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Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 6:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It is the day after I attended a birthday party at a friend's house. I am trying to find the allowable exposure limit for a toxic gas. Why?
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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 6:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did someone at the party intentionally inhale a toxic gas? Unintentionally?
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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 7:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did someone at the party intentionally inhale a toxic gas? Yope. Unintentionally? No.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are fireworks relevant? Other explosives?

Was a toxic gas inhaled? Knowingly? Intentionally? Inhaling helium from balloons relevant?
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Are fireworks relevant? Other explosives? No to both.

Was a toxic gas inhaled? Sort of, DYOD of toxic. Knowingly? Yes. Intentionally? Yes. Inhaling helium from balloons relevant? No.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 8:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant things:
The specific gas?
The fact that you were at a party?
The fact that you were at a birthday party?
The fact that you were at a friend's house?
The fact that you were at this specific party?
The fact that you were at this specific house?
Person for whom party was given?
Other people attending the party?
Food at the party? or drinks?
Games played at the party?
Something said at the party?
Decorations at the party?
Gifts for the person celebrating a birthday?
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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant things:
The specific gas? Yesish - a few other gasses could also work.
The fact that you were at a party? Yes.
The fact that you were at a birthday party? No.
The fact that you were at a friend's house? Yes.
The fact that you were at this specific party? No.
The fact that you were at this specific house? No.
Person for whom party was given? No.
Other people attending the party? Yesish.
Food at the party? or drinks? No to both.
Games played at the party? No.
Something said at the party? No.
Decorations at the party? No.
Gifts for the person celebrating a birthday? No.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 8:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were people at the party inhaling nitrous oxide? from balloons?
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Did the person/the people who inhaled the gas know that this may be toxic/unhealthy? Did they know what gas it was? Did they know the chemical features of the gas?
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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were people at the party inhaling nitrous oxide? from balloons? No.

Did the person/the people who inhaled the gas know that this may be toxic/unhealthy? Did they know what gas it was? Yes to both. Did they know the chemical features of the gas? Irr.
There's an FA about "the gas".
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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 9:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the toxic gas you're exploring (trying to find the allowable exposure) the same gas that someone inhaled at the party?
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Is the toxic gas you're exploring (trying to find the allowable exposure) the same gas that someone inhaled at the party? No. FA cleared.
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Was the gas that someone inhaled at the party toxic? Unhealthy? If not, could it become toxic/unhealthy when mixed with other available substance? With alcohol?
Could anyone inhale this gas at any birthday party?
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Was the gas that someone inhaled at the party toxic? Unhealthy? This. If not, could it become toxic/unhealthy when mixed with other available substance? With alcohol? Irr.
Could anyone inhale this gas at any birthday party? No.
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Are the inhaled one and the toxic one similar in composition? Do they have similar characteristics? Was one mistaken for the other?
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Are the inhaled one and the toxic one similar in composition? Do they have similar characteristics? Was one mistaken for the other? No to all.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 9:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the inhaled gas something (or a part of something) commonly used at birthday parties? Is the inhaled gas something (or a part of something) commonly used in household? Was the inhaled gas deliberately available at the party? Is there a bet involved?
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Is the inhaled gas something (or a part of something) commonly used at birthday parties? No. Is the inhaled gas something (or a part of something) commonly used in household? No. Was the inhaled gas deliberately available at the party? Yes. Is there a bet involved? No.
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Was it a host who "brought" the gas to a party? Was the gas there on purpose not conneced with someone inhaling it? Was the inhaling person aware of possible consequences to health? Was it an experiment?
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Was it a host who "brought" the gas to a party? No. Was the gas there on purpose not conneced with someone inhaling it? You mean if the gas was for some other purpose than inhalation? No. Was the inhaling person aware of possible consequences to health? Yes. Was it an experiment? No.
Hint: "gas" is not the best word here.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 12:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hmmm, if "gas" is not the best word...

gas = smoke? vapor? form of steam? mist?

Smoke machines relevant? How about inhalers (like for people with asthma)? hookah?
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Do the inhaled substance and the toxic gas you're exploring have something in common? If so: origin? chemical characteristic?
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hmmm, if "gas" is not the best word...

gas = smoke? This. vapor? form of steam? mist?

Smoke machines relevant? How about inhalers (like for people with asthma)? hookah? No to all.

Do the inhaled substance and the toxic gas you're exploring have something in common? No. If so: origin? chemical characteristic?
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Was something being smoked? Burned? Wood?

Was someone smoking?
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Do you make your exploration on purpose (as opposed to mere curiosity)?
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Was something being smoked? Burned? Wood?
Was someone smoking? This.

Do you make your exploration on purpose (as opposed to mere curiosity)? Yes.
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Is the toxic gas you're exploring an ingredient of cigarette smoke? A product of mixing cigarette smoke with other substance?

Does allowable exposure limit you're trying to find concern humans?
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Is the toxic gas you're exploring an ingredient of cigarette smoke? A product of mixing cigarette smoke with other substance? No to all.

