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| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2010 |
A prostitute named Bunny went out one night. She managed to get quite a few tricks, before being arrested by Officer Hunter. The next day she made bail, purchased an expensive dress and went to an upscale club. Officer Hunter was at the same club too. Due in part to Hunter's presence, Bunny didn't get many tricks. At the end of the evening, Officer Hunter hugged Bunny and she went home quite wealthy. How did she do it? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 651 Registered: 9-2010 |
Card playing relevant? Bunny: H/A/F (Human/Adult/Female)? Officer Hunter: H/A/M (Human/Adult/Male)? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1406 Registered: 11-2003 |
All Bunny's and she's the same person? | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2010 |
Card playing relevant? Yes Bunny: H/A/F (Human/Adult/Female)? Yes Officer Hunter: H/A/M (Human/Adult/Male)? Yes | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2010 |
All Bunny's and she's the same person? I don't understand that. | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 242 Registered: 2-2005 |
re: the previous question, every time "she" is mentioned in the original post, is it referring to Bunny? (sometime people sneak in pronouns that don't refer to who we assume they might) | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2010 |
re: the previous question, every time "she" is mentioned in the original post, is it referring to Bunny? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6440 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was Bunny an undercover cop? Did Hunter recognize Bunny the second night? Did he hire her the second night? | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 12 Registered: 10-2010 |
Was Bunny an undercover cop? No Did Hunter recognize Bunny the second night? Yes Did he hire her the second night? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6452 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did she go home wealthy because of her prostitution? Because she stole Hunter's wallet when he hugged her? Did he hug her in friendship? As a romantic gesture? In an attempt to tackle her/otherwise prevent her from moving? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1420 Registered: 11-2003 |
When you said 'At the end of the evening, Officer Hunter hugged Bunny and she went home quite wealthy', was she wealthy monetary wise? Was she wealthy before she arrived? Got wealthy during the evening? After she hugged Hunter? Did she place a bet? | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 16 Registered: 10-2010 |
Did she go home wealthy because of her prostitution? No Because she stole Hunter's wallet when he hugged her? No Did he hug her in friendship? No not exactly As a romantic gesture? No In an attempt to tackle her/otherwise prevent her from moving? No | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 17 Registered: 10-2010 |
When you said 'At the end of the evening, Officer Hunter hugged Bunny and she went home quite wealthy', was she wealthy monetary wise? Yes Was she wealthy before she arrived? No Got wealthy during the evening? Yes After she hugged Hunter? No Did she place a bet? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6457 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did she get wealthy before Hunter hugged her? Is her dress relevant? Did she sell the dress? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6458 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did she sell the dress to Hunter? | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2010 |
Did she get wealthy before Hunter hugged her? Yes Is her dress relevant? Yope, indirectly Did she sell the dress? No | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 23 Registered: 10-2010 |
Did she sell the dress to Hunter? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6463 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is anything about the club relevant? The patrons? Activities at the club? | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 27 Registered: 10-2010 |
Is anything about the club relevant? Yes The patrons? Yope Activities at the club? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6471 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was there drinking at the club? Dancing? Did Bunny get wealthy through illegal means? Through theft? | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 30 Registered: 10-2010 |
Was there drinking at the club? Irr Dancing? Irr Did Bunny get wealthy through illegal means? No Through theft? No | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 246 Registered: 2-2005 |
(why aren't we asking more about card playing being relevant) tricks=sexual activities? i play spades, and when you win a hand, you won a 'trick' -- this closer to the trick in the puzzle? club=a place? or like a suit of cards, the clubs? is the type of card game relevant? poker? did this story really happen? could this story really happen? | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 39 Registered: 10-2010 |
(why aren't we asking more about card playing being relevant) Good Question tricks=sexual activities? Yes i play spades, and when you win a hand, you won a 'trick' -- this closer to the trick in the puzzle? Also Yes club=a place? Yes or like a suit of cards, the clubs? No, not in this case is the type of card game relevant? Yes! poker? No did this story really happen? No could this story really happen? Yes | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 248 Registered: 2-2005 |
