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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2011 - 10:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He emigrated for one pound of ice cream

Let's see what comes out of this
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"He" - H? A? M? Relevant where he emigrated from? Immigrated to?
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"He" - H? A? M? Relevant where he emigrated from? Immigrated to?

Yes to all
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Was it a voluntary emigration? or was he deported?

one pound as in weight? or currency?
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Was it a voluntary emigration? This and... or was he deported?

one pound as in weight? ... this or currency?
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Is the flavour of the ice cream relevant? the make?

Is it relevant when this happened?

Was he suddenly no longer able to get his 'favourite' ice cream where he lived and had to move country to be able to buy it again?

Is it relevant that it was one pount? Could it have been two? One kilo?
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Is the flavour of the ice cream relevant? Yope the make? Yope

Is it relevant when this happened? Yes

Was he suddenly no longer able to get his 'favourite' ice cream where he lived and had to move country to be able to buy it again? No, but OTRT

Is it relevant that it was one pount? No Could it have been two? One kilo? Yes to both
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Did he truly emigrate, as in change his permanent location of residence? or did he just make a short trip, for example to the other side of a river, that happened to bring him into another country?
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True story? FYOI? FSEI?

LTPF lists of relevant centuries and decades, please.
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Was the ice cream flavor already available when he immigrated? Was he the creator of the flavor? Did he immigrate because of some ingredient? Or to get a patent for the flavor (can you get patents for ice cream flavors...?)? Or to sell the ice cream?

Or did he immigrate in order to eat the ice cream? Was it a flavor that didn't exist in the country where he came from? Was it a country one in which ice cream in general didn't exist?
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Did he produce ice cream for living? Did he sell ice cream for living?
Did he set up an ice cream business in the place where he immigrated to? If so: would the business be equally successful in the place where he emigrated from?
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Did he truly emigrate, as in change his permanent location of residence? Yes or did he just make a short trip, for example to the other side of a river, that happened to bring him into another country? So, no

True story? Reported as such, but I read it in a book FYOI? FSEI?

LTPF lists of relevant centuries and decades, please. Let's assume UK and for sure US in the seemingly true story. 20th century, the forties-fifties

Was the ice cream flavor already available when he immigrated? Yes Was he the creator of the flavor? No Did he immigrate because of some ingredient? No Or to get a patent for the flavor (can you get patents for ice cream flavors...? Probably yes, but irrelevant)? No, the relation to the flavor is not important and too lateral Or to sell the ice cream? No

Or did he immigrate in order to eat the ice cream? Noish Was it a flavor that didn't exist in the country where he came from? No Was it a country one in which ice cream in general didn't exist? This is OTRT, but look out for FAs. No to the rest

Did he produce ice cream for living? Did he sell ice cream for living?
Did he set up an ice cream business in the place where he immigrated to? If so: would the business be equally successful in the place where he emigrated from?
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Is the specific flavor important? Is it considered an odd flavor in either country?
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Is the specific flavor important? Is it considered an odd flavor in either country? No, the flavor is not important. You can assume any ice cream flavor you want
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Was there only one flavor? More than one?
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Was there only one flavor? More than one? This one
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Did he want to learn how to make ice cream? Did he want to introduce ice cream to his home country? Is a certain brand or type ofice cream relevant?
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Did he want to learn how to make ice cream? Did he want to introduce ice cream to his home country? Is a certain brand or type ofice cream relevant?

No to all
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Did the ice cream end up taking a voyage?
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Did the ice cream end up taking a voyage? No
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Did he plan on eating the ice cream? Did he eat it? Was eating the ice cream the main purpose of his emigration?
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Did he plan on eating the ice cream? Possibly Did he eat it? Possibly and irrelevant Was eating the ice cream the main purpose of his emigration? No, or at least not directly. There's a more lateral connection
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Did he truly immigrate because of the ice cream? Or was it an alibi reason that he stated somewhere? Is "ice cream" a code word for something else? Was there some sort of misunderstanding or language problem and he accidently stated that he immigrated because of ice cream although he meant something different? Or the person he talked(?) to understood "ice cream" although he said something else?
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Did he truly immigrate because of the ice cream? Yope Or was it an alibi reason that he stated somewhere? Please rephrase Is "ice cream" a code word for something else? No Was there some sort of misunderstanding or language problem and he accidently stated that he immigrated because of ice cream although he meant something different? He didn't emigrate strictly because of the ice cream. Some more ground work is needed. Or the person he talked(?) to understood "ice cream" although he said something else? Nothing of the sort
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Or was it an alibi reason that he stated somewhere? Please rephrase

