| Author | Message | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3187 Registered: 1-2001 |
The fact that Jack could tie his shoe amused many including himself, but angered several others. | ||
| Firesparx (Firesparx)
New member Username: Firesparx Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2010 |
Jack human or animal? Is the shoe of the type meant to be tied/tieable? 'His' refer to Jack or another character? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3188 Registered: 1-2001 |
Jack human or animal? Human Is the shoe of the type meant to be tied/tieable? Yes 'His' refer to Jack Yes...or another character?...so no | ||
| Firesparx (Firesparx)
New member Username: Firesparx Post Number: 16 Registered: 11-2010 |
Singular shoe relevant? Does Jack usually wear/use this shoe? Does this have anything to do with an old or current tv show? Is the title of the puzzle less than 50% relevant? More than 50%? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3189 Registered: 1-2001 |
Singular shoe relevant? Yes, somewhat Does Jack usually wear/use this shoe? Yes - good q Does this have anything to do with an old or current tv show? Not that I'm aware of, no Is the title of the puzzle less than 50% relevant? More than 50%? Tough to answer - the title's relevance is of a low percentage (depending on how you mean this question), it's merely a reference to the action described in the puzzle itself | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8565 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the shoe his size? Abnormally large? Abnormally small? Is it a sneaker? Dress shoe? Could he tie one shoe but not the other? Jack - H? A? M? "Many" - H? A? M? "Others" - H? A? M? | ||
| Firesparx (Firesparx)
New member Username: Firesparx Post Number: 19 Registered: 11-2010 |
Thanks! Are others angered by the method by which Jack ties his somewhat singular shoe? Is Jack considered not old enough to be able to tie his somewhat singular shoe? Is Jack missing phalanges/hand(s)? Does the 'could' refer to ability or permission? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3190 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is the shoe his size? Yes Abnormally large? Abnormally small? Neither Is it a sneaker? Yes Dress shoe? No Could he tie one shoe but not the other? This is a good q...can you rephrase? Jack - H? A? M? Yes, 27 years old "Many" - H? Yes A? Maybe but not necessarily M? Yes, and almost certainly some F as well "Others" - H? A? M? Same answers | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3191 Registered: 1-2001 |
Are others angered by the method by which Jack ties his somewhat singular shoe? No, not the method Is Jack considered not old enough to be able to tie his somewhat singular shoe? Not the case (see below) Is Jack missing phalanges/hand(s)? No Does the 'could' refer to ability or permission? Good q - it does not refer to ability; the idea of permission is involved to some degree but there is a more fitting term | ||
| Firesparx (Firesparx)
New member Username: Firesparx Post Number: 21 Registered: 11-2010 |
Does Jack have only one foot for his somewhat singular sneaker? Hmmm. Allowance? Consent? Legality/regulation? Protocol? Tradition? Angered as in offended or as in jealous or as in frightened? Does Jack have servants who normally do the tying for him? Has Jack been given some sort of medical order not to attempt such actions? | ||
| Firesparx (Firesparx)
New member Username: Firesparx Post Number: 22 Registered: 11-2010 |
Does Jack have only one foot for his somewhat singular sneaker? Hmmm. Allowance? Consent? Legality/regulation? Protocol? Tradition? Angered as in offended or as in jealous or as in frightened? Does Jack have servants who normally do the tying for him? Has Jack been given some sort of medical order not to attempt such actions? | ||
| Firesparx (Firesparx)
New member Username: Firesparx Post Number: 23 Registered: 11-2010 |
le sigh Sorry about that--it also wouldn't let me delete the duplicate post. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3192 Registered: 1-2001 |
Does Jack have only one foot for his somewhat singular sneaker? Jack has two feet and two shoes (one shoe per foot), but in this case he only tied one of the shoes. Hmmm. Allowance? This is also implied, yes Consent? Also implied, yes Legality/regulation? Not relevant Protocol? Tradition? No to these Angered as in offended or as in jealous or as in frightened? Slightly offended but not jealous or frightened Does Jack have servants who normally do the tying for him? No Has Jack been given some sort of medical order not to attempt such actions? No | ||
| Firesparx (Firesparx)
New member Username: Firesparx Post Number: 25 Registered: 11-2010 |
Right/left relevant? | ||
| Firesparx (Firesparx)
New member Username: Firesparx Post Number: 26 Registered: 11-2010 |
Were the angry others treated to an unpleasant rear view when he did this? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3193 Registered: 1-2001 |
Right/left relevant? No Were the angry others treated to an unpleasant rear view when he did this? No, not relevant | ||
| Firesparx (Firesparx)
New member Username: Firesparx Post Number: 27 Registered: 11-2010 |
