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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4088 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 4:16 am: |      |
Why were they called the Where-Did-You-See-Me people? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 1213 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 4:37 am: |      |
*frowns pensively* Is this a joke or a lateral puzzle? Haven't heard this one before, either way, so...bringing out the lot of usual questions and some others. True story? FYOI? FSEI? "They" = H/A/Ms? H/A/Fs? Mixed? Were they "people", i.e. humans? Or not human? Animals? Robots? Is this something on Earth or set somewhere else? If on Earth, LTPF lists of continents and decades, please? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4089 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 11:26 am: |      |
*frowns pensively* Is this a joke or a lateral puzzle? Both. More the former, I think, but a lot of mine are like that... Haven't heard this one before, either way, so...bringing out the lot of usual questions and some others. True story? Yes. Probably. Irr. FYOI? FSEI? "They" = H/A/Ms? These were the typical ones encountered. H/A/Fs? Mixed? This. Were they "people", i.e. humans? Yes. Or not human? Animals? Robots? Is this something on Earth Yes. or set somewhere else? If on Earth, LTPF lists of continents and decades, please? Africa, pretty much any time in the 1800s. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7893 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 1:24 pm: |      |
Is a pun relevant? Are guides relevant? Tribes? Trying to think if I may know this one or not...depending on the answers, I will email a possible $poyler. |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4090 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 8:48 pm: |      |
Is a pun relevant? No. Are guides relevant? No. Tribes? Yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7959 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 8:51 pm: |      |
In that case, on with the questions. Is tribal warfare relevant? Tribal religions? Camouflage relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4092 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 10:13 pm: |      |
Is tribal warfare relevant? Tribal religions? Camouflage relevant? None of these, with a slight ish on warfare. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 7976 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 3:25 am: |      |
Weaponry relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4094 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 10:57 am: |      |
Weaponry relevant? No. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 7983 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 12:08 pm: |      |
Neighboring tribes relevant? Any non-tribal people relevant? Missionaries? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4096 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 12:14 pm: |      |
Neighboring tribes relevant? Any non-tribal people relevant? Missionaries? Any of these would do. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7992 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 3:25 pm: |      |
Is it relevant how the tribe would be seen by outsiders? If they would be seen at all? How they would view outsiders? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4098 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 1:00 am: |      |
Is it relevant how the tribe would be seen by outsiders? If they would be seen at all? How they would view outsiders? Yes to all. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1595 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 10:41 pm: |      |
Is their technological level relevant? Location? or era relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4109 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 11:20 pm: |      |
Is their technological level relevant? Mildly. Assume stone-age. Location? Yes. or era relevant? Mildly, assume 1800s. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1602 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 11:24 pm: |      |
Africa? Asia? North America? South America? Australia? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4110 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 11:35 pm: |      |
Africa? This. Asia? North America? South America? Australia? |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1607 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 9:22 pm: |      |
North Africa? Central Africa? Southern Africa? Is their language relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4111 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 9:24 pm: |      |
North Africa? Central Africa? This. Southern Africa? Is their language relevant? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8269 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 9:26 pm: |      |
Specific country relevant? Specific geography of the land? Desert? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4112 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 08, 2010 - 10:11 pm: |      |
Specific country relevant? No, probably best known in the Congo area. Specific geography of the land? Could be mountainous, but not all that relevant. Desert? In central Africa? No. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1627 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 12:53 pm: |      |
Is it relevant that it was the 1800's? Could it have happened earlier? modern times? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4113 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 3:02 pm: |      |
Is it relevant that it was the 1800's? Not particularly. Could it have happened earlier? Yes. modern times? I doubt it, but not impossible. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1632 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 8:08 pm: |      |
Are any of the tribe's traditions relevant? Their attire? or lack of? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4114 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 1:36 am: |      |
Are any of the tribe's traditions relevant? It's not really a tradition, but you're circling around relevancy. Their attire? or lack of? Neither. |
Firesparx (Firesparx)
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Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 5:25 am: |      |
Does their tribal name sound like "Where did you see me" to English-speakers? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4116 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 6:11 am: |      |
Does their tribal name sound like "Where did you see me" to English-speakers? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8384 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 12:00 pm: |      |
Are the tribe's religious beliefs relevant? "Coming-of-age" ceremonies? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4117 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 4:14 pm: |      |
Are the tribe's religious beliefs relevant? Possibly. "Coming-of-age" ceremonies? No. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1641 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 6:04 pm: |      |
