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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 10:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

While I think of some more puzzles, a quick scrund:

I used to have a scrund about Greece. What was it?
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Relevant: people? Language? Location? Geography? Size? History? Something considered Greek? such as Greek salad? A certain location in Greece relevant? Tourism? Weather? Sports? Politics? Financial trouble relevant?
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Greek mythology? Religion? Romans relevant? Troy?
Balin (Balin)
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Relevant: people? Language? Location? Geography? Size? History? Something considered Greek? such as Greek salad? A certain location in Greece relevant? Yes Tourism? Weather? Sports? Politics? Financial trouble relevant?

Greek mythology? Yesish Religion? Yesish Romans relevant? Well, one place in Rome. Troy?

Everything else is a No.
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Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 11:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any of the Greek islands relevant?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 11:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any of the Greek islands relevant? No
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 12:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Grease relevant? :P

You mention that a place in Greece and in Rome is relevant. Same place?

Greece: Country? Ancient Greece? Roman Greece?
Rome: City? Empire? Holy Roman Empire?

Mythology and religion are sort of relevant. What about Roman mythology? Religion? Christianity? Polytheistic religions?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 12:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Grease relevant? :P No, neither the musical nor the, erm, cooking...thing.

You mention that a place in Greece and in Rome is relevant. Same place? Well, I thought they were.

Greece: Country? This Ancient Greece? And this Roman Greece?
Rome: City? This - Ancient Rome Empire? Holy Roman Empire?

Mythology and religion are sort of relevant. What about Roman mythology? Also relevant-ish, as well as... Religion? ...this... Christianity? ...but not this... Polytheistic religions? ...and Yes to this. The relevant religions are those of Ancient Greece and Rome.
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 12:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aha...so, because Ancient Greeks and Romans worshipped essentially the same gods and goddesses (mostly, they just seemed to have different names, except Apollo for some reason)...is that relevant? Did you think Rome was in Greece rather than Italy?
Balin (Balin)
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Aha...so, because Ancient Greeks and Romans worshipped essentially the same gods and goddesses (mostly, they just seemed to have different names, except Apollo for some reason)...is that relevant? Not really. Did you think Rome was in Greece rather than Italy? No. You have an FA about the word "location".
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Ok...did you think a certain building in Rome was the same as a place in Greece? Colosseum relevant?
Balin (Balin)
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Ok...did you think a certain building in Rome was the same as a place in Greece? Yes, although both were buildings. Colosseum relevant? No
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Did the buildings have the same name? Were they temples?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 1:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the buildings have the same name? Almost - Googling is allowed. Were they temples? Yes
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 2:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LTPF list of temples in Rome:

Temple to All the Gods, known as the Pantheon - Campus Martius
Temple of Antoninus and Faustina - Roman Forum
Temple of Apollo Palatinus - Palatine Hill
Temple of Apollo Sosianus - Near the Theater of Marcellus
Temple of Bellona (Rome) - Near the Theater of Marcellus
Temple of Caesar - Roman Forum
Temple of Castor and Pollux - In the Roman Forum
Temple of Concord - Roman Forum at the base of the Capitoline
Temple of Cybele (Magna Mater) - Palatine Hill
Temple of Divus Augustus behind Basilica Julia
Temple of Hadrian - Campus Martius (Built into Chamber of Commerce building)
Temple of Hercules Victor
Temple of Isis and Serapis - Campus Martius
Temple of Janus (Roman Forum)
Temple of Janus (Forum Holitorium)
Temple of Juno Moneta - Capitoline Hill
Temple of Jupiter (Capitoline Hill) - Capitoline Hill (under Palazzo Conservatori)
Temple of Mars Ultor - Forum of Augustus
Nymphaeum often called (erroneously) a Temple of Minerva Medica, formerly in the Forum Transitorum
Temple of Minerva Medica, named in literary sources but no longer extant
Temple of Peace - Forum of Peace (now mostly covered by Via dei Fori Imperiali)
Temple of Portunus - Near Santa Maria in Cosmedin
Temple of Romulus - Roman Forum
Temple of Saturn - West end of the Roman Forum
Temple of Siriaco - Janiculum Hill
Temple of Venus and Roma - Northeast corner of the Roman Forum
Temple of Venus Genetrix - Forum of Caesar
Temple of Vespasian and Titus
Temple of Vesta - Roman Forum
Temple of Veiovis - Capitoline Hill (Basement of Palazzo Senatorio)

Any of these?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 2:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LTPF list of temples in Rome:

Temple to All the Gods, known as the Pantheon - Campus Martius First shot on the nose - the Pantheon is the Roman half of the scrund. Should be just a quick step to the Greeks...
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 2:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Parthenon???
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 2:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Parthenon??? Yes, and that is the

**********SPOILER**********

For a few years, I thought the Pantheon and Parthenon - both ancient temples, though the former is in Rome and the latter in Greece - were one and the same. What cured this scrund? Yes, Kaylee, it was Carmen Sandiego. No, I'm not kidding.

Incidentally, I was cured of another scrund while running this puzzle - I'd thought the Pantheon was in Greece, but Google cured that one.

Well done Kaylee, and everyone else who asked questions. Next puzzle coming up.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 2:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hurrah for Carmen Sandiego, she stole Balin's scrund! What do you know, she did something good for a change! :-D
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They're not? Seriously? I just realized that.
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 3:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't worry too much, Gregory - I was only cured of that less than a year ago.

And scrund puzzles seem to have a tendency to cure the scrund in others - see Kaygee's "Blushing Bride" in the active section (though it has just been solved) and Noel's "A Christmas scrund" in the December '09 section for more examples of this.

Thankfully, no one shared my "Sympathy for the Devil" scrund - that would have been bad.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 7:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In this high school class we all had to take called Western Civilization, our teacher told us to remember that "parthenon" has an N after the "the", like "Athens" or "Athena", which indicates its location and connected deity. "Pantheon", in contrast, is like "pantheistic", meaning "worshipping all gods".
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Posted on Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 11:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But weren't the Greeks pantheistic too?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 1:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, but the Parthenon was dedicated to one particular goddess (Athena), whereas the Pantheon was a temple for all gods.

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