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Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 11:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When he heard news that a stranger carrying a gun had entered the building and started to shoot, he was happy, even though he knew he was in danger, and he had never met the person.

All "he"s are the same, and "a stranger" = "the person"
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Was he in danger of being shot? by the stranger? using the gun? (just trying to make sure there's nothing misleading here--like the stranger is shooting pictures of some unsafe working conditions, and just happens to have a gun)

Is he HAF? the stranger?
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Was he in danger of being shot? by the stranger? using the gun? (just trying to make sure there's nothing misleading here--like the stranger is shooting pictures of some unsafe working conditions, and just happens to have a gun) yes to all

Is he HAF? the stranger? I assume you mean HAM? If so, yes/no/yes for both
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Stranger - a child? Infant? Teenager?

"He" - a child? Infant? Teenager?

Gun - a firearm? Replica? BB gun? Air-soft gun? Squirt gun? Dart gun? Cap gun? Is the gun loaded?
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Paintball gun?
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Stranger - a child? Infant? Teenager? this

"He" - a child? Infant? Teenager? this

Gun - a firearm? this Replica? BB gun? Air-soft gun? Squirt gun? Dart gun? Cap gun? Is the gun loaded? yes

Paintball gun? so no
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Building - a school? Is the "he" part of the plot of the shooting?
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Building - a school? yes Is the "he" part of the plot of the shooting? no
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Does "he" think that he is going to die? Does he want to die?

Does he think that the shooting is going to last for a long time? Is he planning to commit a crime? To kill someone? And blame it on the school shooter?
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Does "he" think that he is going to die? irrel Does he want to die? no

Does he think that the shooting is going to last for a long time? irrel Is he planning to commit a crime? no To kill someone? no And blame it on the school shooter? no with a slight ish
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Does he want someone to be killed? Did he know that the shooting was going to happen?
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Does he want someone to be killed? Did he know that the shooting was going to happen? no to both
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Does he think that he will have a smaller chance of being killed than others? A greater chance?
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Does he think that he will have a smaller chance of being killed than others? A greater chance? no to both
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Does he feel calm because of something he thinks will happen? Will not happen? Because of who the shooter is?
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Does he feel calm because of something he thinks will happen? this Will not happen? Because of who the shooter is? and this
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Does he know the shooter personally? Relevant his own location in the school? Relevant the shooter's?
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Does he know the shooter personally? no, he had never met the shooter Relevant his own location in the school? no Relevant the shooter's? no
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Is the shooter a popular student? A decidedly unpopular one? Is the shooter a student, period? At that school?
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Is the shooter a popular student? yope A decidedly unpopular one? no Is the shooter a student, period? yes At that school? irrel
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Is the shooter well-known? At the school? For something good? Bad (other than the shooting, of course)?
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Can we call the shooter Harvey and the other student Alejandro?
The yope on popular student - is Harvey a student but not popular? A student who is popular in some capacity besides being a student (like if it were Brad Pitt's son)? Is Harvey an athlete at the school? The president of the student body? Was Harvey attempting an actual shooting with reals guns being used in an attempt to kill people? Or were they filming a movie? And Alejandro was excited because he'd get to be in the movie?
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Is the shooter well-known? yesish At the school? irrel For something good? yope Bad (other than the shooting, of course)? yope

Can we call the shooter Harvey and the other student Alejandro? sure
The yope on popular student - is Harvey a student but not popular? yope A student who is popular in some capacity besides being a student (like if it were Brad Pitt's son)? well it's irrel how popular he is, but he is for svv of popular Is Harvey an athlete at the school? irrel The president of the student body? irrel Was Harvey attempting an actual shooting with reals guns being used in an attempt to kill people? yes Or were they filming a movie? no And Alejandro was excited because he'd get to be in the movie? good idea though
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Is Harvey's motive for the shooting relevant?

Does Harvey want to kill any specific person? Or is this just a random shooting?

Does Harvey know Alejandro personally? Has he ever met Alejandro? Heard of him?

Does Alejandro know Harvey personally? Has he ever met Harvey? Heard of him?
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Is Harvey's motive for the shooting relevant? no

Does Harvey want to kill any specific person? Or is this just a random shooting? irrel

Does Harvey know Alejandro personally? Has he ever met Alejandro? Heard of him? no to all but irrel

Does Alejandro know Harvey personally? Has he ever met Harvey? Heard of him? this, no to others
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Did most students at the school know Alejandro? Know Harvey? You say Alejandro is a student, but does he actually attend school? Or is he a truant? Was this high school? College? Middle school? Elementary school?
Was there some other emergency going on at the time Harvey started to shoot? And the shooting would call attention to the emergency as well? Is it something along the lines of the story where the guy was mad that the police weren't coming after someone broke into his house, so he called them again and said he found the burglars and was about to shoot them? So the police came? So along the same lines, Alejandro wanted the cops to come due to some other incident? And the shooting meant the cops would come lickety-split?
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Did most students at the school know Alejandro? irrel Know Harvey? irrel You say Alejandro is a student, but does he actually attend school? irrel Or is he a truant? irrel Was this high school? this College? Middle school? Elementary school?
Was there some other emergency going on at the time Harvey started to shoot? no And the shooting would call attention to the emergency as well? no Is it something along the lines of the story where the guy was mad that the police weren't coming after someone broke into his house, so he called them again and said he found the burglars and was about to shoot them? So the police came? So along the same lines, Alejandro wanted the cops to come due to some other incident? And the shooting meant the cops would come lickety-split? good guess, but no
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Is Alejandro happy because of something he knows for sure? Because of something he thinks will happen? Will not?
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Is Alejandro happy because of something he knows for sure? somewhere between this … Because of something he thinks will happen? … and this Will not?
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Something he's pretty sure will happen? But doesn't know for certain?
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Something he's pretty sure will happen? But doesn't know for certain? yes to both
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The "something" - does it involve himself? Harvey? Any other people? Does it involve someone dying?
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The "something" - does it involve himself? yesish Harvey? yes Any other people? yes Does it involve someone dying? no
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Does it involve any sort of injury? Crime? Does he think that people will die? That no one will die?

