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Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1828 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 9:34 pm: |      |
I just can't forget Shaun Lewis. One of Spoctor's, perhaps. Chocolate rain? Boom-boom! |
Biograd (Biograd)
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Post Number: 951 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 9:49 pm: |      |
Is this puzzle in the style of the game Charades? Is each "sentence" in the puzzle statement a word? or syllable? in the answer? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 1831 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 10:00 pm: |      |
Is this puzzle in the style of the game Charades? Yes, but in a rather loose way Is each "sentence" in the puzzle statement a word? or syllable? in the answer? More or less, yes: each part of the statement is a clue to a word or phrase in the solution. It's not syllabic, though. |
Biograd (Biograd)
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Post Number: 952 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 11:03 pm: |      |
Are the clues real synonyms? or are these cryptic crossword type clues that involve (for example) anagrams, insertions, reversing the order of letters, etc.? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1838 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 11:14 pm: |      |
Are the clues real synonyms? no or are these cryptic crossword type clues that involve (for example) anagrams, insertions, reversing the order of letters, etc.? They're cryptic hints. No anagrams on this occasion, and no messing with letters. Each word (or phrase) in the clue leads to a word (or phrase) in the solution. |
La_sparky (La_sparky)
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Post Number: 104 Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 12:40 am: |      |
I= you? Shaun Lewis= HAM? real person? FYOI? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 4024 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 1:26 am: |      |
Spoctor's - a business? A person (in the possessive)? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 1840 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 8:38 am: |      |
I= you? no Shaun Lewis= HAM? no real person? no FYOI? no Spoctor's - a business? no A person (in the possessive)? yes indeed |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 2843 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 10:37 am: |      |
Is the solution a song title by any chance? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 1843 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 10:49 am: |      |
Is the solution a song title by any chance? not this time, I'm afraid |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 4046 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 1:36 pm: |      |
Do we need to figure out what the "one" of Spoctor's is? Is it an object? A person? Is Spoctor a real person? Fictional? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 2848 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 1:42 pm: |      |
Just to clarify, are there 5 words in the phrase? represented by 1 I just can't forget Shaun Lewis. 2 One of Spoctor's. 3 Perhaps. 4 Chocolate Rain. 5 Boom Boom ? Is the way you've spelled Shaun relevant? or could it be Sean Lewis? or Shawn Lewis? Longshot this but Boom Boom is golfer Freddie Couples' nickname is this OTRT? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 1847 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 2:21 pm: |      |
Do we need to figure out what the "one" of Spoctor's is? yes Is it an object? not a tangible object, no A person? no Is Spoctor a real person? very much so Fictional? no Just to clarify, are there 5 words in the phrase? actually there are nineteen words in the eventual solution, but I'd better not answer too many questions about the eventual solution, because it might spoil the fun of solving the various bits represented by 1 I just can't forget Shaun Lewis. 2 One of Spoctor's. 3 Perhaps. 4 Chocolate Rain. 5 Boom Boom ? You're right to subdivide the puzzle into chunks. The clues are in logical order, but the subdivisions are different. There are seven clues in all. Is the way you've spelled Shaun relevant? yes or could it be Sean Lewis? no Shawn Lewis? no, good question Longshot this but Boom Boom is golfer Freddie Couples' nickname is this OTRT? these sorts of word associations are the key to the puzzle, but this isn't the one |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2851 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 2:50 pm: |      |
Ok I'll steer clear of questions regarding the make up of the solution. Boom Boom - Basil Brush? If not is this the boom boom one would say after a punchline? Does it represent the sound of guns or canons? Is Spoctor any play on the word Doctor? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1851 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 3:24 pm: |      |
Boom Boom - Basil Brush? I was wondering if you'd think of him! But no If not is this the boom boom one would say after a punchline? noDoes it represent the sound of guns or canons? no Is Spoctor any play on the word Doctor? yes! |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4057 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 4:27 pm: |      |
