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I just can't forget Shaun Lewis.

One of Spoctor's, perhaps.

Chocolate rain? Boom-boom!
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Is this puzzle in the style of the game Charades? Is each "sentence" in the puzzle statement a word? or syllable? in the answer?
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Is this puzzle in the style of the game Charades? Yes, but in a rather loose way

Is each "sentence" in the puzzle statement a word? or syllable? in the answer? More or less, yes: each part of the statement is a clue to a word or phrase in the solution. It's not syllabic, though.
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Are the clues real synonyms? or are these cryptic crossword type clues that involve (for example) anagrams, insertions, reversing the order of letters, etc.?
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Are the clues real synonyms? no

or are these cryptic crossword type clues that involve (for example) anagrams, insertions, reversing the order of letters, etc.? They're cryptic hints. No anagrams on this occasion, and no messing with letters. Each word (or phrase) in the clue leads to a word (or phrase) in the solution.
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I= you?
Shaun Lewis= HAM? real person? FYOI?
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Spoctor's - a business? A person (in the possessive)?
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I= you? no
Shaun Lewis= HAM? no real person? no FYOI? no

Spoctor's - a business? no A person (in the possessive)? yes indeed
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Is the solution a song title by any chance?
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Is the solution a song title by any chance? not this time, I'm afraid
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Do we need to figure out what the "one" of Spoctor's is? Is it an object? A person? Is Spoctor a real person? Fictional?
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Just to clarify, are there 5 words in the phrase? represented by 1 I just can't forget Shaun Lewis. 2 One of Spoctor's. 3 Perhaps. 4 Chocolate Rain. 5 Boom Boom ?

Is the way you've spelled Shaun relevant? or could it be Sean Lewis? or Shawn Lewis?

Longshot this but Boom Boom is golfer Freddie Couples' nickname is this OTRT?
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Do we need to figure out what the "one" of Spoctor's is? yes Is it an object? not a tangible object, no A person? no Is Spoctor a real person? very much so Fictional? no


Just to clarify, are there 5 words in the phrase? actually there are nineteen words in the eventual solution, but I'd better not answer too many questions about the eventual solution, because it might spoil the fun of solving the various bits

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1 I just can't forget Shaun Lewis. 2 One of Spoctor's. 3 Perhaps. 4 Chocolate Rain. 5 Boom Boom ? You're right to subdivide the puzzle into chunks. The clues are in logical order, but the subdivisions are different. There are seven clues in all.

Is the way you've spelled Shaun relevant? yes or could it be Sean Lewis? no Shawn Lewis? no, good question

Longshot this but Boom Boom is golfer Freddie Couples' nickname is this OTRT? these sorts of word associations are the key to the puzzle, but this isn't the one
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Ok I'll steer clear of questions regarding the make up of the solution.

Boom Boom - Basil Brush? If not is this the boom boom one would say after a punchline? Does it represent the sound of guns or canons?

Is Spoctor any play on the word Doctor?
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Boom Boom - Basil Brush? I was wondering if you'd think of him! But no If not is this the boom boom one would say after a punchline? noDoes it represent the sound of guns or canons? no

Is Spoctor any play on the word Doctor? yes!
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Shaun - Shaun of the Dead? Spoctor - is that a portmanteau? Maybe "specialized doctor"? "Special doctor"?
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Shaun - Shaun of the Dead? Yes! Well done.

Spoctor - is that a portmanteau? no: not Lewis Carroll but a contemporary of his Maybe "specialized doctor"? "Special doctor"? neither of these
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Is Spoctor Dr. Spock?

