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Samurai776 (Samurai776)
New member Username: Samurai776
Post Number: 38 Registered: 6-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:12 pm: |      |
He tried to make it bigger, so it ended up smaller. He = HAM. it1 = it2. |
Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato
Post Number: 304 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:23 pm: |      |
It = A computer file? Something he bought and then modified? Or something he created himself? A piece of clothing? A piece of pottery? Or woodwork? Did he try to make it larger by adding more of the material that "it" was made of? Or by attaching some other item to it? And that other item fell off and part of the original item along with it? Or did he decide to take said item away for some reason and damaged the original item in the process? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 1653 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:24 pm: |      |
May we refer to the HAM as David? (it is a good name, I think) Is the "it" a food item? clothing? something electronic? Something alive? Something formerly alive? |
Samurai776 (Samurai776)
New member Username: Samurai776
Post Number: 39 Registered: 6-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:25 pm: |      |
It = A computer file? Yope Something he bought and then modified? Or something he created himself? A piece of clothing? A piece of pottery? Or woodwork? No to the rest Did he try to make it larger by adding more of the material that "it" was made of?Yope Or by attaching some other item to it? And that other item fell off and part of the original item along with it? Or did he decide to take said item away for some reason and damaged the original item in the process? No to the rest |
Samurai776 (Samurai776)
New member Username: Samurai776
Post Number: 40 Registered: 6-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:25 pm: |      |
May we refer to the HAM as David? (it is a good name, I think) Sure. Is the "it" a food item? clothing? something electronic?This, no to the rest Something alive? Something formerly alive? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 1654 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:31 pm: |      |
Is it a computer? part of a computer? hard drive? other drive? motherboard? that David damaged somehow? |
Samurai776 (Samurai776)
New member Username: Samurai776
Post Number: 41 Registered: 6-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:33 pm: |      |
Is it a computer? part of a computer? hard drive? other drive? motherboard? that David damaged somehow? None of these. |
Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato
Post Number: 305 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:35 pm: |      |
Was it something that exists only virtually? Was it a picture? Did he try to make it larger by combining several pictures? By adding lines/shapes/text/filters? By making the canvas larger? By zooming? By changing the resolution? But he ended up accidently erasing part of it? Or did he cut away part of it? Or changed it so that it became really pixelated? And then he accidently saved it? And he didn't have a copy of the original version? Was the file a text file? A calculation? A presentation? And he accidently deleted part of the already existing information? Was it a music file? A video? Are computer games relevant? |
Samurai776 (Samurai776)
New member Username: Samurai776
Post Number: 42 Registered: 6-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:37 pm: |      |
Was it something that exists only virtually? Absolutely. Was it a picture? Did he try to make it larger by combining several pictures? By adding lines/shapes/text/filters? By making the canvas larger? By zooming? By changing the resolution? But he ended up accidently erasing part of it? Or did he cut away part of it? Or changed it so that it became really pixelated? And then he accidently saved it? And he didn't have a copy of the original version? Not a picture. Was the file a text file? A calculation? Yes-ish, no to the rest A presentation? And he accidently deleted part of the already existing information? Was it a music file? A video? Are computer games relevant? None of these. |
Samurai776 (Samurai776)
New member Username: Samurai776
Post Number: 43 Registered: 6-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:45 pm: |      |
Are computer games relevant? Actually, a similar situation to David's is well-known to happen in certain games, but not always to the exact same effect. This knowledge is not needed to solve the puzzle. |
Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato
Post Number: 307 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:49 pm: |      |
Was it an Excel (or similar program) file? Or some other table? Did he want to make it bigger by adding columns? Or adding rows? Or making calculations based on the available information? Or simply by zooming so that the text is easier to read? So he didn't delete information, right? Did the file become smaller because he zoomed away, which made the text smaller on the screen? Did he "hide" columns? And thought he accidently deleted them even though they simply weren't visible? Are the single values relevant? Is changing the formats of the values? Or the units? Did he convert the entire file into a different format? Did he intend to make it smaller? Or was that an accident? |