Shaun - Shaun of the Dead? Spoctor - is that a portmanteau? Maybe "specialized doctor"? "Special doctor"? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1852 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 5:43 pm: |      |
Shaun - Shaun of the Dead? Yes! Well done. Spoctor - is that a portmanteau? no: not Lewis Carroll but a contemporary of his Maybe "specialized doctor"? "Special doctor"? neither of these |
Biograd (Biograd)
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Post Number: 953 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 7:26 pm: |      |
Is Spoctor Dr. Spock? Is "chocolate rain" one clue, or two? Does it have anything to do with Charlie And The Chocolate Factory (that's what it made me think of, where they had chocolate rivers and stuff)? Or is the name of a brand of chocolate relevant? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1854 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 7:35 pm: |      |
Is Spoctor Dr. Spock? no Is "chocolate rain" one clue, or two? good question: it's two clues, back to back Does it have anything to do with Charlie And The Chocolate Factory (that's what it made me think of, where they had chocolate rivers and stuff)? not this Or is the name of a brand of chocolate relevant? not a brand, no |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4068 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 9:53 pm: |      |
So with "Shaun of the Dead"...is "Shaun Lewis" one clue or two? Is there any further linking we need to do with "Shaun of the Dead", or is "of the dead" part of the answer? |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Post Number: 2286 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 9:58 pm: |      |
Isn't Shaun Lewis also a football player? Is part of the answer related to sports? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1856 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 10:10 pm: |      |
So with "Shaun of the Dead"...is "Shaun Lewis" one clue or two? good question: it is two Is there any further linking we need to do with "Shaun of the Dead", or is "of the dead" part of the answer? the latter Isn't Shaun Lewis also a football player? he may be, but he is a red herring: see above Is part of the answer related to sports? no |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2854 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 10:51 pm: |      |
Could the lewis refer to Morse's sidekick? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1857 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 10:59 pm: |      |
Could the lewis refer to Morse's sidekick? Actually, he featured on the Round Britain Quiz this week. One of my favourite programmes. Quite a few of our puzzles seem to be in this vein at the moment. But no, you need a different Lewis altogether. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4080 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 12:18 am: |      |
Is the "Lewis" a first name? Last name? A real person? Fictional? A person at all? Lewis Carroll? Lewis on The Drew Carey Show? Leona Lewis? Jerry Lewis? Is the spelling necessarily "Lewis"? Or could this be a "Louis"? |
Whirligig (Whirligig)
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Post Number: 204 Registered: 8-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 12:36 am: |      |
Lewis & Clark? |
Kaygee (Kaygee)
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Post Number: 487 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 12:37 am: |      |
Chocolate: Is it a type of chocolate candy? Is "can't forget" part of the solution? If so: Does it mean to remember? recall? memorable? lost? found? |
Biograd (Biograd)
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Post Number: 954 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 1:12 am: |      |
Chocolate: A type of chocolate (white, dark, etc.)? Something that can be chocolate flavored (cake, milk, etc.)? a dark brown color? Rain: in the sense of precipitation? in the sense of a word preceding? or following it? (as in "check", from "rain check") |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1859 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:13 am: |      |
Is the "Lewis" a first name? no Last name? no A real person? no Fictional? no A person at all? no Lewis Carroll? Lewis on The Drew Carey Show? Leona Lewis? Jerry Lewis? none of these, I'm afraid Is the spelling necessarily "Lewis"? yes Or could this be a "Louis"? no Lewis & Clark? no Chocolate: Is it a type of chocolate candy? it's not a candy bar, but it is a well-known chocolatey confection of sorts Is "can't forget" part of the solution? it is a clue to a part of the solution, and I have to admit it's the most obscure bit of the entire puzzle If so: Does it mean to remember? yes, but in a specific context recall? memorable? lost? found? Chocolate: A type of chocolate (white, dark, etc.)? not really this sort of thing Something that can be chocolate flavored (cake, milk, etc.)? not milk, but cake is certainly OTRT a dark brown color? not just a colour Rain: in the sense of precipitation? yes in the sense of a word preceding? or following it? yes: simply this (as in "check", from "rain check") but not 'check' |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2857 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:36 am: |      |
