to translate. Another translation might have been "It did not end there". That might cure the FA that is beginning to form. For those who understand swedish, the original shout of horror was this: "Den tog inte slut, den gick bara av!" | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1948 Registered: 9-2009 |
So something of the muffler broke off: when driving? When she did something to it? Was she trying to fix a problem? Put something back together? Is she underneath the car? Relevant? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 80 Registered: 5-2010 |
So something of the muffler broke off yes: when driving? When she did something to it? this Was she trying to fix a problem? yes =/ Put something back together? no Is she underneath the car? no Relevant? yes, she couldn't have done what she did if she'd been underneath the car | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1951 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is she working from inside the car? Beside the car? Is the part that broke off some sort of fastener? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 84 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is she working from inside the car? Beside the car? neither Is the part that broke off some sort of fastener? I don't know what a fastener is, but I'm pretty sure that's a no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1955 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is she behind the car? Is she trying to put something back together? Fix a part that is damaged? Open the muffler to fix something inside? Is she using a tool? If so, is the tool suited for the job? Relevant what tool it is? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 86 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is she behind the car? yes Is she trying to put something back together? no Fix a part that is damaged? No. I thought my comment about my ignorence when it comes to cars would be a hint. =) Open the muffler to fix something inside? Is she using a tool? If so, is the tool suited for the job? Relevant what tool it is? no to all | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 87 Registered: 5-2010 |
Galfisk, a clearification about the picture you showed earlier - the thing that broke off isn't actually VISIBLE on the picture | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1962 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is something damaged before she tries to fix it? Or is all damage caused by her trying to fix it? The thing she thought was something it wasn't, was it: the part that broke off? The part it broke off from? Was it the muffler? Did she think the problem was in a different part than it was? Is fixing the problem required to be able to drive the car? to drive it safely? To drive it without making lots of noise? I admit my car knowledge is quite limited as well. Oh, and fastener=fäste, fästanordning | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 90 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is something damaged before she tries to fix it? something is indeed damaged before she tries to fix the problem, but if she'd know what it was, she'd never have tried =) Or is all damage caused by her trying to fix it? no The thing she thought was something it wasn't, was it: the part that broke off? this The part it broke off from? Was it the muffler? no Did she think the problem was in a different part than it was? yesish Is fixing the problem required to be able to drive the car? no to drive it safely? likely To drive it without making lots of noise? yes =) I admit my car knowledge is quite limited as well. I guess the puzzle could be rather tricky then, I could give a hint on the technical bit. Oh, and fastener=fäste, fästanordning then definately no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1971 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is this summary correct? Something is damaged on a car's exhaus system, making it very noisy and potentially unsafe to drive. She tries to fix it by reaching under the rear of the car, but instead she manages to break off something, making the problem worse. If she had known what the real problem was, she would not have tried to fix it in the first place. | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 94 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is this summary correct? Something is damaged on a car's exhaus system yes, making it very noisy not yet and potentially unsafe to drive yes, probably. She tries to fix it yes and no... FA by reaching under the rear of the car yesish, but instead she manages to break off something yes, making the problem worse. yes If she had known what the real problem was, she would not have tried to fix it in the first place. she most definately would not | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 265 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was she the one trying to fix the car? Is there another person involved? Does the exhaust system become noisy after the part is broken off? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 266 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is she/anyone trying to even fix the car at all? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 97 Registered: 5-2010 |
Was she the one trying to fix the car? yes, but a little bit of FA Is there another person involved? yes, but not very significant. The scream of horror is adressed to the other person Does the exhaust system become noisy after the part is broken off? noisier Is she/anyone trying to even fix the car at all? yesish. should I give a hint? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 275 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the car broken at all in the first place? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 276 Registered: 4-2010 |
Clarification to last post: Was the car broken before "it" broke off? Is it broken now? Irreparable? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 99 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is the car broken at all in the first place? yes | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 100 Registered: 5-2010 |
Clarification to last post: Was the car broken before "it" broke off? yes Is it broken now? you mean after the thing broke off? Yes. But it's not broken today. Irreparable? it was repaired eventually, but not by me =) | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 103 Registered: 5-2010 |
My friend (who hasn't even got a driver's licence) soleved this amazingly fast. Unless anyone protests, I'll give you an hint in form of some of the brilliant questions she asked =) | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 106 Registered: 5-2010 |
Hint: part of the object that broke off was inside the car, and I couldn't see it | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 402 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would you be able to reach the broken object inside the car? Did the part break inside the car? Outside? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 107 Registered: 5-2010 |