Did he have to state the reason of his immigration at some point and he stated "ice cream" to hide his "real" reason?
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Did he have to state the reason of his immigration at some point and he stated "ice cream" to hide his "real" reason? No
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Is the relevant cause related to the production of ice cream? Flavouring of it? Do we have to determine the producer?
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Is the relevant cause related to the production of ice cream? Flavouring of it? Do we have to determine the producer? No to all
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Is a lawsuit relevant?
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Is a lawsuit relevant? no
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Did anyone eat the ice cream? Was the ice cream melted? Freeze-dried?
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ooh, I love freeze-dried ice cream...*has sudden longing to go to Tech Museum and buy some from the gift shop*
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Did anyone eat the ice cream? Yes, I think Was the ice cream melted? I have no idea Freeze-dried? Irrel. I last ate icecream 25 years ago :-) and I won't do that for what's left of my life
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Was the ice cream something that was, for some reason, given to all immigrants? If so, did he choose the country to immigrate to because of that?

Did he want to know what the ice cream would taste like? Did he had a really bad craving for ice cream? Was he just hungry?
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Was the ice cream something that was, for some reason, given to all immigrants? No and FA If so, did he choose the country to immigrate to because of that?

Did he want to know what the ice cream would taste like? Did he had a really bad craving for ice cream? Was he just hungry? No to all
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Did he, at any point, possess the ice cream? If so, before emigrating? During the process? Afterwards?

Is there a story behind your not eating ice cream? I'm curious...
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Did he, at any point, possess the ice cream? Possibly If so, before emigrating? This. The rest are possible but irrelevant During the process? Afterwards?

Is there a story behind your not eating ice cream? I'm curious... It's not only ice cream, I don't like the sweet taste so I don't eat candies, fruits, chocolate, ice cream and the like
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Did the man have the relevant pound of ice cream in the country he emigrated from? the country he immigrated to?
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Did the man have the relevant pound of ice cream in the country he emigrated from? Possibly the country he immigrated to? Possibly

You need to establish some other facts
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Are any other people relevant? If so, H? A? M? More than one?
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Are any other people relevant? Yes If so, H? A? M? All Yes More than one? One is directly relevant, but more are involved
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About the one directly relevant, is his profession relevant? Is his race? Is his religion? Was that man and our hero related? Did they knew each other?
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About the one directly relevant, is his profession relevant? Yes Is his race? Is his religion? Was that man and our hero related? Did they knew each other? They have just met. No to the rest
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Are both men of the same nationality? Is that relevant?

For the profession, can we have a LTPF list of professional fields, please?
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Are both men of the same nationality? No Is that relevant? Yes

For the profession, can we have a LTPF list of professional fields, please? He worked in the military
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Did the story begin during wartime?
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Did the story begin during wartime? Yes
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Was the second man a member of enemy forces?
By the way, can those men have names?
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Was the second man a member of enemy forces? No
By the way, can those men have names? Of course. Our hero - Bob -- and the other directly relevant guy Tim, ok?
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Perfect names.
Was Tim a member of war forces at all? Was Tim a member of another (other than Bob's) country, allied with Bob's country, military forces?
Was Bob British?
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Was Tim a member of war forces at all? Very much so Was Tim a member of another (other than Bob's) country, allied with Bob's country, military forces? Yes
Was Bob British? I guess so, but unsure. Irrel to the puzzle. Let's assume Bob was British and we know for sure Tim was allied forces, more specifically US military. His rank is largely irrelevant, but assume a lieutenant or captain
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Did Tim help Bob emigrate?

Is it relevant where the ice cream came from in the first place? Was it part of military rations?
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Have Tim and Bob met only that time, once? Or have they met also later on? Did they do something together?
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Did Tim help Bob emigrate? No

Is it relevant where the ice cream came from in the first place? Yes Was it part of military rations? Big YES! Well done

Have Tim and Bob met only that time, once? Or have they met also later on? Did they do something together? All are unknown and irrelevant
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Did Tim give Bob any ice cream? All of it? Some of it? Was the ice cream taken from his military rations? Other rations?
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Did Tim give Bob any ice cream? Yes All of it? No Some of it? Yes Was the ice cream taken from his military rations? Yes, but see below Other rations? No, but see below