Were they angry at Jack or at those who 'allowed' him to tie his shoe? Was Jack intentionally playing to an audience? Did the length of his leg or arm have anything to do with the situation? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 289 Registered: 7-2010 |
Did he actually use his hands to tie his shoe? There is a trick that involves "tying" your shoe by rapidly shaking your foot although that's just a fake. Is that relevant? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3194 Registered: 1-2001 |
Were they angry at Jack No or at those who 'allowed' him to tie his shoe? Yes! Was Jack intentionally playing to an audience? No, but it probably seemed that way to some Did the length of his leg or arm have anything to do with the situation? No Did he actually use his hands to tie his shoe? Yes There is a trick that involves "tying" your shoe by rapidly shaking your foot although that's just a fake. Is that relevant? No | ||
| Firesparx (Firesparx)
New member Username: Firesparx Post Number: 28 Registered: 11-2010 |
Is 'authorize' a better term? Is the amusement sardonic (i.e., are Jack and others amused because they didn't think that those in authority would trust him to do so?) | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3195 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is 'authorize' a better term? No, but it's not far off Is the amusement sardonic (i.e., are Jack and others amused because they didn't think that those in authority would trust him to do so?) Yes, this is the reason for the amusement, and you have the right idea about Jack not thinking that others would permit this action, however the others are not in authority over Jack | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8568 Registered: 4-2010 |
Location relevant? Country? Would the amusement/anger still be provoked if Jack tied neither of his shoes? Both of them? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3196 Registered: 1-2001 |
Location relevant? Yes Country? Yes, and more specific Would the amusement/anger still be provoked if Jack tied neither of his shoes? No Both of them? Probably, yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8572 Registered: 4-2010 |
State relevant? City? Is a relevant event going on? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3197 Registered: 1-2001 |
State relevant? City? These aren't helpful, try another kind of specific location (and see below) Is a relevant event going on? Yes | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 292 Registered: 7-2010 |
Was it the tying in particular that angered the people? Or was it merely the act of squatting down? Would they have been angry if Jack had picked up something from the ground, for example? Are the positions of the involved persons relevant? If so: Had Jack been standing before he tied his shoe? Or sitting? Same questions about the people who were amused and those who were angered. | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 293 Registered: 7-2010 |
Was Jack in somebody else's way when he was tying his shoe? Was he in a crowd and bumped into other persons while he was squatting down? Are cameras involved? Was he tying his shoe exactly where a camera was supposed to be placed? Or in front of the camera? Was he filmed? Maybe even blocking the view to whatever event was going on? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3198 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was it the tying in particular that angered the people? Something about it, yes Or was it merely the act Yes...of squatting down?...but he didn't squat down, although if he had the reaction would have been the same. Would they have been angry if Jack had picked up something from the ground, for example? Perhaps, although this isn't really possible in this situation Are the positions of the involved persons relevant? Yes If so: Had Jack been standing before he tied his shoe? Yes Or sitting? No Same questions about the people who were amused and those who were angered. A safe assumption is that the majority were sitting and a minority of them were standing | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8575 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did Jack sit down to tie his shoes? On the ground? Could the people be considered a crowd? Were they there to see someone? Jack? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 294 Registered: 7-2010 |
I posted a new set of questions right before you posted the answeres to the previous ones, btw :-) | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3199 Registered: 1-2001 |
I posted a new set of questions right before you posted the answeres to the previous ones, btw :-) Thanks for the note! Was Jack in somebody else's way when he was tying his shoe? No Was he in a crowd and bumped into other persons while he was squatting down? No Are cameras involved? Yes, secondarily Was he tying his shoe exactly where a camera was supposed to be placed? No Or in front of the camera? Yes, but explore this Was he filmed? Yes Maybe even blocking the view to whatever event was going on? No, certainly not! Did Jack sit down to tie his shoes? On the ground? No to both Could the people be considered a crowd? Some of them, yes Were they there to see someone? Jack? Yes, Jack and others | ||
| Firesparx (Firesparx)
