| Author | Message | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3270 Registered: 9-2009 |
We saw one, and thought that alone was a disaster. But they were unconcerned, and even told us there was another one just like it. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5781 Registered: 4-2010 |
One: an object? A person? A tangible object? We = HAM? HAF? HA-Mixed? Are you part of "we"? "They" = HAM? HAF? HA-Mixed? Are "they" older than "we"? Younger? About the same? Mixed? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3273 Registered: 9-2009 |
One: an object? Thisish. A person? A tangible object? Yope. We = HAM? HAF? HA-Mixed? This. Are you part of "we"? Yes. "They" = HAM? HAF? HA-Mixed? HA-irr. Are "they" older than "we"? Younger? About the same? Mixed? Irr. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5791 Registered: 4-2010 |
If you're part of "we"...skydiving relevant? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3291 Registered: 9-2009 |
If you're part of "we"...skydiving relevant? Indeed it is. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5800 Registered: 4-2010 |
Object: a parachute? A plane? A jump (i.e. someone jumping, not a ski jump)? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3295 Registered: 9-2009 |
Object: a parachute? A plane? A jump (i.e. someone jumping, not a ski jump)? No to all, but a plane is relevant. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5807 Registered: 4-2010 |
A take-off? A landing? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3307 Registered: 9-2009 |
A take-off? A landing? Not relevant. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5813 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the plane in the air? Performing a stunt? Carrying passengers? Carrying skydivers? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3309 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the plane in the air? Performing a stunt? Carrying passengers? Carrying skydivers? No to all. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5831 Registered: 4-2010 |
Should we be focusing on a specific part of the plane? If so, propeller? Fuselage? Fuel source? Wings? Tail? Or is this about the plane as a whole? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3311 Registered: 9-2009 |
Should we be focusing on a specific part of the plane? Yes. If so, propeller? Fuselage? Fuel source? Wings? Tail? Neither. Or is this about the plane as a whole? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5850 Registered: 4-2010 |
How about...the engine? Door? Windows? Cockpit? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3313 Registered: 9-2009 |
How about...the engine? This is the one. Door? Windows? Cockpit? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5860 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the appearance of the engine relevant? Did it look damaged? Inoperable? But it really wasn't? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3316 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the appearance of the engine relevant? Yes. Did it look damaged? Inoperable? Yes to both. But it really wasn't? Correct. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5863 Registered: 4-2010 |
So... "We saw one," (the engine) "and thought that alone was a disaster." (it looked crappy/damaged) "But they were unconcerned, and even told us there was another one just like it." (the engine was supposed to look this way, and they had another engine that was the same) This right? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3318 Registered: 9-2009 |
"We saw one," (the engine) No. We looked at the engine, and saw one. "and thought that alone was a disaster." (it looked crappy/damaged) It looked damaged. "But they were unconcerned, and even told us there was another one just like it." (the engine was supposed to look this way Yes., and they had another engine that was the same Incorrect.) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5868 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it one part of the engine? Or was there actually more than one engine, but it looked like one? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3321 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it one part of the engine? Yes, for svv of "part". Or was there actually more than one engine, but it looked like one? No. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1344 Registered: 11-2003 |
Was there something you saw on the engine, something that can vaguely be described as part of it, that made you believe the engine was damaged? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3323 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was there something you saw on the engine, something that can vaguely be described as part of it, that made you believe the engine was damaged? Yes - we looked at a part of the engine, saw "something", and thought it was damaged. But we were told it wasn't a problem, and that there was another "something" as well. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5874 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the other "something" another part of the engine? That looked damaged? But wasn't? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3325 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the other "something" another part of the engine? That looked damaged? But wasn't? The other "something" was on the same part of the engine. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5899 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the other "something" appear damaged? Was the other "something" actually damaged? Or did it prove that there was no damage? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3335 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the other "something" appear damaged? The other part appeared damaged. The "something" is the damage itself, which is youpishly a tangible object. Was the other "something" actually damaged? No. Or did it prove that there was no damage? Sort of, if we'd seen both the somethings, we probably would've concluded that everything was okay. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5906 Registered: 4-2010 |
Type of engine relevant? Is this the engine to your jump plane? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3338 Registered: 9-2009 |
Type of engine relevant? Is this the engine to your jump plane? Yes to both. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5909 Registered: 4-2010 |
So is it a turboprop engine? Other type of turbo engine? (My knowledge of airplane engines is minimal at best, nonexistent at worst.) | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3341 Registered: 9-2009 |
So is it a turboprop engine? This. Other type of turbo engine? Seeing the "something" in an unexpected place would cause concern for any engine. we were looking at the inside of the compressor stages of the turbine. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5913 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was some debris caught in the engine? Or did it just look that way? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3344 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was some debris caught in the engine? No. Or did it just look that way? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5921 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did it appear that the turbine was bent? That something was bent? Or broken off? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3357 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did it appear that the turbine was bent? That something was bent? Or broken off? Neither, but OTRT. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5929 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the turbine appear rusted? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3359 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the turbine appear rusted? No. "Bent" was closer. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5935 Registered: 4-2010 |
Twisted? Immobile? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3364 Registered: 9-2009 |
Twisted? Immobile? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5946 Registered: 4-2010 |
Bent...how about "folded"? "Doubled over"? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3366 Registered: 9-2009 |
Bent...how about "folded"? "Doubled over"? No, "bent" wasn't that close. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 424 Registered: 9-2010 |
Twisted? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3368 Registered: 9-2009 |
Twisted? No. Not exactly deformed, just... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 5958 Registered: 4-2010 |
Broken? Cracked? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3374 Registered: 9-2009 |
Broken? Cracked? This. ***SPOILER*** One of our less experienced pilots heard a strange sound on takeoff, and thought something was wrong with the plane. while looking around the engine, he noticed a millimeter-wide crack in the housing for the compressor stage (the intake part of the turbine). Now, a cracked turbine would be a disaster, and he worriedly called the manufacturer to tell them about it. The manufacturer however was unconcerned, and wondered if he didn't see the other crack as well - turns out this part of the engine is made from two half tubes clamped together, with a crack in between. The other crack was indeed visible, but only from an awkward angle. Another time, another pilot experienced the same noise on takeoff - and to make it stop he hit one of the cabin air vents with his fist. Turns out it comes loose now and then and starts to rattle, and is no cause for real concern at all. |
