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Hi everyone

With thanks to Balin for resurrecting the connections style puzzles here's one for you which will be a toughie I hope.

What is the connection between the following

A one eyed man
A man who should have lived up to his name but didn't (unfortunately)
A substitute for applaud
And somewhere to land

While you may get the connection quite quickly some of the clues will be difficult to solve

Enjoy
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One-eyed man: HAM? Real person? Fictional? Cyclops? Does he have one missing eye? Does he have a fake eye to replace it? Made of glass? Wood? Does he wear an eyepatch? Is he a pirate?

Second clue...man: HAM? "lived up to his name" = his real name? First name? Last? Combined? Winner Lane relevant?

Substitute for applaud - a synonym? Clap? Or something done in place of applauding? Like a standing ovation? Calling "encore!"? Cheering?

Somewhere to land: is "land" used as a verb? Noun? "Somewhere" - a physical place?
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One-eyed man: HAM? No Real person? No not a person at all Fictional? Cyclops? No to these Does he have one missing eye? No Does he have a fake eye to replace it? No Made of glass? Wood? Does he wear an eyepatch? No Is he a pirate? No but nice thinking Jim Lad

Second clue...man: HAM? Yes "lived up to his name" = his real name? Yes First name? Last? Yes his surname Combined? No just his surname Winner Lane relevant? No what's winner lane?

Substitute for applaud - a synonym? Yes buts there's more to it Clap? Yes but be careful the clue now reads a substitute for Clap Or something done in place of applauding? No Like a standing ovation? Calling "encore!"? Cheering? No to these

Somewhere to land: is "land" used as a verb? Yes Noun? No "Somewhere" - a physical place? Indeed
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Winner Lane - a man named his first son "Winner Lane" for the positive effect, and his second son "Loser Lane" as a "book-end". Of course, Winner Lane became a career criminal, while Loser Lane became a sheriff.

One-eyed man...could this be read as "one-'I'd man"? Something with one I in its name? Is it a statue? An animal? Anthropomorphic?

Lived up to his name...is the surname also a regular English word? Implying success? Greatness? Wealth? It's not "Koch" is it? (Couldn't resist, sorry)

Clap...trap? A synonym for "clap"? Someone named "clap"? Or something named "clap"? A phrase using the word "clap"?

Somewhere to land...the moon? *starts humming "Man on the Moon"* Relevant what is being landed? A person? A thing? A vehicle? Another object used for transportation? A boat? A rocket ship?
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Well, I don't know "Man on the Moon", O Master of Getting Songs In My Head *sticks tongue out at Balin*...but you are getting "I Don't Want To Live On The Moon" there. Nice work, Matt.
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A one-eyed man is king in the land of the blind?
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Winner Lane - a man named his first son "Winner Lane" for the positive effect, and his second son "Loser Lane" as a "book-end". Of course, Winner Lane became a career criminal, while Loser Lane became a sheriff. Interesting

One-eyed man...could this be read as "one-'I'd man"? Something with one I in its name? Is it a statue? An animal? No to all of these Anthropomorphic? And no to this rather impressive word

Lived up to his name...is the surname also a regular English word? Yes Implying success? Greatness? Wealth? But none of these although greatness could get a yope but only a slight one It's not "Koch" is it? (Couldn't resist, sorry) This is a kochless puzzle - Insert your own pun here

Clap...trap? No A synonym for "clap"? No Someone named "clap"? No Or something named "clap"? yes A phrase using the word "clap"? Yope

Somewhere to land...the moon? *starts humming "Man on the Moon"* Humming REM songs is not only allowed in Peter365 puzzles it's actively encouraged Relevant what is being landed? Yes A person? This and... A thing? This A vehicle? Another object used for transportation? This A boat? A rocket ship?
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A one-eyed man is king in the land of the blind? This may well be true but is not relevant here
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One-eyed man: a chess piece? A needle? The Old Man of Hoy?

Person with inappropriate name: Michael Winner? John Major? Buddy Rich?

