| Author | Message | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4597 Registered: 4-2010 |
In this case, Proverbs was wrong! Proverbs = the book of the Bible, and no, this is not intended to be a commentary or debate on religion. It's actually a pretty silly puzzle. | ||
| La_sparky (La_sparky)
New member Username: La_sparky Post Number: 174 Registered: 10-2008 |
particular verse relevant? if so, is it worth asking through on chapter numbers? or should we go about figuring out a different way? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4616 Registered: 4-2010 |
particular verse relevant? Yes if so, is it worth asking through on chapter numbers? Yope or should we go about figuring out a different way? I'll make it the easiest way and tell you - Proverbs 17:8. | ||
| La_sparky (La_sparky)
New member Username: La_sparky Post Number: 176 Registered: 10-2008 |
Proverbs 17:8-A bribe is a charm to the one who gives it; wherever he turns, he succeeds hmm, a particular bribe relevant? did you try to bribe someone? someone try to bribe you? FYOI? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4632 Registered: 4-2010 |
hmm, a particular bribe relevant? Yes, but recall - this is a slightly silly puzzle. did you try to bribe someone? someone try to bribe you? This FYOI? no, true story | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 227 Registered: 9-2009 |
So, did someone have tried to bribe you, but it turned out that this was a bad decision for the briber? Did the bribe involve money? Other material advantage? Was the 'bribe' what most of us will call a criminal offence, or was more of a funny thing ('If you let me do it, I'll give you my sandwich')? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4701 Registered: 4-2010 |
So, did someone have tried to bribe you, Yes but it turned out that this was a bad decision for the briber? Noish Did the bribe involve money? No Other material advantage? Material, yes. Advantage, no. Was the 'bribe' what most of us will call a criminal offence, or was more of a funny thing ('If you let me do it, I'll give you my sandwich')? More of a funny thing, but if it involved money, it likely would have been a criminal offense. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4702 Registered: 4-2010 |
Already a BLOOPER: "So, did someone have tried to bribe you" should be a Yes (tiny ish). | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3669 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was money offered? Something else? Was the briber a friend? relation? acquaintance? enemy? HAM? Relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4705 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was money offered? No Something else? Yes Was the briber a friend? relation? acquaintance? enemy? None of these HAM? H, my age, F Relevant? That she is my age, yes. The puzzle would work just fine if the briber were male. Oh, and this is a slightly silly scenario. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3677 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is she a classmate? Coworker? Is what was offered of monetary value? Tangible? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 230 Registered: 9-2009 |
Can we call her Lucy? If so, did Lucy expect that,in exchange for the 'bribe' you would: do something for her? do something she had to do? refrain from doing something? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4727 Registered: 4-2010 |
Meant to post this about 11 hours ago, but either my computer or the server was having problems, and I got busy with other things. Sorry. Is she a classmate? Yes, but I don't know her personally Coworker? So no Is what was offered of monetary value? Not really Tangible? Yes Can we call her Lucy? Sure If so, did Lucy expect that,in exchange for the 'bribe' you would: do something for her? This, svv of "for." And I'm not sure she'd expect it, but she'd certainly hope for it. do something she had to do? refrain from doing something? No to these | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 238 Registered: 9-2009 |
The item that Lucy gave you: were you expected to use it for that particular action, or was it unrelated? Can we buy the object at a regular store or was it a unique item (a drawing made by herself, for example)? By simply handing you the item, was it clear to you that a 'bribe' was intended, or there were words spoken? The action that she hoped you would do, was it: illegal? harmful to you? about to put you in an awkward position? Did you do it? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4747 Registered: 4-2010 |
The item that Lucy gave you: were you expected to use it for that particular action, or was it unrelated? It was unrelated Can we buy the object at a regular store This or was it a unique item (a drawing made by herself, for example)? By simply handing you the item, FA was it clear to you that a 'bribe' was intended, Yes or there were words spoken? No The action that she hoped you would do, was it: illegal? Not on its own, but if a bribe (as in, with money) had been involved, it would have been. harmful to you? about to put you in an awkward position? Neither Did you do it? Noish | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 243 Registered: 9-2009 |
Discovering what the object was exactly would lead us more quickly to the solution? If so, its size was smaller than a golf ball? a soccer ball? a TV set? a chair? Was it an object of everyday use? Was it writing tool? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4752 Registered: 4-2010 |