Is Lewis an animal? He's not that cat that was put under house arrest in the states is he? So we're looking for 1 word that follows rain? fall? cloud? coat? break? delay? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1860 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 11:49 am: |      |
Is Lewis an animal? no He's not that cat that was put under house arrest in the states is he? Haha, I'm going to google that. Sounds hilarious. No, nothing so strange. So we're looking for 1 word that follows rain? yes fall? cloud? coat? break? delay? but not these |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1861 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 11:56 am: |      |
Ah yes, here he is. He doesn't look like he could hurt a fly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ruthlewis.jpg |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 4113 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 12:27 pm: |      |
"can't forget": Elephants? "rain": Drop? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1863 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 12:39 pm: |      |
"can't forget": Elephants? "rain": Drop? neither of these, I'm afraid |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2858 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 12:53 pm: |      |
The funniest part of that story is that someone picked Lewis out from an ID parade. Is the fact that SP replaces the D in Doctor relevant? Could it be any two letters say BLoctor? If SP is relevant then does that lead us to Horse Racing? Is the cake a swiss roll? Is lewis an inanimate object? A machine of sorts? This is starting to feel like a woubit christmas special. Which is a good thing I might add |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1864 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 1:09 pm: |      |
The funniest part of that story is that someone picked Lewis out from an ID parade. well, he is quite distinctive-looking Is the fact that SP replaces the D in Doctor relevant? yes Could it be any two letters say BLoctor? not at all If SP is relevant then does that lead us to Horse Racing? nowhere near as obscure as this Is the cake a swiss roll? the famous 'jammed cylinder' of crossword fame? No. Is lewis an inanimate object? yes, for svv of 'object', though that isn't the word you'd normally use A machine of sorts? Good thinking: I believe there is a hoisting device called a lewis, but it isn't this This is starting to feel like a woubit christmas special. Which is a good thing I might add Hehe, I take it as a compliment |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 4121 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 3:53 pm: |      |
So, let me see if I can separate the clues: "can't forget" "Shaun" - this has been determined to be "of the dead" "Lewis" "Spoctor's" "Chocolate" "Rain" "Boom-boom!" Is this right? Chocolate - is Willy Wonka relevant? Is this a type of chocolate? Milk chocolate? Dark chocolate? White chocolate? Hot chocolate? Is the cacao tree relevant? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1866 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 4:37 pm: |      |
So, let me see if I can separate the clues: good plan "can't forget" I just can't forget "Shaun" - this has been determined to be "of the dead" yes "Lewis" yes "Spoctor's" one of Spoctor's, perhaps "Chocolate" yes "Rain" yes "Boom-boom!" yes Is this right? yes, but all the words are relevant Chocolate - is Willy Wonka relevant? no, he isn't Is this a type of chocolate? no, think more along the lines of cakey confections: see above Milk chocolate? Dark chocolate? White chocolate? potentially all of these, but none of these is the phrase you're seeking Hot chocolate? No, I don't believe in miracles Is the cacao tree relevant? no |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4140 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 4:53 pm: |      |
OK, then...Ho Hos? Devil Dogs? Ring Dings? Anything made by Hostess? Or just Hostess? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4141 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 4:54 pm: |      |
Oh, and that above all goes with "chocolate". Rain: storm? Thunder? Lightning? Rain - the person? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1868 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 5:08 pm: |      |
OK, then...Ho Hos? Devil Dogs? Ring Dings? Anything made by Hostess? Or just Hostess? I have never heard of any of these! Must be US products. Drake's Cakes indeed! No. It's something more widely known than these. Rain: storm? Thunder? Lightning? none of these: just a word that goes after 'rain' Rain - the person? nope: I'm learning lots of new info here! |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4145 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 5:13 pm: |      |
All right then... Is it a chocolate company? Hershey's? Cadbury? Is it devil's food cake? And now for "rain..." Rainout? Raincoat? Rain gear? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1871 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 5:20 pm: |      |