Applause: something you do instead of clapping?

Somewhere to land: helistop? heliport? runway? airstrip?

Nothing jumping out at me right now ...
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The man who didn't live up to his name: did he die horribly?
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One-eyed man: a chess piece? A needle? The Old Man of Hoy? None of these I'm afraid

Person with inappropriate name: Michael Winner? John Major? Buddy Rich? Hee Hee nice list but no.

Applause: something you do instead of clapping? No pay careful attention to my earlier answer to questions about clap

Somewhere to land: helistop? heliport? runway? airstrip? Well I was looking for Airport but you were close enough

Nothing jumping out at me right now ...all will become apparent

The man who didn't live up to his name: did he die horribly? No he's still alive
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Airport - are we looking for a specific one? In the US? In Europe? Somewhere else?

One-eyed man - is it an object? In the shape of a man?

Name - was his name "Good"?
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Airport - are we looking for a specific one? Indeed and a very well known one In the US? Yes In Europe? Somewhere else?

One-eyed man - is it an object? In the shape of a man? You know it's actually very difficult to describe what these actually are. I will say yope to object and yope to in the shape of a man. To ease confusion I will give a small clue . Not all of these "things" have one eye

Name - was his name "Good"? No

I'll reiterate that I expect you to get what connects these 4 things in pretty quick time as two of the clues are quite easy. However I'll expect you to get the flow of how each clue gets to the connection.
In order of difficulty I would rate them starting with the easiest as follows:

Airport - Very easy
One eyed thingymebob - Easy enough
Guy not living up to his name - Difficult some specialist knowledge needed or ability to google effectively
Substitution for Clap - About the same level of difficulty as previous
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The airport: KJFK? KORD? KLGA? ... My two cents
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Substitution for Clap = clapper?
Airport: JFK? LaGuardia? Newark? O'Hare? Atlanta-Hatfield?
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One-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater?

Airport - LAX?
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The airport: KJFK? Yep JFK it is KORD? KLGA? ... My two cents

Substitution for Clap = clapper? No a lateral sidestep is required here
Airport: JFK? Yes LaGuardia? Newark? O'Hare? Atlanta-Hatfield?

One-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater? Hee hee nice quess but no and it's nothing to do with the Minnesota Vikings defense either

Airport - LAX? No but I'd love to ring that Airport ask for security and say hello is that lax security.
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So JFK -> the president? His assassination?

Is "clap" a person's name?

Side note: My uncle is a Vikings fan, so I'm wondering what he'd think of that comment. I'm a Patriots fan myself, so I'm sure he's pleased with the Randy Moss trade which is the subject of my next puzzle. Run-on paragraph over.
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So JFK -> the president? Yes His assassination? But No

Is "clap" a person's name? No it's not

Side note: My uncle is a Vikings fan, so I'm wondering what he'd think of that comment. I'm a Patriots fan myself, so I'm sure he's pleased with the Randy Moss trade which is the subject of my next puzzle. Run-on paragraph over.I can state with confidence that I am probably one of about 5 Irish people who knows that the Minnesota defense of the 60s & 70s were called that. American football is not very popular over here. Wasn't it the Dolphins in the 70s or maybe early 80s whose defense nearly entirely consisted of guys whose surname began with a B. They were called the Killer Bees. Talking of sporting nicknames the best I've heard is English footballer Fitz Hall. His nickname is one-size. How clever is that.
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One of my favorite sports nicknames is Chris Gwosdz - a baseball player. Nicknamed "Eye Chart". G-W-O-S-D-Z.

And you're dead-on about the Killer Bees (early '80s). In my time, the Killer Bees were the heart of the Houston Astros' batting order - Bagwell, Berkman, and Biggio.

Tangent over (for now) - back to the puzzle!




Is anything about Kennedy relevant? A historical event over the course of his presidency? The years he was president? His VP (LBJ)? Cuban Missile Crisis? Bay of Pigs?

