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Biograd (Biograd)
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When I was a little kid, at one time I had a scrund about history. I don't know when I was cured of it, but certainly before the relevant subject was even briefly discussed in school. What was it?

May go quickly, but an additional challenge is to guess why I chose the title I did.
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Oh, and I'm curious how many people remember ever having this scrund. I'd think it has to be quite common.
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History in general? A spesific era?
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Is this about a specific country? Are wars relevant? Politics?
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9/11 relevant?
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History in general?No A spesific era?Yes

Is this about a specific country?No Are wars relevant?No Politics?Noish

9/11 relevant?No
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Politics-ish...is a king relevant? The era - prehistoric? Is a system of government relevant? Does the era cover one century? More? Less? Is the era in [LTPF list of centuries]?
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Politics-ish...is a king relevant? No--the "ish" is because the period is primarily defined by what was occurring politically, as opposed to (for example) a period of art The era - prehistoric? No Is a system of government relevant? No Does the era cover one century? More? This Less? Is the era in [LTPF list of centuries]? 5th through 15th
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5th to 15th century relevant ... fall of Rome to fall of Constantinople? 476 to 1453 ... worth exploring or am I very much OTWT?
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Anything to do with Presidents or elections?
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5th to 15th century relevant ... fall of Rome to fall of Constantinople? 476 to 1453 ... worth exploring or am I very much OTWT? You're OTRT in that these are probably the most commonly cited start and end dates for the period in question. You may be OTWT in that by the time I actually had learned the dates for the period (or of the former existence of Constantinople), I would have surely lost the scrund.

Anything to do with Presidents or elections? Not the scrund (It's not like they were electing Presidents back in the 5th century!). It does have relevance to the title, but you're very unlikely to guess it off of that.
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Crusades relevant?
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Crusades relevant? No
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(but as a sidenote, knowing about the Crusades would have probably reinforced my scrund)
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Related to vassalage? Feudalism?
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Related to vassalage? Feudalism? Not to either, aside from the fact that they took place during this time period
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Did you think that something specific happened during this period? That something specific didn't happen? That the history of that period was purely fictional? The '2004' in the title refers to the year 2004? If so, is something relevant that happened in 2004?
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Did you think that something specific happened during this period? Not specific, no That something specific didn't happen? No That the history of that period was purely fictional? No, though I could see a kid thinking this too The '2004' in the title refers to the year 2004? Yes If so, is something relevant that happened in 2004? Yes, though I will say that the title is only relevant as part of a possible joke someone could make in response to hearing about my scrund. There is no real analogy between what happened in 2004 and what I thought about the relevant historical period.
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Is religion relevant? The Catholic church? How much political power they had?
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Did you wrongly estimate the date of a certain event(s)? If so, were you too early? Too late?
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Is religion relevant? The Catholic church? How much political power they had? No to all

Did you wrongly estimate the date of a certain event(s)? No If so, were you too early? Too late?
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Did you think the people in that period had some sort of ability that you later discovered to be incorrect (along the lines of, say, using electricity or being able to fly)?
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Did you think the people in that period had some sort of ability that you later discovered to be incorrect (along the lines of, say, using electricity or being able to fly)? No
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Is war relevant? A specific war? A series of wars?
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Is war relevant? A specific war? A series of wars? No to all
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You said that you were cured even before discussing the subject in school. If so, were you cured because: somebody told you something relevant? you read something? heard on the radio? seen on TV? Is it worh exploring how you were cured?
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You said that you were cured even before discussing the subject in school. Actually, I kind of take that back. I'm not sure I was cured before the first time it was discussed in school. But certainly by the end of the first lesson in the topic, at the latest If so, were you cured because: somebody told you something relevant? you read something? This, almost definitely heard on the radio? seen on TV? Is it worh exploring how you were cured? I don't remember exactly where I first read the relevant thing. But the fact that reading was involved is worth noting
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Was the thing you read directly related to your scrund? Did the reading address the scrund? Was the scrund related to reading?
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Any famous comic books relevant?
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Did you think that people of that time lacked some sort of ability while in fact they had it (like that they were unable to read or to write for example)? Was the scrund applied also to Antiquity? To post medieval times? Could it be applied?
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Indoor plumbing relevant?
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Was the thing you read directly related to your scrund? Yes, but beware FA Did the reading address the scrund? Purely by accident, in other words the scrund was not directly mentioned Was the scrund related to reading? Yesish, for svv. of "related to reading"