Is it a chocolate company? Hershey's? Cadbury? no Is it devil's food cake? no but a very similar type of thing And now for "rain..." Rainout? way too clever! Raincoat? Rain gear? none of these |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4150 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 5:23 pm: |      |
So was that a "yes" or "no" for rain -> out? Is it a chocolate cake we're looking for? A specific type of cake? A layer cake? Bundt cake? Frosting? Icing? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1873 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 5:33 pm: |      |
So was that a "yes" or "no" for rain -> out? oops, sorry: it was a no, I'm afraid. Something much simpler. Is it a chocolate cake we're looking for? yes, this sort of thing A specific type of cake? a very chocolatey one A layer cake? Bundt cake? Frosting? Icing? none of these |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4155 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 6:34 pm: |      |
Rain: water? Some words that could be used to describe a very chocolatey cake: Rich? Moist? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1875 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 6:48 pm: |      |
Rain: water? Yes! Some words that could be used to describe a very chocolatey cake: Rich? Moist? neither of these |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4162 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 6:54 pm: |      |
So we have: I just can't forget of the dead Lewis One of Spoctor's, perhaps Chocolate water Boom-boom Right? Boom-boom: drum? Volcano? Explosion? Geyser? Going back to "Spoctor's": you said that it has to be SPoctor's, and not, say, BLoctor's, right? The SP - initials? Relevant that the SP is used with the word "doctor's"? Or could another profession work? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1876 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 7:55 pm: |      |
Right? exactly: 2 down, 5 to go Boom-boom: drum? Volcano? Explosion? Geyser? none of these Going back to "Spoctor's": you said that it has to be SPoctor's, and not, say, BLoctor's, right? right The SP - initials? no Relevant that the SP is used with the word "doctor's"? yes Or could another profession work? not exactly, but beware possible lurking FA |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4169 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 8:03 pm: |      |
Is the "boom-boom" a noise? A nickname? There was a baseball player Walter "Boom-Boom" Beck...is he relevant? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1877 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 8:21 pm: |      |
Is the "boom-boom" a noise? yes A nickname? no There was a baseball player Walter "Boom-Boom" Beck...is he relevant? no |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4174 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 8:24 pm: |      |
Boom-boom: thunder? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1878 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 8:52 pm: |      |
Boom-boom: thunder? Yes! |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4179 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 9:34 pm: |      |
Which gives us: I just can't forget of the dead Lewis One of Spoctor's, perhaps Chocolate water thunder Lewis: Carl Lewis? Is it a name we're looking for? A profession? Something related to a person named Lewis? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1879 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 9:48 pm: |      |
Yes: the red type gives us the pieces of the jigsaw Lewis: Carl Lewis? no, remember it's not a person Is it a name we're looking for? but it's certainly the name of something A profession? no Something related to a person named Lewis? no |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4185 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 9:56 pm: |      |
Lewis: University? Drug store? The place in Scotland? (That's what Google suggests, so...) |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1881 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 9:59 pm: |      |
Lewis: University? Drug store? The place in Scotland? (That's what Google suggests, so...) Google has come up trumps! Now, it might be worth finding out a little more about the Isle of Lewis ... |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4188 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:03 pm: |      |
Are any of these aspects of the Isle of Lewis relevant: Location? Economy? Area? Language? Climate? Geography? History? Demographics? Politics? Religion? Education? Culture? Sports? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1882 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:12 pm: |      |
Ah, the dreaded LTPF list! Well ... the treasure you seek is connected with Lewis's culture and history. And a yes to sports too, for svv of 'sport'. Not so much the other ones. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4195 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:24 pm: |      |
That wasn't the LTPF list; that was the Wikipedia list! Is a leisure activity relevant? Is food relevant? Drink? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1884 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:28 pm: |      |
