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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4512 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 5:10 am: |      |
"Sharpen that potato, soldier!" |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 232 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 10:24 am: |      |
Potato - an edible plant? Or any other type of potato? Soldier - H? A? M? His/her nationality relevant? If so: German? Time and location relevant? Is it a wartime? Is the puzzle sentence spoken by a soldier's commander? Besides soldier and person speaking, any other people relevant? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3627 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 6:56 pm: |      |
Sharpen: make pointier? Make an edge sharper? Focus on, optically? Sharpen as in image processing? Is the potato tangible? Relevant what is used to sharpen the potato? Is it actually a potato, or is it only referred to as such? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 2754 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 9:45 pm: |      |
"Schärfen, dass Kartoffel, Soldat!" (Ist diese Übersetzung korrekt? Ich bin mit Google Translate. Darüber hinaus ist es relevant?) |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4517 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 1:39 am: |      |
Potato - an edible plant? Yes. Or any other type of potato? Soldier - H? A? M? Yes to all. His/her nationality relevant? Yes. If so: German? Yes. Time and location relevant? Yes. Is it a wartime? Yes. Is the puzzle sentence spoken by a soldier's commander? Yes. Besides soldier and person speaking, any other people relevant? Yes. Sharpen: make pointier? This. Make an edge sharper? Focus on, optically? Sharpen as in image processing? Is the potato tangible? Yes. Relevant what is used to sharpen the potato? No. Is it actually a potato, Yes. or is it only referred to as such? "Schärfen, dass Kartoffel, Soldat!" (Ist diese Übersetzung korrekt? Ich bin mit Google Translate. Darüber hinaus ist es relevant?) Ja, um beide. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 2770 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 1:52 am: |      |
Yes, to both? Vielen Dank, Jenburdoo. Pinguine sind überhaupt relevant? Haben sie wie Kartoffeln? Mögen Sie Kartoffeln? Haben deutsche Soldaten wie Kartoffeln? Ist es notwendig, die Kartoffeln zu geschärft werden? Als Waffen? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4521 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 2:08 am: |      |
Gah! I know no language other than English, I'm afraid... Penguins are at all relevant? No. Do they like potatoes? Don't they eat fish? Do you like potatoes? Yes, but irr. Did German soldiers like potatoes? Irr. Is it necessary for the potatoes to be sharpened? Yes. As weapons? No. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 2771 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 2:31 am: |      |
lol, me too...oh, and kitteh. But that was all Google Translate's work. :-D |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 2772 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 2:32 am: |      |
is this during wartime? WWI? WWII? something else? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4522 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 3:03 am: |      |
is this during wartime? WWI? This. WWII? something else? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11244 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 3:21 am: |      |
Are the potatoes sharpened to a point? An edge? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4523 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 3:22 am: |      |
Are the potatoes sharpened to a point? This. An edge? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11246 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 3:25 am: |      |
Are the potatoes only sharpened to one point? To two? More than two? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4526 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 5:18 am: |      |
Are the potatoes only sharpened to one point? Yes. To two? More than two? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3630 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 10:32 am: |      |
Will the sharpened potatoes be used for something relevant? Are they decoys? Otherwise part of a ruse? Could another vegetable have been used instead of a potato? If so, would it need to be potato-shaped? Could a carrot be used? Is the potato being made out to look like something else? Relevant how many potatoes the soldier will be sharpening? If so: 1? 2-5? 5-20? More than 20?Are there more soldiers than one sharpening potatoes? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 423 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 11:57 am: |      |
Location relevant? Germany? France? Front? Are the potatoes intended for eating? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4529 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 12:31 pm: |      |
Location relevant? Yes. Germany? France? This. Front? This. Are the potatoes intended for eating? No. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11257 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 3:46 pm: |      |
You missed Galfisk's questions... Are the potatoes going to be stuck in the ground? Stuck into something? Used as spikes? Used as ammunition? Used to plug something? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 428 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 5:03 pm: |      |
Used for medical purposes? Are they raw? Cooked? Fried? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4532 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 9:36 pm: |      |
Will the sharpened potatoes be used for something relevant? Yes. Are they decoys? No. Otherwise part of a ruse? Yes. Could another vegetable have been used instead of a potato? Possibly. If so, would it need to be potato-shaped? No. Could a carrot be used? Possibly. Is the potato being made out to look like something else? Yes. Relevant how many potatoes the soldier will be sharpening? Assume yes. If so: 1? Assume this. 2-5? 5-20? More than 20?Are there more soldiers than one sharpening potatoes? Yes. Are the potatoes going to be stuck in the ground? No. Stuck into something? Not quite. Used as spikes? Yes. Used as ammunition? No. Used to plug something? No. Used for medical purposes? No. Are they raw? I'd assume this. Cooked? Fried? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11269 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 9:51 pm: |      |
Are the potato spikes going to be used in a trap? A pit? A concealed pit? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4533 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 10:30 pm: |      |
Are the potato spikes going to be used in a trap? A pit? A concealed pit? None of these. (Tries to imagine a "potato trap") |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 2821 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 10:33 pm: |      |
