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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, July 30, 2010 - 9:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He died because it melted.
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Posted on Friday, July 30, 2010 - 10:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Could this be related to the classic puzzle about the man who hangs himself by standing on a block of ice?

Is it=ice? he=HAM? Did someone kill him? One person? or several? Was it suicide?
True story? Time period relevant? (If so, [LTPF list of centuries]?)
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Could this be related to the classic puzzle about the man who hangs himself by standing on a block of ice? I suppose it could be, but it isn't.

Is it=ice? No he=HAM? Yes Did someone kill him? Yes One person? or several? This Was it suicide? No
True story? No Time period relevant? Assume yes (If so, [LTPF list of centuries]?) 21st
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 12:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Could this have happened in the early 20th century? In the 1990s? Does it involve technology?

Did he die by [LTPF list of ways to die]?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 1:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Could this have happened in the early 20th century? Yes In the 1990s? Yes Does it involve technology? No

Did he die by [LTPF list of ways to die]? Explosion, but beware of potential FA
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 4:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is "it" something designed to stop explosions? Space shuttle O-rings relevant? Did anyone else die?

Was the explosion that of a vehicle? (car? plane?)

Did he die immediately when "it" melted? minutes? hours? days? years?

Did many others share the same fate?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 5:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is "it" something designed to stop explosions? Yesish to Yope Space shuttle O-rings relevant? No Did anyone else die? No

Was the explosion that of a vehicle? No (car? plane?)

Did he die immediately when "it" melted? Yes, if not, mere seconds after. minutes? hours? days? years?

Did many others share the same fate? No
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 3:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the "it": metal? Plastic? Rubber? Wax? An explosive? Was there a fire before the explosion? Was the explosion from a: solid explosive? Liquid explosive? Gas? Aerosol? Dust? Rupture of pressurized vessel? Volcanic activity? Nuclear chain reaction? Impact?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 3:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the "it": metal? Plastic? Rubber? Wax? This An explosive? Was there a fire before the explosion? Yes, but only for a split second Was the explosion from a: solid explosive? Yes, with slightly svv of "explosive" Liquid explosive? Gas? Aerosol? Dust? Rupture of pressurized vessel? Volcanic activity? Nuclear chain reaction? Impact?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 3:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the fire ignite the explosive? Or did it melt the wax? Did the man know what was happening? Was he trying to stop it? Did the wax provide: an airtight seal? Electrical insulation? Was it part of a temperature sensor? Was it supposed to melt? To cause an explosion? Or was it just in the wrong place and time?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 5:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the fire ignite the explosive? No Or did it melt the wax? No Did the man know what was happening? No Was he trying to stop it? No Did the wax provide: an airtight seal? Yope Electrical insulation? No Was it part of a temperature sensor? No Was it supposed to melt? Yes To cause an explosion? Yes Or was it just in the wrong place and time? No

BLOOPER: Assume there was no fire before the explosion.
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 5:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the wax seal: air? Water? Other liquid? Was it melted by heat? By chemical reaction? Did water get into a vessel and mix with an incompatible chemical, resulting in an explosion? Was the was a time delay mechanism? Was it a trap? Was the killing of the man intentional? Did the man cause the wax to melt? Intentionally?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 6:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the wax seal: air? Water? Other liquid? None of these Was it melted by heat? Yesish By chemical reaction? No Did water get into a vessel No and mix with an incompatible chemical, Yes resulting in an explosion? Yes Was the was a time delay mechanism? No Was it a trap? Yope Was the killing of the man intentional? Yes Did the man cause the wax to melt? Yes Intentionally? No
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 6:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the man cause the melting by body heat? Was the wax a candle? Was it candle wax dripped onto something? Or molded? Relevant? Was water already inside the vessel? But separated from the chemical by a wax seal? Did something other than water mix with the chemical? Something produced by the body? Such as sweat? Or saliva? Or stomach acid? Did he swallow the explosive? Relevant what the exploding substance was exactly?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 6:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the man cause the melting by body heat? No Was the wax a candle? No Was it candle wax dripped onto something? No Or molded? The wax, yope. Relevant? Yes Was water already inside the vessel? No, FA But separated from the chemical by a wax seal? Yes Did something other than water mix with the chemical? No Something produced by the body? No Such as sweat? Or saliva? Or stomach acid? Hence no to these Did he swallow the explosive? No, but OTRT. Relevant what the exploding substance was exactly? Yes
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 6:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the exploding substance an alkali metal? Was it covered in wax? And submerged in water? Did the man heat the water? for cooking?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 6:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the exploding substance an alkali metal? Yes! Was it covered in wax? Yes! And submerged in water? Noish Did the man heat the water? Noish for cooking? No
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Was it submerged in some other liquid? Was it not submerged at all? Did the man submerge it? Was it inside a tea bag? Inside something else someone could be expected to drop into hot water? Such as a sugar cube? Was it covered in wax primarily to keep it from corroding in air?
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Was it submerged in some other liquid? No Was it not submerged at all? Yes Did the man submerge it? No Was it inside a tea bag? No Inside something else someone could be expected to drop into hot water? No Such as a sugar cube? No Was it covered in wax primarily to keep it from corroding in air? Yes
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Was water poured on it? Did the man intend to make food? Or drink? Or wash himself? Was it hidden inside a pot? Or water boiler? Or water heater? Or washing machine? Or dishwasher?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 7:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was water poured on it? Yope Did the man intend to make food? Or drink? No to these Or wash himself? Yes! Was it hidden inside a pot? Or water boiler? Or water heater? Or washing machine? Or dishwasher? None of these
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 7:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it in the shower? Was the metal hidden inside the shower head? And when he turned on the hot water...boom! ? Or was it in the bathtub? Or faucet? Or a bar of soap? Or similar?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 7:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it in the shower? Yes, but beware FA Was the metal hidden inside the shower head? No And when he turned on the hot water...boom! ? Yes! Or was it in the bathtub? Or faucet? Or a bar of soap? Or similar? No to all
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Was it hidden? In plain view? In the sink? Was there a bathtub? Or shower cabinet?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 7:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it hidden? No In plain view? Yes In the sink? No Was there a bathtub? No Or shower cabinet? No
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Was some object exchanged for a fake wax-covered alkali metal part? Part of the fixtures? Did he bring it into the shower? Did it look like metal? Like wax? Like something else?
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Was some object exchanged for a fake wax-covered alkali metal part? No Part of the fixtures? No Did he bring it into the shower? Yes Did it look like metal? Yes Like wax? Like something else? Hence no to these
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Did he bring it into the shower to: use it while showering? Or afterwards? To clean it? To wear it? Was it jewelry?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he bring it into the shower to: use it while showering? Yope Or afterwards? Yope To clean it? No To wear it? Yes... Was it jewelry? Yes! (tiny ish)
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 7:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a ring? Chain? Piercing? Crown? Handcuff? Necklace? Prosthetic?
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 7:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a ring? Chain? Piercing? Crown? Handcuff? Necklace? This-ish, but close enough; it was a medallion. Prosthetic?

That's a

**********SPOILER**********

In the book Ark Angel, by Anthony Horowitz, a man is killed when, after losing a soccer game on a blown penalty kick, he is given a medallion by some of the bad guys. He puts on the medallion and goes to take a shower. However, the medallion is made of cesium, with a wax coating to protect it from the atmosphere. The wax melts in the shower, and the cesium medallion explodes, killing him.

Kudos go to Fermat for some good questions early, and Galfisk for the rest.
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Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2010 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, and the title: The chapter of the book where this occurs is called "Blue Murder."

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