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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, August 30, 2010 - 6:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For several years, I had a scrund about birds, which was both passive and active. This scrund was finally cured when I arrived at college. What's the scrund?
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Was it about all birds? Or only flying birds? Is it about bird behavior? Whether they are warmblooded? Was your scrund true for some species of birds? Or completely false? Did you get it because something you observed? Read? Was told? Or something you missed? Or misunderstood?
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Posted on Monday, August 30, 2010 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Birds = warm-blooded, egg-laying, feathered vertebrates?
Was it cured because of something they taught you at the college? Because of the birds that lived around your college? Somebody there told you about it?
Balin (Balin)
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Was it about all birds? No Or only flying birds? Yope Is it about bird behavior? No they are warmblooded? No Was your scrund true for some species of birds? No Or completely false? Yes Did you get it because something you observed? Read? Was told? Or something you missed? Or misunderstood? I actually have no idea how I got it. Probably from something I read and misunderstood.

Birds = warm-blooded, egg-laying, feathered vertebrates? Yesish
Was it cured because of something they taught you at the college? Noish Because of the birds that lived around your college? No Somebody there told you about it? No
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Was your scrund about a particular subspecies of birds e.g raptors? or a specific breed say cuckoos?

Anything to do with how or what they eat? nest? breed? relationship with humans?

IYHO is this scrund ridiculous or do you figure lots of other people have it?
Balin (Balin)
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Was your scrund about a particular subspecies of birds e.g raptors? or a specific breed say cuckoos? Don't know if I can call it a breed or subspecies, but it was a single type of bird.

Anything to do with how or what they eat? nest? breed? relationship with humans? None of these

IYHO is this scrund ridiculous or do you figure lots of other people have it? Ridiculous-ish (that's where the whole active/passive thing comes in), and I doubt anyone else has it.
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Does it have to do anything with ostriches? That they have suicidal tendency (it crossed my mind yesterday, when I watched Prince of Persia :-) ) or that they are burying their heads in the sand?

BTW: Whats the difference between active and passive scrund? I don't quite get it...
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it have to do anything with ostriches? No That they have suicidal tendency (it crossed my mind yesterday, when I watched Prince of Persia :-) ) Never seen that... or that they are burying their heads in the sand? No

BTW: Whats the difference between active and passive scrund? I don't quite get it... An active scrund is something you regularly assume/think about. The first ever scrund was Nimue's - she thought that Christian doctrine held that Jesus healed leopards (as opposed to lepers). A passive scrund is something you take for granted, but don't think about on a regular basis. Another good example of this (another Nimue puzzle as well) is that China has only one time zone, but most people would assume it has more. Hope that clears things up.
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Did you ever see the bird in question? Is it a real one? If you saw her, it was at a zoo? In the park? In a book? Is it (the scrund) related to the bird's name? Its country of origin? Is it the passive/active fact (if I've got the idea right) something like you misunderstood something and then you took the wrong information as granted?
Balin (Balin)
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Did you ever see the bird in question? No, because... Is it a real one? NO. Excellent question! If you saw her, it was at a zoo? In the park? In a book? No to all Is it (the scrund) related to the bird's name? No Its country of origin? No Is it the passive/active fact (if I've got the idea right) something like you misunderstood something and then you took the wrong information as granted? Yesish. I'll explain the whole thing if you can figure out what the scrund itself actually was.
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If it was not a real bird, was it: from a story? a cartoon? a movie? Anyone else had the chance to see that bird? Do we try a find a scrund about a specific bird or is it a bird like the condor in golf? BTW, golf involved? Is it relevant that you got rid of the scrund at the time you went to college?
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If it was not a real bird, was it: from a story? Yes, slight svv of "story" a cartoon? a movie? Anyone else had the chance to see that bird? See it? Please elaborate Do we try a find a scrund about a specific bird This or is it a bird like the condor in golf? Not this BTW, golf involved? No =) Is it relevant that you got rid of the scrund at the time you went to college? Yes
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Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 11:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, did you think that this bird actually exists and then you found out that it's not real? Or vice versa?
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About the seeing part -- I meant: did you just read about the bird or was some kind of a picture in the book? Like in children books? Has the bird actually existed at some point in time? But it is extinct now?
Balin (Balin)
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So, did you think that this bird actually exists and then you found out that it's not real? Yesish Or vice versa No

About the seeing part -- I meant: did you just read about the bird This or was some kind of a picture in the book? Noish Like in children books? No Has the bird actually existed at some point in time? No But it is extinct now? No
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Would someone, not reading that book, knew of the bird's existence? (By existence I mean fictional existence). Is the geographical location of the college you went to relevant for "curing" your scrund?
Balin (Balin)
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Would someone, not reading that book, knew of the bird's existence? Yes, although I can't remember the specific book. (By existence I mean fictional existence). Understood Is the geographical location of the college you went to relevant for "curing" your scrund? Yope - something specific about the college is relevant. (Go ahead and use my profile/Google to find out more.)
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Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 4:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Possible $poiler emailed.
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 7:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Possible $poiler emailed. Possible $poyler correct, and that's all we need to find out for the

**********SPOILER**********

I attend Elon University in North Carolina, and our mascot is the phoenix. During orientation (a few days ago), we received a pamphlet including the history of the mythical phoenix, and I realized that for several years now, I'd believed that there was such a real bird as a phoenix. Apparently, I'd somehow thought that this real phoenix was named for the mythical one, although it did not "rise from the ashes" etc.

My scrund was both passive and active: passive because I'd never thought about the "real phoenix," and active because whenever I thought about the mythical phoenix, I disassociated it from the "real" one, thus keeping my scrund alive.

Nice job everyone, most notably Rbruma for the solve.

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