Is "chocolate rain" one clue, or two? Does it have anything to do with Charlie And The Chocolate Factory (that's what it made me think of, where they had chocolate rivers and stuff)? Or is the name of a brand of chocolate relevant?
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Is Spoctor Dr. Spock? no

Is "chocolate rain" one clue, or two? good question: it's two clues, back to back

Does it have anything to do with Charlie And The Chocolate Factory (that's what it made me think of, where they had chocolate rivers and stuff)? not this

Or is the name of a brand of chocolate relevant? not a brand, no
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So with "Shaun of the Dead"...is "Shaun Lewis" one clue or two? Is there any further linking we need to do with "Shaun of the Dead", or is "of the dead" part of the answer?
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Isn't Shaun Lewis also a football player? Is part of the answer related to sports?
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So with "Shaun of the Dead"...is "Shaun Lewis" one clue or two? good question: it is two Is there any further linking we need to do with "Shaun of the Dead", or is "of the dead" part of the answer? the latter

Isn't Shaun Lewis also a football player? he may be, but he is a red herring: see above Is part of the answer related to sports? no
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Could the lewis refer to Morse's sidekick?
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Could the lewis refer to Morse's sidekick? Actually, he featured on the Round Britain Quiz this week. One of my favourite programmes. Quite a few of our puzzles seem to be in this vein at the moment. But no, you need a different Lewis altogether.
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Is the "Lewis" a first name? Last name? A real person? Fictional? A person at all? Lewis Carroll? Lewis on The Drew Carey Show? Leona Lewis? Jerry Lewis? Is the spelling necessarily "Lewis"? Or could this be a "Louis"?
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Lewis & Clark?
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Chocolate: Is it a type of chocolate candy?
Is "can't forget" part of the solution? If so: Does it mean to remember? recall? memorable? lost? found?
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Chocolate: A type of chocolate (white, dark, etc.)? Something that can be chocolate flavored (cake, milk, etc.)? a dark brown color?

Rain: in the sense of precipitation? in the sense of a word preceding? or following it? (as in "check", from "rain check")
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Is the "Lewis" a first name? no Last name? no A real person? no Fictional? no A person at all? no Lewis Carroll? Lewis on The Drew Carey Show? Leona Lewis? Jerry Lewis? none of these, I'm afraid Is the spelling necessarily "Lewis"? yes Or could this be a "Louis"? no

Lewis & Clark? no

Chocolate: Is it a type of chocolate candy? it's not a candy bar, but it is a well-known chocolatey confection of sorts

Is "can't forget" part of the solution? it is a clue to a part of the solution, and I have to admit it's the most obscure bit of the entire puzzle

If so: Does it mean to remember? yes, but in a specific context recall? memorable? lost? found?

Chocolate: A type of chocolate (white, dark, etc.)? not really this sort of thing Something that can be chocolate flavored (cake, milk, etc.)? not milk, but cake is certainly OTRT a dark brown color? not just a colour

Rain: in the sense of precipitation? yes in the sense of a word preceding? or following it? yes: simply this (as in "check", from "rain check") but not 'check'
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Is Lewis an animal? He's not that cat that was put under house arrest in the states is he?

So we're looking for 1 word that follows rain? fall? cloud? coat? break? delay?
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Is Lewis an animal? no He's not that cat that was put under house arrest in the states is he? Haha, I'm going to google that. Sounds hilarious. No, nothing so strange.

So we're looking for 1 word that follows rain? yes fall? cloud? coat? break? delay? but not these
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Ah yes, here he is. He doesn't look like he could hurt a fly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ruthlewis.jpg
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"can't forget": Elephants? "rain": Drop?
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"can't forget": Elephants? "rain": Drop? neither of these, I'm afraid
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The funniest part of that story is that someone picked Lewis out from an ID parade.

Is the fact that SP replaces the D in Doctor relevant? Could it be any two letters say BLoctor? If SP is relevant then does that lead us to Horse Racing?

Is the cake a swiss roll?

Is lewis an inanimate object? A machine of sorts?

This is starting to feel like a woubit christmas special. Which is a good thing I might add
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The funniest part of that story is that someone picked Lewis out from an ID parade. well, he is quite distinctive-looking

Is the fact that SP replaces the D in Doctor relevant? yes Could it be any two letters say BLoctor? not at all If SP is relevant then does that lead us to Horse Racing? nowhere near as obscure as this

Is the cake a swiss roll? the famous 'jammed cylinder' of crossword fame? No.

