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Balin (Balin)
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7. 2. 0?
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Is someone saying this? Is "6!" part of the sequence? Start of the sequence? Is the 0 surprising? Puzzling?
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Is someone saying this? No Is "6!" part of the sequence? No Start of the sequence? No Is the 0 surprising? No Puzzling? No
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If the title had been "[Balin] 7!" would the first post have been "5. 0. 4. 0?" ?
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If the title had been "[Balin] 7!" would the first post have been "5. 0. 4. 0?" ? No. But that is how I got the title - nice deduction!
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Are these three numbers representative of something?
The same things?
Different things?
Are they a sequence?
Part of an equation?
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Is this at all similar to the classic puzzle involving the club? Is a code relevant? Is multiplication involved? Addition? Subtraction? Division? Exponents? Roots?
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Are these three numbers representative of something? Yes!
The same things? Yes
Different things? No
Are they a sequence? Yes
Part of an equation? No

Is this at all similar to the classic puzzle involving the club? Not at all Is a code relevant? No Is multiplication involved? Addition? Subtraction? Division? Exponents? Roots? None of these, although in a really lateral sense, subtraction would be involved.
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6! = 720
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6! = 720 It does, but that's not relevant. Well, not really. That is how I came up with the puzzle title though - think about where you might find factorials.
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So factorials are relevant?
Are permutations relevant?
Are they representative of actual objects?
Or living things?
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So factorials are relevant? No, not at all, except where you will find them.
Are permutations relevant? No
Are they representative of actual objects? The numbers? Yesish
Or living things? Yes!
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Representative of people?
Math Class?
The number of people enrolled in the math class over time?
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Representative of people? Yes!
Math Class? No...
The number of people enrolled in the math class over time? Very close, but no
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So is it number of people over time?
Is school relevant?
Textbook relevant?
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So is it number of people over time? Yes!
Is school relevant? Yes
Textbook relevant? No
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Are the people in question students?
Teachers?
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Is it people in a particular place? In a building? Are people leaving? Dying? Disappearing mysteriously?

Is 0 a question because it is puzzling? Possible, but not certain? Impossible?
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Are the people in question students? Yes
Teachers? No

Is it people in a particular place? Yesish In a building? Yope Are people leaving? Yes, but not always in the way you're thinking Dying? No Disappearing mysteriously? No

Is 0 a question because it is puzzling? No Possible, but not certain? Yes Impossible? No
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Is it the number of students awake over time?
Present over time?
Following the teacher over time?
Is the time:
length of the class?
length of the school day?
length of the semester?
length of the school year?
longer?
in between any of those?
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Is it the number of students awake over time? Heehee, no
Present over time? Yesish
Following the teacher over time? No
Is the time:
length of the class?
length of the school day?
length of the semester?
length of the school year?
longer? Assuming "time" refers to the total time of all three numbers combined, this one
in between any of those?
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Is the time:
2 years? 3 years? 4 years? longer?
Is the number decreasing because the students involved are graduating?
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Is the time:
2 years? 3 years? This 4 years? longer?
Is the number decreasing because the students involved are graduating? YES! (Well, most of them are.)
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Are they a specific group of students?
A group of friends?
They share a common interest?
Is it a group you were involved in (I know you just recently graduated)?
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Are they a specific group of students? Yes
A group of friends? Yes, but irr for this puzzle
They share a common interest? Yes
Is it a group you were involved in (I know you just recently graduated)? Yes
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Membership in the Math Club?
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Membership in the Math Club? No. I was on math team though - good guess!

HINT: The class/club itself is not math-related.
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Are these relevant:
number of relationships between entities?
rehearsals? competition schedules? puzzles?
reason for the declining membership?
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Are these relevant:
number of relationships between entities? Elaborate please, but I think no.
rehearsals? To the class, yes. The puzzle, no. competition schedules? No puzzles? No
reason for the declining membership? Not really.
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Was it an academic organization?
A sport?
Other game (chess?)
Was it musical?
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Was it an academic organization? No
A sport? No
Other game (chess?) No
Was it musical? YES!! Shouldn't be long now....
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Was it a school band?
Or a garage band or something similar?
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Was it a school band? No
Or a garage band or something similar? No
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Is it music performance?
Orchestra?
Vocal?
Choir?
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Is it music performance? Yes
Orchestra? No
Vocal? Yes
Choir? YES!
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ok, so do the numbers represent everyone in the choir?
Or a subset of the group?
Such as males?
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ok, so do the numbers represent everyone in the choir? No
Or a subset of the group? Yes
Such as males? Exactly!
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So they are representative of the number of males in the choir over a period of time, which decreased as the males graduated?
What should I be trying to figure out now?
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So they are representative of the number of males in the choir over a period of time, which decreased as the males graduated? Exactly right.
What should I be trying to figure out now? Only why the 0 has a question mark after it; then this will have been $poyled.
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Will there be one day none at all? Castrati relevant?
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Will there be one day none at all? Quite possibly Castrati relevant? No

This is pretty close, and this puzzle wasn't as good as I thought, so here's the

**********SPOILER**********

The numbers represent the number of guys in my high school choir over the years. Two years ago, there were 7. This year, 2. Next year, both guys (myself [tenor] and one other [bass]) will have graduated, so there may be no guys in choir next year. This is not good news to me, as I greatly enjoyed choir and would be saddened to see the male voices be absent from it. (Not that the girls are any bad - they're good, but our choir is best with mixed genders.)

Nice work to everyone involved, especially It_so_happened for most of the work, and Jenburdoo for the coda.
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And some background information, as I'm sure some of you are wondering how a high school choir could have 7 guys in it:

I went to a small, private, Christian school for pretty much my whole life (13 years). The high school consists of 120 students. Our choir two years ago had about 35 people, but membership dramatically dropped to 12 this past year. Next year...who knows?

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