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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 3:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What sequence starts with 51 and ends with 11?
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Are Roman numerals relevant at all?
Balin (Balin)
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Are Roman numerals relevant at all? No
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Are there only numbers in the sequence? If not, are there letters? Symbols?

Relevant if the sequence is written or pronounced? If so, relevant where is it written? By whom is it pronounced? Relevant the font used to write the sequence?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 3:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are there only numbers in the sequence? Yope If not, are there letters? Yope Symbols? Yope

Relevant if the sequence is written or pronounced? Yes - it is pronounced If so, relevant where is it written? See previous By whom is it pronounced? Yesish Relevant the font used to write the sequence? See previous
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 3:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Roman numerals relevant? Relevant how it's pronounced? In what language? Or dialect?
Balin (Balin)
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Roman numerals relevant? No Relevant how it's pronounced? Yes, DOYD of "how" In what language? No (tiny ish) Or dialect? No (tinier ish)
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Speech impediment relevant? Or other impairment? Is 51 pronounced "fifty-one"? Is 11 pronounced "eleven"? Does either pronunciation sound like some other word (or several words)?
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Speech impediment relevant? No Or other impairment? No Is 51 pronounced "fifty-one"? FA Is 11 pronounced "eleven"? FA Does either pronunciation sound like some other word (or several words)? Yopish, FA
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Is the sound of the "pronounced" sequence similar to some word, or phrase? Example: in french the word "cassette" is often written "K7", as "K" is pronounced "ka" and 7 "sept", giving "ka-sept"

Is the sequence completed by 1 more number/character? 2? 3? [LTPF list of integers]?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 4:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the sound of the "pronounced" sequence similar to some word, or phrase? Not "similar to," but... Example: in french the word "cassette" is often written "K7", as "K" is pronounced "ka" and 7 "sept", giving "ka-sept" Not this

Is the sequence completed by 1 more number/character? 2? 3? [LTPF list of integers]? 100 others, for a total of 102. And neither "number" nor "character" is the word I'd use, though "character" is closer.
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Is the sequence mostly made of things that cannot be expressed in numeric form? Or, if they can be expressed as numbers, would any of them be integers between 11 and 51? Would any be higher than 51? Lower than 11? Would any be fractions? Decimals? Negatives?

Is the sequence made up of things that are being represented by numbers? If so, tangible things? People?

Does the sequence follow a predictable mathematical pattern? An alphabetical one? Chronological?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 5:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the sequence mostly made of things that cannot be expressed in numeric form? They can be, but usually are not. Or, if they can be expressed as numbers, would any of them be integers between 11 and 51? Would any be higher than 51? Lower than 11? Would any be fractions? Decimals? Negatives? If expressed as numbers, they would be the integers 1 through 102.

Is the sequence made up of things that are being represented by numbers? Yes! If so, tangible things? Yes People? Not this

Does the sequence follow a predictable mathematical pattern? No An alphabetical one? No Chronological? No
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Are they part of a game? Are they on a list? Is computer science relevant? Math? Some sort of top list? R.E.M. relevant?
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Are they part of a game? No Are they on a list? Yesish Is computer science relevant? Not computer science, but... Math? No Some sort of top list? No R.E.M. relevant? No =)
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Are the numbers some sort of ranking? Is 11 at the top of the list? And 51 at the bottom? And all others in between?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the numbers some sort of ranking? No Is 11 at the top of the list? No And 51 at the bottom? No And all others in between? But yes
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Is 51 at the top of the list? And 11 at the bottom? Is something chronological involved? Were the numbers assigned in another list? Is a field of science relevant? Chemistry? The periodic table of elements?
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It's the order of the elements in the Tom Lehrer song, isn't it? (begins with antimony = 51, ends with sodium = 11)
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Gah I was going to ask about the periodic table. Inspired guess Whirligig which I'm sure is right.
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 9:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's the order of the elements in the Tom Lehrer song, isn't it? (begins with antimony = 51, ends with sodium = 11) Indeed it is, and that means it's time for a

**********SPOILER**********

"There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium,
And hydrogen and oxygen and nitrogen and rhenium
And nickel, neodymium, neptunium, germanium
And iron, americium, ruthenium, uranium.
Europium, zircodium, lutetium, vanadium,
And lanthanum and osmium and astatine and radium
And gold, protactinium, and indium, and gallium...
And iodine and thorium and thulium and thallium.

"There's yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium
And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium
And strontium and silicon and silver and samarium
And bismuth, bromine, lithium, beryllium, and barium.


"There's holmium and helium and hafnium and erbium
And phosphorus and francium and fluorine and terbium
And manganese and mercury, molybdenum, magnesium,
Dysprosium and scandium and cerium and cesium
And lead, praesyodinium, and platinum, plutonium,
Paladium, promethium, potassium, polonium
And tantalum, technetium, titanium, tellurium...
And cadmium and calcium and chromium and curium.

"There's sulfur, californium and fermium, berkelium
And also mendelevium, einsteinium, nobelium,
And argon, krypton, neon, radon, xenon, zinc, and rhodium
And chlorine, carbon, cobalt, copper, tungsten, tin, and sodium.

"These are the only ones of which the news has come to Hah'vard...
And there may be many others but they haven't been discah'vered."

As Whirligig correctly determined, the song leads off with the 51st element and closes with the 11th. And yes, I have this song memorized.

Nice job, everybody.
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Shoot, you have the whole thing memorized? I only know half of it.
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Quote: "These are the only ones of which the news has come to Hah'vard...
And there may be many others but they haven't been discah'vered."

Some more have by now, haven't they? *isn't sure what's left* Although that song drives me nuts. I love it, but it drives me insane. I was just about to go to bed...and it's in my head now!! AGH!! Lol!
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 9:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What's left? Well, a whole bunch named after people....lawrencium, rutherfordium, dubnium, seaborgium, bohrium, hassium, meitnerium, darmstadtium, roentgenium, and copernicium, not counting the ones that have the numerical names.

BTW, the title - Lehrer's concerts were called "An Evening Wasted with Tom Lehrer."

And of course, there's Lehrer's "Ancient Greek" version of the song... "There's earth and air and fire and water." Much easier to memorize.

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