Discovering what the object was exactly would lead us more quickly to the solution? Possibly, but not likely If so, its size was smaller than a golf ball? a soccer ball? a TV set? a chair? Smaller than all of these Was it an object of everyday use? Yesish Was it writing tool? No | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 246 Registered: 9-2009 |
The action that you were supposed to do benefit Lucy in some way? If so: financially? Time saving? Better grades? Esteem amongst fellow colleagues? If the 'bribe' was not present, would you have done it? I am circling around, right? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4764 Registered: 4-2010 |
The action that you were supposed to do benefit Lucy in some way? Yes If so: financially? Time saving? Better grades? Esteem amongst fellow colleagues? Yope to this, no to rest If the 'bribe' was not present, would you have done it? No...(possible FA) I am circling around, right? Yes, but getting a little bit closer | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 663 Registered: 2-2007 |
Was the action constituting the "bribe" merely showing you the object? You say that knowing what the object was would most likely lead us no closer to the solution. Is that because the suggestion that the object was supposed to conjure in your mind was known only to you? My first thoughts running through the puzzle were that she was being promiscuous, hoping that you would sleep with her/that she would attract your attention. This scenario would satisfy the requirement that offering money would make the "bribe" criminal ... but it seems like we're trying to find a distinct object here, rather than something more abstract, like her body. Plus that seems a little too "serious"... and most objects that would qualify under that scenario, if we knew what they were, would lead us to the solution quickly. Am I at least warmer? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4803 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the action constituting the "bribe" merely showing you the object? Yope You say that knowing what the object was would most likely lead us no closer to the solution. Is that because the suggestion that the object was supposed to conjure in your mind was known only to you? No My first thoughts running through the puzzle were that she was being promiscuous, hoping that you would sleep with her/that she would attract your attention. This ain't it. This scenario would satisfy the requirement that offering money would make the "bribe" criminal ... but it seems like we're trying to find a distinct object here, rather than something more abstract, like her body. Right Plus that seems a little too "serious"... and most objects that would qualify under that scenario, if we knew what they were, would lead us to the solution quickly. Also true - this is not a serious puzzle. Am I at least warmer? Sort of. A couple of HINTS: The object had nothing to do with the action performed, and remember, I'm in college. What would a "bribe" look like to a college student (or a student at any level)? Nice to see you around again, by the way! | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 334 Registered: 9-2009 |
Let's try to warm this up since it seems I am in the mood for latteral thinking, my wife having flown 5 hours ago to a foreign country and ending up in another one :=) From your last hint, a bribe for a college student, but which isn't money: a drink? a higher grade? a kiss? an insignia? Random thought: is this something peculiar to American college systems, or do you think it's more or less universal? Line of questioning #2: The 'bribe' (I first mispelled this as bride, but I figure that is not relevant) was shown physically to you? A picture of it has been presented? You said that the object was smaller than a golf ball... was it a ring? Romance (even fictional) involved? Are you the genius of the school in some area or the best player of {soccer | chess | bridge |whatever else that I don't know how to play but which makes a good impression} and by doing what she wanted to be associated with / would have associated her with your fame / position? Line #3 of questioning: the object in question, is it something common that we can find in nearly all households? Something that you needed? Appeared to need? Something she might think it will please you? Line #4 (and last): You said that it was obvious from the object itself -- although it was unrelated -- that it was a bribe. That was because: some background information you had? The fact that the girl didn't have the habit of giving 'presents' to colleagues? Wild guess: are the circumstances of the bribing relevant? Was it at a party? During a game? In a play? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4961 Registered: 4-2010 |
