| Author | Message | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 487 Registered: 6-2005 |
Back after a busy busy period, here's my new puzzle: "Understood it"? I really don't think so... Fire away! | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3541 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did someone claim they understood something? I=you? If not, "I"=HAM? Someone: one person? More than one? Non-person? HAM? It: instructions? A concept? A device? A problem? An order/command? A situation? A threat? An offer? A contract? A law? A puzzle? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 488 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did someone claim they understood something? No I=you? Yes If not, "I"=HAM? Someone: one person? More than one? Non-person? This is closest HAM? It: instructions? A concept? A device? A problem? An order/command? A situation? A threat? An offer? A contract? A law? A puzzle? No to all | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 741 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are there any other relevant persons? If so, one? two? three? more? HAM? Is somebody enquirying if something has been understood? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 489 Registered: 6-2005 |
Are there any other relevant persons? No If so, one? two? three? more? HAM? So no to all Is somebody enquirying if something has been understood? No! Good question! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7115 Registered: 4-2010 |
Non-person: an animal? A pet? Male? Female? Adult? Is the title relevant? Is "understood it" the answer to a question? Or a proposed answer to a question? That is correct? Incorrect? Game shows relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 744 Registered: 9-2009 |
The 'understood it': was it written somewhere? Does it represent a question? Or maybe a (brand) name? Or part of it? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3543 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the understanding (or lack of it): on your part? someone else's? Is a work of fiction relevant? Media? Are you talking to the TV? Is the puzzle statement spoken? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 490 Registered: 6-2005 |
Non-person: an animal? A pet? Male? Female? Adult? No to all Is the title relevant? It might be a hint, as in all puzzles, but I would not start from there... Is "understood it" the answer to a question? Yesish Or a proposed answer to a question? More Yesish :-) That is correct? Incorrect? This Game shows relevant? No The 'understood it': was it written somewhere? YES! Does it represent a question? Or maybe a (brand) name? Or part of it? No to rest Is the understanding (or lack of it): on your part? someone else's? FA to both Is a work of fiction relevant? Media? Are you talking to the TV? Is the puzzle statement spoken? No to all, tiny -ish for "Media" | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7126 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were the exact words "understood it" what was written? Was it written over/under/next to something? That made an apparent contradiction? Or paradox? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 492 Registered: 6-2005 |
Were the exact words "understood it" what was written? Yes Was it written over/under/next to something? Next to something That made an apparent contradiction? Or paradox? Not these, but that made me think "I really don't think so | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 770 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it a sign saying: "Writing on this wall is not allowed" and somebody added, in writing, "Understood it"? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2227 Registered: 3-2006 |
Romanes eunt domus? Or something in that vein? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 494 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was it a sign saying: "Writing on this wall is not allowed" and somebody added, in writing, "Understood it"? No to both, and I'd say maybe FA... Romanes eunt domus? Or something in that vein? Ha ha one of my fav movies, but no, nothing like this :-) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7181 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was "understood it" physically written down? Was it in visible text? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 495 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was "understood it" physically written down? Yesish Was it in visible text? Yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7202 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it written in pen? In pencil? Chalk? Marker? Highlighter? Or was the text computer-generated? On a sign? In lights? Neon? LEDs? On one of those placard-type signs with removable letters? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 496 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was it written in pen? In pencil? Chalk? Marker? Highlighter? Or was the text computer-generated? This! But now explore... On a sign? In lights? Neon? LEDs? On one of those placard-type signs with removable letters? No to all rest | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7205 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the text displayed on a screen? A wall? Was it on the computer itself? Was that the only text? Or was there more? If so, is the other text relevant? Was this part of a Powerpoint presentation? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 497 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was the text displayed on a screen? Yes A wall? So no Was it on the computer itself? Yes! Was that the only text? No Or was there more? Yes! If so, is the other text relevant? Yes again! Was this part of a Powerpoint presentation? No to this, but good round of questions here! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7206 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the rest of the text on the Internet? On a document? In an e-mail? Was "understood it" a sentence on its own? Or was it part of another sentence? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 498 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was the rest of the text on the Internet? Yes On a document? In an e-mail? No to rest Was "understood it" a sentence on its own? Yes Or was it part of another sentence? So no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7216 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the text on a web page? An article? A caption? A blog? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 499 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was the text on a web page? Yes An article? A caption? No to rest | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7224 Registered: 4-2010 |