Does allowable exposure limit you're trying to find concern humans? Yes.
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Is it relevant what the smoker was smoking? Cigarettes? Cigars? A pipe? Marijuana? Something else?
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Is it relevant what the smoker FA was smoking? Yesish. Cigarettes? This, no to the rest. Cigars? A pipe? Marijuana? Something else?
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Was only one person smoking? More than one?
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Was only one person smoking? More than one? This.
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Is he toxic gas you're exploring commonly available in household? Would it help to trace the exact substance? Is it, by chance, carbon oxide (CO)?
Is your research purely theoretical? Do you do any experiments?
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Is he toxic gas you're exploring commonly available in household? No. Would it help to trace the exact substance? Yes. Is it, by chance, carbon oxide (CO)? No.
Is your research purely theoretical? No. Do you do any experiments? Yes.
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Is the toxic gas you're exploring organic? Non-organic? Available in nature? Artificial (man-made)?
Is the toxic gas you're exploring a product of burning?
For the sake of your experiments, did you obtain the gas by yourself? Produced it from chemical substances in the chemical reaction?

If the people at the party had smoked marijuana, would you still do the research? Same question if they had smoked pipe?
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Is the toxic gas you're exploring organic? Non-organic? This. Available in nature? Artificial (man-made)? This.
Is the toxic gas you're exploring a product of burning? No.
For the sake of your experiments, did you obtain the gas by yourself? Produced it from chemical substances in the chemical reaction? This.

If the people at the party had smoked marijuana, would you still do the research? Assume yes. Same question if they had smoked pipe? Assume yes.
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Did you produce the gas from commonly available material? With commonly available equipment? Or did you do it in laboratory?

Could I produce this at home from the ordinary everyday stuff?
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Did you produce the gas from commonly available material? Yes. With commonly available equipment? Yes. Or did you do it in laboratory? No.

Could I produce this at home from the ordinary everyday stuff? Yes.
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Could you have bought the gas, if you wanted? Is the only way to get the gas - to produce it?

Do you perform your experiments on yourself? On other people? On other living organisms?
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Could you have bought the gas, if you wanted? No. Is the only way to get the gas - to produce it? No, but easier.

Do you perform your experiments on yourself? On other people? On other living organisms? No to all.
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Is the gas a compound? An element?

Can the gas be fatal?
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Is the gas a compound? An element? this.

Can the gas be fatal? Yes.
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Is the gas helium? hydrogen?
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Is the gas helium? hydrogen? No. they are not toxic.
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Is the gas chlorine? Fluorine? Some element which isn't a gas under normal conditions? As "smoke" is a better word: Is "respirable dust" also a better word?
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Is the gas chlorine? This. Fluorine? Some element which isn't a gas under normal conditions? As "smoke" is a better word: Is "respirable dust" also a better word? "Gas" was not the best word for the cigarette smoke. But it's a good word for chlorine gas.
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Did someone mix cleaning fluids to create the gas?
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Did someone mix cleaning fluids to create the gas? Yes, I did (bleach and hydrochloric acid).
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Had those fluids been combined at the party? Or was there another source of the chlorine gas?

Do you need the chlorine gas to fix something?
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Had those fluids been combined at the party? No. Or was there another source of the chlorine gas? Other than the fluids I mixed? No.

Do you need the chlorine gas to fix something? Yes.
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Is any other form of chlorine relevant? Chlorine in a pool?
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Relevant that the chlorine substances can be used to disinfection?
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Is any other form of chlorine relevant? Chlorine in a pool? No.

Relevant that the chlorine substances can be used to disinfection? No, but OTRT.
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At the party, was there any chlorine substance present? Did it mix with something else? Which caused the chlorine gas to extract?
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At the party, was there any chlorine substance present? Did it mix with something else? Which caused the chlorine gas to extract? No to all. Everything chlorine-related happened the day after the party.
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Is there something specific to the friend's house, which should be explored? Did the purpose of your research arise at the party?
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Is there something specific to the friend's house, which should be explored? Noish. Did the purpose of your research arise at the party? Yes.
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Was the allowable exposure on gases a topic of conversation at the party?
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Was the allowable exposure on gases a topic of conversation at the party? No.
Remember, cigarette smoking is relevant.
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Did you want to bleach something that got dirty from cigarette smoke?
And first you looked up the allowable exposure for chlorine in order not to kill yourself during the process?
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Did cigarette smoking provoke a conversation upon unhealthy things? And someone said that bleaching stains or going to pool can be as dangerous? And you decided to check this?
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 3:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you want to bleach No. something that got dirty from cigarette smoke? But yes.
And first you looked up the allowable exposure for chlorine in order not to kill yourself during the process? Indeed!

Did cigarette smoking provoke a conversation upon unhealthy things? No. And someone said that bleaching stains or going to pool can be as dangerous? No. And you decided to check this? But if someone had said so, I would have researched it.
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 11931
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 7:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you using the chlorine gas to get the smoke smell out?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 3711
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Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 12:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you using the chlorine gas to get the smoke smell out?
***SPOILER***
People were smoking inside at the party, so when I got home all my clothes smelled of smoke. I would go on washing most of them, but my thick winter jacket takes days to dry, and I use it every day.
I've tried acetic acid fumes to get the smell out one time (the bottle said it would work great), but that just resulted in the jacket smelling sour for days.
Chlorine gas breaks down most stuff, including the foul-smelling molecules from the smoke, so I looked up the allowable limit, calculated the amount of ingredients, hung the jacket in a closet, put the mixture in (sub-milliliter quantities to bring 2 cubic meters to the limit) and closed the door.
The next day my jacket smelled of chlorine and a bit of smoke. I think if I use a little more gas, it'll clean my jacket overnight.
I may also try ozone some time.
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 11945
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Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 2:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I had no idea chlorine gas could work so well as an antiodorizer - nice puzzle!

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