Day-to-day rituals relevant? Anything about their food? Where they can? or cannot walk? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4118 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 8:03 pm: |      |
Day-to-day rituals relevant? Anything about their food? Where they can? or cannot walk? None of these. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1647 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 8:10 pm: |      |
Any taboos relevant? Something they could not do? say? due to religious beliefs? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4119 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 8:37 pm: |      |
Any taboos relevant? Something they could not do? say? due to religious beliefs? None of these. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1650 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 8:43 pm: |      |
Any relevant conflicts between their own religious beliefs and missionaries? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4120 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2010 - 2:43 am: |      |
Any relevant conflicts between their own religious beliefs and missionaries? Possibly. I don't know if this can be called a religious belief or simply a cultural one. Missionaries certainly would be subject to it, but so would everyone else. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8440 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2010 - 1:17 pm: |      |
Is a certain ritual relevant? Something done by the entire tribe? Just the chief? Does the tribe have a chief? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4124 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2010 - 9:34 pm: |      |
Is a certain ritual relevant? I wouldn't call it a ritual. A tradition, maybe. Something done by the entire tribe? Yes. Just the chief? Does the tribe have a chief? Irr. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1652 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2010 - 10:24 pm: |      |
Is this something that would be done on a daily basis? Less frequent than that? Only on very special occasions? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4127 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2010 - 11:07 pm: |      |
Is this something that would be done on a daily basis? Less frequent than that? Likely this, but depends on circumstances. At times, it might be done several times in a single day. Only on very special occasions? No. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1656 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2010 - 11:18 pm: |      |
Is hunting relevant? Fetching water? Anything to do with farm work? personal grooming? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4128 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 12:36 am: |      |
Is hunting relevant? Fetching water? Anything to do with farm work? personal grooming? None of these. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1658 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 10:43 pm: |      |
Is traditions/rituals for when you meet people for the first time relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4133 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 1:45 am: |      |
Is traditions/rituals for when you meet people for the first time relevant? Yes. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1664 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 12:46 pm: |      |
Is the relevent thing something they say? do? something else? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4135 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 4:19 pm: |      |
Is the relevent thing something they say? This. do? And sometimes this. something else? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8483 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 7:14 pm: |      |
Chanting? Dancing? |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1667 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 8:28 pm: |      |
Is the name they use for themselves relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4137 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 11:42 pm: |      |
Chanting? Dancing? Neither. Is the name they use for themselves relevant? No. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1673 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 12:34 pm: |      |
Do they treat people they meet for the first time extremely friendly? do they offer something that seems very personal? or are they very stand-offish? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4139 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:42 pm: |      |
Do they treat people they meet for the first time extremely friendly? No. do they offer something that seems very personal? No. or are they very stand-offish? Not quite. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1676 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 11:16 pm: |      |
Do they seem to be hostile to new people? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4140 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 11:35 pm: |      |
Do they seem to be hostile to new people? Yes, depending. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8515 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 1:46 am: |      |
Hostile to people of a certain race? Gender? To people not of a certain race? Gender? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4141 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 12:18 pm: |      |
Hostile to people of a certain race? Gender? To people not of a certain race? This. Gender? |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1679 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 1:14 pm: |      |
Would they be hostile to everyone non-black african? Cannibalism relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4142 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:42 pm: |      |
Would they be hostile to everyone non-black african? Not necessarily; it depends. Look out for FAs. Cannibalism relevant? No. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1697 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:59 pm: |      |
Does the 'hostility' only show up in certain situations? Will they automatic be sceptic when meeting new people? Will they hide, perhapse? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4144 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 5:02 am: |      |
Does the 'hostility' only show up in certain situations? Yes. Will they automatic be sceptic when meeting new people? Yes! Will they hide, perhapse? No. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1701 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 10:40 pm: |      |
That scepticism; does it show in their behaviour? Are they overly shy? Do they show their weapons to newcomers? Do they try to stop them from entering certain areas? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4145 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 1:20 am: |      |
