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As most of you know, UConn's football team has experienced a new success the last few years, culminating by their first BCS appearance. However, much of this success has come at the expense of the men's ice hockey team. Why?
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Is this to do with the:
football team members?
ice hockey team members?
football ground?
hockey pitch?
coaches or managers?
fans?
money?
TV?
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mascots for either team? are any of the ice hockey and football team members the same, playing on both teams? are any of the coaches common to both teams?
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Have more people started following/joining/attempting to join the football team? Instead of the hockey team? Are their fewer hockey players? Fewer fans?
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Is this to do with the:
football team members? Yope
ice hockey team members? ,b> Yope </b>
football ground? To some extent
hockey pitch? It's called a "rink" and no.
coaches or managers? Somewhat for both, though more so for football.
fans? No
money? Yes, with a slight ish
TV? No

But all the affirmative answers above (or at least the ones relating to football) could mislead.

mascots for either team? are any of the ice hockey and football team members the same, playing on both teams? are any of the coaches common to both teams? No to all.

Have more people started following/joining/attempting to join the football team? Instead of the hockey team? Are their fewer hockey players? Fewer fans? The only relevant aspect is that the football team has more players. But this could mislead as well.
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Just to clarify for those Brits, we're talking American football here. Not what we call soccer. Although if you're not from America this probably won't help you much anyway.
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Does the hockey team have worse players? Has its size been decreasing over the past few years?
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Are scholarships relevant? Coach's bonuses? Financial support from the alumni association?
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Does the hockey team have worse players? Yes, see below Has its size been decreasing over the past few years? No, see below.

Are scholarships relevant? Yes, definitely. Coach's bonuses? No Financial support from the alumni association? Possibly, but it's not the reason I'm trying to get at in this puzzle. So for this puzzle, no.
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Because the football team is doing well, the hockey team gets fewer scholarships? And this is hurting their play on the ice? Or they're getting fewer scholarships because they play less well?
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Because the football team is doing well, Yope, FA the hockey team gets fewer scholarships? Yes And this is hurting their play on the ice? Yes Or they're getting fewer scholarships because they play less well? No
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Is the football team doing well as a result of being given more scholarships? Rather than the other way around?
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Is the football team doing well as a result of being given more scholarships? Rather than the other way around? Precisely!
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Does UConn have a specific limit to the number of sports scholarships it can give? If not an overall limit, is there a limit specifically for men's sports? If so, is it budget related? Rules related?
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Does UConn have a specific limit to the number of sports scholarships it can give? Well, they can only afford so many, but that's not the whole story. If not an overall limit, is there a limit specifically for men's sports? You're OTRT, but again, not quite If so, is it budget related? Rules related? Both, though "rules" may not be the best term.
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Can they only give X amount in scholarship money? And with the football team's success, more of that is going towards football than ice hockey?
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Can they only give X amount in scholarship money? And with the football team's success, more of that is going towards football than ice hockey? Not quite, but you're on the right track. And remember, the extra scholarships caused the football team's success. And as a hint, consider the recent history of the UConn football program.
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Are women's sports relevant?

Recent history of the UConn football program...the fact that they have been playing quite well in recent years? That they've made a BCS bowl this year? Something else?
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Are women's sports relevant? Yes