That wasn't the LTPF list; that was the Wikipedia list! well, if you're on the Wikipedia page for Lewis, it will be right there ... something Lewis is famous for, apart from sheep and lousy weather Is a leisure activity relevant? yes Is food relevant? Drink? no to these |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4199 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:33 pm: |      |
Golf? If not that, myths and legends relevant? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1885 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2010 - 10:40 pm: |      |
Golf? I like the idea that golf is a 'sufficiently vague value' of sports ... but no If not that, myths and legends relevant? not really |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4209 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 12:00 am: |      |
Leisure activity: does it involve a physical task? Mental task? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1887 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 9:53 am: |      |
Leisure activity: does it involve a physical task? Mental task? this one |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2860 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 10:40 am: |      |
Is it relevant that Doctor is not only a profession but also a title? Would using other titles help? Synonyms of doctor? Is the idea to replace another title's first letter with SP to form a new word? Is the leisure activity something to with the arts? poetry writing? song writing? altough that might be stretching the SVV of sport. Is the chocolate a biscuit? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1888 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 11:01 am: |      |
Is it relevant that Doctor is not only a profession but also a title? yes indeed Would using other titles help? it would be theoretically possible, but it probably wouldn't help Synonyms of doctor? no Is the idea to replace another title's first letter with SP to form a new word? yes, and you will kick yourself Is the leisure activity something to with the arts? poetry writing? song writing? altough that might be stretching the SVV of sport. none of these Is the chocolate a biscuit? no, no: something much more indulgent |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2863 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 11:25 am: |      |
Ìs the chocolate item a muffin? I'm a bit confused..I asked would using other titles help and you said in theory but not likely then I asked about replacing the first of letter of a title with SP and you said yes. So is it the word title itself? that would give us spitle but's that's not a word spittle has 2 ts. Can you clarify this point without giving away the answer? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2864 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 11:29 am: |      |
Oh hang on. Am I looking for a synonym of title? One of which is Banner which applying the SP and removing the first letter gives us Spanner? Or do I need to calm down and rethink this whole clue? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1889 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 11:37 am: |      |
Ìs the chocolate item a muffin? no ... not indulgent enough! I'm a bit confused..I asked would using other titles help and you said in theory but not likely then I asked about replacing the first of letter of a title with SP and you said yes. Well, his preferred appellation was 'Doctor', but if he were plain Mr, I would have called him Spister. So is it the word title itself? that would give us spitle but's that's not a word spittle has 2 ts. no |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2865 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 11:59 am: |      |
Another oh hang on moment. Are we talking about the name of a famous doctor which when removing the first letter of their name and replacing it with SP gives us a word? I take it my guess of 11.29 was way off. Is the doctor real or fictional? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1890 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 12:11 pm: |      |
Oh hang on. Am I looking for a synonym of title? One of which is Banner which applying the SP and removing the first letter gives us Spanner? er... I think you answered your own question below :-) Or do I need to calm down and rethink this whole clue? well, you do seem to be overthinking it just a little, but you're extremely close Another oh hang on moment. Are we talking about the name of a famous doctor which when removing the first letter of their name and replacing it with SP gives us a word? no I take it my guess of 11.29 was way off. indeed :-) Is the doctor real or fictional? A real person. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2866 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 12:19 pm: |      |
Did they receive an honorary doctorate? are they a real doctor? I can't get this bloke out of my head so i'll ask is it Ian Paisley? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1891 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 12:31 pm: |      |
Did they receive an honorary doctorate? are they a real doctor? Not a medical doctor, but not an honorary doctor, either. A Dr of the academic sort, he completed a doctorate at the rather advanced age of 59, apparently. But that still beats an honorary doctorate from the Bob Jones University, in my book. I can't get this bloke out of my head so i'll ask is it Ian Paisley? Hahah. Actually Ian Paisley would have fit the clue rather better than the fellow in question, for reasons you'll gather later. But he isn't your man. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 1:29 pm: |      |