The web page - related to sports? Games? This forum? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 500 Registered: 6-2005 |
The web page - related to sports? Games? This forum? No to all, but keep exploring, you'll need to discover what page exactly is | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7229 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the web page related to news? Weather? A search engine? Maps? Getting directions? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 501 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the web page related to news? Weather? A search engine? This is closest. And very close Maps? Getting directions? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7236 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it Wikipedia? Or some other online encyclopedia? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 503 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is it Wikipedia? Or some other online encyclopedia? No, but OTRT | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7242 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it a site where information can be looked up? A historical website? An educational one? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 505 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is it a site where information can be looked up? Yes A historical website? No An educational one? Yope... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7248 Registered: 4-2010 |
Google? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 507 Registered: 6-2005 |
Google? Yes with tiny tiny -ish... not google main page but... | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 106 Registered: 7-2010 |
Was it Google Translator? And you got a very awful translation? And "understood it" was part thereof? And you thought that the translator couldn't have understood the text to be translated because the result was to messed up? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 107 Registered: 7-2010 |
Alternative: Did you perform a Google search and the results didn't match your query at all? Because Google assumed you made a typo or something and suggested its own search terms? And "understood it" turned up somewhere in the results? | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 509 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was it Google Translator? YES! And you got a very awful translation? Well, I'd rather say funny or ridiculous than awful :-) And "understood it" was part thereof? Not a part of it, ALL of it And you thought that the translator couldn't have understood the text to be translated because the result was to messed up? More or less so Alternative: Did you perform a Google search and the results didn't match your query at all? Because Google assumed you made a typo or something and suggested its own search terms? And "understood it" turned up somewhere in the results? So no to this alternative idea. You're almost there, but there's one more step I'd like you to find out, because it turns out to be the funniest point of all the story :-) In the meanwhile, here's a RECAP: I needed to translate something to English, I used Google translator (bad idea, I know, but this was 5-6 years ago, at the beginning of automatic translators), and it suggested me the answer "understood it", which was clearly totally false and unacceptable, and made me think "I really don't think so". Now why the answer could clearly not be correct? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 109 Registered: 7-2010 |
Was the original text much longer to be translated by just two words? Were neither "understood" nor "it" part of the original text (well, the according words in the foreign language, of course)? Was the original text written in a language that the translator actually wasn't supposed to know? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 110 Registered: 7-2010 |
Oh, and this one happens to me a lot of times when use it: Did you expect a certain word to turn up in the translation, such as a name? And the translator assumed that said name was in fact the word for "understood" or "it"? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 807 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did you try to translate 'capitolo' (as per the title) and the translator got "l'ho capito" or something like this? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 808 Registered: 9-2009 |
Incidentally, just checking the google translator now, "capito lo" gets "understood the" which is somehow logical | ||
| Mattiel (Mattiel)
New member Username: Mattiel Post Number: 510 Registered: 6-2005 |
I'll skip Potato's questions because Rbruma got all of it :-) Did you try to translate 'capitolo' (as per the title) and the translator got "l'ho capito" or something like this? EXACTLY SO! This happened to me many years ago, I was looking for the English translation of the Italian word "capitolo" (= chapter, hence the puzzle title), and Google gave me the translation of "capito lo" (Understood = capito, it = lo, more or less), which was clearly wrong, and I'd say quite ridiculous too :-) Luckily enough, performances of automatic translators have made huge steps since... I tried it now, just for fun, and it returns the right translation, "chapter". Btw I don't use google translator any more since a long time... when I have difficulties with English (which happens quite often here on LTPF :-P) I use wordreference.com, very complete and precise! Oh, and of course that's the SPOILER! Kudos to Balin, Galfisk and Woodworm for the ground work, Potato for the decisive idea, and Rbruma for the final solve! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 7322 Registered: 4-2010 |
Nice one! There's so much fun to be had with automatic translators, especially if you go language to language to language. It always comes out hilarious. |