was it spades? uno? bridge? keep going? so does each trick mean the same thing in the original puzzle? you said yes that trick meant sexual activity and yes that trick meant a hand of cards. are you saying it's both? had a guy once show me a magic trick by saying stuff like 'then the guy went down to the 425 club (showed a 4, 2, and 5 of clubs) and asked the bartender if he had change for a 10 (showed a 10) and bartender said sure, here's two fives (showed 2 5's) etc… is this story along these lines? is gambling relevant? is the name of the club relevant? | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 42 Registered: 10-2010 |
was it spades? No uno? No bridge? No keep going? Yes so does each trick mean the same thing in the original puzzle? No you said yes that trick meant sexual activity and yes that trick meant a hand of cards. are you saying it's both? Yes had a guy once show me a magic trick by saying stuff like 'then the guy went down to the 425 club (showed a 4, 2, and 5 of clubs) and asked the bartender if he had change for a 10 (showed a 10) and bartender said sure, here's two fives (showed 2 5's) etc… is this story along these lines? No, but neat magic trick is gambling relevant? No is the name of the club relevant? No | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 250 Registered: 2-2005 |
first trick=sexual? card game related? second trick=sexual? card game related? club=strip club? was bunny playing cards against officer hunter? more than just the 2 of them? was the hug that hunter and bunny share a hug out of friendship? was hunter signaling to someone something with the hug? so… bunny went out the first night as a prostitute, did sexual favors? with more than one client? arrested for prostitution? after making bail, she bought an expensive dress with prostitution money? did she know hunter was going to be there? Baccarat? I'm looking at a huge list of card games now and am tempted to paste them here… | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 44 Registered: 10-2010 |
first trick=sexual? Yes card game related? No second trick=sexual? No card game related? Yes club=strip club? No was bunny playing cards against officer hunter? Yes more than just the 2 of them? Yes was the hug that hunter and bunny share a hug out of friendship? No, not really was hunter signaling to someone something with the hug? No so… bunny went out the first night as a prostitute, did sexual favors? Yes with more than one client? Yes, Irr arrested for prostitution? Yes after making bail, she bought an expensive dress with prostitution money? Yes did she know hunter was going to be there? No, Irr Baccarat? No I'm looking at a huge list of card games now and am tempted to paste them here… Yikes, According to Hoyle, it should be on the short list. | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 252 Registered: 2-2005 |
alright, lets start here: 5 Card Draw 500 Rummy Blackjack Bridge Canasta Crazy Eights Cribbage Euchre Gin Rummy Go Fish Hearts Memory Match Mille Bornes Old Maid Omaha Hold’em Pinochle Pitch Poker Skat Solitaire Spades Spite & Malice Texas Hold’em Tarot War let me rephrase one question i asked previously: did she know hunter was going to be at the card game? since gambling is not involved, was this a friendly game (no money exchanging hands)? If she didn't get arrested the night before, would she have played cards the following day? is it likely that bunny was smiling while hugging hunter? …likely hunter was smiling while hugging bunny? did she go home with hunter post-hug? | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 46 Registered: 10-2010 |
alright, lets start here: ... Hearts This One ... let me rephrase one question i asked previously: did she know hunter was going to be at the card game? No, but Irr since gambling is not involved, was this a friendly game (no money exchanging hands)? Not exactly, but very legal If she didn't get arrested the night before, would she have played cards the following day? Irr, the events are not related in that way. is it likely that bunny was smiling while hugging hunter? Yes, she was! …likely hunter was smiling while hugging bunny? Yes, he was. did she go home with hunter post-hug? No | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 255 Registered: 2-2005 |
so we're talking about an upscale club where a person can go in and play hearts? more than 1 game going at a time? did she go home wealthy at the end of the story because she won at hearts? are the game mechanics of Hearts relevant to why she shared a hug with hunter? would this story have ended the same way she hadn't been arrested the night before? does someone mention a play on words about the tricks she performed the night before and the tricks involved in the game? | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 49 Registered: 10-2010 |
so we're talking about an upscale club where a person can go in and play hearts? more than 1 game going at a time? Yes, at first did she go home wealthy at the end of the story because she won at hearts? Yes are the game mechanics of Hearts relevant to why she shared a hug with hunter? No would this story have ended the same way she hadn't been arrested the night before? Yes, most likely does someone mention a play on words about the tricks she performed the night before and the tricks involved in the game? No | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 50 Registered: 10-2010 |
would this story have ended the same way she hadn't been arrested the night before? The arrest is simply to establish that Hunter knows that Bunny is a prostitute and that he will enforce the law. | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 257 Registered: 2-2005 |
