| Author | Message | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 469 Registered: 9-2008 |
What we have here is a failure to communicate. (I expect some good-natured debates when this is done!) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4026 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ooh, debates! Count me in. Straight to the obvious: it doesn't involve Cool Hand Luke, does it? Assuming no, are any people involved? Just one? More? HAM? HAF? LTPF relevant? Is this a true story? FYOI? FSEI? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 470 Registered: 9-2008 |
Straight to the obvious: it doesn't involve Cool Hand Luke, does it? Alas, no. Assuming no, are any people involved? Just one? More? yes HAM? yes... HAF?...and yes. LTPF relevant? yes Is this a true story? yes -svv "story" FYOI? yes FSEI? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4027 Registered: 4-2010 |
So this is partially true and partially FYOI, correct? Are certain users relevant? Any users? Active puzzles? Solved puzzles? The chatroom? Chatroom archives? Recently solved puzzles? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 472 Registered: 9-2008 |
So this is partially true and partially FYOI, correct? Oh, that IS confusing...so I am changing my answer. Sorry! FYOI? No, tiny -ish! Are certain users relevant? Any users? yes - to a certain extent. Active puzzles? Solved puzzles? The chatroom? Chatroom archives? Recently solved puzzles? No to rest. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4028 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a made-up user relevant? A made-up username? Any actual users relevant? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 473 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is a made-up user relevant? A made-up username? No. We are a crazy bunch, but very much real! Any actual users relevant? No one in particular. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4031 Registered: 4-2010 |
Moderators relevant? New members (even though some of us have thousands of posts and/or have been around for several years)? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 475 Registered: 9-2008 |
Moderators relevant? New members (even though some of us have thousands of posts and/or have been around for several years)?No more relevant than any other. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4033 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are all users equally relevant? Are our profiles relevant? Anything mentioned in the sidebar relevant? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 477 Registered: 9-2008 |
Are all users equally relevant? yes. Are our profiles relevant? Anything mentioned in the sidebar relevant? No. Try a different line of questioning. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4034 Registered: 4-2010 |
Oh! Is non-LTPF communication relevant? E.g. being able to actually meet LTPF members in person (which would be awesome)? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2842 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is lateral limbo relevant? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 478 Registered: 9-2008 |
Balin Oh! Is non-LTPF communication relevant? Yes-ish. This is not a topic about the LTPF itself - but the people... E.g. being able to actually meet LTPF members in person (which would be awesome)? Not this...but that would be awesome! Peter365 Is lateral limbo relevant? No. But you are one of the people that I expect would be on the other side of the debate. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2845 Registered: 1-2007 |
Now I'm intrigued. Would you expect that I'd be on the other side of the debate(opposing side to you I'm assuming) because of a particular puzzle I've set? chartoom post? my nationality? the fact that I'm male? Am of a certain age? my interests ? hobbies? taste in music? films? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2846 Registered: 1-2007 |
Just another thought although it's probably wrong... Are you lobbying to switch the post times away from GMT? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4048 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the LTPF Facebook page relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4049 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the LTPF Facebook page relevant? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2849 Registered: 1-2007 |
Darn it that's the answer I bet. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3565 Registered: 5-2003 |
There's an LTPF Facebook page? Is the confusion of a nearly completed but not-quite-there puzzle relevant? Where the players almost have an answer but just haven't got it yet, thus frustrating the puzzle-setter who thinks the answer is obvious from here? (I get that a lot.} | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4058 Registered: 4-2010 |
Peter: I don't know...I like your idea about the post times. And Jenburdoo...yes, there's an LTPF Facebook page. I found it by going through old chatroom archives, but I think you can get there through searching "lateral puzzles" on Facebook, and finding the one where Paul Sloane is Admin. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 479 Registered: 9-2008 |
Peter365 Would you expect that I'd be on the other side of the debate(opposing side to you I'm assuming) because of a particular puzzle I've set? chartoom post? my nationality? yes-ish the fact that I'm male? Am of a certain age? my interests ? hobbies? taste in music? films? no to rest. Just another thought although it's probably wrong... Are you lobbying to switch the post times away from GMT? nope Balin Is the LTPF Facebook page relevant? no - I had forgotten about that! Jenburdoo Is the confusion of a nearly completed but not-quite-there puzzle relevant? Where the players almost have an answer but just haven't got it yet, thus frustrating the puzzle-setter who thinks the answer is obvious from here? (I get that a lot.} Alas, no - but if continue down this path... | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 480 Registered: 9-2008 |