One-eyed thing - a Jack? (as in cards)



Incidentally, on the "sports nicknames", Alexei Ramirez (White Sox) is nicknamed the "Cuban Missile", so when he gets into a slump, it's the "Cuban Missile Crisis".

OK, tangent really over now.
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One of my favorite sports nicknames is Chris Gwosdz - a baseball player. Nicknamed "Eye Chart". G-W-O-S-D-Z. Excellent

And you're dead-on about the Killer Bees (early '80s). In my time, the Killer Bees were the heart of the Houston Astros' batting order - Bagwell, Berkman, and Biggio.

Tangent over (for now) - back to the puzzle!



Is anything about Kennedy relevant? Yes A historical event over the course of his presidency? The years he was president? His VP (LBJ)? Cuban Missile Crisis? Bay of Pigs? No to rest

One-eyed thing - a Jack? (as in cards) Spot on well done. No further work to be done on this clue



Incidentally, on the "sports nicknames", Alexei Ramirez (White Sox) is nicknamed the "Cuban Missile", so when he gets into a slump, it's the "Cuban Missile Crisis".

OK, tangent really over now. Last entry to our tangent. There was a guy who played for my team Manchester City called Kiki Mussampa. The players nicknamed him Chris. Chris Mussampa - Christmas Hamper -- Hee Hee.
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Not Dylan songs, is it? Jack Kennedy and the Jack of Hearts feature in Bob lyrics. But then, most things do.

Is it just that JFK was called Jack? Or something else about him? His wife? His family? A speech? His assassination?
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Not Dylan songs, is it? As woubit would say... no that was some other puzzle Jack Kennedy and the Jack of Hearts feature in Bob lyrics. But then, most things do. A good puzzle would be to find a set of things not contained in a Dylan lyric

Is it just that JFK was called Jack? Yes Or something else about him? His wife? His family? A speech? His assassination?

Ok I did say the actual connection was easy but mapping the clues to the connection is the challenge.

The connection here is that they are all Jacks or some description

We have :

Somewhere to Land - Airport - JFK - Jack Kennedy
A one eyed man - Either the Jack of Spades or Hearts
A substitution for clap
A man who unfortunately didn't live up to his name.

The last two should take some time.
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Was the man who didn't live up to his name also named Jack? Is he a real person? Fictional?
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Was the man who didn't live up to his name also named Jack? Well his name wasn't Jack but.... Is he a real person? Yes Fictional? yes
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Was the man named John? Kennedy? Fitzgerald?
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Was the man named John? He was but be very careful the fact that his name is John is purely incidental and does not explain why he might be a Jack of some description. Kennedy? Fitzgerald? No to rest.
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So he was a real fictional person...was he a folk hero? A person whose exploits were magnified? Is he from a movie? Book? Song? Folk tale? Popular urban legend?
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So he was a real fictional person...was he a folk hero? A person whose exploits were magnified? Is he from a movie? Book? Song? Folk tale? Popular urban legend? OH DEAR MAJOR BLOOPER ALERT. JOHN IS NOT A FICTIONAL CHARACTER . HE IS A REAL PERSON. MANY APOLOGIES
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Is John alive? Was he alive in [LTPF list of centuries]? Is he a celebrity? An entertainer? An athlete? John Wayne? John Fogerty? John Rocker?
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Is John alive? Yes Was he alive in [LTPF list of centuries]? Is he a celebrity? No An entertainer? No An athlete? No John Wayne? John Fogerty? John Rocker? None of these
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Is John a politician? Does he live in [LTPF list of continents]? John Glenn?
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Is John a politician? No Does he live in [LTPF list of continents]? Europe - UK John Glenn? No
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Is John well-known in the UK? Outside of the UK?
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Is John well-known in the UK? Not especially Outside of the UK? No