Is lewis an inanimate object? yes, for svv of 'object', though that isn't the word you'd normally use A machine of sorts? Good thinking: I believe there is a hoisting device called a lewis, but it isn't this

This is starting to feel like a woubit christmas special. Which is a good thing I might add Hehe, I take it as a compliment
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So, let me see if I can separate the clues:

"can't forget"
"Shaun" - this has been determined to be "of the dead"
"Lewis"
"Spoctor's"
"Chocolate"
"Rain"
"Boom-boom!"

Is this right?

Chocolate - is Willy Wonka relevant? Is this a type of chocolate? Milk chocolate? Dark chocolate? White chocolate? Hot chocolate? Is the cacao tree relevant?
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So, let me see if I can separate the clues: good plan

"can't forget" I just can't forget
"Shaun" - this has been determined to be "of the dead" yes
"Lewis" yes
"Spoctor's" one of Spoctor's, perhaps
"Chocolate" yes
"Rain" yes
"Boom-boom!" yes

Is this right? yes, but all the words are relevant

Chocolate - is Willy Wonka relevant? no, he isn't Is this a type of chocolate? no, think more along the lines of cakey confections: see above

Milk chocolate? Dark chocolate? White chocolate? potentially all of these, but none of these is the phrase you're seeking

Hot chocolate? No, I don't believe in miracles

Is the cacao tree relevant? no
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OK, then...Ho Hos? Devil Dogs? Ring Dings? Anything made by Hostess? Or just Hostess?
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Oh, and that above all goes with "chocolate".

Rain: storm? Thunder? Lightning? Rain - the person?
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OK, then...Ho Hos? Devil Dogs? Ring Dings? Anything made by Hostess? Or just Hostess? I have never heard of any of these! Must be US products. Drake's Cakes indeed! No. It's something more widely known than these.

Rain: storm? Thunder? Lightning? none of these: just a word that goes after 'rain'

Rain - the person? nope: I'm learning lots of new info here!
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All right then...

Is it a chocolate company? Hershey's? Cadbury? Is it devil's food cake?

And now for "rain..."

Rainout? Raincoat? Rain gear?
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Is it a chocolate company? Hershey's? Cadbury? no Is it devil's food cake? no but a very similar type of thing

And now for "rain..."

Rainout? way too clever! Raincoat? Rain gear? none of these
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So was that a "yes" or "no" for rain -> out?

Is it a chocolate cake we're looking for? A specific type of cake? A layer cake? Bundt cake? Frosting? Icing?
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So was that a "yes" or "no" for rain -> out? oops, sorry: it was a no, I'm afraid. Something much simpler.

Is it a chocolate cake we're looking for? yes, this sort of thing

A specific type of cake? a very chocolatey one A layer cake? Bundt cake? Frosting? Icing? none of these
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Rain: water?

Some words that could be used to describe a very chocolatey cake: Rich? Moist?
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Rain: water? Yes!

Some words that could be used to describe a very chocolatey cake: Rich? Moist? neither of these
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So we have:

I just can't forget
of the dead
Lewis
One of Spoctor's, perhaps
Chocolate
water
Boom-boom

Right?

Boom-boom: drum? Volcano? Explosion? Geyser?