Hint: there is one main reason that LTPF is relevant. This could easily apply to another group that has the same attributes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4069 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant that this is an international forum? Would this work with other international forums? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 481 Registered: 9-2008 |
Relevant that this is an international forum? yes Would this work with other international forums? very likely | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1235 Registered: 11-2003 |
Time zones relevant? Language? Different uses of the same word depending on where you're from? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 483 Registered: 9-2008 |
Time zones relevant? No Language?no-ish Different uses of the same word depending on where you're from? yes | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1236 Registered: 11-2003 |
Do we have to find a spesific word? or words? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 485 Registered: 9-2008 |
Do we have to find a spesific word? or words? yes, please. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1237 Registered: 11-2003 |
We are talking the English language here, right? Is it one word? more than one? Is the word/words kind of naughty in one accent and not in other accents? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 486 Registered: 9-2008 |
We are talking the English language here, right? Yes. Is it one word? more than one? This. Is the word/words kind of naughty in one accent and not in other accents? Hehe - that WOULD make a good puzzle! But no. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4081 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are idioms relevant? Different spellings? Censorship? Is cricket (the sport) relevant? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 488 Registered: 9-2008 |
Are idioms relevant? No. It is very literal. Different spellings? No Censorship? No Is cricket (the sport) relevant? No...nor can I make sense of it. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4089 Registered: 4-2010 |
More than one word - is it a phrase? A sentence? Paragraph? Page? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 490 Registered: 9-2008 |
More than one word - is it a phrase? yes, technically A sentence? Paragraph? Page? no to the rest. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4100 Registered: 4-2010 |
A phrase...is it just two words? Three? Four? Five? More? [LTPF list of integers]? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2855 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is it one of our many acronyms ? SVV? DOYD? FYOI? OTRT? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 494 Registered: 9-2008 |
Balin A phrase...is it just two words? Three? Four? Five? More? [LTPF list of integers]? The phrase is only 2 words - but there are three words to discover. Peter365 Is it one of our many acronyms ? SVV? DOYD? FYOI? OTRT? No. Wrong forest :-) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4114 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are numbers involved? Names? Is one of the usernames involved? Is Admin relevant? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 495 Registered: 9-2008 |
Are numbers involved? Names? Is one of the usernames involved? Is Admin relevant? No to all. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1238 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is this a phrase that is used in only one country? If so, in Europe? America? Africa? Asia? Pacific? And is English the first language spoken in that country? or the second? third? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 499 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is this a phrase that is used in only one country? Not just one country...explore... If so, in Europe? relevant America? relevant Africa? Asia? Pacific? less relevant in these others - though possible. And is English the first language spoken in that country? Yes or the second? third? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4205 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would this turn into a British-American debate? European-American? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 501 Registered: 9-2008 |
Would this turn into a British-American debate? It would indeed. Good job! European-American? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4207 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is this about the spelling of certain words? i.e. Color/Colour? Favorite/Favourite? Is an additional "u" relevant? (Or a dropped "u", from the British perspective.) | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 503 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is this about the spelling of certain words? i.e. Color/Colour? Favorite/Favourite? Is an additional "u" relevant? (Or a dropped "u", from the British perspective.) None of these. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4211 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a cultural difference between Britain and America relevant? Are time zones relevant? Could you perchance recap? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 506 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is a cultural difference between Britain and America relevant? yope Are time zones relevant? No Could you perchance recap?I am so glad you asked. I thought of a fun story based on one of your previous posts. The members of the LTPF finally had convention - of sorts - so that they could meet face-to-face. All had a fine time and wanted to meet again next year. It was a very well-planned event: The morning was spent in a large hall where Admin shared leadership principles and explained the meaning of life. (Alas, we were all heartbroken to learn that it is not "42"!) Then after a delicious lunch, Jenburdoo drew legendary military battle movements; woubit shared the details of his latest adventure; and Woodworm painstakenly described the best strategies in cricket (...even still, the Americans didn't have a clue what he was talking about!). Later in the day, Lynne quietly pulls Kaygee aside and said, "Dear girl, please run out and get us some lovely ___1___ __2____. Hurry along and don't be slow about it." Peter365 overhears this conversation, and being the nice guy, he adds, "Now, Kaygee, you do know that ___2___ are called ___3___ in America, right?" "Oh yes, I've read many an English novel. I knew that one," Kaygee responds. Balin, ever the adventurer, had been out exploring the city the day before. So knowing just where to go, he volunteered to drive. When they returned, Kaygee proudly held out the requested item, only to have Lynne turn up her nose in disgust. "Why on earth did you buy THAT?", she cried. Kaygee can only stand there thinking, "Huh?" So - what did Lynne ask for? And what did Kaygee buy? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4221 Registered: 4-2010 |
LOVE the story =D Is the item purchased a food item? Clothing? Electronic? Used for sports? Entertainment? Is it something you read? Same questions, only for "item asked for"? Does the story take place in America? England? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 507 Registered: 9-2008 |
LOVE the story =D Thanks. It was fun to write. Is the item purchased a food item? ThisClothing? Electronic? Used for sports? Entertainment? Is it something you read? No to the rest. Same questions, only for "item asked for"? Same answer. Good questions! Does the story take place in America? England? Irr. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4226 Registered: 4-2010 |
The first thing that comes to my mind is chips/crisps...is that it? I know about a handful of British/American translations - wracking my brains here... | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 509 Registered: 9-2008 |
The first thing that comes to my mind is chips/crisps...is that it? nope | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2861 Registered: 1-2007 |
Hee Hee that story is really cool and yes I am a nice guy (i think) Did Lynne request IceCream and Jelly and you bought Ice Cream & Jam? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 513 Registered: 9-2008 |
Hee Hee that story is really cool and yes I am a nice guy (i think) Oh, I am quite sure. Did Lynne request IceCream and Jelly and you bought Ice Cream & Jam? No. I didn't know about that one. Yup, that's another request that I would have failed! | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2867 Registered: 1-2007 |
Can I just clarify that in the story even though I explained the difference in terminology to you you still bought the wrong item? Was there something else apart from the naming difference that caused you trouble? In the story did you buy the item? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2868 Registered: 1-2007 |
For the second time today I am going to ask is it a biscuit (cookie)? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 514 Registered: 9-2008 |
Can I just clarify that in the story even though I explained the difference in terminology to you you still bought the wrong item? Yes Was there something else apart from the naming difference that caused you trouble? yes In the story did you buy the item? Yes For the second time today I am going to ask is it a biscuit (cookie)? Yope - right track! | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1906 Registered: 3-2006 |
Cookies and cream? Muffins? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 515 Registered: 9-2008 |
Cookies and cream? Muffins? No to all. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1254 Registered: 11-2003 |
Tea relevant? the fact that it is used for both a meal as well as the drink? So you were meant to buy a food item and bought a food item, just not the right one? Was there a major difference in the type of food? Like you bought a vegetable while Lynne was asking for a sweet? Or were they both in the same category food? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 516 Registered: 9-2008 |
Tea relevant? No, not the beverage anyway. the fact that it is used for both a meal as well as the drink? Not this. So you were meant to buy a food item and bought a food item, just not the right one? Yes, that's right. Was there a major difference in the type of food? no and yes...it would certainly cause me to go back to the store to purchase the correct item. Like you bought a vegetable while Lynne was asking for a sweet? Not this... Or were they both in the same category food? ...but this. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4283 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were they both fruits? Vegetables? Dairy products? Cheese? Desserts? Chocolates? Breads? Pastas? Grains? Frozen foods? Sweets? Meats? Fish? Chicken? Beef? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 517 Registered: 9-2008 |
Were they both fruits? no Vegetables? no Dairy products? no Cheese? no-ish Desserts? no Chocolates? no Breads? yope Pastas? no Grains? Yes-ish Frozen foods? Sweets? Meats? Fish? Chicken? Beef? No to the rest. Hint: there was a significant "yope" several posts back. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1257 Registered: 11-2003 |
I assume you refer to Peter's question about biscuit/cookies? Bread? Cakes? Sandwich? Wraps? Any other similare thing made from flour? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 518 Registered: 9-2008 |