To be sure I am not misleading here: By "part of military rations" I understand "part of the supply of the military", not individual rations. I don't know if the two are equivalent
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Was Tim allowed to give Bob the ice cream? Was he authorized to do so?
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Was Tim allowed to give Bob the ice cream? Was he authorized to do so? Yes to both, but irrelevant
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Did Bob enjoy the ice cream he was given? Relevant?
Was there any particular reason for Tim to give Bob the ice cream? Was Bob a victim of the war (I mean more than being a citizen of a country in war)?
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Did Bob enjoy the ice cream he was given? Relevant? No

Was there any particular reason for Tim to give Bob the ice cream? Yesish, might mislead Was Bob a victim of the war (I mean more than being a citizen of a country in war)? No

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Tim (an American sergeant) meets Bob and other British guys during a war and gives them ice cream from the American military supplies. As a lateral result of this fact Bob decides to leave his country and does so after the war is over. The flavor and other characteristics of ice cream are all irrelevant. What happened after the encounter or before that is also irrelevant. Only the meeting and its context is relevant
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Was the meeting during battle? Was Bob part of the military? Was he wounded?

Did Tim treat him better than some of the British? So Bob decided to live "with the nicer people"?
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If Tim had done Bob the "military" chocolate, would the result have been the same? Same question for a can of meat?
Did the meeting happen in UK? In a private place? Public place? Relevant?
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Was the meeting during battle? Unknown. It during battle operations, however Was Bob part of the military? Yes! Was he wounded? No

Did Tim treat him better than some of the British? Yope but may be grossly misleading So Bob decided to live "with the nicer people"? The same Yope with the same warning. Both somehow OTRT, however

If Tim had done Bob the "military" chocolate, would the result have been the same? I don't know, probably not given the yet unestablished set of circumstances Same question for a can of meat? Same answer
Did the meeting happen in UK? No In a private place? No Public place? DOYD of public place.. I would say that "open space" is a more appropriate name, but it was public all right Relevant? Very much so!
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BLOOPER

I said that the characteristics of ice cream are all irrelevant. That is a blooper: some characteristics of ice cream are marginally relevant in the context (but not its flavor or the others already mentioned)
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So Bob is British military and Tim is US military, correct?

Did the British military rations not include ice cream?
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So Bob is British military and Tim is US military, correct? Yes

Did the British military rations not include ice cream? Yes, but there's more to it
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Is the reason why Tim gave Bob the ice cream relevant? Was he saving him from starvation? Did Tim get into trouble for giving ice cream to Bob?

When did Bob immigrate in relation to getting the ice cream? On the same day? One day later? During the following couple of days? At some later/irrelevant time during the war? After the war?

Did Bob immigrate to the US out of gratefulness? Or guilt? Did he do it to meet Tim again? Or didn't he want to have anything to do with Great Britain anymore?

Or, a wild guess, was Tim killed / held captive while he was giving Bob the ice cream or because of it? And Bob, who looked similar to Tim, took Tim's place afterwards?

Yeah, I might've watched the Simpsons a bit too much... xD
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The Simpsons? I don't watch it...so I don't understand the reference...
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Is the reason why Tim gave Bob the ice cream relevant? Yesish, no to the rest Was he saving him from starvation? Did Tim get into trouble for giving ice cream to Bob?


When did Bob immigrate in relation to getting the ice cream? On the same day? One day later? During the following couple of days? At some later/irrelevant time during the war? After the war? This one

Did Bob immigrate to the US out of gratefulness? Or guilt? Did he do it to meet Tim again? Or didn't he want to have anything to do with Great Britain anymore? No to all. While you know Tim, you don't know Bob so well

Or, a wild guess, was Tim killed / held captive while he was giving Bob the ice cream or because of it? And Bob, who looked similar to Tim, took Tim's place afterwards? No murders or captivities involved. Just the meeting of Tim and Bob (and some others), both in the military, in a public open space, during war operations...
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Was it a specific, one-time event during wartime? Or just a coincidential meeting of random soldiers?
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Was it a specific, one-time event during wartime? Or just a coincidential meeting of random soldiers? One specific meeting is the subject matter of this puzzle. Whether they met in the past or no is irrelevant. However, our meeting is different -- consider where they met, what was the lateral relevance of ice cream and something more about Bob
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Is Bob's rank relevant? Is Tim's?
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Is Bob's rank relevant? Is Tim's? No to both
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Did they meet on the battlefield? At a camp? At a hospital?
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I will rephrase my earlier question, as it seems I made it unclear
Did they meet during an organised event (as for example meeting for allied soldiers organised for an army)? Did someone plan their meeting beforehand? Or was their meeting a coincidence?
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Did they meet on the battlefield? Unsure, probably going to a battlefield or returning from it At a camp? At a hospital?

