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By pretending to be very conscientious, Carola made sure that she could get away with a crime--but NOT because her pretense made people assume that she was above suspicion. How come?
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Carola = H/A/F? Was she actually guilty? Was she caught later?
Was it murder? Manslaughter? Robbery? Theft?
Did Carola do something that made people assume she was above suspicion? Or did she say somehting? People = the police?
True Story? FYOI? FSEI?
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Did she actually get away with a crime?

Is this from a work of fiction? "Law and Order"?
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Carola = H yes/A possibly but not necessarily/F yes? Was she actually guilty? yes Was she caught later? very unlikely
Was it murder? Manslaughter? Robbery? Theft? noto all
Did Carola do something that made people assume she was above suspicion? no Or did she say somehting? noPeople = the police? no
True Story? no FYOI? yes FSEI? no
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Did she actually get away with a crime?

Is this from a work of fiction? no"Law and Order"? no (believe it or not!)
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The crime - fraud? Shoplifting? Jaywalking? Speeding? Something to do with driving? Was it a felony?
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The crime - fraud? no Shoplifting? noJaywalking? no Speeding? noSomething to do with driving? no Was it a felony? yes
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Smuggling? Poaching?
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Smuggling? no Poaching? no
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She pretended to be conscientious - as in careful? About a certain action? Cause?
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did anyone know a crime had been committed?
did she, by her actions: hide the fact that a crime was being committed? prevent others finding out that a crime had been committed? make it appear that something other than a crime was happening? make it appear that someone else was committing the crime? distract others from the fact a crime was being committed? prevent someone reporting the crime? prevent the police investigating the crime? make the police think a report of the crime was wrong? make the police ignore the evidence? make the police arrest the wrong person? cause someone else to be convicted? make sure that, if she was arrested she would not be charged? make sure that, if she were charged she would never go to trial? make sure that, if she went to trial she would not be convicted? make sure that, if she were convicted she would not be punished?

was she suspected of the crime? by the police?

did she make it appear that what she was doing was not a crime for her whereas it would be for someone else?

was it fraud?

did she pretend to be someone else? use someone else's identity in any way? fabricate an identity?

by pretending to be conscientious do you mean she worked long hours? worked very hard? listened carefully to people? helped people physically? did very detailed work? or appeared to do any of these things?

does she have customers? relevant? is she committing a crime against them? against her employer? against strangers?

is the crime committed during the course of her job? her hobbies? in her local community? in her own home?

does she somehow hide the physical evidence of her crime?
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is the fact that "conscientious" is misspelled in the puzzle title relevant?
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She pretended to be conscientious - as in careful? yesAbout a certain action? yesCause? no
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did anyone know a crime had been committed? no
did she, by her actions: hide the fact that a crime was being committed? yopeprevent others finding out that a crime had been committed? yope make it appear that something other than a crime was happening? yes make it appear that someone else was committing the crime? no distract others from the fact a crime was being committed? noish prevent someone reporting the crime? noishprevent the police investigating the crime? noish make the police think a report of the crime was wrong? no make the police ignore the evidence? no make the police arrest the wrong person? no cause someone else to be convicted? no make sure that, if she was arrested she would not be charged? no make sure that, if she were charged she would never go to trial? make sure that, if she went to trial she would not be convicted? no make sure that, if she were convicted she would not be punished? no

was she suspected of the crime? no by the police? no

did she make it appear that what she was doing was not a crime for her whereas it would be for someone else? no

was it fraud? no

did she pretend to be someone else? no use someone else's identity in any way? nofabricate an identity? no

by pretending to be conscientious do you mean she worked long hours? no worked very hard? yopelistened carefully to people? yesish helped people physically? yope did very detailed work? yope or appeared to do any of these things? yesish

does she have customers?no relevant? yes is she committing a crime against them?n/a against her employer? n'aagainst strangers? no

is the crime committed during the course of her job? no her hobbies? no in her local community? yesin her own home? no