Let's try to warm this up since it seems I am in the mood for latteral thinking, my wife having flown 5 hours ago to a foreign country and ending up in another one :=) Wow - how did that happen? Wait, don't tell me; it might make a great lateral puzzle. From your last hint, a bribe for a college student, but which isn't money: a drink? a higher grade? a kiss? an insignia? None of these Random thought: is this something peculiar to American college systems, or do you think it's more or less universal? Probably universal Line of questioning #2: The 'bribe' (I first mispelled this as bride, but I figure that is not relevant) was shown physically to you? Yes, svv of "shown" A picture of it has been presented? No, it was the actual item You said that the object was smaller than a golf ball... was it a ring? No Romance (even fictional) involved? No Are you the genius of the school in some area or the best player of {soccer | chess | bridge |whatever else that I don't know how to play but which makes a good impression} and by doing what she wanted to be associated with / would have associated her with your fame / position? No. HINT: She offered the "bribe" to a lot of people, not just me. And not just to guys, either. Line #3 of questioning: the object in question, is it something common that we can find in nearly all households? Yes Something that you needed? No Appeared to need? No Something she might think it will please you? Yes Line #4 (and last): You said that it was obvious from the object itself -- although it was unrelated -- that it was a bribe. Yes That was because: some background information you had? Yesish The fact that the girl didn't have the habit of giving 'presents' to colleagues? Unknown and irrel Wild guess: are the circumstances of the bribing relevant? YES! Was it at a party? During a game? In a play? None of these though | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 338 Registered: 9-2009 |
Wow - how did that happen? Wait, don't tell me; it might make a great lateral puzzle. No lateral puzzle whatsoever. She was bound for Paris and now she is in Charleroi. I mocked the French strike in the morning and I've been punished Was she staging a contest? "For this beautiful <thing-to-be-discovered> I'll let you do my homework". Any contest involved at all? Auction? Was it happening on the school premises or under the school administration supervision? The 'bribe' object -- is it helpful to find what it is or we just assume it is a small object, like a candy, use to 'bribe' someone? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4968 Registered: 4-2010 |
Wow - how did that happen? Wait, don't tell me; it might make a great lateral puzzle. No lateral puzzle whatsoever. She was bound for Paris and now she is in Charleroi. I mocked the French strike in the morning and I've been punished Didn't know about the French strike till just now. I hope your wife's OK. Was she staging a contest? "For this beautiful <thing-to-be-discovered> I'll let you do my homework". No Any contest involved at all? No, but... Auction? No Was it happening on the school premises Yes or under the school administration supervision? Not really The 'bribe' object -- is it helpful to find what it is or we just assume it is a small object, like a candy, use to 'bribe' someone? You can assume it's candy all you want, because it is in fact candy. Nice jump! | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 340 Registered: 9-2009 |
Didn't know about the French strike till just now. I hope your wife's OK. Well, I think she is now crossing the border with France, so she should be in a few hours. Time for me to laterally think about puzzles and literraly drink a beer So, not a formal contest, correct? But she did offer the candy to more than one person, right? Was it her birthday? Anniversary? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 4987 Registered: 4-2010 |
So, not a formal contest, correct? Well, you could say it was, but it would be vvv (very vague values) of "contest." But she did offer the candy to more than one person, right? Yes Was it her birthday? Anniversary? Neither HINT: In the real world, why are a lot of, if not a majority of, bribes given? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 108 Registered: 9-2010 |
Mmm...because someone wants someone else to do something for them? Or to hide something that they did wrong? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5004 Registered: 4-2010 |
Mmm...because someone wants someone else to do something for them? This, but what exactly? Or to hide something that they did wrong? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 357 Registered: 9-2009 |
Since I am in no position in finding out what a girl in college might want in exchange for a candy, let's try to narrow it down: was it related to entertainment? to actual school classes? would you do it without the candy? with the candy? with a Ferrari? do you think I would do it? for a candy, for money or for said Ferrari? You said 'noish' to doing it: was because you didn't like the candy? the girl? the action? was someone quicker? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5012 Registered: 4-2010 |
Since I am in no position in finding out what a girl in college might want in exchange for a candy, let's try to narrow it down: was it related to entertainment? to actual school classes? Neither would you do it without the candy? with the candy? with a Ferrari? HINT: I didn't do it because I couldn't do it. do you think I would do it? In my scenario, maybe - I'm not sure for a candy, for money or for said Ferrari? Possibly You said 'noish' to doing it: Should have been more of a No, my BLOOPER was because you didn't like the candy? the girl? the action? was someone quicker? None of these, but the last one is slightly OTRT | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 367 Registered: 9-2009 |
You couldn't do it... Someone else could? Did? Was it frustrating for you that you couldn't? Some physical aptitudes required? ("I wish I could, for the sake of that wonderful candy, but one ton is too much for me") Or some mental ones? ("For the same candy, I can compute this Capablanca vs Alekhin position up to 15 moves in advance"). | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5027 Registered: 4-2010 |