Samurai776 (Samurai776)
New member Username: Samurai776
Post Number: 44 Registered: 6-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:53 pm: |      |
Was it an Excel (or similar program) file? Or some other table? Did he want to make it bigger by adding columns? Or adding rows? Or making calculations based on the available information? Or simply by zooming so that the text is easier to read? No tables involved. So he didn't delete information, right? Did the file become smaller because he zoomed away, which made the text smaller on the screen? Did he "hide" columns? And thought he accidently deleted them even though they simply weren't visible? {Nothing was deleted, only changed.} Are the single values relevant? Yes, one specific value. Is changing the formats of the values? No. Or the units? No. Did he convert the entire file into a different format? No. Did he intend to make it smaller? Or was that an accident? Accident. |
Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato
Post Number: 308 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 10:27 pm: |      |
Was the value in question the overall result of the entire calculation? Did he do a miscalculation? Did he delete one digit or several thereof? Or did he forget to write down a digit? A zero? Did he put the decimal point in the wrong place? Did he transpose digits? |
Samurai776 (Samurai776)
New member Username: Samurai776
Post Number: 45 Registered: 6-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 10:42 pm: |      |
Was the value in question the overall result of the entire calculation? Yes. Did he do a miscalculation? No, the math was done by the computer. Did he delete one digit or several thereof? Or did he forget to write down a digit? A zero? Did he put the decimal point in the wrong place? Did he transpose digits? No typos involved. |
Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato
Post Number: 309 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 10:53 pm: |      |
Did he use a wrong algorithm for calculating the result? Was there an error in the data the calculation was based on? Did he use the wrong data? Was the calculation itself correct but he didn't interpret the result correctly? Or did he do something with it that makes another person misinterpret it (like, the calculation was based on the data for a Group A but he accidently wrote that it was made for Group B)? |
Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato
Post Number: 310 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 10:58 pm: |      |
And if the algorithm was wrong, did he accidently subtract/divide/extract a root/whatever makes a result smaller instead of adding/multiplying/raising a number to the xth power/whatever makes a number larger? Is the application of brackets relevant? |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 1228 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 12:12 am: |      |
Going off the fact that something similar happens in some games, is overflow relevant? If the number of bits (or decimal digits) in the number exceeded the allocated space, the most significant digits could be truncated off, giving a lower result. So in the case of the game, if the maximum score is 9999, but someone has 9900 points and scores an additional 101, then the score will appear to decrease to 1 point. Anything like this? |
Samurai776 (Samurai776)
New member Username: Samurai776
Post Number: 46 Registered: 6-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 3:27 am: |      |
Did he use a wrong algorithm for calculating the result? Was there an error in the data the calculation was based on? Did he use the wrong data? Was the calculation itself correct but he didn't interpret the result correctly? Or did he do something with it that makes another person misinterpret it (like, the calculation was based on the data for a Group A but he accidently wrote that it was made for Group B)? None of these. And if the algorithm was wrong, did he accidently subtract/divide/extract a root/whatever makes a result smaller instead of adding/multiplying/raising a number to the xth power/whatever makes a number larger? Is the application of brackets relevant? No. Going off the fact that something similar happens in some games, is overflow relevant? Yes. If the number of bits (or decimal digits) in the number exceeded the allocated space, the most significant digits could be truncated off, giving a lower result. So in the case of the game, if the maximum score is 9999, but someone has 9900 points and scores an additional 101, then the score will appear to decrease to 1 point. Anything like this? Exactly, which means this is already a ************SPOILER**************** In computing, numbers cannot be extended forever. The number can only reach a certain point (determined by the compiler), and attempts to increase the number beyond that will result in either a 0 or a very negative number. 2 examples are Vincent Valentine's Death Penalty Glitch in Final Fantasy 7, and the Marowak Attack glitch in Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal. |