*imagines someone building a giant fryer, putting oil in, burying it and someone falling into it, only to be covered by tons of potato spikes* ...Well, *that* was a cheerful image...) |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 1008 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 11:19 pm: |      |
Well, a better German translation would be "Schärf diese Kartoffel, Soldat" or "Schärfen Sie diese Kartoffel, Soldat". Is there a reason that the commander says "soldier" instead of either using the name and/or rank of the soldier ("Gefreiter Arsch" looks appropriate) or leaving it out entirely? Do they need only one sharpened potato? Two? Three? 4-10? 10-100? More? Do they want the enemy to see the sharpened potato(es)? And want them to think it's in fact something else? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4536 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 12:27 pm: |      |
Is there a reason that the commander says "soldier" instead of either using the name and/or rank of the soldier ("Gefreiter Arsch" looks appropriate) or leaving it out entirely? Not really. "Soldier" or "Trooper" is a typical English convention when addressing a generic soldier. Do they need only one sharpened potato? Two? Three? 4-10? 10-100? More? This. Do they want the enemy to see the sharpened potato(es)? No. And want them to think it's in fact something else? But... |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3634 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 6:36 pm: |      |
So more than 100 soldiers are sharpening a potato each, correct? Will they carry their own potatoes? Will the potatoes be put inside something relevant? Will they make it look like something else is inside? Will the enemy see the contour of the sharpened potato, but not the potato itself? Will the potato be carried into battle? Is the purpose of the ruse to: scare? Confuse? Intrigue? Mislead? Conceal? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 2299 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 7:19 pm: |      |
To what shape are the potatoes sharpened... are they conical? Or flat (like a knife)? Did they want the enemy to feel the potatoes? From behind? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4538 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 9:45 pm: |      |
So more than 100 soldiers are sharpening a potato each, correct? Yes. Will they carry their own potatoes? Yesish. Will the potatoes be put inside something relevant? Yesish. Will they make it look like something else is inside? Yes. Will the enemy see the contour of the sharpened potato, but not the potato itself? Yes, FA. Will the potato be carried into battle? No. Is the purpose of the ruse to: scare? Confuse? Intrigue? Mislead? This. Conceal? This. To what shape are the potatoes sharpened... are they conical? There are a few possibilities; for the purposes of this puzzle, assume yes. Or flat (like a knife)? No. Did they want the enemy to feel the potatoes? No. From behind? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3635 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 11:20 pm: |      |
Will something be put inside the potatoes? The thing the potatoes will yesishly be put inside, is it made from fabric? Is it clothing? A weapon? Is it sharpened in order to look like something else? Something dangerous? Something they want to give the impression that they have, when they have not? Or something they don't have, which they do? Will the potatoes be discarded after use? Eaten? something else? Relevant? Did the ruse work? Relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4544 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2011 - 11:26 pm: |      |
Will something be put inside the potatoes? No. The thing the potatoes will yesishly be put inside, is it made from fabric? Yes. Is it clothing? Yopish. A weapon? No. Is it sharpened in order to look like something else? Yes. Something dangerous? I suppose if you sat on it... Something they want to give the impression that they have, when they have not? This. Or something they don't have, which they do? Will the potatoes be discarded after use? Yes. Eaten? Possibly, but I doubt it. something else? Relevant? Did the ruse work? Yes. Relevant? Mildly. |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 1013 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 12:34 am: |      |
Is someone else than the enemy expected to see the potatoes? Civilists? Superiors? Neutral troops? The Red Cross? Is someone expected to percieve the potatoes by any other means than seeing them? If so: The enemy? Or (see list above)? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4545 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 12:44 am: |      |
Is someone else than the enemy expected to see the potatoes? Yes. Civilists? Civilians, you mean? Yes, though I'm not sure of the precise status. Superiors? Yes. Neutral troops? The Red Cross? Neither. Is someone expected to percieve the potatoes by any other means than seeing them? No, but... If so: The enemy? Or (see list above)? Civilian superiors. |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 1014 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 12:54 am: |      |
This puzzle somehow makes me mix some German into what I write... "Zivilist" is the German word for "Civilian" which I meant. Civilian superiors. Some government officials? Ministers? Parlamentarians? Royalty involved? They should have something, which they don't? And they don't want the superiors to find out about? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4546 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 3:20 am: |      |
Civilian superiors. Some government officials? Yes. Ministers? Parlamentarians? Royalty involved? But particularly this. They should have something, which they don't? No, but... And they don't want the superiors to find out about? Correct. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11319 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 6:41 pm: |      |
Do they not have something which they should? Are they shaping the potatoes into that "something"? |
Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner
Post Number: 668 Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2011 - 8:48 pm: |      |
Were the potatoes to represent helmet spikes? Relevant that the German forces generally did not wear helmet spikes in WWI (at least not at the front)? Did they want to look like as if they were still wearing them? in order to please His Majesty? (but he should have known ..) |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 4548 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2011 - 12:55 am: |      |
Were the potatoes to represent helmet spikes? Relevant that the German forces generally did not wear helmet spikes in WWI (at least not at the front)? Did they want to look like as if they were still wearing them? in order to please His Majesty? Got it. (but he should have known ..) I don't know why he didn't. **** Spoiler **** Kaiser Wilhelm visited the front lines in 1916. German soldiers had abandoned the helmet spike about a year before, but sharpened potatoes and put them under their helmet covers to give the impression the spikes were still there. |