does she somehow hide the physical evidence of her crime? noish or yope
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is the fact that "conscientious" is misspelled in the puzzle title relevant? No--just a typo.
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so she is doing something criminal, but making it appear that what she is doing is OK? does she make it appear that what she is doing is actually a good thing? helpful to others? charitable? is she helping out her neighbours in some way? or pretending to help but actually committing a crime? to benefit herself?
does she gain by her crime? gain money? gain status? gain physical objects?
does the crime involve money? is there an identifiable victim or victims? is the crime against one person? several? many? the state?
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so she is doing something criminal, but making it appear that what she is doing is OK? yesish does she make it appear that what she is doing is actually a good thing? yesishhelpful to others? yes charitable? noishis she helping out her neighbours in some way?see next answer or pretending to help but actually committing a crime? yesto benefit herself? yes
does she gain by her crime? yesish gain money? no gain status? no gain physical objects? no
does the crime involve money? no is there an identifiable victim or victims? yes is the crime against one person? yesseveral? no many? nothe state? on the US, all crimes count as being against the state, ("the people vs. the defendant, but she's not committing treason
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is she assaulting someone? causing them physical harm? poisoning them?
relevant who she is committing the crime against? her next door neighbour? is gardening involved? plants?
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is she assaulting someone? probablycausing them physical harm? probably poisoning them? no
relevant who she is committing the crime against? yes her next door neighbour? yes is gardening involved? noplants? no
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BLOOOOPERRRALERTTTTTTT!!!!!is she assaulting someone? probably causing them physical harm? probably The second 'probably' should be 'yope.'
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Is the neighbor suffering bodily harm?
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Is the neighbor suffering bodily harm? yesish
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so Carola was pretending to help her next door neighbour? but she was actually committing a crime against her? that somehow caused some kind of physical harm? and also emotional harm? loss of property? loss of reputation? is C trying to drive the neighbour mad?

was the next door neighbour the victim simply because of living next door? did C want the neighbour to move out? to die? to give up some of their property?

relevant what kind of residence is involved? houses? attached houses? apartments? do they share an adjoining wall? is noise relevant? children relevant? dogs?

is the neighbour causing C a nuisance in some way? is C taking revenge? does C want to replace the neighbour in their residence?
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so Carola was pretending to help her next door neighbour? yesbut she was actually committing a crime against her? yesish that somehow caused some kind of physical harm? yesishand also emotional harm? possiblyloss of property? no loss of reputation? nois C trying to drive the neighbour mad? no

was the next door neighbour the victim simply because of living next door? yesish did C want the neighbour to move out? no to die? no to give up some of their property? no

relevant what kind of residence is involved? irrel houses? attached houses? apartments? do they share an adjoining wall? is noise relevant? no children relevant? yes dogs? no

is the neighbour causing C a nuisance in some way? nois C taking revenge? no does C want to replace the neighbour in their residence? no
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Did the neighbor have kids? Did Carola have kids?

Crime - kidnapping?
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Did the neighbor have kids? yes Did Carola have kids? no

Crime - kidnapping? no
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Kids - H? C? M? Number of kids - 1? 2? 3? More? [LTPF list of integers]?
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Kids - H? yes C?huh? M? huh? Number of kids - 1? 2? 3? More? probably 1, maybe 2 [LTPF list of integers]?
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Human/Child/Male?...or perhaps Teen instead...or Female instead of Male?
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Human/Child/Male?...or perhaps Teen instead...or Female instead of Male? Sex is irrel, but any relevant children are babies
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Are they newborns?
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Are they newborns? probably not
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HINT: Find out when this occurs
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When = what century? what decade? what month of the year? what time of day? When can mean a lot of things, you know =P

LTPF list of centuries please?
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When = what century? Yes. It occurred in the present century or late 20th what decade? what month of the year? what time of day? When can mean a lot of things, you know =P

LTPF list of centuries please?
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Is the crime occurring against the neighbor? The child? Is someone being poisoned?
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Is the crime occurring against the neighbor? see next answer The child? yes Is someone being poisoned? no
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Does Carola have regular access to the child?
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Does Carola have regular access to the child? no
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Does Carola cause physical harm to the child?
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Does Carola cause physical harm to the childprobably
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Does Carola go to the neighbor's house? Does the neighbor have a babysitter?
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Does Carola go to the neighbor's house? yes Does the neighbor have a babysitter? yes
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Does Carola pretend to be concerned about the child? Does her pseudo-concern involve the babysitter? Is it about the babysitter?
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the reason for it having to occur in the time period stated: because of laws that exist at these times? or don't exist? because of the internet? computers? because of mobile phones? video cameras? the existence of any particular electrical gadget?