Might be worth concentrating on the sort of name people can have that they could or could not live up to
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So John's surname is also an everyday word? Allowable in scrabble? Is it an agent noun? Is he involved in sports? Entertainment? Music? Is it simply his surname that he didn't live up to? Would it work if he were called Ernest? Or perhaps it would work even better if he were called Ernest?
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So John's surname is also an everyday word? yes Allowable in scrabble? Yes Is it an agent noun? No Is he involved in sports? No Entertainment? No Music? no Is it simply his surname that he didn't live up to? Yes Would it work if he were called Ernest? Actually it would Or perhaps it would work even better if he were called Ernest? Would work about the same I'm guessing
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If not an agent noun, is it an adjective?
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Would it work if he were named Loser? Winner? Liar? Bob? Jim? Mary (but was still male?) Jesus? Gregory? Is there any name for which it would not work?

Is the word that's the same as his last name a bad quality (Like Jerk?) A good quality (like Wise?) Some quality that isn't necessarily good or bad (like Green, where if you didn't have green skin that would be good, but if you weren't "Green" (ie environmentally friendly) that would probably be bad.)?
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Other question that I forgot to post:
Is John's profession relevant? Is the last name related to the profession in an unusual way (like a lawyer named Cheatham or a Doctor named Sikh?)
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Would it work if he were named Loser? Yesish Winner? No Liar? Yes Bob? Jim? Mary (but was still male?) Jesus? Gregory? His first name is irrelevant Is there any name for which it would not work? Too many to mention. Suffice to say that his surname is a personality trait which unfortunately this man didn't have

Is the word that's the same as his last name a bad quality (Like Jerk?) A good quality (like Wise?) Some quality that isn't necessarily good or bad (like Green, where if you didn't have green skin that would be good, but if you weren't "Green" (ie environmentally friendly) that would probably be bad.)? Hard to answer . On the whole it is probably a good thing but being too (surname) would be a bad thing I guess
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If not an agent noun, is it an adjective? yes

Other question that I forgot to post:
Is John's profession relevant? No Is the last name related to the profession in an unusual way (like a lawyer named Cheatham or a Doctor named Sikh?) No ... I once chartered a sea fishing boat from a Mr John Angles.
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Was his last name Evil? Criminal? Crooks?
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Was his last name Evil? Criminal? Crooks? None of these but don't dismiss this line of questioning altogether
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Nice? Polite? Brownnoser? Succop (pronounced "suck up", it's a real last name.) Rude (Ruud?) Mean? Bully?
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Nice? Polite? Brownnoser? Succop (pronounced "suck up", it's a real last name.) Rude (Ruud?) Mean? Bully? none of these I'm afraid
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Baddie? Grumpy? Grump? Cruel?
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Baddie? Grumpy? Grump? Cruel? No. Don'f forget that in the main this trait is a good one. It's just that too much of it might hinder someone throughout their life. Your earlier question touched on something relevant but not pertaining to his surname
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A shot in the dark: John Goodwill?
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A shot in the dark: John Goodwill? No but nice try
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John Good? John Rich?
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John Good? No John Rich? No it's more a personality trait than a discription of the person's status
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Luck? Lucky? Honest?
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Luck? Lucky? Honest? None of these but Honest is closest but not really that close
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Truthful? Goodman?
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Truthful? Goodman? No . It's not a synonym of honest, but out of the three guesses that Greg had it was the one that was closest in that it was a personality trait
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Loyal? Kind? Compassionate?
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John Loving?
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Or even this guy?

I still get the feeling that I don't know Jack.
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IGNORE THE ABOVE!

Ding-dong ... John Humble pretended to be the Yorkshire Ripper ('Jack') in a series of hoax calls in the late 70s. I remember the case very well, as I lived in Yorkshire at the time. Very scary, it was.

Okay, I think (hope!) that's our third Jack.
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I hope so too - nice work, Woodworm!

That leaves us with the "clap" Jack, correct?
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Anything to do with John Lennon? Of course the rattling of jewellery is an alternative to clapping. John was named after his granddad, Jack, apparently.

Am I the walrus, or just the going nowhere man?
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Balin

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Loyal? Kind? Compassionate? No to these but help is at hand

John Loving? Or even this guy?