Going back to "Spoctor's": you said that it has to be SPoctor's, and not, say, BLoctor's, right? The SP - initials? Relevant that the SP is used with the word "doctor's"? Or could another profession work?
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Right? exactly: 2 down, 5 to go

Boom-boom: drum? Volcano? Explosion? Geyser? none of these

Going back to "Spoctor's": you said that it has to be SPoctor's, and not, say, BLoctor's, right? right The SP - initials? no Relevant that the SP is used with the word "doctor's"? yes Or could another profession work? not exactly, but beware possible lurking FA
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Is the "boom-boom" a noise? A nickname? There was a baseball player Walter "Boom-Boom" Beck...is he relevant?
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Is the "boom-boom" a noise? yes A nickname? no There was a baseball player Walter "Boom-Boom" Beck...is he relevant? no
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Boom-boom: thunder?
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Boom-boom: thunder? Yes!
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Which gives us:

I just can't forget
of the dead
Lewis
One of Spoctor's, perhaps
Chocolate
water
thunder


Lewis: Carl Lewis? Is it a name we're looking for? A profession? Something related to a person named Lewis?
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Yes: the red type gives us the pieces of the jigsaw

Lewis: Carl Lewis? no, remember it's not a person Is it a name we're looking for? but it's certainly the name of something A profession? no Something related to a person named Lewis? no
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Lewis: University? Drug store? The place in Scotland? (That's what Google suggests, so...)
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Lewis: University? Drug store? The place in Scotland? (That's what Google suggests, so...) Google has come up trumps! Now, it might be worth finding out a little more about the Isle of Lewis ...
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Are any of these aspects of the Isle of Lewis relevant:

Location?
Economy?
Area?
Language?
Climate?
Geography?
History?
Demographics?
Politics?
Religion?
Education?
Culture?
Sports?
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Ah, the dreaded LTPF list! Well ... the treasure you seek is connected with Lewis's culture and history. And a yes to sports too, for svv of 'sport'. Not so much the other ones.
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That wasn't the LTPF list; that was the Wikipedia list!

Is a leisure activity relevant? Is food relevant? Drink?
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That wasn't the LTPF list; that was the Wikipedia list! well, if you're on the Wikipedia page for Lewis, it will be right there ... something Lewis is famous for, apart from sheep and lousy weather

Is a leisure activity relevant? yes Is food relevant? Drink? no to these
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Golf? If not that, myths and legends relevant?
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Golf? I like the idea that golf is a 'sufficiently vague value' of sports ... but no If not that, myths and legends relevant? not really
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Leisure activity: does it involve a physical task? Mental task?
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Leisure activity: does it involve a physical task? Mental task? this one
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Is it relevant that Doctor is not only a profession but also a title? Would using other titles help? Synonyms of doctor? Is the idea to replace another title's first letter with SP to form a new word?

Is the leisure activity something to with the arts? poetry writing? song writing? altough that might be stretching the SVV of sport.

Is the chocolate a biscuit?
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Is it relevant that Doctor is not only a profession but also a title? yes indeed Would using other titles help? it would be theoretically possible, but it probably wouldn't help Synonyms of doctor? no Is the idea to replace another title's first letter with SP to form a new word? yes, and you will kick yourself

Is the leisure activity something to with the arts? poetry writing? song writing? altough that might be stretching the SVV of sport. none of these

Is the chocolate a biscuit? no, no: something much more indulgent
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Ěs the chocolate item a muffin?

I'm a bit confused..I asked would using other titles help and you said in theory but not likely then I asked about replacing the first of letter of a title with SP and you said yes.

So is it the word title itself? that would give us spitle but's that's not a word spittle has 2 ts.

Can you clarify this point without giving away the answer?
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Oh hang on. Am I looking for a synonym of title? One of which is Banner which applying the SP and removing the first letter gives us Spanner?

Or do I need to calm down and rethink this whole clue?
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Ěs the chocolate item a muffin? no ... not indulgent enough!

I'm a bit confused..I asked would using other titles help and you said in theory but not likely then I asked about replacing the first of letter of a title with SP and you said yes. Well, his preferred appellation was 'Doctor', but if he were plain Mr, I would have called him Spister.

So is it the word title itself? that would give us spitle but's that's not a word spittle has 2 ts. no
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Another oh hang on moment. Are we talking about the name of a famous doctor which when removing the first letter of their name and replacing it with SP gives us a word?