Would you be able to reach the broken object inside the car? I didn't have to reach inside the car, but the part that was broken, and the thing that broke off wouldn't normally be seen from outside of the car Did the part break inside the car? something was broken inside the exhaust system Outside? But I could also (unexpectedly) see it from outside the car, and I had no clue what I was looking at, and jumped to a false conclution. The thing that I broke off, broke off outside of the car. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 406 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you have to look under the car to see the broken part? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 108 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did you have to look under the car to see the broken part? no | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 490 Registered: 4-2007 |
Would this story have happened if you had a different model, or is there something unique about the car you have? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 109 Registered: 5-2010 |
Would this story have happened if you had a different model yes, or is there something unique about the car you have? I doubt it Hint: I didn't think there was anything wrong with the car when I laid eyes on the problem | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 421 Registered: 4-2010 |
Wait...did you think something was wrong with something else? That was not the car? Or part of it? Like your cell phone? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 422 Registered: 4-2010 |
Clarification again: The third question in my last post should translate as "Was the thing you thought there was a problem with not a part of the car either?" | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 110 Registered: 5-2010 |
Wait...did you think something was wrong with something else? well, yes That was not the car? Or part of it? Let me put it like this: I didn't think there was a technical problem with the car, or anything being broken, or malfunctioning. But I did believe that there was somehing I needed to fix (involving the car) before I could safely drive it. Like your cell phone? nothing of the sort | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 111 Registered: 5-2010 |
Clarification again: The third question in my last post should translate as "Was the thing you thought there was a problem with not a part of the car either?" The thing that was the problem, WAS a part of the car, but I didn't think it was! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 441 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you think you needed to fill the gas tank? Inflate the tires? Or something like that? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2018 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did you think a foreign object was stuck to the car? And then tried to remove it? But you only broke it off? And it wasn't what you thought it was (a foreign object), but now you had a real cause to worry (because you had broken off something important)? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 114 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did you think you needed to fill the gas tank? Inflate the tires? Or something like that? nothing like this Did you think a foreign object was stuck to the car? yes, finally! =) And then tried to remove it? yes But you only broke it off? yes And it wasn't what you thought it was (a foreign object)exactly, but now you had a real cause to worry (because you had broken off something important)? well, the car was already broken before I started tampering with it. I made it worse, but probably only marginally. You should try to figure out what the 'foreign object' was. That's the fun part, but also the embarassing part. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 481 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the "foreign object" a personal item? Did you think you had stuck it on the car yourself? That it had become stuck while driving? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 117 Registered: 5-2010 |
Was the "foreign object" a personal item? Did you think you had stuck it on the car yourself? That it had become stuck while driving? haha, sorry, but no to all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 488 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you think it had gotten stuck naturally? Was the object once alive? | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 791 Registered: 6-2008 |
Was the foreign object, in your mind when you broke it off, a rock? a piece of vegetation? something else (possibly formerly) alive? a piece of trash picked up from the road? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 119 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did you think it had gotten stuck naturally? not exactly natually... I was spooked like hell Was the object once alive? that's what I thought Was the foreign object, in your mind when you broke it off, a rock? a piece of vegetation? something else (possibly formerly) alive? this! a piece of trash picked up from the road? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 494 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you think a bird was stuck on your car? A squirrel? Or other roadkill? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2022 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did you think it was a dead animal? Or part of one? A snake? A mammal? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 122 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did you think a bird was stuck on your car? a bird - yes. Stuck on - not quite. A squirrel? Or other roadkill? I didn't think it had been run over or hit by the car Did you think it was a dead animal? yes, bird Or part of one? A snake? A mammal? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 496 Registered: 4-2010 |
Stuck in your car? In the radiator grille? In the exhaust pipe? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 124 Registered: 5-2010 |
Stuck in your car? In the radiator grille? In the exhaust pipe? this! XD | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 499 Registered: 4-2010 |
So you thought a bird was stuck in your exhaust pipe? But it was actually part of the exhaust system? And you tore it off the car? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 125 Registered: 5-2010 |
So you thought a bird was stuck in your exhaust pipe? But it was actually part of the exhaust system? And you tore it off the car? You got it. And here is the confession: * * * SPOILER * * * I was borrowing my mother's car and something broke inside the car's muffler. Some kind of padding or isolating material was sticking out of the exhaust pipe. When I spotted this on the parking lot, I was certain that a bird somehow had got stuck inside the pipe. The material looked exactly like the tailfeathers of a bird! I was really creeped out, but had no other choice but to they to pull it out, since I figured I couldn't drive a car with something blocking the exhaust pipe. As I pulled on the thing, I found that it was "stuck" really hard and it only came out very slowly, until it broke off! I thought I had just ripped a bird in half, and hence my scream of horror. That was also when I realized it wasn't a bird at all, but some part of the car that really shouldn't be coming out of the exhaust pipe. That's when I phoned my dad for help. =) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 521 Registered: 4-2010 |
Great story! A similar thing happened to my dad, only it really was a bird, he didn't rip it in half, and its feet were sticking out of the radiator grille. Needless to say, it was NOT a pleasant sight. Can't wait to see your next puzzle! |