Chocolate: cupcake? Donut? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 1:41 pm: |      |
Chocolate: cupcake? Donut? still not indulgent enough |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4238 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 1:46 pm: |      |
Did the doctor's name begin with the letters SP? And now I'm craving chocolate so much I can't figure out what the indulgence is...is it an eclair? Chocolate cereal (there's no way that can be right...)? Chocolate milk? Chocolate ice cream? Chocolate milkshake? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2869 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 1:59 pm: |      |
Going on an increasing indulgence scale is it a brownie? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1896 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 2:12 pm: |      |
Did the doctor's name begin with the letters SP? it did indeed And now I'm craving chocolate so much I can't figure out what the indulgence is...is it an eclair? Chocolate cereal (there's no way that can be right...)? Chocolate milk? Chocolate ice cream? this normally features in the best versions, but it's not the answer Chocolate milkshake? no Going on an increasing indulgence scale is it a brownie? brownies are quite restrained: think serious indulgence |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2870 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 2:32 pm: |      |
The legendary Rev William Spooner? So the clue could have read Spoctor Dooner? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2871 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 2:44 pm: |      |
Pressing on with the assumption that Spooner is right the actual clue states that it's one of spooners, perhaps. Does this mean that it's a spoonerism but not one necessarily associated with the man himself? Most of them are apocryphal aren't they? I'll throw out a few examples Shake a tower? flung the hag? Shoving Leopard? fighting a liar? blushing crow? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 2:48 pm: |      |
The legendary Rev William Spooner? So the clue could have read Spoctor Dooner? Yes! Now then ... |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1898 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 2:54 pm: |      |
Pressing on with the assumption that Spooner is right the actual clue states that it's one of spooners, perhaps. Does this mean that it's a spoonerism but not one necessarily associated with the man himself? no: the only spoonerism in the puzzle was my little clue to the Rev himself. Most of them are apocryphal aren't they? yes, they are I'll throw out a few examples Shake a tower? flung the hag? Shoving Leopard? fighting a liar? blushing crow? and my personal favourite: 'you have tasted a whole worm' As I hinted earlier, one of Ian's would fit the bill just as well. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2872 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 3:01 pm: |      |
Flock? congregation? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 3:17 pm: |      |
Flock? congregation? not quite this but ... |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2873 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 3:20 pm: |      |
Something similar? parishioner? worshiper? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 3:22 pm: |      |
Something similar? parishioner? worshiper? well, these might make up the slightly awestruck audience at ... |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2874 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 3:40 pm: |      |
Flipping eck Tucker I feel like a right wally .... Erm Church? service? sermon? Slow as my progress is I'm enjoying this game of lateral tennis. |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1901 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 3:49 pm: |      |
Erm Church? service? sermon? Yes, this one: a sermon. I'd like to think it's a Victorian one with plenty of hellfire and brimstone. On the home straight now. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2875 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 3:53 pm: |      |
Aha I've just been hit by the thunderbolt and have the solution . I'll stay quiet though unless you want me to spoyle. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2876 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 3:58 pm: |      |
Won't have internet for the next few hours. Will be interested to see if this solved by the time I get back to it. While I have the solution I'm puzzled by the I just can't forget clue. |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1902 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 4:01 pm: |      |
Aha I've just been hit by the thunderbolt and have the solution . I'll stay quiet though unless you want me to spoyle. Excellent! Please be my guest. I think the first piece is evil, but I didn't want to make it too easy, now did I? Especially with your knowledge of song titles ... |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4241 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 4:15 pm: |      |
