| Author | Message | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7012 Registered: 4-2010 |
I wonder if he's moved out...? I = me He - HAM True story | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1485 Registered: 11-2003 |
The Terrible Neighbour upstairs??? LOL Your age relevant? Any other people relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7019 Registered: 4-2010 |
The Terrible Neighbour upstairs??? LOL No, thankfully. Your age relevant? No Any other people relevant? Yes, two other HAMs. And I am not relevant at all to the scenario, but just the pondering. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 820 Registered: 9-2010 |
Can we call "him" Mark? The other two Luke? And John? So are they relatives? Friends? Neighbors? Of each other? Of you, even though you're not relevant to the scenario? Do they know you or each other personally at all? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7023 Registered: 4-2010 |
Can we call "him" Mark? The other two Luke? And John? Certainly So are they relatives? Luke and John are (brothers) Friends? Neighbors? Of each other? Of you, even though you're not relevant to the scenario? No to the rest. And I read this online. Do they know you or each other personally at all? Mark knows John but not Luke. Nobody involved knows me. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 821 Registered: 9-2010 |
Ah, ok. So are Mark and John coworkers? Or does one provide some sort of service for the other? Like gardening? Or taking care of his car? Or something else? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7024 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ah, ok. So are Mark and John coworkers? Close - Mark is John's boss. The job itself is irrelevant. However... Or does one provide some sort of service for the other? Like gardening? ...it is relevant that John mows Mark's lawn. Or taking care of his car? Or something else? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 822 Registered: 9-2010 |
Ok, so Mark is John's boss, and John mows Mark's lawn. Is this the reason Mark is John's boss, or is it a service John provides on the side? (Oh wait, you said that's irrelevant. Moving on...) Is John good at taking care of Mark's lawn? Is he bad at it? Did Mark want to fire him, if he's bad at it? So Luke has never met Mark at all? Are Luke and John twin brothers? If so, fraternal? Identical? If not, which one is older? (Or, considering this is the LTPF and you can get this one past me if I don't put it in...) If they're not twins, are they two of a larger set of multiples? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7025 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ok, so Mark is John's boss, and John mows Mark's lawn. Is this the reason Mark is John's boss, or is it a service John provides on the side? This (Oh wait, you said that's irrelevant. Moving on...) Well, it is important that John is mowing Mark's lawn, and that that is not part of his regular job. Is John good at taking care of Mark's lawn? Yes... Is he bad at it? No, but... Did Mark want to fire him, if he's bad at it? No So Luke has never met Mark at all? No - they have met, and Luke knew it was Mark, but not the other way round (HINT). Are Luke and John twin brothers? No If so, fraternal? Identical? If not, which one is older? Luke (Or, considering this is the LTPF and you can get this one past me if I don't put it in...) If they're not twins, are they two of a larger set of multiples? Hee hee, no. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 823 Registered: 9-2010 |
Ok, so, Mark has met Luke. But, he does not realize that Luke is the brother of John, who he employs to do...whatever, as well as mow the lawn, while Luke knows that Mark is his brother's employer. Hold that thought...*looks suspiciously at the comment about mowing Mark's lawn which isn't his regular job* Does he mow Mark's lawn regularly? Or are we talking about a specific one time thing? If it's a one time thing, is John mowing Mark's lawn to cover up something Luke did to it? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7026 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ok, so, Mark has met Luke. But, he does not realize that Luke is the brother of John, who he employs to do...whatever, as well as mow the lawn, while Luke knows that Mark is his brother's employer. Right. It may help to know that Mark is a stereotypical "evil boss". Hold that thought...*looks suspiciously at the comment about mowing Mark's lawn which isn't his regular job* Does he mow Mark's lawn regularly? This Or are we talking about a specific one time thing? If it's a one time thing, is John mowing Mark's lawn to cover up No something Luke did to it? MEGA yes | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 824 Registered: 9-2010 |
Ok...are we talking like mob boss evil? Is he hiring John to kill people? (I know, irrelevant...) So he mows the lawn regularly. And Luke did something to the lawn, but John's not trying to cover it up. Will mowing the lawn enhance it? Or is whatever Luke did to the lawn irrelevant to mowing it, since John does that anyway? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7029 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ok...are we talking like mob boss evil? Is he hiring John to kill people? Neither - just a complete jerk to his employees. (I know, irrelevant...) So he mows the lawn regularly. And Luke did something to the lawn, but John's not trying to cover it up. Correct. Will mowing the lawn enhance it? Yope Or is whatever Luke did to the lawn irrelevant to mowing it, since John does that anyway? Well, sometimes John helps Luke do "it" to the lawn. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 826 Registered: 9-2010 |