You couldn't do it... Someone else could? Yes, but that's not why I couldn't. Did? Ditto, but OTRT Was it frustrating for you that you couldn't? No, because... Some physical aptitudes required? ("I wish I could, for the sake of that wonderful candy, but one ton is too much for me") Or some mental ones? ("For the same candy, I can compute this Capablanca vs Alekhin position up to 15 moves in advance"). Neither, really. More mental than physical though | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5108 Registered: 4-2010 |
RECAP: A girl at my college, whom I do not know, offered me (and a bunch of other people) a "bribe" consisting of candy, in the hopes that I would do something for her. I did not do the thing. It was neither a physical nor mental task (maybe slightly mental), other people could do the task, and if a guy had made the offer, the puzzle would remain intact. HINT: I could not do the action more than once. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2533 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did the "thing" that you did not do require you to speak? Sing? Make any noise at all? Make a facial expression? Make a specific motion with you hand or hands? Do something with your fingers? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5196 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the "thing" that you did not do require you to speak? No Sing? No Make any noise at all? No Make a facial expression? No Make a specific motion with you hand or hands? Yope Do something with your fingers? Yes HINT: I needed to use the computer to do this, and only used the mouse; however, when this is usually done, you don't normally need a computer (though it is possible. Think along the lines of "something that can't be done more than once" outside of a scholarly setting, as well. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2535 Registered: 1-2001 |
"Can't be done" as in physically impossible to do more than once? Or not possible because as soon as its done it sets other things into motion that can't be reversed? Or maybe because there is no need to do it again (an example of this would be introducing yourself to someone - sure you can do it twice, but from the 2nd time on it would be viewed as odd or maybe annoying) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5199 Registered: 4-2010 |
"Can't be done" as in physically impossible to do more than once? Or not possible because as soon as its done it sets other things into motion that can't be reversed? Or maybe because there is no need to do it again (an example of this would be introducing yourself to someone - sure you can do it twice, but from the 2nd time on it would be viewed as odd or maybe annoying) Sort of none of these. HINT: If I did this twice, I would have broken the law; however, in this setting, there were preventative measures so I could not do it twice. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2537 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is file sharing involved? Piracy? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5200 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is file sharing involved? Piracy? Neither. And many students did this thing, all in one day. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2544 Registered: 1-2001 |
Hmmm...class registration? Credit card information? Social security number information? Identity information? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5217 Registered: 4-2010 |
Hmmm...class registration? Credit card information? Social security number information? Identity information? None of these | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5222 Registered: 4-2010 |
BIG MEGA HINT (because I want this puzzle solved): In just over a month, I suspect at least some of you, if not most, will be doing this very thing, though not on a school campus, but nationwide. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2551 Registered: 1-2001 |
Vote!?! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 176 Registered: 9-2010 |
Oh, I bet that's it! | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2554 Registered: 1-2001 |
He could have let this one age some more, like cheese... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5226 Registered: 4-2010 |
Vote!?! Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm tired of this one, so **********SPOILER********** A few weeks ago, a girl who was running for freshman class president left bags of candy on all the suite and hall doors in all the dorms. (I live in a suite - four dorm rooms to the suite.) Inside the bag was a little note, encouraging the recipient to vote for her - the class elections were that day. Unfortunately for her, I discovered the bag upon exiting my dorm...where I had been voting in the elections. The "bribe" did not work so well. As it turns out, neither she nor the candidate I voted for won, but I'd just picked a name at random, so, not a big deal. Nice job, Ixoye, Rbruma, and all the rest of you who asked good questions. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2555 Registered: 1-2001 |
You probably voted for Pedro...(good puzzle). | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5227 Registered: 4-2010 |
And yes, I suppose I could have let it age more, but my queue of potential puzzles was piling up. I hope you liked this one! |
