| Author | Message | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3095 Registered: 1-2007 |
Good morning puzzle people. Their second investment was a lot wiser than their first. Please explain | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1046 Registered: 9-2009 |
Their 1 = their 2, correct? They = H? A? M? Number = 2? 3? less than 10? less than 1000? Investment = money? some other thing? Wiser in the sense that benefited them more? To some other people? Time elapsed between the two investments: hours? days? months? years? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3099 Registered: 1-2007 |
Their 1 = their 2, correct? Yes They = H? A? M? Human Adults of both sexes Number = 2? 3? less than 10? less than 1000? This Investment = money? Yes some other thing? Wiser in the sense that benefited them more? Yes To some other people? Time elapsed between the two investments: hours? days? months? years? Years but would vary for each individual | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2432 Registered: 3-2006 |
Banks? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8821 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was their second investment in something different from their first investment? Stocks relevant? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3100 Registered: 1-2007 |
Banks? You're welcome ;o) sorry that's a yes Was their second investment in something different from their first investment? Yes but... Stocks relevant? Indeed | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 911 Registered: 5-2009 |
Did they lose money on their first investment? Win? Win money on the second one? Lose? Is the first investment an investment in stocks? Stock options? The second one? Going short relevant? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3102 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did they lose money on their first investment? Oh Lord yes Win? Win money on the second one? not so much win but they could have recouped some of their earlier losses Lose? Is the first investment an investment in stocks? Yes Stock options? The second one? No Going short relevant? No. There are no (capitalism at it's worst) technicalities at play here i.e. knowledge of how share trading works is not required to solve | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8839 Registered: 4-2010 |
Second investment - did they bet on something? A horse? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 2448 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did they invest in something that literally ascends into the sky? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3103 Registered: 1-2007 |
Second investment - did they bet on something? A horse? No to both Did they invest in something that literally ascends into the sky? No | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1744 Registered: 9-2010 |
Quote: Rbruma: Less than 1000? This So...between 10 and 1000? That could be anything from 11 to 999, you know...*grin* So do you care to elaborate?(inserts LTPF list of integers between 11 and 999)? Or is it not all that important? (Why am I asking? It's the LTPF, every minute detail is important.) | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3105 Registered: 1-2007 |
Quote: Rbruma: Less than 1000? This So...between 10 and 1000? That could be anything from 11 to 999, you know...*grin* So do you care to elaborate?(inserts LTPF list of integers between 11 and 999)? Or is it not all that important? (Why am I asking? It's the LTPF, every minute detail is important About 30 or so. It's somewhat relevant how many people there are | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8848 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was their first investment in stocks? Was their second? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3106 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was their first investment in stocks? yes Was their second? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8860 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant what the particular stocks were? Did they invest in one stock? Multiple stocks? The same stock? Did the stock(s) go up after the investment? Down? WAY down? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3108 Registered: 1-2007 |
Relevant what the particular stocks were? Somewhat yes Did they invest in one stock? Yes Multiple stocks? well in truth they may have done but irrelevant The same stock? Yes Did the stock(s) go up after the investment? Down? WAY down? Way way way down | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 932 Registered: 5-2009 |
LTPF list of continents, please. LTPF list of centuries, please. The second investment was not in stocks. Into something else you could buy at an average bank? Something which you can't buy at an average bank but wouldn't be surprised to see as an investment of, say, a big insurance company (e.g. a forest, a majority participation in a company)? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3110 Registered: 1-2007 |
LTPF list of continents, please. LTPF list of centuries, please. Continent = Europe , a fair green isle very close to my own heart. Present Day. The second investment was not in stocks. Into something else you could buy at an average bank? No Something which you can't buy at an average bank but wouldn't be surprised to see as an investment of, say, a big insurance company (e.g. a forest, a majority participation in a company)? It's something you can't buy at a bank or any financial services provider. However it is an increasingly popular form of investment | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8884 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the investment in an item? Like oil or pork bellies (which I have never understood the point of)? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 871 Registered: 8-2005 |
Was the second investment in people? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3112 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the investment in an item? Like oil or pork bellies (which I have never understood the point of)? No it's not a commodity Was the second investment in people? No Hint : The second investment is somehow linked to the first | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 874 Registered: 8-2005 |
Was the first investment long term? Was the second? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1766 Registered: 9-2010 |
Potatoes? (As it's Ireland, which you said without technically saying. Also, I like Ireland. I wish I could have gone there with my dad too and not just England and Wales, last year) | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1755 Registered: 11-2003 |
Was the second investment in property? Antiques? Art? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3114 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was the first investment long term? It was supposed to be but alas.... Was the second? Again it could be but there was an opportunity to turn a quick buck Potatoes? (As it's Ireland, which you said without technically saying. Also, I like Ireland. I wish I could have gone there with my dad too and not just England and Wales, last year)Ha Ha not potatoes. And yes you should come to Ireland, despite our current troubles you're still guaranteed a warm welcome Was the second investment in property? Antiques? Art? Art . Well done | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8906 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they invest in works of art? In certain artists? Just one? Relevant the medium of art? Painting? Sculpting? Something nonorthodox? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3116 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did they invest in works of art? In certain artists? Just one? just one Relevant the medium of art? Yes Painting? Partly Sculpting? Something nonorthodox? partly this too | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 878 Registered: 8-2005 |