Could you please recap?
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Does it involve any sort of injury? yes for svv of "injury" Crime? yes, but not besides Harvey's Does he think that people will die? irrel That no one will die? irrel

Could you please recap? sure

**********RECAP**********

When Alejandro, a student of a high school, hears the news that Harvey, a student of whom he has heard but whom he has never met, he is happy, not because of the fact that people are going to die, but because something else will happen involving Harvey, yesishly Alejandro, and someone else.
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Svv-injury: death? Of Harvey? Does he think that Harvey is going to be killed? Kill himself? Get arrested?
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The someone else = H? A? M? F? If it's male can we call him Charles? And if it is female, may we refer to her as Mindy? Did Alejandro believe that Charles/Mindy would be injured? Killed? Shot? Die some other way? Was Charles/Mindy in danger prior to the shooting? Is Charles/Mindy a student? Is Charles/Mindy related to Alejandro? To Harvey? Are Harvey and Alejandro related? Is Charles/Mindy a teacher? God? The pope? Godzilla?
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Svv-injury: death? no Of Harvey? so no Does he think that Harvey is going to be killed? and no Kill himself? and no Get arrested? but yes to this one

The someone else = H? yes A? no M? F? this If it's male can we call him Charles? And if it is female, may we refer to her as Mindy? sure Did Alejandro believe that Charles/Mindy would be injured? Killed? Shot? Die some other way? no to all Was Charles/Mindy in danger prior to the shooting? possibly but irrel Is Charles/Mindy a student? yes Is Charles/Mindy related to Alejandro? no To Harvey? noish Are Harvey and Alejandro related? no Is Charles/Mindy a teacher? no God? no The pope? no ... Godzilla? you must be really bored
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I've always wanted to see what would happen if I asked random questions.... Maybe I'll try again someday.

Had Harvey committed a crime prior to the shooting? Had he been arrested for it? Did he escape from jail? Or is he a fugitive? And now they'd arrest him and charge him with the previous crime? You say "noish" to whether Mindy is related to Harvey. So were the related at one point? Boyfriend/girlfriend? If so, are they still boyfriend/girlfriend? Does Alejandro's feeling of happiness have anything to do with Mindy? Or is Mindy only indirectly relevant? Would this work if Mindy were male? (if dating is relevant, keep everyone's sexual orientations the same instead of saying "Well if Harvey were gay...") Was Mindy in danger as a result of the shooting? Was she a hostage? Of Harvey? Or was she being held hostage by someone else? In the school? And Harvey was attempting to free her? Alcohol/drugs relevant? Gangs? Bullying? School psychologists/social workers? (Just thought I'd ask since these are often relevant in school violence)
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Had Harvey committed a crime prior to the shooting? no Had he been arrested for it? so no Did he escape from jail? no Or is he a fugitive? no And now they'd arrest him and charge him with the previous crime? no You say "noish" to whether Mindy is related to Harvey. So were the related at one point? not really, but the next couple of questions should clear this up Boyfriend/girlfriend? yes If so, are they still boyfriend/girlfriend? yes, so BLOOPERishly, they are related for svv of related Does Alejandro's feeling of happiness have anything to do with Mindy? yes Or is Mindy only indirectly relevant? define "indirectly" Would this work if Mindy were male? no (if dating is relevant, keep everyone's sexual orientations the same instead of saying "Well if Harvey were gay...") Was Mindy in danger as a result of the shooting? irrel Was she a hostage? no Of Harvey? Or was she being held hostage by someone else? In the school? she was in the school, though And Harvey was attempting to free her? no Alcohol/drugs relevant? no Gangs? no Bullying? no School psychologists/social workers? no (Just thought I'd ask since these are often relevant in school violence)
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Does Alejandro assume that since Harvey is now shooting people, Mindy will break up with him? And Alejandro would then be "in with a chance," so to say?
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Does Alejandro assume that since Harvey is now shooting people, Mindy will break up with him? And Alejandro would then be "in with a chance," so to say? YES

Wow, that was a bit quicker than expected. Okay, then ...

**********SPOILER**********

Alejandro is a student in high school who is attracted to Mindy, another student. Mindy, however, is the girlfriend of Harvey, another student whom Alejandro has always considered to be a bit of a bully. So when Alejandro learns that Harvey has broken into the school with a gun, he is happy, because he knows that Harvey will be hauled off to jail (or commit suicide), Mindy will be forced to leave him, and thus Mindy will be single again, giving Alejandro a chance at starting a relationship.

Congrats to Balin for figuring it out, as well as Biograd and Gregory for participating as well. Now, if you folks would please direct your attention to the mysteries of the funny name and rwawgacoping ...
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Very good puzzle!

Gregory's question about Mindy being Harvey's girlfriend was the clincher - it just clicked, I guess.

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