That scepticism; does it show in their behaviour? Yes. Are they overly shy? No. Do they show their weapons to newcomers? Yes. Do they try to stop them from entering certain areas? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8587 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 4:25 am: |      |
Do they threaten newcomers with their weapons? Kill them? On sight? Harm them? On sight? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4146 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 4:45 am: |      |
Do they threaten newcomers with their weapons? Yes. Kill them? Depends. On sight? No. Harm them? Depends. On sight? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8589 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 2:40 pm: |      |
Depends...on some physical characteristic of the newcomers? On something the newcomers do? Say? Body language relevant? |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1707 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 2:58 pm: |      |
Is it relevant where they meet the newcomers (as in distance from their village)? Will they react differently depending on the newcomers' reaction? will their reaction depend on the newcomers' showing their weapons? hiding their weapons? having no weapons at all? Are spesific rules of communication relevant, like hand gestures or similar? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4147 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 9:58 pm: |      |
Depends...on some physical characteristic of the newcomers? No. On something the newcomers do? No. Say? Yes. Body language relevant? No. Is it relevant where they meet the newcomers (as in distance from their village)? No. Will they react differently depending on the newcomers' reaction? Yes. will their reaction depend on the newcomers' showing their weapons? No. hiding their weapons? No. having no weapons at all? No. Are spesific rules of communication relevant, like hand gestures or similar? No. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1720 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 10:15 pm: |      |
Is it the exactly words used relevant? Relevant what language the newcomers speak? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4148 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 10:34 pm: |      |
Is it the exactly words used relevant? No, just the gist of the statement. Relevant what language the newcomers speak? No. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1725 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 11:11 pm: |      |
Will they react negatively if the newcomers are too friendly? Too sceptic? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4149 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 2:04 am: |      |
Will they react negatively if the newcomers are too friendly? No. Too sceptic? No. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1726 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 7:02 pm: |      |
My brain is going in circles here. Could you do a recap, please? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4150 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 11:28 pm: |      |
Oh, a minor oops: Too sceptic? Yesish -- in that sceptic may not be the right word. An African tribe somewhere in Central Africa, likely what is now Zaire, is known as the "Where-Did-You-See-Me" people. The reason for this has to do with how they always greet newcomers with a form of hostility. The background/race/nationality of the newcomers is irrelevant. The tribal members react differently depending on the newcomers' reaction to them, and will attack under certain circumstances. The tribe's reaction could be considered a cultural trait, or even tradition. This is most likely to have occurred before 1900, but this is irrelevant. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1730 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 10:59 pm: |      |
Is there anything about the newcomers, except their reaction, that will cause that reaction? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4153 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 12:10 am: |      |
Is there anything about the newcomers, except their reaction, that will cause that reaction? No. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1734 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 11:24 am: |      |
You said the exact words were not important, just the gist of what is said. Can we then presume the newcomers and the tribe speak the same language? or at least are able to communicate somehow? Is body language even remotely relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4155 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 10:25 pm: |      |
You said the exact words were not important, just the gist of what is said. Can we then presume the newcomers and the tribe speak the same language? Yes. or at least are able to communicate somehow? Is body language even remotely relevant? Yes. |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 1745 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 11:07 pm: |      |
Is the tribe misunderstanding the newcomers' body language somehow? Vice versa? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4156 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 5:05 am: |      |
Is the tribe misunderstanding the newcomers' body language somehow? Vice versa? Not necessarily either one, but if one isn't paying close attention to the other... The relevance, however, is more on the remote end of the scale. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8913 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 1:25 pm: |      |
Is a typical American (or European, or something completely non-tribal) greeting mistaken by the tribe as a sign of hostility? Waving? Shaking hands? High-fiving? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4168 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 2:02 pm: |      |
Is a typical American (or European, or something completely non-tribal) greeting mistaken by the tribe as a sign of hostility? Waving? Shaking hands? High-fiving? None of these, but a natural non-local reaction to the tribe could easily set them off. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8924 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 7:06 pm: |      |
Posture relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4170 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 2:02 am: |      |
Posture relevant? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8951 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 4:25 am: |      |
Is anything spoken relevant? By the tribe? By the non-locals? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4173 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 12:21 pm: |      |
Is anything spoken relevant? Yes. By the tribe? By the non-locals? Both. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8973 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2010 - 11:03 pm: |      |
Actual spoken words? Or mumbling/gibberish? Is something misunderstood? By the non-locals? By the tribe? Any reactions of the non-locals relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4176 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 12:09 am: |      |