I will rephrase my earlier question, as it seems I made it unclear
Did they meet during an organised event (as for example meeting for allied soldiers organised for an army)? No Did someone plan their meeting beforehand? Unknown and irrelevant Or was their meeting a coincidence? Unknown and irrelevant
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Did Bob take the ice cream to his camp?
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Did Bob and Tim meet in Britain? In USA? France? Somewhere else?

Did Bob and Tim meet on land? on the sea?
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Did Bob take the ice cream to his camp? No

Did Bob and Tim meet in Britain? In USA? France? Somewhere else? This, no to the rest

Did Bob and Tim meet on land? Yes on the sea? {So, no}
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Did they meet somewhere in Europe?

This is WWII, right? Is a particular battle relevant? A well-known one? D-Day?
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Did they meet somewhere in Europe? No

This is WWII, right? Yes, no to the rest Is a particular battle relevant? A well-known one? D-Day?
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Did they meet in Asia? In Japan? At a military base?
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Were they captured when they met?

Could Bob easily have returned to the UK after war, if he had wanted to?
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Did they meet in Asia? In Japan? At a military base?

Were they captured when they met?

Could Bob easily have returned to the UK after war, if he had wanted to? Yes, no the rest
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Ok, so did they meet in Latin America? North America? South America? Arctic? Antarctic? Africa? Caribbean?

Were the ice-cream in military supplies just for calories and to vary a diet? Or did they serve also another purpose? (for example to get something cold?)

Did Tim save Bob's life? Did Bob save Tim's life? Was anybody in danger at any time within the timeframes of this puzzle?
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Ok, so did they meet in Latin America? North America? South America? Arctic? Antarctic? Africa? This one Caribbean?

Were the ice-cream in military supplies just for calories and to vary a diet? Probably no Or did they serve also another purpose? Probably yes... (for example to get something cold? ... and this is important)

Did Tim save Bob's life? Did Bob save Tim's life? Was anybody in danger at any time within the timeframes of this puzzle? No to all
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So, is it correct to assume that it was hot in Africa and Tim gave Bob ice cream to get something cold? Is there more about the meeting what should be revealed?
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So, is it correct to assume that it was hot in Africa and Tim gave Bob ice cream to get something cold? Yesish Is there more about the meeting what should be revealed? Only how Tim managed to obtain the ice-cream on such a hot day in an open space -- it was in the middle of the desert, by the way -- and how this connects with Bob decision to emigrate. Almost there
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Only to clarify, were the ice-cream part of US military supplies? Or enemy military supplies?
Did it happen at night?
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Only to clarify, were the ice-cream part of US military supplies? Yes Or enemy military supplies? So, no

Did it happen at night? No
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Had Tim taken the ice cream into the desert? Did he get it while in the desert?
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Had Tim taken the ice cream into the desert? No Did he get it while in the desert? Yes
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Did Tim get the ice cream from a vehicle? If so: a car? a plane?
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was Bob so impressed by the method of refrigeration that he decided to move to the US to work in that industry?

was is north Africa? in the desert? on the coast? did the ice cream come straight off a ship? from a truck?
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Did Tim get the ice cream from a vehicle? If so: a car? a plane? Yes!

was Bob so impressed by the method of refrigeration No that he decided to move to the US Yes to work in that industry? No

was is north Africa? in the desert? Yes to both, no to the rest on the coast? did the ice cream come straight off a ship? from a truck?



******* SPOILER *******

Mircea Eliade records in one of his notes, under January 18th, 1977, Chicago, the following story presumably told by Univ. of Chicago Professor Norman Perrin, who had died a few months earlier (our Bob):

Bob and a few fellow soldiers from British forces were walking through the desert, exhausted. At some point they meet an American patrol, and the sergeant in command (our Tim), after greeting them, asked them if they wish some ice cream, to feel better. They were half nervous, half amused, but they decided to play along. So the sergeant asked what their preferences were and he noted on a piece of paper the order -- chocolate, strawberry, etc. At last, he asked: one pound for each is enough? Yeah, they answered, barely hiding their laughter. The sergeant took his walkie-talkie, ordered, and in less than half an hour a plane circled around and dropped a box with the order. At this point Bob made a commitment to himself: If I will ever get alive, I will go to the US: with such a wealth and organization, they no doubt must have the best universities in the world. He died in 1976 as a professor at Chicago University.

Thanks to all for playing, especially Redwine and Balin for their heavy work!

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