Is it a modern artist? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3119 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is it a modern artist? Yes although it depends on your definition of modern art. The artwork in question is pretty unique i'd imagine | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 879 Registered: 8-2005 |
Banksie? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3120 Registered: 1-2007 |
Banksie? No but nice thinking | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8959 Registered: 4-2010 |
Graffiti art? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3122 Registered: 1-2007 |
Graffiti art? No. I guess this work would not fall into a particular genre | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8960 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant what is being painted? Body painting? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3123 Registered: 1-2007 |
Relevant what is being painted? If you mean the subject of the painting then yes Body painting? But not this | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8961 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant what the medium of painting is? What the paint is made out of? Subject of the painting - people? Places? Objects? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3124 Registered: 1-2007 |
Relevant what the medium of painting is? Yes What the paint is made out of? no Subject of the painting - people? A person, and objects Places? Objects? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 8978 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are existing objects being painted? Are the objects being repainted? Medium - buildings? Are the paintings overly large? Small? Postage stamps relevant? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3126 Registered: 1-2007 |
Are existing objects being painted? No Are the objects being repainted? No Medium - buildings? No Are the paintings overly large? There's only one actual painting and it's normal sized Small? Postage stamps relevant? No to rest | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3127 Registered: 1-2007 |
Hint : The painting is a normal canvas painting but which incorporates some other form of art. How the artist sourced his materials is relevant | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9009 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does it incorporate drawing? Sculpting? Mosaic? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3131 Registered: 1-2007 |
Does it incorporate drawing? Sculpting? Mosaic? No to all but Mosiac isn't a mile away | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9019 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the other form of art involve tiles? Some other detritus? Random stuff? Wire? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3133 Registered: 1-2007 |
Does the other form of art involve tiles? Some other detritus? Random stuff? Wire? no to all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9076 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the art consist of any form of painting? Of sculpting? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3134 Registered: 1-2007 |
Does the art consist of any form of painting? partly yes Of sculpting? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9098 Registered: 4-2010 |
Painting certain objects? Stones? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1809 Registered: 9-2010 |
Pet rocks? (Completely random thought...) | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3137 Registered: 1-2007 |
Painting certain objects? Stones? No, it's a canvas painting but incorporates some other material Pet rocks? (Completely random thought...) No I'm afraid not unless you meant Peter rocks which of course would be a yes | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 1814 Registered: 9-2010 |
Well, as Peter means rock, I am quite sure he does :-D | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9121 Registered: 4-2010 |
The other material - something man-made? Natural? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3138 Registered: 1-2007 |
The other material - something man-made? Natural? Man made. Think about the connection between the first investment and the second | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9204 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the art made from the worthless stocks? Is what the stock was in relevant? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3139 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was the art made from the worthless stocks? YES Is what the stock was in relevant? Unsurpringly it was Banking stock. You should be able to piece this together now | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9213 Registered: 4-2010 |
OK, so they first invested in banking stock, which is an almost guaranteed bad investment in this economy, and as expected they lost money. Correct so far? Did other people who'd had banking stock become disgusted with it? So they painted all over the stocks? Or did they paint with the stock papers? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9214 Registered: 4-2010 |
Continuing, did the "stock art" sell well? Just fair? Because of the common disgust in the economy? And so the investors, by investing in the "stock art," made some of their money back? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3142 Registered: 1-2007 |
OK, so they first invested in banking stock, which is an almost guaranteed bad investment in this economy, and as expected they lost money. Correct so far? Yes they lost everything the stock is no longer quoted and therefore worthless Did other people who'd had banking stock become disgusted with it? I'm sure everyone did but not really relevant So they painted all over the stocks? No Or did they paint with the stock papers? Not quite only one artist produced this work Continuing, did the "stock art" sell well? In truth it only made a little money Just fair? This i suppose Because of the common disgust in the economy? No And so the investors, by investing in the "stock art," made some of their money back? That's in theory what happened but there's more to be discovered | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9243 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the artist collect all the worthless stock paper to make the art? Was the artwork put on display? And gained a bit of a following? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3144 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did the artist collect all the worthless stock paper to make the art? Yes Was the artwork put on display? Yes And gained a bit of a following? Yes I think you've done enough for me to declare ****************SPOILER******************* Irish artist Frank O'Dea appealed to shareholders of the now defunct Anglo Irish Bank to send him their worthless share certificates so that he could incorporate them into a new painting "The Anglo Irish Bank Shareholder" that he was working on. Here's the a picture of the painting Each shareholder who sent in a cert was given a print of the original painting which were for sale generally at €20. The original painting was sold to a private collecter. The painting seemed to capture the public's imagination as a symbolic image of post collapse Ireland and the prints were soon fetching over €200 on E-bay and similar sites. So even though shareholders lost their shirts on their original investment at least Mr O'Dea has earned them a small consolation windfall. Thanks for sticking with this Balin. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9259 Registered: 4-2010 |
No words can describe that other than great...that is both a great idea, and a great way to help out the people who got screwed over by the economy. And a great puzzle, at that! | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3146 Registered: 1-2007 |
Thanks for the kind comments. |