Actual spoken words? This. Or mumbling/gibberish? Is something misunderstood? Possibly. By the non-locals? This. By the tribe? Any reactions of the non-locals relevant? Extremely relevant. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8984 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 2:00 am: |      |
Do the non-locals misinterpret something as hostile? Friendly? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4179 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 2:21 am: |      |
Do the non-locals misinterpret something as hostile? Friendly? No to both. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8989 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 2:32 am: |      |
Do they misinterpret something as irrelevant? When it is in fact a warning sign? Or sign of greeting? Or something? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4183 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 4:28 am: |      |
Do they misinterpret something as irrelevant? Yes! When it is in fact a warning sign? Yes! Definitely OTRT with both of these. Or sign of greeting? Or something? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8999 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 1:21 pm: |      |
The misinterpreted thing - is it something spoken? An action? Walking towards the non-locals? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4187 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 9:34 pm: |      |
The misinterpreted thing - is it something spoken? An action? Walking towards the non-locals? None of these. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9054 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 9:56 pm: |      |
A gesture? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4189 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 10:49 pm: |      |
A gesture? No. Definite FA -- it's not any sort of action, movement or sound. And "misinterpret" may not be the right word - "underestimate" might be better. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9060 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 5:25 am: |      |
Underestimate the force of the tribe? The brutality? Violence? Effectiveness of something? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4194 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 6:53 am: |      |
Underestimate the force of the tribe? The brutality? Violence? Effectiveness of something? The last one is perhaps most important, but all of these are true. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9073 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 3:34 pm: |      |
The effectiveness of the tribe's attacks? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4196 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 4:31 pm: |      |
The effectiveness of the tribe's attacks? No. No specific action is relevant. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9090 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 4:48 pm: |      |
Relevant the size of the tribe? Could you please recap? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4199 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 5:51 pm: |      |
Relevant the size of the tribe? In a sense ... (wink) Could you please recap? An African tribe somewhere in Central Africa, likely what is now Zaire, is known as the "Where-Did-You-See-Me" people. The reason for this has to do with how they always greet newcomers with a form of hostility. The background/race/nationality of the newcomers is irrelevant. The tribal members react differently depending on the newcomers' reaction to them, and will attack under certain circumstances. This typically happens because the non-locals underestimate them, in a way that is hard to define without giving the answer away. Hint: You have heard of this tribe, though not necessarily its name. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9101 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 10:34 pm: |      |
Is the tribe made up of children? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4204 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 12:48 am: |      |
Is the tribe made up of children? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9129 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 2:58 pm: |      |
Is the number of people in the tribe relevant? Are there very few people in the tribe? One? Zero? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4209 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 3:15 pm: |      |
Is the number of people in the tribe relevant? No. Are there very few people in the tribe? One? Zero? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9140 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2010 - 6:08 pm: |      |
Height of the tribe members relevant? Weight? Camouflage relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4212 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 12:21 am: |      |
Height of the tribe members relevant? Very much so. Weight? No. Camouflage relevant? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9196 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 3:45 am: |      |
Are the tribe members abnormally tall? Abnormally short? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4216 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 4:27 am: |      |
Are the tribe members abnormally tall? Abnormally short? This. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9201 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 1:13 pm: |      |
Do they, as such, appear non-threatening? But looks can be deceiving? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4219 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 06, 2010 - 11:16 pm: |      |
Do they, as such, appear non-threatening? Yes. But looks can be deceiving? Oh, yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9238 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 5:04 am: |      |
Relevant how they attack? Does the tribe attack at a long range? A short range? Height of the tribe - 2 feet? 3 feet? 4 feet? 5 feet? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4222 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 12:28 pm: |      |
Relevant how they attack? No. Does the tribe attack at a long range? A short range? This. Height of the tribe - 2 feet? 3 feet? 4 feet? This, IIRC. 5 feet? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9272 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 3:06 pm: |      |
Do the non-locals attempt to greet the tribe? Do they think the tribe members are children? But are fatally wrong? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4225 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 9:58 pm: |      |
Do the non-locals attempt to greet the tribe? Not exactly. Do they think the tribe members are children? No. But are fatally wrong? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9292 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 10:05 pm: |      |
Does the tribe come to the non-locals? Do the non-locals interpret this as greeting? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4227 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 1:00 am: |      |