New member Username: Firesparx Post Number: 29 Registered: 11-2010 |
Public figure much? So someone was embarrassed that he was not prevented from doing this knotty thing in public/during an event that included either the press or quite a few teenagers with camera phones and access to YouTube? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8578 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he bend over to tie his shoes? Did he accidentally reveal something by bending over (wow, that came out wrong - "did people see something behind him when he bent over" is what I meant)? If not this, did he kneel to tie his shoes? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3200 Registered: 1-2001 |
Public figure much? What do you mean? So someone was embarrassed No, nobody was embarrassed that he was not prevented from doing this knotty thing in public/during an event that included either the press Yes, the event did include the press...or quite a few teenagers...probably...with camera phones and access to YouTube?...yes Did he bend over to tie his shoes? Yes Did he accidentally reveal something by bending over (wow, that came out wrong - "did people see something behind him when he bent over" is what I meant)? No If not this, did he kneel to tie his shoes? No, he stood upright and then bent over at the waist to tie his shoe | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8599 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was Jack filmed? Intentionally? Was Jack a celebrity? The press? Were the press angry? Were the teenagers amused? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3201 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was Jack filmed? Yes Intentionally? Yes Was Jack a celebrity? Yes The press? Were the press angry? Hmm, I'd say they were 'amazed' but not angry Were the teenagers amused? Some may have been, others not | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8605 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the amusement due to seeing a big-name celebrity doing an ordinary thing? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3202 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was the amusement due to seeing a big-name celebrity doing an ordinary thing? Well yes but there is more to it - it's not simply that he did an ordinary thing, but when he did it | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8615 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he do it immediately after a performance? After something awesome? Something terrible? Scandalous? Jack's exact occupation relevant? Is he an actor? Singer? Athlete? Entertainer of some sort? | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 1221 Registered: 6-2008 |
Was the amusement due to the fact that him needing to tie his shoe showed he had not come into the room impeccably dressed already? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3203 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did he do it immediately after a performance? Not after... After something awesome? No Something terrible? No Scandalous? No HINT: He didn't do it after anything Jack's exact occupation relevant? Yes Is he an actor? Singer? Athlete? This Entertainer of some sort? Well some may say that he's also this depending on how they view athletes Was the amusement due to the fact that him needing to tie his shoe showed he had not come into the room impeccably dressed already? No | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1643 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did he stop to do it while doing his sport? If he's say...a runner, and he stopped during the race to tie his shoe? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3205 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did he stop to do it while doing his sport? YES If he's say...a runner, and he stopped during the race to tie his shoe? This is exactly what he did, but he isn't a runner (try another sport)... | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1645 Registered: 9-2010 |
baseball? football? (American) soccer? (not-American football) tennis? rugby? cricket? lacrosse? ...Yeah, if none of those are it, I don't know, lol. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8671 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he tie his shoe during a pause in the action (say, between plays in football)? Or while something was going on? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3206 Registered: 1-2001 |
baseball? football? (American) soccer? (not-American football) tennis? rugby? cricket? lacrosse? ...Yeah, if none of those are it, I don't know, lol. It's none of these, but it's a common sport in the USA Did he tie his shoe during a pause in the action (say, between plays in football)? No, it was...while something was going on? ...this! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1648 Registered: 9-2010 |
*racks brain for more sports and only comes up with one* Golf? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3207 Registered: 1-2001 |
Golf? Not there yet... | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 469 Registered: 2-2009 |