didnt answer this part: so we're talking about an upscale club where a person can go in and play hearts? they playing in a hearts tournament? if the story would have ended the same way if she hadn't been arrested, does the solution involve a connection between the previous night's arrest and the 'win' at the hearts game? (struggling with the fact that the story would have ended the same if she hadn't been arrested the night before, seems like the first half of the story is irrelevant) does hunter know something about bunny from the previous night's arrest that helps him 'win' at the hearts game? a tell? were hunter and bunny partners in the hearts game? the fact that bunny didn't get any tricks lead to her winning? (going nil in hearts?) | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 258 Registered: 2-2005 |
(i didn't see your post about 'the arrest is simply…' before i posted my questions) | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 51 Registered: 10-2010 |
didnt answer this part: so we're talking about an upscale club where a person can go in and play hearts? Yes, sorry I ran the two questions together. they playing in a hearts tournament? Yes if the story would have ended the same way if she hadn't been arrested, does the solution involve a connection between the previous night's arrest and the 'win' at the hearts game? No, See above post. (struggling with the fact that the story would have ended the same if she hadn't been arrested the night before, seems like the first half of the story is irrelevant) I realize that the two could have been more tightly joined. It's a Rookie mistake. However, see above post. does hunter know something about bunny from the previous night's arrest that helps him 'win' at the hearts game? a tell? No, he didn't win were hunter and bunny partners in the hearts game? No the fact that bunny didn't get any tricks lead to her winning? (going nil in hearts?) No, the word is MANY not ANY, but close. | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 52 Registered: 10-2010 |
Yeah I added that post when I saw how the two halves of the story were loosely joined and too misleading. This is a learning experience for me. I appreciate the feedback. I will post an alternative writing of the story with the spoiler that would have worked better. But for now it is too late. However, I still believe the puzzle is solvable. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1909 Registered: 7-2009 |
In hearts if you don't take many tricks, that's good, because that means you don't take many points, and the goal is to have the fewest points at the end of the game. Did Bunny win the tournament? Because she took the fewest number of points? Did Hunter lose the tournament? Come in second place? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 653 Registered: 9-2009 |
So it is established that Bunny went home quite wealthy because she won at the hearts tournament, which was very legal. What remains to be solved? Why Hunter hugged her? How did she manage to win (other than sheer luck, I suppose)? Anything else? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6480 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did she shoot the moon? | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 59 Registered: 10-2010 |
In hearts if you don't take many tricks, that's good, because that means you don't take many points, and the goal is to have the fewest points at the end of the game. Did Bunny win the tournament? Yes Because she took the fewest number of points? Yes Did Hunter lose the tournament? Yes Come in second place? Yes | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 60 Registered: 10-2010 |
So it is established that Bunny went home quite wealthy because she won at the hearts tournament, which was very legal. What remains to be solved? Why Hunter hugged her? How did she manage to win (other than sheer luck, I suppose)? Anything else? We need to know why Hunter hugged Bunny, but I think we have that now. | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 61 Registered: 10-2010 |
Did she shoot the moon? No | ||
| Gameczar (Gameczar)
New member Username: Gameczar Post Number: 62 Registered: 10-2010 |
************* SPOILER ************** Bunny was "turning tricks" to get enough money to enter a Hearts tournament with a large entry fee and a large prize. She also needed a proper dress to be admitted. By coincidence Officer Hunter was playing in the tournament as well. He was so surprised by the transformation of Bunny and her playing ability that he was "off his game" and came in second. Hunter hugged Bunny as a form of congratulations, for winning the tournament and the prize money. If I were "rewriting" the puzzle today I would have made it like this. A prostitute named Bunny went out one night. She managed to get quite a few tricks, before being arrested and booked by Officer Hunter, an almost weekly occurrence. The next day she made bail, purchased an expensive dress and went to an upscale club. Officer Hunter was at the same club too, and surprised to see bunny. Due in part to Hunter's presence, Bunny didn't get many tricks. At the end of the evening, Officer Hunter hugged Bunny and she went home quite wealthy. Explain? Officer Hunter had become friends with Bunny. In fact he had been teaching Bunny how to play Hearts. He told her that evening about a charity Hearts tournament, with a large cash prize, which he was going to attend. She purchased a proper dress and entered the tournament. Hunter was so surprised by the transformation of the prostitute and her playing ability that he was "off his game" and came in second. When she won, Officer Hunter hugged Bunny because he was happy that she won and that she could get out of prostitution. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6520 Registered: 4-2010 |
Great puzzle! I was on the wrong track for a good chunk of the time...never caught on to the double meaning of "tricks". |