Does the tribe come to the non-locals? No. Do the non-locals interpret this as greeting? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9301 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 4:07 pm: |      |
Do the non-locals approach the tribe? In attempted greeting? Is their greeting mistaken for a sign of hostility? Is the tribe hidden before the attack? Behind something? Under something? In bushes? Trees? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4228 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 4:19 pm: |      |
Do the non-locals approach the tribe? Yes. In attempted greeting? Not usually. Is their greeting mistaken for a sign of hostility? Depends on the greeting. Is the tribe hidden before the attack? Excellent question! Depends on your perspective. Behind something? Under something? This, with a very large ish. In bushes? Trees? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9306 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 4:22 pm: |      |
Are they below the typical line of sight for an average person? Are they lying down? Is the approach by the non-locals in curiosity? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4229 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 4:27 pm: |      |
Are they below the typical line of sight for an average person? Yes. Are they lying down? No. Is the approach by the non-locals in curiosity? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9351 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 4:04 am: |      |
Is the tribe given this name solely because of their height? Because many non-locals don't see them when they first encounter the tribe? Does the tribe take this as an insult? And thus attack? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4232 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 5:05 am: |      |
Is the tribe given this name solely because of their height? No. Because many non-locals don't see them when they first encounter the tribe? This does have something to do with it, but is not the primary reason. Does the tribe take this as an insult? Definitely enters into it. And thus attack? Yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9353 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 2:58 pm: |      |
Are the non-locals surprised to encounter people that short? Do they laugh? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4234 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 9:43 pm: |      |
Are the non-locals surprised to encounter people that short? Could be. Do they laugh? Could be. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9402 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 3:28 am: |      |
Do the non-locals react pleasantly to the sight of the short tribe members? Do the tribe members react fearfully or violently to the sight of those taller than them? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4236 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 4:04 am: |      |
Do the non-locals react pleasantly to the sight of the short tribe members? Irr. Do the tribe members react fearfully or violently to the sight of those taller than them? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9424 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 10, 2010 - 2:15 pm: |      |
Do the tribe members try to converse with the non-locals? Vice versa? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4237 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 3:53 am: |      |
Do the tribe members try to converse with the non-locals? Yes. Vice versa? Yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9466 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 3:55 am: |      |
Do the tribe members speak English? Does it sound like they speak English? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4239 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 1:06 pm: |      |
Do the tribe members speak English? Irr. Does it sound like they speak English? Irr. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9478 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 2:51 pm: |      |
Do they try to converse verbally? Through body language? Sign language? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4242 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 5:04 pm: |      |
Do they try to converse verbally? This. Through body language? Sign language? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9506 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 5:40 pm: |      |
Does a certain word or phrase get misinterpreted? A greeting? "Hello"? "Hi"? Is any specific word mentioned relevant? Is tone of voice/emotion of voice relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4244 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 11:58 pm: |      |
Does a certain word or phrase get misinterpreted? Not exactly. A greeting? I guess you could call it a greeting. "Hello"? "Hi"? Neither. Is any specific word mentioned relevant? The entire gist of the statement is relevant. Is tone of voice/emotion of voice relevant? Not really. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9519 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 1:29 am: |      |
Statement...spoken by the non-locals? The tribe? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4246 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 4:41 am: |      |
Statement...spoken by the non-locals? The tribe? This. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9523 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 12:25 pm: |      |
Did the tribe's form of greeting sound like an insult to the non-locals? Sound like gibberish? Sound humorous? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4248 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 12:27 pm: |      |
Did the tribe's form of greeting sound like an insult to the non-locals? No. Sound like gibberish? No. Sound humorous? Perhaps. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9531 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 6:53 pm: |      |
Did the non-locals understand the tribal greeting? Did they laugh? React in a way that the tribe found to be insulting? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4250 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 9:50 pm: |      |
Did the non-locals understand the tribal greeting? Yes. Did they laugh? Not necessarily. React in a way that the tribe found to be insulting? Oh, yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9538 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 9:57 pm: |      |
Did they snicker? Point? Make references to the tribe's vertically-challenged-ness? Was the "insulting reaction" verbal? A gesture? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4252 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 11:18 pm: |      |
Did they snicker? Point? Make references to the tribe's vertically-challenged-ness? This. Was the "insulting reaction" verbal? A gesture? Verbal, mostly, but could easily be both. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9552 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 12:13 am: |      |
Did they simply point out that the tribe members were short? Or did they do so in a way taken as insulting? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4254 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 12:26 am: |      |