Recent history of the UConn football program...the fact that they have been playing quite well in recent years? Yes That they've made a BCS bowl this year? Not specifically Something else? More so this.
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Any other men's sports relevant? Either basketball team relevant? Both?
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Any other men's sports relevant? To some extent, I believe so, though I am not certain on this. Either basketball team relevant? Both? No to these.
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Drat, so my emailed possible $poyler was wrong...
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Is there a women's ice hockey team? Relevant?
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Is a specific women's sport relevant? Or simply women's sports in general?
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Is there a women's ice hockey team? Yes Relevant? I believe it is quite relevant. However, I am not certain that this relevance is for the reason I think it is.
Is a specific women's sport relevant? Or simply women's sports in general? A couple specific women's sports are relevant. However, knowing what sports these are won't help you unless you actually know the fact you need already. So don't bother with that. And women's sports in general are more relevant.
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Has the women's ice hockey team gotten more funding than the men's ice hockey team? Due to Title IX? And coupled with the football success, this really hurts the MIHT?
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Has the women's ice hockey team gotten more funding than the men's ice hockey team? irr Due to Title IX? But this is relevant. And coupled with the football success, this really hurts the MIHT? You're very OTRT. One more connection you need to make.
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Does the WIHT get more scholarship money than ordinarily? Due to Title IX?
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Does the WIHT get more scholarship money than ordinarily? Due to Title IX? The women's ice hockey team is largely irrelevant here. We are focusing on the Men's Ice Hockey Team. But you're quite OTRT. If you know some relatively recent history of the UConn football program it will help you greatly here
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Relatively recent...from the 2000s? 1990s? 1980s? 1970s? 1960s? 1950s?
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Relatively recent...from the 2000s? 1990s? 1980s? 1970s? 1960s? 1950s? mainly 2000s, late 1990s are somewhat relevant.
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Was the team really bad in those years?
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Was the team really bad in those years? In the early 2000s they were bad, but this could deceive.
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Did the football program get lots of scholarship funding in that time period?
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Did the football program get lots of scholarship funding in that time period? They received many additional scholarships in 2000. This is the relevant part as it relates to the hockey team (for the record this is when they upgraded from I-AA to I-A.) You have one step left.
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Did the hockey team move up a division as well? Is the hockey team Division I-AA? I-A? Conferences relevant?
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Did the hockey team move up a division as well? Is the hockey team Division I-AA? I-A? Conferences relevant? Hockey team is Division I. It has no subdivision. and conferences are not relevant. But you're established every background info you need, just put it together.
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Did the football team get more scholarships because they moved up? Did the school have to give the football team more scholarships in order to move up?
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Did the football team get more scholarships because they moved up? Did the school have to give the football team more scholarships in order to move up? Precisely. And the hockey team is getting less (none, actually.) This isn't as far as I wanted, but since we've accomplished nothing for the last 10 posts, I'm just going to go a head and

****SPOILER****
When the football team upgrated from I-AA to I-A, they needed more scholarships. The school had the money to do that, but due to Title IX they would need to add the equivalent of about 30 full scholarships in women's sports, which they could not afford to do. So, they made men's ice hockey non-scholarship, and I believe they also added women's ice hockey and lacrosse as as a result (both scholarship, though not full rides for most players). Good job to everyone who played. You had all the pieces there, and I was hoping you'd make the last connection, but it wasn't happening.
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Greg: I didn't know that...Good Puzzle!

BTW: I was planning to be the obnoxious OU fan and say something along the lines of "I didn't realize that UConn played football." ;-) But after looking at the online articles you've written, it seems that you are a fair and balanced sports fan. So...I will just say: "Good Luck to your team this weekend -- and BOOMER SOONER!"
=)
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Ooh, this should be good...

Being a CT native, I've gotta pull for UConn - GO HUSKIES!!
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Yeah, Go Huskies! Oklahoma Sooners is an anagram for A**hole Moron Oak. I'll let you figure out what I'm implying about Sooner fans.
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Ouch! While I would agree that many Sooner sports fans can be real "homers" - you forgot to say "present company excluded". I may be an alumni, but I believe in fair play.
I just hope that each team shows up with it's best effort today. I don't want this one decided by questionable referree calls!

**And...because of your slam, I will no longer feel sorry that the UConn women's basketball streak is over! Meh!!***
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Aww!! *smooths Kaygee's ruffled feathers*

*did not know that Kaygee was Sooner alumnus* *hopes Mr. Gregory Coke and Kaygee can get along now*
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:-)
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FYI: I shared this UConn scholarships story with family members last night while we were watching the game. I have been married to a true sports-fanatic for over 20 years - so it was nice to have something that he didn't already know!

The Husky's played very well last night. I was impressed that they didn't give up - kept fighting until the end. Makes for an exciting game.

Truce?

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