Before this gets KO'd I'll give a recap... I just can't forget of the dead Lewis sermon Chocolate water thunder Hmmm...I'll try and work on this till our Irish friend returns with the answer. Chocolate...it's a dessert, right? Is it a candy bar? (No, that's not nearly indulgent enough....) |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1903 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 4:22 pm: |      |
Hmmm...I'll try and work on this till our Irish friend returns with the answer. Sure, why not? Chocolate...it's a dessert, right? yes Is it a candy bar? (No, that's not nearly indulgent enough....) you're right |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 4:28 pm: |      |
Chocolate mousse? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 4:33 pm: |      |
Chocolate mousse? no |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 7:03 pm: |      |
Chocolate pie? Molten chocolate cake? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 7:44 pm: |      |
Chocolate pie? Molten chocolate cake? no |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 7:51 pm: |      |
Let's try another tack... The leisure activity - are puzzles relevant? Is a newspaper relevant? Books? "I just can't forget..." - is that a quote? A lyric? From a song? Poem? Book? Movie? Article? TV show? Video game? Is the "I" you (as in Woodworm)? Is politics relevant? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1908 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 8:26 pm: |      |
Let's try another tack... this might be the first time we've had a race on the LTPF! you have a couple of hours before Peter gets back to ruin it all :-) The leisure activity - are puzzles relevant? Is a newspaper relevant? Books? no to all "I just can't forget..." - is that a quote? A lyric? From a song? it is the title of a very, very obscure song by an 80s punk band from my part of the world. It was inexcusably mean to include it, but I didn't want to make it too easy. The two-word name of the band can be easily guessed. Poem? Book? Movie? Article? TV show? Video game? & no to rest Is the "I" you (as in Woodworm)? no Is politics relevant? no |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2877 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 10, 2010 - 11:52 pm: |      |
I'm back but am strangely silent ;o) |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 2879 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 12:08 am: |      |
Because even though I consider myself something of an 80's punk expert I'm still baffled :o( |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 4284 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 3:46 am: |      |
80s punk band - are either of the words in the band name: proper names? Nouns? Verbs? Adjectives? Adverbs? Pronouns? Articles? Interjections? Conjunctions? Prepositions? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1909 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 8:28 am: |      |
I'm back but am strangely silent ;o) Because even though I consider myself something of an 80's punk expert I'm still baffled :o( Well, if you google the answer, you will find what you seek, about three hits down. Of course if you google 'I just can't forget' you won't find anything. 80s punk band - are either of the words in the band name: proper names? Nouns? this Verbs? Adjectives? Adverbs? Pronouns? Articles? and this Interjections? Conjunctions? Prepositions? The ____; a phrase that goes before 'of the dead' in the solution Peter surely has it all now: please go ahead |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 1:37 pm: |      |
The Burial? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 5:39 pm: |      |
Ok the five clues equate to the five parts of TS Elliot's poem The Wastelands The five parts are: The Burial of the Dead A Game of Chess The Fire Sermon Death by Water What the Thunder Said Terrificly fiendish clues Woodworm |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 6:29 pm: |      |
Nice job - I never would have figured that out. Should have gotten Death by Chocolate though. And I really ought to read that poem sometime - I only know of it from the A Series of Unfortunate Events books. Very nice puzzle, Woodworm! |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 1910 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 7:13 pm: |      |
Nice work, Peter and Balin *** SPOILER *** The five parts of Eliot's not-so weightless poem, The Waste Land, frivolously clued as follows: I just can't forget ... a song by The Burial Sean ... of the Dead Lewis [the Lewis chessmen] ... A Game of Chess One of Dr Spooner's perhaps ... The Fire Sermon Death by chocolate Rain Water Boom-boom: What the Thunder Said Thanks for all the entertaining questions. Never has pretentious, morbid high modernism been so much fun. Shantih, shantih, shantih :-) PS Balin: if you decide to read it and ever figure out what on earth it means, please let me know. |
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Post Number: 1026 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 3:26 am: |      |
No water. Dry bones and dry throats. Then thunder - a shower of quotes From the Sanskrit and Dante: Da; Damyata; Shantih. I hope you'll make sense of the notes. Wendy Cope |