| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6286 Registered: 8-2001 |
If Nila's parents were not small-town conservatives who interacted almost exclusively with other conservatives, they would not have realized that Nila was a lesbian. Anti-gay stereotypes are not involved. How come? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10777 Registered: 4-2010 |
Nila - a child? A teenager? An adult? So her parents did realize she was a lesbian, correct? Is school relevant? Religious beliefs? Political beliefs? | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 961 Registered: 5-2009 |
Did Nila grow up with her parents? In a small town? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 761 Registered: 8-2010 |
Did they notice her interacting with lesbians? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 74 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did they realize Nila is lesbian entirely by themselves or was it suggested by someone else? They realized it because of something that happened? Or because of something that has been said? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6287 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10777 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 12:27 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Nila - a child? noA teenager? possibly An adult? possibly So her parents did realize she was a lesbian, correct? yes Is school relevant? no Religious beliefs? no Political beliefs? yope or noish Markobr (Markobr) New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 961 Registered: 5-2009 Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 12:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did Nila grow up with her parents? yesIn a small town? yes Whirligig (Whirligig) New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 761 Registered: 8-2010 Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 1:55 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did they notice her interacting with lesbians? no Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 74 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 1:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did they realize Nila is lesbian entirely by themselves or was it suggested by someone else? the former They realized it because of something that happened? yes Or because of something that has been said?yope | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 296 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does Nila still live with her parents? This something that happened - did it happen in their small town? Did it happen to Nila? Her parents? Occupation relevant? Laws? Elections? Political parties? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10810 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does Nila have a partner? If so, is her partner relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6290 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 296 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 7:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does Nila still live with her parents? no This something that happened - did it happen in their small town? noDid it happen to Nila? yesHer parents? yes Occupation relevant? Laws? Elections? Political parties? all irrel Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10810 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 7:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does Nila have a partner? irrelIf so, is her partner relevant? no | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 84 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did Nila move out from her parents before the incident? or after it? Did conservative views of Nila's parents change after incident? Which features of small towns are relevant to the puzzle: people know each other? narrower opportunities of education and work? special mentality? conservativeness? other? The incident happened: on holidays? on shopping excursion? while parents visited Nila at school in the other city? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2231 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is marriage relevant? The fact that in some conservative, small towns, girls tend to get married very young? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 611 Registered: 9-2010 |
Ooh, she sounds like Dick Cheney's daughter? Is she? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6293 Registered: 8-2001 |
Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 84 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did Nila move out from her parents before the incident? yesor after it? noDid conservative views of Nila's parents change after incident? irrel Which features of small towns are relevant to the puzzle: people know each other? no narrower opportunities of education and work? noish but you're ORTspecial mentality? yope conservativeness? yesother?{noish The incident happened: on holidays? possibly on shopping excursion? no while parents visited Nila at school in the other city? Yes. GOOOD question, except that Nila could be a working adult; she need not be a student Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2231 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 1:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is marriage relevant? noThe fact that in some conservative, small towns, girls tend to get married very young? no Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn) New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 611 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 2:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Ooh, she sounds like Dick Cheney's daughter? no Is she? She's a woman I used to know | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10917 Registered: 4-2010 |
The person who revealed Nila's homosexuality to the parents - someone Nila knew? Another lesbian? A friend of the parents? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2246 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did they see something at Nila's home that suggested her homosexuality to them? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6296 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10917 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 7:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) The person who revealed Nila's homosexuality to the parents - someone Nila knew? false assumption Another lesbian? no A friend of the parents? no Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2246 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 7:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did they see something at Nila's home that suggested her homosexuality to them? yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10959 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the "something" typically related to sexuality? Is it something uncommon to a typical small-town conservative home? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 109 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is Nila living alone? Or does she have a flatmate? Relevant? The "something" the parents saw was a belonging of Nila or of somebody else? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2250 Registered: 7-2009 |