Ok...it yopishly enhances it. That's odd. Maybe if I figure out what the 'it' is... Does "it" involve: Putting stuff on Mark's lawn? Digging up Mark's lawn? Cutting Mark's lawn (well, in ways other than it's supposed to be) Watering Mark's lawn? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7030 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ok...it yopishly enhances it. That's odd. Maybe if I figure out what the 'it' is... Does "it" involve: Putting stuff on Mark's lawn? This Digging up Mark's lawn? Cutting Mark's lawn (well, in ways other than it's supposed to be) Watering Mark's lawn? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 828 Registered: 9-2010 |
Ok, so, putting stuff on Mark's lawn. Is the "stuff's" origin... Animal? Plant? Mineral? Chemical? Other? (LTPF list of other, if this) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7034 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ok, so, putting stuff on Mark's lawn. Is the "stuff's" origin... Animal? Plant? Mineral? Chemical? Other? (LTPF list of other, if this) White vinegar in some spots, weed 'n' feed (makes the grass greener) in others. Never combined, and neither fish nor chips are relevant. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 829 Registered: 9-2010 |
*has no idea what white vinegar would do to grass, but hazards a guess* Does it kill the grass? Make it white? Are they 'writing' something on the lawn and the greener grass makes the whiter/dead-er grass stand out? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7036 Registered: 4-2010 |
*has no idea what white vinegar would do to grass, but hazards a guess* Does it kill the grass? No, but... Make it white? ...this is close. The grass turns yellow. Are they 'writing' something on the lawn Not "writing", but OTRT and the greener grass makes the whiter/dead-er grass stand out? Definitely this, though | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 834 Registered: 9-2010 |
Drawing something on the lawn? Making symbols of some kind? Graffiti type stuff? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7040 Registered: 4-2010 |
Drawing something on the lawn? Yopish Making symbols of some kind? Well, I'm not sure I'd call them "symbols" - yope. Graffiti type stuff? Not this | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 836 Registered: 9-2010 |
So...drawing's not the right word either. Spraying? Pouring? Painting? Pictures? Words? A message? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7042 Registered: 4-2010 |
So...drawing's not the right word either. Spraying? This is probably closest - see below Pouring? Painting? Pictures? Yope to this. To help clear things up, the "drawing" consisted of three of the same geometric shape, intended to represent something. Words? A message? Neither of these | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 838 Registered: 9-2010 |
Three... Circles? Triangles? (Right, Isosceles, Equilateral?) Squares? Pentagons? Hexagons? Septagons? Octagons? Nonagons? (no, really, there are...) Decagons? Were they linked? Arranged in a straight line? In a triangle shape? A curved line? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7044 Registered: 4-2010 |
Three... Circles? Triangles? (Right, Isosceles, Equilateral?) Squares? Pentagons? Hexagons? Septagons? Octagons? Nonagons? (no, really, there are...) Decagons? None of those, but closest to "squares". Were they linked? Arranged in a straight line? Yes, but... In a triangle shape? A curved line? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 841 Registered: 9-2010 |
Diamonds? A diagonal line? Corner to corner? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7048 Registered: 4-2010 |
Diamonds? No - much simpler. A diagonal line? Corner to corner? No - it was a straight line, but there are two ways the line could go...trying to guard against FAs, I believe I caused one. Sorry. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 843 Registered: 9-2010 |
horizontal? vertical? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7051 Registered: 4-2010 |
horizontal? vertical? That's not what I meant by "two ways" - the shape is important. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 845 Registered: 9-2010 |
An arrow? A vector? (Not that I understand the significance of a vector or its difference from an arrow...) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7053 Registered: 4-2010 |
An arrow? A vector? (Not that I understand the significance of a vector or its difference from an arrow...) Neither. I meant the geometric shape...ARGH, I'm confusing myself. That means it's time for a RECAP: John, under instruction from his older brother Luke, sprays vinegar in three geometric shapes in a straight line in Mark's yard (Mark being his evil boss), and puts weed 'n' feed around it to emphasize the yellow grass. John is able to do this because he mows Mark's lawn. What the importance of this is has yet to be determined. HINT: The geometric shape is the common rectangle. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 847 Registered: 9-2010 |
*facepalm* And of course I left rectangle COMPLETELY out. Kaylee, a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is NOT a square. (Or so said my first grade teacher. I didn't take geometry in high school...) Follow the yellow brick road? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7055 Registered: 4-2010 |