I take it my guess of 11.29 was way off.

Is the doctor real or fictional?
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Oh hang on. Am I looking for a synonym of title? One of which is Banner which applying the SP and removing the first letter gives us Spanner? er... I think you answered your own question below :-)

Or do I need to calm down and rethink this whole clue? well, you do seem to be overthinking it just a little, but you're extremely close

Another oh hang on moment. Are we talking about the name of a famous doctor which when removing the first letter of their name and replacing it with SP gives us a word? no

I take it my guess of 11.29 was way off. indeed :-)

Is the doctor real or fictional? A real person.
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Did they receive an honorary doctorate? are they a real doctor?

I can't get this bloke out of my head so i'll ask is it Ian Paisley?
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Did they receive an honorary doctorate? are they a real doctor? Not a medical doctor, but not an honorary doctor, either. A Dr of the academic sort, he completed a doctorate at the rather advanced age of 59, apparently. But that still beats an honorary doctorate from the Bob Jones University, in my book.

I can't get this bloke out of my head so i'll ask is it Ian Paisley? Hahah. Actually Ian Paisley would have fit the clue rather better than the fellow in question, for reasons you'll gather later. But he isn't your man.
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Chocolate: cupcake? Donut?
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Chocolate: cupcake? Donut? still not indulgent enough
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Did the doctor's name begin with the letters SP?

And now I'm craving chocolate so much I can't figure out what the indulgence is...is it an eclair? Chocolate cereal (there's no way that can be right...)? Chocolate milk? Chocolate ice cream? Chocolate milkshake?
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Going on an increasing indulgence scale is it a brownie?
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Did the doctor's name begin with the letters SP? it did indeed

And now I'm craving chocolate so much I can't figure out what the indulgence is...is it an eclair? Chocolate cereal (there's no way that can be right...)? Chocolate milk? Chocolate ice cream? this normally features in the best versions, but it's not the answer Chocolate milkshake? no

Going on an increasing indulgence scale is it a brownie? brownies are quite restrained: think serious indulgence
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The legendary Rev William Spooner? So the clue could have read Spoctor Dooner?
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Pressing on with the assumption that Spooner is right the actual clue states that it's one of spooners, perhaps.

Does this mean that it's a spoonerism but not one necessarily associated with the man himself? Most of them are apocryphal aren't they? I'll throw out a few examples

Shake a tower?
flung the hag?
Shoving Leopard?
fighting a liar?
blushing crow?
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The legendary Rev William Spooner? So the clue could have read Spoctor Dooner? Yes! Now then ...
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Pressing on with the assumption that Spooner is right the actual clue states that it's one of spooners, perhaps.

Does this mean that it's a spoonerism but not one necessarily associated with the man himself? no: the only spoonerism in the puzzle was my little clue to the Rev himself.

Most of them are apocryphal aren't they? yes, they are I'll throw out a few examples

Shake a tower?
flung the hag?
Shoving Leopard?
fighting a liar?
blushing crow?

and my personal favourite: 'you have tasted a whole worm'

As I hinted earlier, one of Ian's would fit the bill just as well.
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Flock? congregation?
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Flock? congregation? not quite this but ...
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Something similar? parishioner? worshiper?
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Something similar? parishioner? worshiper? well, these might make up the slightly awestruck audience at ...
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Flipping eck Tucker I feel like a right wally ....

Erm Church? service? sermon?

Slow as my progress is I'm enjoying this game of lateral tennis.
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Erm Church? service? sermon? Yes, this one: a sermon. I'd like to think it's a Victorian one with plenty of hellfire and brimstone. On the home straight now.
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Aha I've just been hit by the thunderbolt and have the solution . I'll stay quiet though unless you want me to spoyle.
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Won't have internet for the next few hours. Will be interested to see if this solved by the time I get back to it. While I have the solution I'm puzzled by the I just can't forget clue.
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Aha I've just been hit by the thunderbolt and have the solution . I'll stay quiet though unless you want me to spoyle. Excellent! Please be my guest. I think the first piece is evil, but I didn't want to make it too easy, now did I? Especially with your knowledge of song titles ...
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Before this gets KO'd I'll give a recap...