I assume you refer to Peter's question about biscuit/cookies? Indeed! Bread? Cakes? Sandwich? Wraps? No to these Any other similare thing made from flour? yes to yes-ish. It is made with flour. But watch for FA. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1263 Registered: 11-2003 |
Is the texture solid? liquid? (same question for both items) | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 519 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the texture solid? Yes, for both liquid? (same question for both items) | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1264 Registered: 11-2003 |
Breakfast cereals relevant? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 520 Registered: 9-2008 |
Breakfast cereals relevant? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4324 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it flour itself? A type of flour? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 521 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is it flour itself? A type of flour? no - wrong track. Hint: Don't let my one answer to Peter's two part question confuse you. The "yope" really does mean "yes...and...no" | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4327 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is one of them a biscuit? A cookie? Biscuits as pastry vs. biscuits as cookie? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 526 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is one of them a biscuit? Yes, good! A cookie? No Biscuits as pastry vs. biscuits as cookie? Neither. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4333 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the item you bought a biscuit (pastry)? So Lynne asked for...a scone? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 529 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the item you bought a biscuit (pastry)? biscuit-yes, pastry - no So Lynne asked for...a scone? No Keep going... | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1268 Registered: 11-2003 |
Did Lynne ask for pastry? bun? Danish? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 531 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did Lynne ask for pastry? bun? Danish? Nothing like these. Keep going...there is another word the Americans use instead of buscuit. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2881 Registered: 1-2007 |
Crackers? Did Lynne ask for Crackers & Cheese? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 537 Registered: 9-2008 |
Crackers? YES! Did Lynne ask for Crackers & Cheese? yope...but...almost there! Recap: Lynne asked for "_______ biscuits". Knowing that she really wanted crackers, Kaygee came back with "_______ crackers". (Same word!) Alas, these items are not the same thing! One more connection and we are done. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4355 Registered: 4-2010 |
Nut crackers? Animal crackers? Saltine crackers? Ritz crackers? Oyster crackers? Cheese and crackers? Peanut butter crackers? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 539 Registered: 9-2008 |
I marked the types of crackers(biscuits) that Lynne would have accepted - but none of these are what were actually purchased. Nut crackers? Animal crackers? Saltine crackers? perhaps, though boring. Ritz crackers? very likely. Oyster crackers? Cheese and crackers? Peanut butter crackers? No to rest - though I can't identify what a nut cracker is - other than a ballet or funny Christmas toy. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 540 Registered: 9-2008 |
Oh wait! I get the joke, now. Funny Balin! | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2882 Registered: 1-2007 |
Christmas Crackers? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 542 Registered: 9-2008 |
Christmas Crackers? No. Hint: You were close on your last post. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2883 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is what Lynne asked for a Water Biscuit? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1912 Registered: 3-2006 |
Peter has virtually solved it, surely? 'Cheese biscuits' in the UK don't have cheese in them (you put cheese on them). Cheese crackers have cheese in them. Is that it? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 543 Registered: 9-2008 |
Peter365 Is what Lynne asked for a Water Biscuit? Not the words I was looking for...see below. Woodworm Peter has virtually solved it, surely? 'Cheese biscuits' in the UK don't have cheese in them (you put cheese on them). Cheese crackers have cheese in them. Is that it? Yes indeed! Good Job! Spoiler: If an American English speaker is sent to buy "Cheese Biscuits" or "Cheese Crackers", the results would not be something suitable to hold sliced cheeses. When Kaygee (in the story) purchased the cheese crackers, she came back with a package of tiny, orange-colored crackers - maybe even fish-shaped! Those products are generally flavored with an orange powder that some would argue is not really "cheese". Thanks for playing. I will bring biscuits to the next convention ;-) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4376 Registered: 4-2010 |
Nice one! Although, you left out a few details of the convention - for instance, the heated Scrabble game, in which Woodworm delivered a trouncing, and Peter365's enrapturing us with his delivery of several Irish folk songs. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2884 Registered: 1-2007 |
My demonstration of the correct procedure for pulling pints of guinness was also very well received. Well done Kaygee. Neat idea to have us as central characters in a puzzle. That could start a trend | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 546 Registered: 9-2008 |
Oo-o-o. I like it! And...setting a puzzle with the "LTPF Convention" as the location and time? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3670 Registered: 5-2003 |
Fantastic! How many people did I bore to sleep with my milhist lecture? |