Follow the yellow brick road? Good thought, but in this puzzle, unlike in Oz, it won't lead anywhere. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 848 Registered: 9-2010 |
Well, then you have me well and truly flummoxed. I have no idea what three yellow rectangles in a straight line would be. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7057 Registered: 4-2010 |
Well, then you have me well and truly flummoxed. I have no idea what three yellow rectangles in a straight line would be. Well, remember that Mark was a terrible boss. And now is where the title might come into play. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 850 Registered: 9-2010 |
Monster Mash...graveyard? Graves? Were the rectangles made to look like graves???? it seems that if I ever need a song stuck in my head, I need look no further than Balin...ah well, at least this one's in the spirit of the season. Oh look, a pun! :-D | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7059 Registered: 4-2010 |
Monster Mash...graveyard? Graves? Were the rectangles made to look like graves???? YES!!! So what, exactly, is going on? it seems that if I ever need a song stuck in my head, I need look no further than Balin...ah well, at least this one's in the spirit of the season. Oh look, a pun! :-D I see it, I see it! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 852 Registered: 9-2010 |
...well, that's the crux of the matter, isn't it? Are they trying to imply that he's killing his workers and burying them? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7060 Registered: 4-2010 |
...well, that's the crux of the matter, isn't it? True, true. Are they trying to imply that he's killing his workers and burying them? No...this is a Halloween puzzle, remember. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 853 Registered: 9-2010 |
are they decorating his house for Halloween? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7062 Registered: 4-2010 |
are they decorating his house for Halloween? No | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 856 Registered: 9-2010 |
tricking him? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7069 Registered: 4-2010 |
tricking him? Sort of. This is more of a prank on an epic scale. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7084 Registered: 4-2010 |
Just to CLARIFY that last answer, the prank involves them tricking him in a way, but how? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 867 Registered: 9-2010 |
Clarification was definitely needed... Do they want him thinking that they were uncovering graves by mowing his lawn? (Or rather, that John was, since Mark doesn't know Luke was involved) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7089 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do they want him thinking that they were uncovering graves Noish by mowing his lawn? No (Or rather, that John was, since Mark doesn't know Luke was involved) | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 407 Registered: 8-2010 |
Clarification: Is Mark John's boss or Luke's? Costumes relevant? Reformation Day? (What denomination are you, BTW?) Were the graves supposed to be of anyone in particular? John? Luke? Mark? Coworkers? Clients? Are you one of the characters? Anyone else relevant? [LTPF list of integers] additional people? Occupation relevant? If so, LTPF list? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7107 Registered: 4-2010 |
Clarification: Is Mark John's boss or Luke's? Mark is John's boss. Costumes relevant? Reformation Day? Neither (What denomination are you, BTW?) Nondenominational Protestant, but the church I currently attend is affiliated with Southern Baptist. It's not a stereotypical So. Baptist church at all, though. Were the graves supposed to be of anyone in particular? Yesish/Yope John? Luke? Mark? Coworkers? Clients? None of these Are you one of the characters? No Anyone else relevant? [LTPF list of integers] additional people? The 3 people (HAM) whose graves these "supposedly" are, but that's it. Occupation relevant? No, but I will say that... If so, LTPF list? ...John is assistant manager at a store, and Mark is the owner. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3539 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are they tricking him into thinking: someone's buried in his yard? That his house is built on an ancient Indian burial ground? Or old graveyard? That something supernatural is going on? Are they trying to scare him? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7109 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are they tricking him into thinking: someone's buried in his yard? That his house is built on an ancient Indian burial ground? This one!! Or old graveyard? That something supernatural is going on? Are they trying to scare him? Very much so... **********SPOILER********** Luke is creating these grave-sized rectangles on the lawn as only one part of a massive prank on his brother's boss, Mark, who is a stereotypical evil boss. The puzzle statement? Well, when I first read the story, the prank had not been concluded yet, and it still has not been (at least, has been written down). So this caused me to wonder...if the prank went off without a hitch, I wonder if the boss moved out? And, of course, the obligatory link to the story. Kudos to Kaylee for most of the legwork and Galfisk for the leap, and to all of you... HAPPY (early) HALLOWEEN! |