I just can't forget
of the dead
Lewis
sermon
Chocolate
water
thunder


Hmmm...I'll try and work on this till our Irish friend returns with the answer.

Chocolate...it's a dessert, right? Is it a candy bar? (No, that's not nearly indulgent enough....)
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Hmmm...I'll try and work on this till our Irish friend returns with the answer. Sure, why not?

Chocolate...it's a dessert, right? yes Is it a candy bar? (No, that's not nearly indulgent enough....) you're right
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Chocolate mousse?
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Chocolate mousse? no
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Chocolate pie? Molten chocolate cake?
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Chocolate pie? Molten chocolate cake? no
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Let's try another tack...

The leisure activity - are puzzles relevant? Is a newspaper relevant? Books?

"I just can't forget..." - is that a quote? A lyric? From a song? Poem? Book? Movie? Article? TV show? Video game? Is the "I" you (as in Woodworm)? Is politics relevant?
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Let's try another tack... this might be the first time we've had a race on the LTPF! you have a couple of hours before Peter gets back to ruin it all :-)

The leisure activity - are puzzles relevant? Is a newspaper relevant? Books? no to all

"I just can't forget..." - is that a quote? A lyric? From a song? it is the title of a very, very obscure song by an 80s punk band from my part of the world. It was inexcusably mean to include it, but I didn't want to make it too easy. The two-word name of the band can be easily guessed. Poem? Book? Movie? Article? TV show? Video game? & no to rest Is the "I" you (as in Woodworm)? no Is politics relevant? no
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I'm back but am strangely silent ;o)
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Because even though I consider myself something of an 80's punk expert I'm still baffled :o(
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80s punk band - are either of the words in the band name: proper names? Nouns? Verbs? Adjectives? Adverbs? Pronouns? Articles? Interjections? Conjunctions? Prepositions?
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I'm back but am strangely silent ;o)

Because even though I consider myself something of an 80's punk expert I'm still baffled :o(

Well, if you google the answer, you will find what you seek, about three hits down. Of course if you google 'I just can't forget' you won't find anything.

80s punk band - are either of the words in the band name: proper names? Nouns? this Verbs? Adjectives? Adverbs? Pronouns? Articles? and this Interjections? Conjunctions? Prepositions? The ____; a phrase that goes before 'of the dead' in the solution

Peter surely has it all now: please go ahead
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The Burial?
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Ok the five clues equate to the five parts of TS Elliot's poem The Wastelands

The five parts are:

The Burial of the Dead
A Game of Chess
The Fire Sermon
Death by Water
What the Thunder Said

Terrificly fiendish clues Woodworm
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Nice job - I never would have figured that out. Should have gotten Death by Chocolate though. And I really ought to read that poem sometime - I only know of it from the A Series of Unfortunate Events books.

Very nice puzzle, Woodworm!
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Nice work, Peter and Balin

*** SPOILER ***

The five parts of Eliot's not-so weightless poem, The Waste Land, frivolously clued as follows:


I just can't forget ... a song by The Burial

Sean ... of the Dead

Lewis [the Lewis chessmen] ... A Game of Chess

One of Dr Spooner's perhaps ... The Fire Sermon

Death by chocolate

Rain Water

Boom-boom: What the Thunder Said

Thanks for all the entertaining questions. Never has pretentious, morbid high modernism been so much fun.

Shantih, shantih, shantih :-)


PS Balin: if you decide to read it and ever figure out what on earth it means, please let me know.
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No water. Dry bones and dry throats.
Then thunder - a shower of quotes
From the Sanskrit and Dante:
Da; Damyata; Shantih.
I hope you'll make sense of the notes.


Wendy Cope

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