Any famous comic books relevant? No

Did you think that people of that time lacked some sort of ability while in fact they had it (like that they were unable to read or to write for example)? No Was the scrund applied also to Antiquity? To post medieval times? No to both, except as contrasted with the period in between Could it be applied? Don't quite know what you're asking. The scrund may have led me to believe other things, but that's rather irrelevant

I think you are all being way too specific, when my scrund was very general about the time period as a whole. Think along the lines of Nimue's "coma" puzzle (though like with that one, I'd HOPE college students would be way past this one!)
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Indoor plumbing relevant? No
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Did you think a certain country existed at that time? Didn't exist?
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Did you think a certain country existed at that time? Didn't exist? No to both
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Is technology relevant?
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...is medicine relevant? Disease?
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Is technology relevant? No

...is medicine relevant? Disease? No to both
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Did you think they did not have paper in those days? Is paper relevant?
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Did you think they did not have paper in those days? Is paper relevant? No to both
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Is literacy relevant? Did you think that most people in those days could read? Couldn't read? But it was really the opposite?
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Is literacy relevant? No, therefore no to rest as well Did you think that most people in those days could read? Couldn't read? But it was really the opposite?

Hint: The real relevance of reading is that while I very probably lost the scrund by reading something, I could not have acquired it while reading something.
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Is your scrund about the spelling of something? That most word back then were spelled in "fancy" ways? Ended in e's?
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Is your scrund about the spelling of something? Yes, that's most of it That most word back then were spelled in "fancy" ways? No Ended in e's? No
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The spelling of: people's names?
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The spelling of: people's names? No
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The spelling of certain words? Place names?
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The spelling of certain words? A word, yes. What else? Place names? No
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Is the word a [LTPF list of parts of speech]? A title? Is the word still in common use today?
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Is the word a [LTPF list of parts of speech]? Adjective A title? No Is the word still in common use today? Yes, and almost definite FA
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Is the word in English? Another language?
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Is the word in English? This Another language?
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Is the word a color?
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Is it something misheard like you thought there was a period of history called the Dar Cages?
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Is the word a color? No

Is it something misheard like you thought there was a period of history called the Dar Cages? Not exactly this one but VERY OTRT
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Did you mishear something? Misread something?
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Did you mishear something? This. And in the same sort of way as Peter365's example, just not that precise one.
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Did you mishear the name of a place? A city?
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Did you mishear the name of a place? A city? Neither
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The name of a person? An era?
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The name of a person? An era? THIS
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Did you mishear "Middle Ages"? As "Metal Ages"?
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Did you mishear "Middle Ages"? No As "Metal Ages"? So no (but OTRT)
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Did what you misheard include the word "ages"? "Era"? Did you mishear "Era" as "Error"?
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Did what you misheard include the word "ages"? No "Era"? It would have contained a synonym for "era", but whether or not this exact word was used is irr. It wasn't the misheard bit. Did you mishear "Era" as "Error"? So no
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Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 3:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Medieval times"? As "Mid Evil times" or something?
Biograd (Biograd)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 6:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Medieval times"? As "Mid Evil times" or something? Exactly!

I though that the "Medieval period" was the "mid-Evil Period", presumably preceded by something like the "early Evil Period" and followed by something like the "late Evil Period". After all, why did everyone live in castles and fight each other all the time? (or so I thought, from the popular culture image of the period!). I gave no thought to why people suddenly became good and friendly again at the end of the Evil Period, which I guess is unsurprising given that many kids don't question why the "Indians" (who are not from India of course) were just automatically assumed to be the bad guys in certain movies.

Now why did I think someone might jokingly say "more like 2004?" if I told them about this? Should be easy now.
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 12:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

2004 was right in the middle of the Bush years, and the whole bin Laden/Saddam/etc thing was in full swing - this it? Maybe the political debates over the Bush/Kerry election? Or the fact that the Red Sox won the World Series for the first time in 86 years?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

2004 was right in the middle of the Bush years Yes. I was envisioning a particularly annoyed American calling Bush's reign presidency the country's "Evil Period", and joking that the year of his re-election was therefore the "mid Evil Period".

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Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 9:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice one! I'm sure bumper sticker manufacturers (and a whole lot of other people) agree with your assessment.

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