You couldn't think of hockey, Kaylee (not that I think it actually will be that)? For shame! Oh, also basketball... :-) hockey? basketball? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1649 Registered: 9-2010 |
Hockey's for places that actually have ice. =P But basketball got left out? Ah well, I'm short so I don't think much of it, and anyway my home city doesn't have a basketball team. =P Thanks for finding those though, Kalira. | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3208 Registered: 1-2001 |
hockey? No, but... basketball? <---- That's it! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1652 Registered: 9-2010 |
So...was he, say, standing in front of the basketball hoop and when an opposing player went to make the shot, he realized his shoe was untied, bent down to tie it, the shot was made and when he stood up a second later the ball bounced off his head and into (or away from) the basket? (I have no idea if this is anywhere close to right...also I've never seen a professional basketball game, the most I've seen is my uncle and cousin messing around with a basketball in the driveway) | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 301 Registered: 7-2010 |
During the game? Was he on the field? While his team was playing offense? Defense? Did it happen in the beginning of the game? Sometime in the middle? Near the end? Was his team losing? Winning? Was it pretty much of a tie and his attention was actually really important? Or was it rather the contrary? Him being so sure of losing that he thought it wouldn't matter if he didn't focus on the game anymore? And his teammates and fans of his team were angry? Or was he so confident of winning that he could afford not paying attention? And the other team and their fans were the ones who were angry? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3209 Registered: 1-2001 |
So...was he, say, standing in front of the basketball hoop and when an opposing player went to make the shot, he realized his shoe was untied, bent down to tie it, the shot was made and when he stood up a second later the ball bounced off his head and into (or away from) the basket? No, it's somewhat the opposite of this (I have no idea if this is anywhere close to right...also I've never seen a professional basketball game, the most I've seen is my uncle and cousin messing around with a basketball in the driveway) Not far off, just switch a key piece of the info During the game? Yes Was he on the field? Yes While his team was playing offense? Yes Defense? So no Did it happen in the beginning of the game? Sometime in the middle? Near the end? Yes, it was near the end of the game Was his team losing? No Winning? Yes Was it pretty much of a tie and his attention was actually really important? No, his team had a good size lead Or was it rather the contrary? Somewhat Him being so sure of losing No, not sure of losing... that he thought it wouldn't matter if he didn't focus on the game anymore? Well his actions seem to indicate that he may have been thinking this very thing And his teammates and fans of his team were angry? Not of his team, no... Or was he so confident of winning that he could afford not paying attention? Yes, at least his actions indicate this possible mindset And the other team and their fans were the ones who were angry? YES | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8684 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did he make a shot, then tie his shoe? As a form of taunting? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3210 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did he make a shot, then tie his shoe? No As a form of taunting? No Not much left to discover except for Jack's specific actions before and after tying his shoe and how it affected game play | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8750 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was he controlling the ball before he tied his shoe? After? Did Jack receive a technical foul for tying his shoe? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3212 Registered: 1-2001 |
Was he controlling the ball before he tied his shoe? YES, and also...After?...yes Did Jack receive a technical foul for tying his shoe? No The key to it was that he had possession of the ball during live gameplay when he opted to stop, tuck the ball under his arm (with the clock running), and bend over and tie his shoe. This gets us to the... SPOILER The NBA game was televised live (this actually happened, and the player's name is actually Jack), and the commentators could not believe that none of the opposing players tried to steal the ball, they simply watched him tie his shoe. Shortly after he did this the clock was stopped. The commentators continued to speak critically about the opposing players who watched the stunt, and there were some boos from the crowd whose team was not only losing badly to Jack's team, but apparently had a bunch of players with no clue about what to do during a "shoe-tying." | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8753 Registered: 4-2010 |
WOW. Un-be-lievable. Makes for a great puzzle though! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8755 Registered: 4-2010 |
WOW. Un-be-lievable. Makes for a great puzzle though! | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3214 Registered: 1-2001 |
Thanks! |