Did they simply point out that the tribe members were short? Not in so many words. Or did they do so in a way taken as insulting? Yep. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9557 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 3:55 am: |      |
Did they say the word "short"? "Tiny"? "Little"? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4255 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 4:17 am: |      |
Did they say the word "short"? "Tiny"? "Little"? None of these. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 1914 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 4:55 am: |      |
Dwarf? Pygmy? (Or plurals of the aforementioned?) |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9558 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 12:07 pm: |      |
Midget? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4258 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 12:27 pm: |      |
Dwarf? Pygmy? This is what the tribe was. Midget?(Or plurals of the aforementioned?) Midget? The outsiders did not necessarily make any direct reference to the tribe. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 2:48 pm: |      |
Did the non-locals call them pygmies? Did the tribe take offense at that? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4259 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 - 11:02 pm: |      |
Did the non-locals call them pygmies? Irr. Did the tribe take offense at that? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9598 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 - 4:50 am: |      |
Did the outsiders make direct reference to the tribe members' height? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4261 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 - 5:21 am: |      |
Did the outsiders make direct reference to the tribe members' height? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9602 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 - 4:15 pm: |      |
Did the outsiders make a joke about the tribe's height? Could you please recap? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4263 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 2:04 am: |      |
Did the outsiders make a joke about the tribe's height? Not deliberately. Could you please recap? In Africa, there is a tribe of pygmies called the "Where-Did-You-See-Me" people. This is due to how they greet outsiders - the tribe will attack depending on the outsiders' attitude towards them. It has to do with whether the outsiders see the tribe before they meet. No direct reference is necessarily made to the pygmies' height, but the reaction (typically verbal) may still be taken as an insult by the tribe. Hint: The tribe's reaction depends on the outsider's response to the greeting. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 9634 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 3:13 am: |      |
Does the tribe attack if the outsiders react pleasantly? Harshly? Humorously? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4266 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 4:44 am: |      |
Does the tribe attack if the outsiders react pleasantly? Harshly? Humorously? None of these -- though there is an element of humor in the "wrong" response, it is not deliberate. |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4302 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 7:50 pm: |      |
Hint: The pygmies' greeting is relevant. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 2283 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 7:51 pm: |      |
I iz guessin it wuz nawt in kitteh langwich! but kaylee kitteh iz used tu talkin in dat bye nowe. Iz a very confuseded kaylee kitteh tho! *sighs* |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 2284 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 7:53 pm: |      |
translation: I guess it wasn't in kitteh language (aka "I can haz cheezburger?" lolspeak) but I am used to talking in that by now. I am a very confused kaylee though! *sighs* |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 10278 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 9:38 pm: |      |
Do they greet with spoken word? Gestures/ |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4305 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 12:24 am: |      |
I iz guessin it wuz nawt in kitteh langwich! but kaylee kitteh iz used tu talkin in dat bye nowe. Iz a very confuseded kaylee kitteh tho! *sighs* Aye, lassie, ye're reet. There isnae a cat tae be found in this puzzle, but. Th' little 'uns dinnae hivtae talk in Henglish, mind, but whit they do say it in isnae so important either. Translation from the Glaswegian (in honor of Robbie Burns and the New Year): Cats are irrelevant. The pygmies language is also irrelevant, but assume they're speaking in English if you like. Do they greet with spoken word? This. Gestures/ |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 4:03 am: |      |
Do the pygmies speak in a native tongue? A common tongue? English? Something understood by the non-locals? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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| | Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 4:46 am: |      |
Do the pygmies speak in a native tongue? A common tongue? English? Something understood by the non-locals? This. The exact language is irrelevant - assume English if you wish. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 4:58 am: |      |
Do the pygmies say something they thing to be a greeting? But it actually isn't? Or do they say it in a non-greeting tone? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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| | Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 10:59 pm: |      |
Do the pygmies say something they thing to be a greeting? Greeting maybe isn't the right word. I call it a greeting simply because it's the first thing they say when they meet new people. But it actually isn't? Or do they say it in a non-greeting tone? This. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 2:33 am: |      |
Do they say it in a threatening tone? Do the non-locals think they will attack? And thus provoke an actual attack? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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| | Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 2:36 am: |      |
Do they say it in a threatening tone? Yes, but largely irrelevant. Do the non-locals think they will attack? No. And thus provoke an actual attack? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 2:56 am: |      |
Is it relevant exactly what the pygmies say? Do they say something that isn't typically a greeting? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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| | Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 7:15 am: |      |
Is it relevant exactly what the pygmies say? Yes. Do they say something that isn't typically a greeting? Yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 1:18 am: |      |