I still get the feeling that I don't know Jack.
IGNORE THE ABOVE! How could I ignore the splendidly named John Jolly. Lots of interesting Johns around

Ding-dong ... John Humble pretended to be the Yorkshire Ripper ('Jack') in a series of hoax calls in the late 70s. I remember the case very well, as I lived in Yorkshire at the time. Very scary, it was.

Okay, I think (hope!) that's our third Jack. Indeed . Super job Woodworm. John Humble was the man who sent letters and a tape recorded message to the police hunting the serial killer "The Yorkshire Ripper" claiming to be the murderer. Humble had a strong wearside/geordie accent and the police having decided that the tape and letters were from the real killer took the tragic decision to eliminate suspects from their enquiries who did not have a geordie accent. This afforded the real killer Peter Sutcliffe to commit a further 3 murders before being caught. Sutcliffe of course did not have a geordie accent and had been interviewed by police a staggering 9 times during the 6 year hunt for the Ripper. Humble was caught many years letter through DNA profiling from a sample taken from a licked envolope. He was sentenced to 8 years in prison. On the tape he introduced himself as Jack after the notorious Jack The Ripper and subsequently became known as Wearside Jack. So John Humble (who wasn't very humble) is your third Jack.

Click http://www.execulink.com/~kbrannen/ for more info on what is in my opinion the most incredible murder hunt in history.


Balin

I hope so too - nice work, Woodworm!

That leaves us with the "clap" Jack, correct? Yes


Anything to do with John Lennon? Of course the rattling of jewellery is an alternative to clapping. John was named after his granddad, Jack, apparently. No to all of this

Am I the walrus, or just the going nowhere man? Not the walrus nor even the eggman!
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Are we looking for other meanings of the word 'clap'? Such as a cow clap? Also known as a cow pat? (Not sure that's a common usage outside Yorkshire, actually.)

A clap skate?

Oh surely we're not talking about a dose, are we?

Actually, VD = Vera Duckworth. Married to Jack.

Hehe.
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Are we looking for other meanings of the word 'clap'? Such as a cow clap? Also known as a cow pat? (Not sure that's a common usage outside Yorkshire, actually.) Hee hee I thought it was only we Irish that called them Cow Claps. My mother is a great one for that saying . Sadly no to this

A clap skate? Hmm what's that when it's at home?

Oh surely we're not talking about a dose, are we? Oh I'm sad to say YES we are

Actually, VD = Vera Duckworth. Married to Jack.

Hehe. Ha Ha oh I wish I'd thought of that . The solution is going to be so boring after that.

I recall a funny trick question a guy asked in a pub. The question was to name as many Corrie characters as you could that started with an R. Everyone got Rita Fairclough, Reg Holdsworth & a few others. The guy claimed there were over 20 of them, R Jack , R Vera R Tommy etc.
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AC/DC's "The Jack"?
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AC/DC's "The Jack"? Spot on . The AC/DC studio version of their song The Jack is a seriously watered down version compared to the one they sing live. The chorus line "She's got the Jack" was originally "She's got the Clap". For obvious reasons they decided to play safe and change it. The studio version revolves around playing poker with and losing to a girl who claims to have never played before. If you read the lyrics and think about the songs alternative title the metaphor is pretty clear. The live version is altogether more upfront as to the true nature of the song.

AC/DC or more specifically Bon Scott are they only artists that to my knowledge, have written not one, but two songs which are about STDs.

****************Spoiler*************

Feeling like Paul Newman playing poker with Robert Shaw in The Sting I can now reveal my four Jacks

A place to Land - JFK Airport - JACK Kennedy
A one eyed man - JACK of Hearts or Spades
A man who didn't live up to his name - John Humble aka Wearside JACK
A substitution for Appluad - The JACK by AC/DC

Hope you enjoyed this little puzzle. Thanks to all who played and especially to Balin and Woodworm for killing it off.

Slainte!
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Just trying something

AC/DC The Jack Lyrics

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