When they saw the "something", did they know what it was? Or did they have to ask Nila to explain it to them? Or did they have to ask someone else to explain it to them? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6301 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10959 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Friday, January 14, 2011 - 12:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the "something" typically related to sexuality? noish or yope Is it something uncommon to a typical small-town conservative home? yes Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 109 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Friday, January 14, 2011 - 12:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is Nila living alone?irrel Or does she have a flatmate? Relevant? The "something" the parents saw was a belonging of Nila yesor of somebody else? no Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2250 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Friday, January 14, 2011 - 12:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) When they saw the "something", did they know what it was? yes Or did they have to ask Nila to explain it to them? noOr did they have to ask someone else to explain it to them? no | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2254 Registered: 7-2009 |
was the "something" a drawing? a graphic? a photograph? an object? written? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 122 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did Nila's parents have different conotations with the "something" because they were conservative, than if they were liberal? If Nila's parents were liberal, would they consider the "something" as normal? Would the liberal parents think their daughter is lesbian, if they knew she posessed the "something"? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6304 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2254 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Friday, January 14, 2011 - 10:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) was the "something" a drawing?\[possibly} a graphic? ditto a photograph? ditto an object? see other answers written? it definitely included writing Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 122 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Friday, January 14, 2011 - 10:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did Nila's parents have different conotations with the "something" because they were conservative, than if they were liberal? yesish or yope If Nila's parents were liberal, would they consider the "something" as normal? yes Would the liberal parents think their daughter is lesbian, if they knew she posessed the "something"? no | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2257 Registered: 7-2009 |
Are political parties relevant? Was the "something" a political brochure or other promotional item of the democratic party? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 134 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did "something" prove directly that Nila's a lesbian? Or it was rather an object connected by her parents with homosexualism, while the object itself didn't have such reference? Is the whole situation based on prejudices/stereotypes? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6307 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2257 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 2:05 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are political parties relevant? no Was the "something" a political brochure or other promotional item of the democratic party? no Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 134 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 6:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did "something" prove directly that Nila's a lesbian? no Or it was rather an object connected by her parents with homosexualism, while the object itself didn't have such reference? no Is the whole situation based on prejudices/stereotypes Prejudices, no; stereotypes, yesish | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 142 Registered: 1-2011 |
The object included writing - was it handwriting? or computer writing? Nila's parents realized that she's lesbian because of the object itself? or because of the writing? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6310 Registered: 8-2001 |
Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 142 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 9:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) The object included writing - was it handwriting? probably not or computer writing?please clarify Nila's parents realized that she's lesbian because of the object itself? or because of the writing? the writing was part of the object | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 362 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is it a book? A brochure? Something that Nila bought? That she got somewhere? Something that she made herself? Would the puzzle work with a gay son? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 158 Registered: 1-2011 |
Could the object be used the same way without writing (I mean for example a clothing with some writing on it is still a good clothing without a writing, but the book without writing is useless)? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6313 Registered: 8-2001 |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 362 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 4:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it a book?no A brochure? noSomething that Nila bought? yes That she got somewhere? yesSomething that she made herself? no Would the puzzle work with a gay son? yes Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 158 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 7:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Could the object be used the same way without writing (I mean for example a clothing with some writing on it is still a good clothing without a writing, but the book without writing is useless)? no or noish | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2268 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it a t-shirt? a magazine? a newspaper? a poster? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6315 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2268 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 9:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it a t-shirt? a magazine? a newspaper? a poster?a poster | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1169 Registered: 7-2001 |
was it a poster of a nude woman? was it a poster that advertised some event? a gay march? like gay pride? and the parents thought only gay people would go on a gay march? but more liberal people would know that many heterosexuals march as well in support of gay rights? is the issue of gay rights relevant here? did the poster relate in some way to gay rights? is the poster advertising a film? an art show? something that the parents consider only a gay person would be interested in? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 6317 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1169 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Monday, January 17, 2011 - 11:53 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) was it a poster of a nude woman? no was it a poster that advertised some event? yesa gay march? yeslike gay pride? yes and the parents thought only gay people would go on a gay march? yesbut more liberal people would know that many heterosexuals march as well in support of gay rights? yes is the issue of gay rights relevant here? yes did the poster relate in some way to gay rights? yes is the poster advertising a film? no an art show? no something that the parents consider only a gay person would be interested in? yes--see above ********* SPOILER ***************** Another triumph for clever Hannah!! Nola, who is a real person, is a politically active open lesbian who was in the closet only with respect to her conservative, small-town parents. Since they lived far away & this was before the Internet, she figured they would not find out. When they came to visit, she removed all the gay rights posters from her home--except one, which she overlooked. When the real Nola told me this was how her parents found out, I was bewildered. My parents would never think that having a gay rights poster meant that someone was gay! Please see my new puzzle! |