does Carola babysit for her neighbour? relevant?
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Does Carola pretend to be concerned about the child? yesDoes her pseudo-concern involve the babysitter? yes Is it about the babysitter? yes
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the reason for it having to occur in the time period stated: because of laws that exist at these times? no or don't exist? nobecause of the internet? no computers? because of mobile phones? no video cameras? yesthe existence of any particular electrical gadget? see previous answer

does Carola babysit for her neighbour? yes relevant? yes
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Does Carola always babysit for the neighbor? Or is there another babysitter?
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Does Carola always babysit for the neighbor?no Or is there another babysitter? irrel
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So it's important that it happened in this century or in the late 20th century? Is technology involved? Cell phones? Baby monitors?
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So it's important that it happened in this century or in the late 20th century? yes Is technology involved? yesCell phones? no Baby monitors? no, but you're VERY ORT (on the right track)
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Door phones / intercom systems relevant?
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Door phones / intercom systems relevant? You're still very ORT but not there yet.
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Security systems? Burglar alarms? Other alarms?
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Security systems? exactly what do you mean here? Burglar alarms? noOther alarms? no
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Security cameras?
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Security cameras? yes or yesish
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A surveillance system?
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A surveillance system? yes
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Did Carola hack the surveillance system? Short it out?
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Did Carola hack the surveillance system? Short it out?
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Did Carola hack the surveillance system? noShort it out? no
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Was Carola seen on surveillance? Did the neighbors have a surveillance system? Did Carola pretend to be concerned about security?
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Was Carola seen on surveillance? no Did the neighbors have a surveillance system? no Did Carola pretend to be concerned about security? no or noish
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is the crime child abuse? sexual abuse? child pornography?

is there another relevant babysitter other than Carola?

does Carola set up surveillance cameras? does she secretly film? the babay? another baabysitter? the parents?
does she suggest to the parents that they should use surveillance cameras? does she alter the pictures ont the camera in some way? does she watch the film?
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is the crime child abuse? yes sexual abuse? yes child pornography? no

is there another relevant babysitter other than Carola? no

does Carola set up surveillance cameras? no does she secretly film? no the babay? noanother baabysitter? nothe parents? no
does she suggest to the parents that they should use surveillance cameras? yes does she alter the pictures ont the camera in some way? nodoes she watch the film? no
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Do the parents take her suggestion? Do they ask Carola to install them?

Do they tell Carola where the cameras are? So she knows where and how to avoid them?
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Do the parents take her suggestion? noDo they ask Carola to install them? no

Do they tell Carola where the cameras are? yopeSo she knows where and how to avoid them? yope
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Does Carola know that there are no cameras? Do the parents install any form of security? Do they have any form of security?
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Does Carola know that there are no cameras? yes. GOOOOOOD QUESTION!!! Do the parents install any form of security? no Do they have any form of security? no
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Is Carola able to commit her crime because she knows there are no cameras?
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does she appear to be conscientious by advising the parents to put up surveillance cameras, thus indicating that she is happy to be watched as she is looking after the child(ren) well? but in actual fact she is using this as a way of actually stopping them doing the surveillance because she wishes to mistreat the children? so the parents would think - 'if she is happy for cameras she must be OK'? so they don't bother with the cameras?
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Is Carola able to commit her crime because she knows there are no cameras? yes
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does she appear to be conscientious by advising the parents to put up surveillance cameras, yes thus indicating that she is happy to be watched as she is looking after the child(ren) well? no but in actual fact she is using this as a way of actually stopping them doing the surveillance no because she wishes to mistreat the children? yes so the parents would think - 'if she is happy for cameras she must be OK'? no so they don't bother with the cameras? that's not why
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Does Carola suggest a specific type of camera? One that is unaffordable for the parents?
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Does Carola suggest a specific type of camera? no One that is unaffordable for the parents? no
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Do the parents think they have no need of surveillance cameras?
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Do the parents think they have no need of surveillance cameras? yes
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Do they tell this to Carola?
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Do they tell this to Carola? yes
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So since Carola knows there are no cameras, she knows she is free to abuse at will? Does she pretend to be concerned about the lack of security, when in fact, it enables her to commit the crime?
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So since Carola knows there are no cameras, she knows she is free to abuse at will? yes Does she pretend to be concerned about the lack of security, when in fact, it enables her to commit the crime? no
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Does Carola constantly bring up the subject of cameras to the parents?

It seems we're really close - what's left to solve?
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Does Carola constantly bring up the subject of cameras to the parents? no

It seems we're really close - what's left to solve? Well, the case I have in mind is more complicated, but you've gotten close enough for me to declare a

*** SPOILER *************
Edwina, Carola's neighbor, doesn't generally use babysitters, but one day she was in a jam & asked Carola if she could watch the baby briefly. Little did Edwina suspect that Carola was a child molester! Evil but clever, Carola said, "Well, I've had so little experience with babies, I'm afraid I won't know what to do. So please explain everything very carefully & if you have a nannycam, please use it so you can tell me if I screwed up." "Oh, I don't have a nannycam," said the unsuspecting Edwina.
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Wow, Carola is certainly evil and clever, and this puzzle certainly fell under the latter!
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*shudder!*
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Well, look on the bright side; this is NOT a true story (so far as I know).
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I hope not!!!
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Same here!!!!

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