Do they say something that is coherent? That makes a proper sentence? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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| | Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 3:27 am: |      |
Do they say something that is coherent? That makes a proper sentence? Yes to both. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 3:56 am: |      |
Do they something that is usually said in parting? Something overly personal (from the non-locals' perspective)? A threat? Something trivial? A typical native greeting? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4328 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 5:06 am: |      |
Do they something that is usually said in parting? No. Something overly personal (from the non-locals' perspective)? Not really, though YMMV. A threat? Doesn't sound like one - at first. Something trivial? It might sound so. A typical native greeting? For this tribe, yes. For others, no. Hint: You're overlooking something. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 4:59 pm: |      |
YMMV? Have the non-locals met the tribe before the greeting? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4329 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 9:29 pm: |      |
YMMV? Your Mileage May Vary; ie, you may disagree. Have the non-locals met the tribe before the greeting? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 12:24 pm: |      |
Is the non-locals' response to this greeting relevant? Do they laugh? Ask what the natives are trying to say? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 12:45 pm: |      |
Is the non-locals' response to this greeting relevant? Very much so. Do they laugh? Possibly. Ask what the natives are trying to say? Possibly. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 8:11 pm: |      |
Do they try to respond to the natives? Do the natives take the non-locals' response as a threat? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 1:37 am: |      |
Do they try to respond to the natives? Yes. Do the natives take the non-locals' response as a threat? No. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 12:24 pm: |      |
Do they attempt to hold a conversation with the natives? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 3:27 pm: |      |
Do they attempt to hold a conversation with the natives? No, just to respond to their "greeting." Which you still haven't worked out (hint, hint). |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 6:47 pm: |      |
Is the greeting in the form of a question? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 1:53 am: |      |
Is the greeting in the form of a question? Yes. |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 4:09 am: |      |
Do they ask an ordinary question? Do they ask something about the non-locals? Like their names? Skin color relevant? Eye color? Hair color? Height? "Why are you so tall" or something similar? |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 4:09 am: |      |
Or...is the greeting simply "Where do you see me?" |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 6:42 am: |      |
Or...is the greeting simply "Where do you see me?" Almost there! |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 2359 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 7:25 am: |      |
"Where do you see us?" |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4352 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 12:35 pm: |      |
"Where do you see us?" Getting colder. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 2360 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 3:54 pm: |      |
"Where do you see me?" |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 10481 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 8:57 pm: |      |
"Where do we see you?" |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4356 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 10:39 pm: |      |
Wrong tense, guys... look at the puzzle statement. ;) |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 2388 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 10:45 pm: |      |
"Where did we see you?" "Where did you see me?" "Where do you see me?" (please, let it not be that easy...) |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 2389 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 10:46 pm: |      |
(Where DID you see me...typo) |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4358 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 1:44 am: |      |
"Where did you see me?" (please, let it not be that easy...) Yep. Now, why did they ask it? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 10533 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 12:08 pm: |      |
To see if the non-locals would think them to be weird or abnormal? Because of their height? |
Sundowner (Sundowner)
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Post Number: 657 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 12:24 pm: |      |
"Where did you see me?" as in .. "Where did you see me before?" .. "Where on Earth did you see me?" .. "From where did you see me?" .. "Where else did you see me?" .. "Did you see me in your home place?" .. "Did we meet before?" or, does it have a metaphorical meaning, not related to "seeing" at all? Which of the following would be a reasonable response to this kind of question/greeting: .. "In Korea" .. "On the cover of the National Geographic" .. "Nowhere" .. "Never" .. "In a dream" .. "Here in this place" .. "Everywhere" |
Redwine (Redwine)
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Post Number: 3 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 5:48 pm: |      |
Which of the following responses to a "greeting" would cause the attack: - laughter? - "what do you mean?" or similar question - approaching the tribe? - ignoring question and expressing a normal "greeting"? Did this particular type of "greeting" the newcomers come from any unfriendly behaviour of newcomers performed to the tribe in the past? Is this "greeting" a sort of test? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4360 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 10:18 pm: |      |
To see if the non-locals would think them to be weird or abnormal? Indirectly, yes. Because of their height? Yes. "Where did you see me?" as in .. "Where did you see me before?" Thisish. .. "Where on Earth did you see me?" Also thisish. .. "From where did you see me?" .. "Where else did you see me?" And thisish. .. "Did you see me in your home place?" .. "Did we meet before?" No to the others. or, does it have a metaphorical meaning, not related to "seeing" at all? Yope. Which of the following would be a reasonable response to this kind of question/greeting: .. "In Korea" .. "On the cover of the National Geographic" .. "Nowhere" .. "Never" .. "In a dream" .. "Here in this place" .. "Everywhere" None of these. Which of the following responses to a "greeting" would cause the attack: - laughter? Not by itself. - "what do you mean?" or similar question - approaching the tribe? - ignoring question and expressing a normal "greeting"? Unlikely to the others. Did this particular type of "greeting" the newcomers come from any unfriendly behaviour of newcomers performed to the tribe in the past? Not necessarily unfriendly, but it is a reaction to past meetings with outsiders. Is this "greeting" a sort of test? Yes! |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 10590 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 10:55 pm: |      |
