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Admin (Admin)
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Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 11:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Because one sank many others sank.
Doriana (Doriana)
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One = H? A? F?M? Or a ship?
many others = H? A? F?M? Ships?
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Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the 'one' a submarine and the 'others' ships that it torpedoed?
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Sank 1: went under a water surface? Lost buoyancy? Went out of business? Some other figurative meaning?
Sank 2: same questions. Are the first and second "sank" identical in meaning?
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Zees ees zee German Coast Guard?
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Doriana and Kdoc,

One = H? A? F?M?
NO

Or a ship?
YES (IN A BROAD SENSE)

many others = H? A? F?M? Ships?
AS ABOVE

was the 'one' a submarine and the 'others' ships that it torpedoed?
NO - BUT GOOD TRY
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Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 8:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk and Whirligig,

Sank 1: went under a water surface? Lost buoyancy? Went out of business? Some other figurative meaning?
YES, YES, NO, NO

Sank 2: same questions. Are the first and second "sank" identical in meaning?
YES

Zees ees zee German Coast Guard?
NO. BUT THE TITLE IS BASED ON THAT JOKE
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 9:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a model ship? An origami ship? A typical ship? Were people on the ship? On the "many others"? Are the one and the many others the same type of object?
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Balin,

Was it a model ship? An origami ship?
NO, NO

A typical ship?
SOMEWHAT

Were people on the ship? On the "many others"?
YES, YES

Are the one and the many others the same type of object?
NO
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 10:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the "ships" sink in water? In some other liquid? Relevant what the ships were made of?
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Balin,

Did the "ships" sink in water?
YES

In some other liquid? Relevant what the ships were made of?
NO, NO
Balin (Balin)
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Did the one and the others sink shortly after each other? A long time apart? At the exact same time?
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Balin,

GOOD QUESTIONS

Did the one and the others sink shortly after each other?
NO

A long time apart?
YES

At the exact same time?
NO
Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A long time = several hours? Days? Month? Years? Decades?

Is the one that sank a wreck on the ground that the many others bumped into and therefore sank as well?
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Doriana,

A long time = several hours? Days? Month? Years? Decades?
DECADES

Is the one that sank a wreck on the ground that the many others bumped into and therefore sank as well?
NO
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, December 20, 2010 - 11:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did all the "others" sink at the same time?

Did the one sink in wartime? Did the others?
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Balin,

Did all the "others" sink at the same time?
NO

Did the one sink in wartime?
NO

Did the others?
YES

VERY GOOD
Doriana (Doriana)
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Is it relevant what war it was? Did they all sink in the same war? Are they battleships? Aircraft carriers? Submarines?
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Is a particular location relevant?
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Doriana,

Is it relevant what war it was?
YES

Did they all sink in the same war?
THE OTHERS - YES

Are they battleships? Aircraft carriers? Submarines?
NO, NO, YES
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Martin,

Is a particular location relevant?
NO
Doriana (Doriana)
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Was it WW I? WW II? The Vietnam War?
If it's none of these, [LTPF list of decades]?
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Doriana,

Was it WW I? WW II? The Vietnam War?

WWII
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Does it means that one ships sanks and decades later some submarines crashes with the remains of the first ship?
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Was the first sinking an accident? An experiment? A normal procedure? (since after all submarines are ships that 'sink' in their normal operation)

Same questions for the subsequent sinkings.

Did the people on the first submarine die? Did any from the second set? All?
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Fandres,

Does it means that one ship sanks and decades later some submarines crashes with the remains of the first ship?
NO
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Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 4:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rbruma,

Was the first sinking an accident?
YES

An experiment? A normal procedure? (since after all submarines are ships that 'sink' in their normal operation)
NO

Same questions for the subsequent sinkings.
NO TO ALL THOSE

Did people on the first vessel die?
YES

Did any from the second set?
YES

All?
PRETTY MUCH
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the first ship a cruise ship? A steamboat? An ocean liner? A whaler? A yacht? Was it a relatively large vessel?
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Balin,

Was the first ship a cruise ship? A steamboat? An ocean liner? A whaler? A yacht?
OCEAN LINER

Was it a relatively large vessel?
YES
Balin (Balin)
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Did it spring a leak? Did its engine explode? Boiler? Did it suffer an explosion, period?
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Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - 11:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Titanic?
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Balin and Kaylee,

Did it spring a leak? Did its engine explode? Boiler? Did it suffer an explosion, period?
NO

The Titanic?
YES
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2010 - 4:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Recap: because the Titanic sank in 1912, many other ships sank in WWII. Correct?

The "many ships" - were they used for war? Did they sink accidentally? In battle?
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Is the idea that the techniques which were supposed to make the Titanic "unsinkable" weren't pursued after its high-profile sinking, leading to lots of other ships in the future being more sink-able than they otherwise would have been?
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Balin,

Recap: because the Titanic sank in 1912, many other ships sank in WWII. Correct?
CORRECT

The "many ships" - were they used for war? Did they sink accidentally? In battle?
YES, NO, YES
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BENTARM,

Is the idea that the techniques which were supposed to make the Titanic "unsinkable" weren't pursued after its high-profile sinking, leading to lots of other ships in the future being more sink-able than they otherwise would have been?

NO
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Is it relevant which side (Allied, Axis) were the ones who sank? Anti-submarine warfare techniques relevant?
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Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 2:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rbruma,

Is it relevant which side (Allied, Axis) were the ones who sank?
YES - AXIS

Anti-submarine warfare techniques relevant?
YES
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Was the wreck of the Titanic used as some sort of underwater marker?
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Sonar relevant?
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Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2010 - 7:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rbruma,

* * * SPOILER * * *

Sonar relevant? Correct.

After the sinking of the Titanic sonar tchnology was developed for the purpose of detecting icebergs. It was then adapted by the Admiralty to detect submarines and it was used to great effect in WWII to help sink many German U-Boats.

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