Do the tribal members attack if the non-locals answer insultingly or abnormally? Are they testing to see if the non-locals will treat them differently because of their height? |
Redwine (Redwine)
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Post Number: 18 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 11:02 pm: |      |
Will the tribe attack if the outsiders refer somehow to their height? The tribe members aren't simply asking about previous contacts with outsiders, when they express greeting "Where did you see me", right? Past tense in the question is relevant? Or would it work good enough in another grammar tense? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4365 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 12:35 am: |      |
Do the tribal members attack if the non-locals answer insultingly or abnormally? Yes. Are they testing to see if the non-locals will treat them differently because of their height? Yes, although... Will the tribe attack if the outsiders refer somehow to their height? Depends. The tribe members aren't simply asking about previous contacts with outsiders, when they express greeting "Where did you see me", right? Right. Past tense in the question is relevant? Yes. Or would it work good enough in another grammar tense? Not really. |
Redwine (Redwine)
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Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 11:14 am: |      |
Would an average outsider realize what answer to a greeting should be appropriate? Or special knowledge of this tradition is needed? Are there any relevant actions of tribal members, which enable newcomers to work out proper answer? The answers which cause the attack mean somehow underestimating the tribe? Is there any double meaning, double entendre or misspelling in this greeting, which makes it sound as an ordinary question, which in fact it is not? An appropriate response to a greeting should be expressed by wording or by actions? Does the question "where did you see me?" refer somehow to the fact that tribal members are initially invisible or at least hard to see? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4368 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 1:31 pm: |      |
Would an average outsider realize what answer to a greeting should be appropriate? Probably not. Or special knowledge of this tradition is needed? Definitely helps. Are there any relevant actions of tribal members, which enable newcomers to work out proper answer? Not really - their attitudes might give you a small hint, but not much. The answers which cause the attack mean somehow underestimating the tribe? Very much so. Is there any double meaning, double entendre or misspelling in this greeting, which makes it sound as an ordinary question, which in fact it is not? No. An appropriate response to a greeting should be expressed by wording or by actions? Wording. Does the question "where did you see me?" refer somehow to the fact that tribal members are initially invisible or at least hard to see? Yes. |
Redwine (Redwine)
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Post Number: 37 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 3:37 pm: |      |
Underestimating refers to: the number of tribal members? their height? their strenght? their military capacities? their skills? their hostile attitude? their knowledge? The purpose of the greeting is to test: outsiders' perception skills (to see the hidden members)? outsiders' coming in peace? strenght? attitude? intelligence? skills? Do we have to find out the exact expression, which outsider should say? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 10614 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 3:44 pm: |      |
Would the response "Over there" or "In the distance" be a safe response for the non-locals? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4369 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 12:08 am: |      |
Underestimating refers to: the number of tribal members? their height? their strenght? their military capacities? their skills? their hostile attitude? This. their knowledge? The purpose of the greeting is to test: outsiders' perception skills (to see the hidden members)? outsiders' coming in peace? strenght? attitude? This. intelligence? skills? Do we have to find out the exact expression, which outsider should say? That would be good yes. Would the response "Over there" or "In the distance" This in particular. be a safe response for the non-locals? And what would be the worst possible response? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4370 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 12:09 am: |      |
Underestimating refers to: the number of tribal members? their height? their strenght? their military capacities? their skills? their hostile attitude? This. their knowledge? The purpose of the greeting is to test: outsiders' perception skills (to see the hidden members)? outsiders' coming in peace? strenght? attitude? This. intelligence? skills? Do we have to find out the exact expression, which outsider should say? That would be good yes. Would the response "Over there" or "In the distance" This in particular, but it could be even better. be a safe response for the non-locals? And what would be the worst possible response? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4377 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 2:12 am: |      |
The purpose of the greeting is to test: outsiders' perception skills (to see the hidden members)? Also this. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 10638 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 3:02 am: |      |
Worst response - "I didn't"? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4382 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 3:45 am: |      |
Worst response - "I didn't"? Worse than that. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 10653 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 3:49 am: |      |
"See who?" "See what?" |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 4385 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 3:55 am: |      |
"See who?" "See what?" Close enough. * SPOILER * There was reputedly a pygmy tribe in Central Africa whose members were highly sensitive about their height. Their first reaction to meeting outsiders was to ask "Where did you see me?" The best answer was, "I saw you several hours ago, towering over those mountains in the distance." The worst answer, which would precipitate an attack, was "Who said that? Oh, sorry, little fella, I didn't see you down there." |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 10656 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 3:57 am: |      |
Yikes - sensitive much? (And this coming from a short person - but not that short.) Clever puzzle! |